WEBVTT 00:00:09.152 --> 00:00:16.944 (bell) 00:00:27.236 --> 00:00:29.020 Dear Thay, Dear Sangha 00:00:35.400 --> 00:00:38.704 [SPANISH] At times I control a lot of anger coming up. 00:00:38.704 --> 00:00:43.469 I keep it inside, but then it suddenly explodes. 00:00:43.475 --> 00:00:45.048 I let it all out at once, 00:00:45.173 --> 00:00:49.307 without knowing why and without being able to control it. 00:00:49.557 --> 00:00:56.660 When my anger explodes I hurt the other person a lot. 00:00:59.639 --> 00:01:03.500 And then I do not have compassion for the other person. 00:01:06.697 --> 00:01:13.407 After I have calmed down and I have let all my anger out, 00:01:13.470 --> 00:01:17.070 then I have compassion and I am aware that I made him suffer. 00:01:17.098 --> 00:01:19.802 But in the moment itself, I cannot do anything. 00:01:20.479 --> 00:01:22.129 How can I do this? 00:01:24.783 --> 00:01:26.603 Dear Thay, our friend is saying that... 00:01:26.603 --> 00:01:30.099 This is another question about anger. 00:01:30.099 --> 00:01:33.595 She feels a lot of anger come up sometimes. 00:01:34.081 --> 00:01:36.760 and she doesn't want to let it come out. 00:01:36.760 --> 00:01:41.176 So she tries to keep it under control, she's pushing it down. 00:01:41.176 --> 00:01:44.498 But then, at some point it explodes, it comes out. 00:01:44.498 --> 00:01:48.489 and she can hurt the other person. 00:01:48.489 --> 00:01:50.882 She feels sorry to hurt the other person. 00:01:50.882 --> 00:01:54.739 She feels compassion for the suffering she caused him. 00:01:54.959 --> 00:02:00.227 And she wants to know how she can take better care of the situation. 00:02:02.669 --> 00:02:07.080 Is she capable of seeing the suffering of the other person? 00:02:09.592 --> 00:02:15.245 [FRENCH] Can she see the suffering in the other person? 00:02:15.681 --> 00:02:20.760 And when? Before or after the explosion? 00:02:39.822 --> 00:02:42.685 I do see their suffering 00:02:42.685 --> 00:02:46.817 but I still have the strong emotion come up. 00:02:46.817 --> 00:02:48.830 What can I do? 00:02:56.037 --> 00:02:57.987 To control is not enough. 00:02:59.240 --> 00:03:02.749 To control may be to suppress. 00:03:03.561 --> 00:03:05.505 Suppressing is not good, 00:03:06.256 --> 00:03:10.200 because it is always there, you pin it down 00:03:10.200 --> 00:03:12.161 but it is still there. 00:03:12.677 --> 00:03:16.922 So suppressing is not good. 00:03:16.922 --> 00:03:20.193 We have to transform. 00:03:23.212 --> 00:03:28.516 And to transform you need compassion. 00:03:30.320 --> 00:03:35.171 The only antidote for anger, violence is compassion. 00:03:37.424 --> 00:03:39.406 There is no other way. 00:03:40.368 --> 00:03:44.486 But how to fabricate compassion? 00:03:44.486 --> 00:03:46.600 How to generate the energy of compassion? 00:03:46.600 --> 00:03:49.264 That is the real question. 00:03:49.264 --> 00:03:53.640 And in this retreat we have learnt 00:03:54.379 --> 00:03:56.960 to recognize the suffering. 00:03:59.050 --> 00:04:01.861 Because the suffering in that person is 00:04:01.868 --> 00:04:07.000 the cause of his action or of words that can make you suffer. 00:04:10.560 --> 00:04:14.922 The anger in him waters the anger in you. 00:04:16.845 --> 00:04:22.440 The violence in him waters the violence in you. 00:04:25.540 --> 00:04:32.120 And that is why...we have to breathe in and out mindfully 00:04:32.121 --> 00:04:40.291 and to look, to see that the other person is a victim 00:04:40.317 --> 00:04:46.288 of his own violence, his own suffering, his own misunderstanding. 00:04:46.288 --> 00:04:48.310 This is very important. 00:04:49.768 --> 00:04:52.676 This is the teaching of the Buddha: 00:04:52.676 --> 00:04:54.732 look at suffering 00:04:54.732 --> 00:04:58.119 and understand suffering. 00:04:58.119 --> 00:05:01.200 When you understand your own suffering 00:05:01.200 --> 00:05:06.158 you can understand the suffering of the other person. 00:05:06.158 --> 00:05:09.436 Understanding suffering always brings compassion. 00:05:09.436 --> 00:05:17.192 And only compassion can transform anger and violence. 00:05:19.009 --> 00:05:23.581 There are those of us who think we can 00:05:25.351 --> 00:05:28.958 take the block of anger out of us 00:05:30.243 --> 00:05:34.078 like doing surgery. 00:05:37.929 --> 00:05:40.264 But you cannot do that with anger. 00:05:40.264 --> 00:05:45.392 You cannot take anger out of you. 00:05:45.392 --> 00:05:48.157 You can only transform it. 00:05:48.157 --> 00:05:52.239 Anger can be transformed into something else. 00:05:52.239 --> 00:05:55.889 Anger can be transformed into understanding and compassion 00:05:56.530 --> 00:06:02.000 And that is the work of the practitioner: 00:06:02.000 --> 00:06:04.120 looking into the suffering, 00:06:04.120 --> 00:06:07.437 your own suffering and the suffering of the other. 00:06:07.437 --> 00:06:11.890 And try to understand the cause. 00:06:11.890 --> 00:06:16.498 That is the way to generate 00:06:16.498 --> 00:06:19.395 the energy of compassion. 00:06:19.395 --> 00:06:21.840 And when compassion is there 00:06:21.840 --> 00:06:23.960 it transforms anger. 00:06:23.960 --> 00:06:28.507 You don't need to take it out. 00:06:29.317 --> 00:06:33.452 There are those who try to take it out 00:06:33.842 --> 00:06:36.451 There are those who advise you to... 00:06:36.451 --> 00:06:42.462 take it out by the practice of so-called 'ventilation'. 00:06:42.462 --> 00:06:46.116 It's as if there is smoke in your room 00:06:46.116 --> 00:06:50.481 and you want to ventilate the smoke to take it out. 00:06:50.481 --> 00:06:57.242 And the way is to go to your room and lock your door 00:06:57.242 --> 00:07:04.355 and to try to punch, to hit your pillow. 00:07:04.928 --> 00:07:10.812 for 10 minutes, 15 minutes. 00:07:10.812 --> 00:07:13.199 And they believe by doing so 00:07:13.199 --> 00:07:20.067 you may...take anger out of you 00:07:21.107 --> 00:07:23.569 'I am aware that anger is there.' 00:07:23.569 --> 00:07:26.598 'I want to take it out.' 00:07:27.458 --> 00:07:30.445 Because they think it is safer to hit the pillow 00:07:30.445 --> 00:07:33.880 then to hit the other person directly. 00:07:33.880 --> 00:07:37.746 And they call it 'take it out of your system'. 00:07:39.573 --> 00:07:41.646 But it does not work. 00:07:43.050 --> 00:07:45.442 It does not work. 00:07:45.442 --> 00:07:48.316 It may make your anger stronger. 00:07:50.326 --> 00:07:54.161 It is like rehearsing your anger 00:07:58.608 --> 00:08:02.764 And they call it 'getting in touch with your anger'. 00:08:03.634 --> 00:08:07.081 It's good to get in touch with your anger. 00:08:07.081 --> 00:08:12.200 The Buddha also advises us to breathe in 00:08:12.200 --> 00:08:16.420 and to go home and get in touch with our anger 00:08:16.760 --> 00:08:18.932 and embrace it tenderly 00:08:18.932 --> 00:08:23.302 and look deeply into your anger. 00:08:23.962 --> 00:08:31.323 But in this practice of... pounding... the pillow 00:08:32.433 --> 00:08:37.000 you don't really get in touch with your anger. 00:08:39.123 --> 00:08:41.802 You are a victim of your anger. 00:08:41.802 --> 00:08:44.755 You are not getting in touch. 00:08:44.755 --> 00:08:47.240 You are not even in touch with the pillow... 00:08:47.240 --> 00:08:50.449 (crowd laughs) 00:08:50.449 --> 00:08:52.720 even though you are hitting it. 00:08:52.720 --> 00:08:56.906 Because if you are really in touch with your pillow, 00:08:56.906 --> 00:08:59.175 you will know that it is only a pillow. 00:08:59.178 --> 00:09:01.919 (crowd laughs) 00:09:01.919 --> 00:09:04.121 It's funny to hit a pillow. 00:09:04.121 --> 00:09:05.754 The pillow is innocent. 00:09:05.754 --> 00:09:06.964 (crowd laughs) 00:09:06.964 --> 00:09:08.816 So if you cannot get in touch with the pillow 00:09:08.816 --> 00:09:13.287 you cannot get in touch with your anger. 00:09:14.205 --> 00:09:15.772 And if you continue like that 00:09:15.772 --> 00:09:20.842 maybe one day, meeting him on the street, you may like to... 00:09:21.343 --> 00:09:23.469 hit directly and you get in jail. 00:09:24.239 --> 00:09:29.921 So this work does not seem to help you to get it out. 00:09:31.831 --> 00:09:34.865 So according to this practice 00:09:35.675 --> 00:09:40.129 which the Buddha recommends, 00:09:40.129 --> 00:09:44.044 you have to come home and recognize anger 00:09:44.044 --> 00:09:47.023 and try to hold it with the energy of mindfulness. 00:09:47.023 --> 00:09:48.986 This is called mindfulness of anger. 00:09:49.779 --> 00:09:53.048 Mindfulness is always mindfulness of something. 00:09:53.048 --> 00:09:59.160 When I drink my tea and become aware 00:09:59.160 --> 00:10:04.804 that I am here and now, drinking my tea 00:10:04.804 --> 00:10:06.782 that is mindfulness of drinking. 00:10:08.257 --> 00:10:10.220 And when I breathe mindfully, 00:10:10.220 --> 00:10:12.769 that is mindfulness of breathing. 00:10:12.769 --> 00:10:14.614 When I walk mindfully, that is 00:10:14.614 --> 00:10:16.767 mindfulness of walking. 00:10:16.767 --> 00:10:18.491 So when I come home to myself 00:10:18.491 --> 00:10:21.740 and recognize my anger, and hold my anger 00:10:21.740 --> 00:10:25.080 anger becomes the object of my mindfulness 00:10:25.080 --> 00:10:27.839 It's called mindfulness of anger 00:10:27.839 --> 00:10:30.297 There are two energies: 00:10:30.297 --> 00:10:33.205 first there is the energy of anger, 00:10:33.205 --> 00:10:37.110 then. the second energy is the energy of mindfulness 00:10:37.215 --> 00:10:39.803 In order to have this energy 00:10:39.803 --> 00:10:43.407 you have to practice breathing and walking mindfully. 00:10:43.407 --> 00:10:49.992 And with the second energy, you recognize the first energy and embrace it tenderly, 00:10:50.004 --> 00:10:52.952 not suppressing... 00:10:56.922 --> 00:11:01.250 ...but embracing tenderly 00:11:01.250 --> 00:11:04.100 Like a mother embracing her ... 00:11:06.540 --> 00:11:08.960 her suffering...baby. 00:11:11.864 --> 00:11:14.445 And when the energy of mindfulness 00:11:14.445 --> 00:11:16.310 is embracing the energy of anger, 00:11:16.310 --> 00:11:18.166 you suffer less. 00:11:19.931 --> 00:11:25.384 It's like the sunshine embracing the lotus flower. 00:11:25.384 --> 00:11:28.080 The lotus flower gets the warmth, 00:11:28.080 --> 00:11:32.400 the energy, in order to bloom. 00:11:32.400 --> 00:11:34.953 So when you use the energy of mindfulness 00:11:34.953 --> 00:11:38.080 in order to embrace your anger 00:11:38.080 --> 00:11:40.288 you suffer less, you get a relief. 00:11:40.323 --> 00:11:42.643 You suffer less. 00:11:42.643 --> 00:11:44.807 And if you look more deeply 00:11:44.807 --> 00:11:49.560 you can identify the cause of your anger. 00:11:49.560 --> 00:11:51.365 That may be a wrong perception. 00:11:51.365 --> 00:11:53.918 That may be your lack of capacity to 00:11:53.918 --> 00:11:57.622 see the suffering of the other person. 00:11:57.622 --> 00:12:01.360 And if you identify your wrong perception 00:12:01.360 --> 00:12:04.279 and if you can see the suffering of the other person 00:12:04.279 --> 00:12:07.967 suddenly that kind of understanding. 00:12:07.967 --> 00:12:12.091 that vision makes compassion arise. 00:12:12.091 --> 00:12:13.858 And when compassion arises, 00:12:13.858 --> 00:12:16.164 that is a kind of nectar 00:12:16.164 --> 00:12:18.149 that makes you suffer less right away. 00:12:18.149 --> 00:12:19.526 You get a relief. 00:12:19.526 --> 00:12:21.732 And you can transform it. 00:12:26.102 --> 00:12:35.519 And this...practice always works. 00:12:36.402 --> 00:12:39.096 You know that in Plum Village, in the past 00:12:39.096 --> 00:12:45.196 we used to sponsor groups of Palestinans and Israelis 00:12:45.196 --> 00:12:47.041 to come and practice. 00:12:47.840 --> 00:12:51.679 And there is a lot of misunderstanding, 00:12:51.679 --> 00:12:54.450 anger and suspicion in each group. 00:12:57.440 --> 00:13:01.021 And if they can stay for two weeks, 00:13:01.021 --> 00:13:05.578 transformation and healing can be possible 00:13:05.578 --> 00:13:11.205 We practice calming, releasing tension. 00:13:11.205 --> 00:13:13.755 We practice getting in touch with 00:13:13.755 --> 00:13:17.402 the wonders of life in order to nourish us. 00:13:17.402 --> 00:13:20.404 And we also practicing breathing 00:13:20.404 --> 00:13:24.040 in order to recognize our suspicion, 00:13:24.040 --> 00:13:28.065 our fear, our anger. 00:13:28.535 --> 00:13:32.141 And then we sit down and try 00:13:32.141 --> 00:13:34.732 to listen to each other 00:13:35.972 --> 00:13:39.196 and to tell the other group about 00:13:39.196 --> 00:13:40.521 our own suffering, 00:13:40.521 --> 00:13:42.223 our own fear 00:13:43.523 --> 00:13:48.920 We use the practice of the 4th mindfulness training: 00:13:48.920 --> 00:13:53.157 Loving Speech and Deep Listening. 00:13:54.444 --> 00:13:58.796 You can tell them everything in your heart: 00:13:58.796 --> 00:14:02.329 your suffering, your fear, your anger 00:14:03.459 --> 00:14:07.108 But you tell it in such a way that the other person, the other group 00:14:07.108 --> 00:14:08.813 can understand you; 00:14:08.813 --> 00:14:10.800 Help them to understand. 00:14:12.044 --> 00:14:16.073 So during the time you speak, 00:14:16.073 --> 00:14:20.022 you do not condemn, you do not blame. 00:14:21.312 --> 00:14:23.715 You just try to help them to understand 00:14:23.715 --> 00:14:26.163 how much you suffer, 00:14:26.163 --> 00:14:30.052 you and your people and your children. 00:14:30.052 --> 00:14:33.141 In that way you help them to understand your suffering. 00:14:36.282 --> 00:14:41.235 And then it will be your turn to sit 00:14:41.235 --> 00:14:43.908 and listen to their suffering. 00:14:43.908 --> 00:14:46.368 They will tell you 00:14:46.368 --> 00:14:49.838 their suffering, their fear, their despair. 00:14:49.838 --> 00:14:53.054 And you have to listen. 00:14:53.732 --> 00:14:56.883 And during the time they speak 00:14:56.883 --> 00:14:59.475 you may notice they have 00:14:59.475 --> 00:15:02.153 wrong perceptions of you. 00:15:05.463 --> 00:15:08.563 And you want to correct them. 00:15:08.563 --> 00:15:10.144 But according to this practice 00:15:10.144 --> 00:15:12.320 you shouldn't correct them. 00:15:12.680 --> 00:15:14.287 Because if you correct them 00:15:14.287 --> 00:15:15.612 while they speak 00:15:15.612 --> 00:15:16.821 you will transform the session 00:15:16.821 --> 00:15:19.430 into a debate. 00:15:20.540 --> 00:15:23.724 That's not the practice of deep listening. 00:15:23.724 --> 00:15:27.077 You say: "Oh, they say wrong things because 00:15:27.077 --> 00:15:30.364 they have not seen the truth." 00:15:30.364 --> 00:15:33.284 "But I have the time to help them 00:15:33.284 --> 00:15:38.043 to correct their perceptions in a few days, 00:15:38.043 --> 00:15:42.043 because they will be there for another week." 00:15:42.043 --> 00:15:44.046 "So in a few days we will have a chance 00:15:44.046 --> 00:15:46.960 to tell them, to give them the kind 00:15:46.960 --> 00:15:48.894 of information that can help them 00:15:48.894 --> 00:15:50.442 to correct their perceptions." 00:15:50.442 --> 00:15:51.844 "But not now." 00:15:51.844 --> 00:15:58.964 "Now we have to listen, 00:15:58.964 --> 00:16:00.963 listen attentively." 00:16:00.963 --> 00:16:03.254 Listening like this is called 00:16:03.254 --> 00:16:05.964 'compassionate listening'. 00:16:06.754 --> 00:16:08.486 And if you know how to listen with 00:16:08.486 --> 00:16:10.695 compassion for one hour, 00:16:10.695 --> 00:16:13.284 they will suffer less. 00:16:13.284 --> 00:16:15.160 So we are practicing compassion. 00:16:15.160 --> 00:16:18.788 We are giving them a chance to suffer less 00:16:22.118 --> 00:16:23.354 And that is the practice of the 00:16:23.354 --> 00:16:25.360 fourth mindfulness training. 00:16:25.360 --> 00:16:27.304 Listening with compassion in order 00:16:27.304 --> 00:16:30.611 to help other people to suffer less. 00:16:30.611 --> 00:16:33.803 You may do it with your husband, your wife 00:16:33.803 --> 00:16:35.841 with your son, with your daughter, 00:16:35.841 --> 00:16:39.062 with your father or mother. 00:16:39.062 --> 00:16:43.229 And listen so that they have a chance 00:16:43.229 --> 00:16:46.517 to empty their heart. 00:16:46.517 --> 00:16:50.008 That is compassion. 00:16:50.008 --> 00:16:52.837 And after a week of practice 00:16:52.837 --> 00:17:00.030 we are able to remove many wrong perceptions. 00:17:00.030 --> 00:17:02.886 We increase our mutual understanding. 00:17:02.886 --> 00:17:06.555 And the two groups can sit down, 00:17:06.555 --> 00:17:11.716 can hold hands to do walking meditation, 00:17:11.716 --> 00:17:14.779 and share a meal together. 00:17:15.919 --> 00:17:20.433 Brotherhood, sisterhood is born. 00:17:20.849 --> 00:17:24.727 So this is a very important practice. 00:17:29.527 --> 00:17:32.509 And we believe that politicians 00:17:32.509 --> 00:17:35.303 have to learn this practice. 00:17:35.841 --> 00:17:39.280 When they come to a peace negotiation, 00:17:39.280 --> 00:17:41.356 they should follow the instructions 00:17:41.356 --> 00:17:43.203 of calming, 00:17:44.123 --> 00:17:45.910 releasing, 00:17:46.800 --> 00:17:49.249 recognizing suffering inside, 00:17:49.249 --> 00:17:52.065 recognizing the suffering in the other person. 00:17:52.705 --> 00:17:55.360 And if they spent 1 week or 2 weeks 00:17:55.360 --> 00:17:57.402 practicing like that, 00:17:57.402 --> 00:18:00.976 their negotiations for peace will be fruitful. 00:18:03.726 --> 00:18:08.640 And I think that in schools of political science 00:18:08.640 --> 00:18:11.930 students have to learn this kind of practice. 00:18:11.930 --> 00:18:14.120 They don't need to be a Buddhist 00:18:14.120 --> 00:18:16.205 in order to learn. 00:18:16.205 --> 00:18:18.382 This is applied ethics that can be 00:18:18.382 --> 00:18:21.534 taught in every kind of school, 00:18:21.534 --> 00:18:24.610 including elementary school. 00:18:24.910 --> 00:18:28.200 Because children can learn the practice 00:18:28.200 --> 00:18:31.127 and reconcile with their brothers and sisters 00:18:31.127 --> 00:18:33.077 and reconcile with their parents 00:18:33.077 --> 00:18:36.309 and even help their parents. 00:18:36.309 --> 00:18:37.768 They are many retreats organized 00:18:37.768 --> 00:18:40.057 for young people, children. 00:18:40.057 --> 00:18:42.187 And the children are transformed 00:18:42.187 --> 00:18:44.932 when they are able to see the suffering 00:18:44.932 --> 00:18:47.560 in their father, in their mother. 00:18:47.560 --> 00:18:49.847 And they come home after the retreat, 00:18:49.847 --> 00:18:51.838 listen to their father and their mother 00:18:51.838 --> 00:18:54.708 and help them to suffer less. 00:18:54.708 --> 00:18:56.034 It's a miracle 00:18:56.034 --> 00:19:00.773 It always happens in our retreats 00:19:08.033 --> 00:19:22.025 (bell)