1 00:00:09,152 --> 00:00:16,944 (bell) 2 00:00:27,236 --> 00:00:29,020 Dear Thay, Dear Sangha 3 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:38,704 [SPANISH] At times I control a lot of anger coming up. 4 00:00:38,704 --> 00:00:43,469 I keep it inside, but then it suddenly explodes. 5 00:00:43,475 --> 00:00:45,048 I let it all out at once, 6 00:00:45,173 --> 00:00:49,307 without knowing why and without being able to control it. 7 00:00:49,557 --> 00:00:56,660 When my anger explodes I hurt the other person a lot. 8 00:00:59,639 --> 00:01:03,500 And then I do not have compassion for the other person. 9 00:01:06,697 --> 00:01:13,407 After I have calmed down and I have let all my anger out, 10 00:01:13,470 --> 00:01:17,070 then I have compassion and I am aware that I made him suffer. 11 00:01:17,098 --> 00:01:19,802 But in the moment itself, I cannot do anything. 12 00:01:20,479 --> 00:01:22,129 How can I do this? 13 00:01:24,783 --> 00:01:26,603 Dear Thay, our friend is saying that... 14 00:01:26,603 --> 00:01:30,099 This is another question about anger. 15 00:01:30,099 --> 00:01:33,595 She feels a lot of anger come up sometimes. 16 00:01:34,081 --> 00:01:36,760 and she doesn't want to let it come out. 17 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:41,176 So she tries to keep it under control, she's pushing it down. 18 00:01:41,176 --> 00:01:44,498 But then, at some point it explodes, it comes out. 19 00:01:44,498 --> 00:01:48,489 and she can hurt the other person. 20 00:01:48,489 --> 00:01:50,882 She feels sorry to hurt the other person. 21 00:01:50,882 --> 00:01:54,739 She feels compassion for the suffering she caused him. 22 00:01:54,959 --> 00:02:00,227 And she wants to know how she can take better care of the situation. 23 00:02:02,669 --> 00:02:07,080 Is she capable of seeing the suffering of the other person? 24 00:02:09,592 --> 00:02:15,245 [FRENCH] Can she see the suffering in the other person? 25 00:02:15,681 --> 00:02:20,760 And when? Before or after the explosion? 26 00:02:39,822 --> 00:02:42,685 I do see their suffering 27 00:02:42,685 --> 00:02:46,817 but I still have the strong emotion come up. 28 00:02:46,817 --> 00:02:48,830 What can I do? 29 00:02:56,037 --> 00:02:57,987 To control is not enough. 30 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:02,749 To control may be to suppress. 31 00:03:03,561 --> 00:03:05,505 Suppressing is not good, 32 00:03:06,256 --> 00:03:10,200 because it is always there, you pin it down 33 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:12,161 but it is still there. 34 00:03:12,677 --> 00:03:16,922 So suppressing is not good. 35 00:03:16,922 --> 00:03:20,193 We have to transform. 36 00:03:23,212 --> 00:03:28,516 And to transform you need compassion. 37 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:35,171 The only antidote for anger, violence is compassion. 38 00:03:37,424 --> 00:03:39,406 There is no other way. 39 00:03:40,368 --> 00:03:44,486 But how to fabricate compassion? 40 00:03:44,486 --> 00:03:46,600 How to generate the energy of compassion? 41 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:49,264 That is the real question. 42 00:03:49,264 --> 00:03:53,640 And in this retreat we have learnt 43 00:03:54,379 --> 00:03:56,960 to recognize the suffering. 44 00:03:59,050 --> 00:04:01,861 Because the suffering in that person is 45 00:04:01,868 --> 00:04:07,000 the cause of his action or of words that can make you suffer. 46 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:14,922 The anger in him waters the anger in you. 47 00:04:16,845 --> 00:04:22,440 The violence in him waters the violence in you. 48 00:04:25,540 --> 00:04:32,120 And that is why...we have to breathe in and out mindfully 49 00:04:32,121 --> 00:04:40,291 and to look, to see that the other person is a victim 50 00:04:40,317 --> 00:04:46,288 of his own violence, his own suffering, his own misunderstanding. 51 00:04:46,288 --> 00:04:48,310 This is very important. 52 00:04:49,768 --> 00:04:52,676 This is the teaching of the Buddha: 53 00:04:52,676 --> 00:04:54,732 look at suffering 54 00:04:54,732 --> 00:04:58,119 and understand suffering. 55 00:04:58,119 --> 00:05:01,200 When you understand your own suffering 56 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:06,158 you can understand the suffering of the other person. 57 00:05:06,158 --> 00:05:09,436 Understanding suffering always brings compassion. 58 00:05:09,436 --> 00:05:17,192 And only compassion can transform anger and violence. 59 00:05:19,009 --> 00:05:23,581 There are those of us who think we can 60 00:05:25,351 --> 00:05:28,958 take the block of anger out of us 61 00:05:30,243 --> 00:05:34,078 like doing surgery. 62 00:05:37,929 --> 00:05:40,264 But you cannot do that with anger. 63 00:05:40,264 --> 00:05:45,392 You cannot take anger out of you. 64 00:05:45,392 --> 00:05:48,157 You can only transform it. 65 00:05:48,157 --> 00:05:52,239 Anger can be transformed into something else. 66 00:05:52,239 --> 00:05:55,889 Anger can be transformed into understanding and compassion 67 00:05:56,530 --> 00:06:02,000 And that is the work of the practitioner: 68 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:04,120 looking into the suffering, 69 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:07,437 your own suffering and the suffering of the other. 70 00:06:07,437 --> 00:06:11,890 And try to understand the cause. 71 00:06:11,890 --> 00:06:16,498 That is the way to generate 72 00:06:16,498 --> 00:06:19,395 the energy of compassion. 73 00:06:19,395 --> 00:06:21,840 And when compassion is there 74 00:06:21,840 --> 00:06:23,960 it transforms anger. 75 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:28,507 You don't need to take it out. 76 00:06:29,317 --> 00:06:33,452 There are those who try to take it out 77 00:06:33,842 --> 00:06:36,451 There are those who advise you to... 78 00:06:36,451 --> 00:06:42,462 take it out by the practice of so-called 'ventilation'. 79 00:06:42,462 --> 00:06:46,116 It's as if there is smoke in your room 80 00:06:46,116 --> 00:06:50,481 and you want to ventilate the smoke to take it out. 81 00:06:50,481 --> 00:06:57,242 And the way is to go to your room and lock your door 82 00:06:57,242 --> 00:07:04,355 and to try to punch, to hit your pillow. 83 00:07:04,928 --> 00:07:10,812 for 10 minutes, 15 minutes. 84 00:07:10,812 --> 00:07:13,199 And they believe by doing so 85 00:07:13,199 --> 00:07:20,067 you may...take anger out of you 86 00:07:21,107 --> 00:07:23,569 'I am aware that anger is there.' 87 00:07:23,569 --> 00:07:26,598 'I want to take it out.' 88 00:07:27,458 --> 00:07:30,445 Because they think it is safer to hit the pillow 89 00:07:30,445 --> 00:07:33,880 then to hit the other person directly. 90 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:37,746 And they call it 'take it out of your system'. 91 00:07:39,573 --> 00:07:41,646 But it does not work. 92 00:07:43,050 --> 00:07:45,442 It does not work. 93 00:07:45,442 --> 00:07:48,316 It may make your anger stronger. 94 00:07:50,326 --> 00:07:54,161 It is like rehearsing your anger 95 00:07:58,608 --> 00:08:02,764 And they call it 'getting in touch with your anger'. 96 00:08:03,634 --> 00:08:07,081 It's good to get in touch with your anger. 97 00:08:07,081 --> 00:08:12,200 The Buddha also advises us to breathe in 98 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:16,420 and to go home and get in touch with our anger 99 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:18,932 and embrace it tenderly 100 00:08:18,932 --> 00:08:23,302 and look deeply into your anger. 101 00:08:23,962 --> 00:08:31,323 But in this practice of... pounding... the pillow 102 00:08:32,433 --> 00:08:37,000 you don't really get in touch with your anger. 103 00:08:39,123 --> 00:08:41,802 You are a victim of your anger. 104 00:08:41,802 --> 00:08:44,755 You are not getting in touch. 105 00:08:44,755 --> 00:08:47,240 You are not even in touch with the pillow... 106 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:50,449 (crowd laughs) 107 00:08:50,449 --> 00:08:52,720 even though you are hitting it. 108 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:56,906 Because if you are really in touch with your pillow, 109 00:08:56,906 --> 00:08:59,175 you will know that it is only a pillow. 110 00:08:59,178 --> 00:09:01,919 (crowd laughs) 111 00:09:01,919 --> 00:09:04,121 It's funny to hit a pillow. 112 00:09:04,121 --> 00:09:05,754 The pillow is innocent. 113 00:09:05,754 --> 00:09:06,964 (crowd laughs) 114 00:09:06,964 --> 00:09:08,816 So if you cannot get in touch with the pillow 115 00:09:08,816 --> 00:09:13,287 you cannot get in touch with your anger. 116 00:09:14,205 --> 00:09:15,772 And if you continue like that 117 00:09:15,772 --> 00:09:20,842 maybe one day, meeting him on the street, you may like to... 118 00:09:21,343 --> 00:09:23,469 hit directly and you get in jail. 119 00:09:24,239 --> 00:09:29,921 So this work does not seem to help you to get it out. 120 00:09:31,831 --> 00:09:34,865 So according to this practice 121 00:09:35,675 --> 00:09:40,129 which the Buddha recommends, 122 00:09:40,129 --> 00:09:44,044 you have to come home and recognize anger 123 00:09:44,044 --> 00:09:47,023 and try to hold it with the energy of mindfulness. 124 00:09:47,023 --> 00:09:48,986 This is called mindfulness of anger. 125 00:09:49,779 --> 00:09:53,048 Mindfulness is always mindfulness of something. 126 00:09:53,048 --> 00:09:59,160 When I drink my tea and become aware 127 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:04,804 that I am here and now, drinking my tea 128 00:10:04,804 --> 00:10:06,782 that is mindfulness of drinking. 129 00:10:08,257 --> 00:10:10,220 And when I breathe mindfully, 130 00:10:10,220 --> 00:10:12,769 that is mindfulness of breathing. 131 00:10:12,769 --> 00:10:14,614 When I walk mindfully, that is 132 00:10:14,614 --> 00:10:16,767 mindfulness of walking. 133 00:10:16,767 --> 00:10:18,491 So when I come home to myself 134 00:10:18,491 --> 00:10:21,740 and recognize my anger, and hold my anger 135 00:10:21,740 --> 00:10:25,080 anger becomes the object of my mindfulness 136 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:27,839 It's called mindfulness of anger 137 00:10:27,839 --> 00:10:30,297 There are two energies: 138 00:10:30,297 --> 00:10:33,205 first there is the energy of anger, 139 00:10:33,205 --> 00:10:37,110 then. the second energy is the energy of mindfulness 140 00:10:37,215 --> 00:10:39,803 In order to have this energy 141 00:10:39,803 --> 00:10:43,407 you have to practice breathing and walking mindfully. 142 00:10:43,407 --> 00:10:49,992 And with the second energy, you recognize the first energy and embrace it tenderly, 143 00:10:50,004 --> 00:10:52,952 not suppressing... 144 00:10:56,922 --> 00:11:01,250 ...but embracing tenderly 145 00:11:01,250 --> 00:11:04,100 Like a mother embracing her ... 146 00:11:06,540 --> 00:11:08,960 her suffering...baby. 147 00:11:11,864 --> 00:11:14,445 And when the energy of mindfulness 148 00:11:14,445 --> 00:11:16,310 is embracing the energy of anger, 149 00:11:16,310 --> 00:11:18,166 you suffer less. 150 00:11:19,931 --> 00:11:25,384 It's like the sunshine embracing the lotus flower. 151 00:11:25,384 --> 00:11:28,080 The lotus flower gets the warmth, 152 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:32,400 the energy, in order to bloom. 153 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:34,953 So when you use the energy of mindfulness 154 00:11:34,953 --> 00:11:38,080 in order to embrace your anger 155 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:40,288 you suffer less, you get a relief. 156 00:11:40,323 --> 00:11:42,643 You suffer less. 157 00:11:42,643 --> 00:11:44,807 And if you look more deeply 158 00:11:44,807 --> 00:11:49,560 you can identify the cause of your anger. 159 00:11:49,560 --> 00:11:51,365 That may be a wrong perception. 160 00:11:51,365 --> 00:11:53,918 That may be your lack of capacity to 161 00:11:53,918 --> 00:11:57,622 see the suffering of the other person. 162 00:11:57,622 --> 00:12:01,360 And if you identify your wrong perception 163 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:04,279 and if you can see the suffering of the other person 164 00:12:04,279 --> 00:12:07,967 suddenly that kind of understanding. 165 00:12:07,967 --> 00:12:12,091 that vision makes compassion arise. 166 00:12:12,091 --> 00:12:13,858 And when compassion arises, 167 00:12:13,858 --> 00:12:16,164 that is a kind of nectar 168 00:12:16,164 --> 00:12:18,149 that makes you suffer less right away. 169 00:12:18,149 --> 00:12:19,526 You get a relief. 170 00:12:19,526 --> 00:12:21,732 And you can transform it. 171 00:12:26,102 --> 00:12:35,519 And this...practice always works. 172 00:12:36,402 --> 00:12:39,096 You know that in Plum Village, in the past 173 00:12:39,096 --> 00:12:45,196 we used to sponsor groups of Palestinans and Israelis 174 00:12:45,196 --> 00:12:47,041 to come and practice. 175 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:51,679 And there is a lot of misunderstanding, 176 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:54,450 anger and suspicion in each group. 177 00:12:57,440 --> 00:13:01,021 And if they can stay for two weeks, 178 00:13:01,021 --> 00:13:05,578 transformation and healing can be possible 179 00:13:05,578 --> 00:13:11,205 We practice calming, releasing tension. 180 00:13:11,205 --> 00:13:13,755 We practice getting in touch with 181 00:13:13,755 --> 00:13:17,402 the wonders of life in order to nourish us. 182 00:13:17,402 --> 00:13:20,404 And we also practicing breathing 183 00:13:20,404 --> 00:13:24,040 in order to recognize our suspicion, 184 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:28,065 our fear, our anger. 185 00:13:28,535 --> 00:13:32,141 And then we sit down and try 186 00:13:32,141 --> 00:13:34,732 to listen to each other 187 00:13:35,972 --> 00:13:39,196 and to tell the other group about 188 00:13:39,196 --> 00:13:40,521 our own suffering, 189 00:13:40,521 --> 00:13:42,223 our own fear 190 00:13:43,523 --> 00:13:48,920 We use the practice of the 4th mindfulness training: 191 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:53,157 Loving Speech and Deep Listening. 192 00:13:54,444 --> 00:13:58,796 You can tell them everything in your heart: 193 00:13:58,796 --> 00:14:02,329 your suffering, your fear, your anger 194 00:14:03,459 --> 00:14:07,108 But you tell it in such a way that the other person, the other group 195 00:14:07,108 --> 00:14:08,813 can understand you; 196 00:14:08,813 --> 00:14:10,800 Help them to understand. 197 00:14:12,044 --> 00:14:16,073 So during the time you speak, 198 00:14:16,073 --> 00:14:20,022 you do not condemn, you do not blame. 199 00:14:21,312 --> 00:14:23,715 You just try to help them to understand 200 00:14:23,715 --> 00:14:26,163 how much you suffer, 201 00:14:26,163 --> 00:14:30,052 you and your people and your children. 202 00:14:30,052 --> 00:14:33,141 In that way you help them to understand your suffering. 203 00:14:36,282 --> 00:14:41,235 And then it will be your turn to sit 204 00:14:41,235 --> 00:14:43,908 and listen to their suffering. 205 00:14:43,908 --> 00:14:46,368 They will tell you 206 00:14:46,368 --> 00:14:49,838 their suffering, their fear, their despair. 207 00:14:49,838 --> 00:14:53,054 And you have to listen. 208 00:14:53,732 --> 00:14:56,883 And during the time they speak 209 00:14:56,883 --> 00:14:59,475 you may notice they have 210 00:14:59,475 --> 00:15:02,153 wrong perceptions of you. 211 00:15:05,463 --> 00:15:08,563 And you want to correct them. 212 00:15:08,563 --> 00:15:10,144 But according to this practice 213 00:15:10,144 --> 00:15:12,320 you shouldn't correct them. 214 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:14,287 Because if you correct them 215 00:15:14,287 --> 00:15:15,612 while they speak 216 00:15:15,612 --> 00:15:16,821 you will transform the session 217 00:15:16,821 --> 00:15:19,430 into a debate. 218 00:15:20,540 --> 00:15:23,724 That's not the practice of deep listening. 219 00:15:23,724 --> 00:15:27,077 You say: "Oh, they say wrong things because 220 00:15:27,077 --> 00:15:30,364 they have not seen the truth." 221 00:15:30,364 --> 00:15:33,284 "But I have the time to help them 222 00:15:33,284 --> 00:15:38,043 to correct their perceptions in a few days, 223 00:15:38,043 --> 00:15:42,043 because they will be there for another week." 224 00:15:42,043 --> 00:15:44,046 "So in a few days we will have a chance 225 00:15:44,046 --> 00:15:46,960 to tell them, to give them the kind 226 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:48,894 of information that can help them 227 00:15:48,894 --> 00:15:50,442 to correct their perceptions." 228 00:15:50,442 --> 00:15:51,844 "But not now." 229 00:15:51,844 --> 00:15:58,964 "Now we have to listen, 230 00:15:58,964 --> 00:16:00,963 listen attentively." 231 00:16:00,963 --> 00:16:03,254 Listening like this is called 232 00:16:03,254 --> 00:16:05,964 'compassionate listening'. 233 00:16:06,754 --> 00:16:08,486 And if you know how to listen with 234 00:16:08,486 --> 00:16:10,695 compassion for one hour, 235 00:16:10,695 --> 00:16:13,284 they will suffer less. 236 00:16:13,284 --> 00:16:15,160 So we are practicing compassion. 237 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:18,788 We are giving them a chance to suffer less 238 00:16:22,118 --> 00:16:23,354 And that is the practice of the 239 00:16:23,354 --> 00:16:25,360 fourth mindfulness training. 240 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:27,304 Listening with compassion in order 241 00:16:27,304 --> 00:16:30,611 to help other people to suffer less. 242 00:16:30,611 --> 00:16:33,803 You may do it with your husband, your wife 243 00:16:33,803 --> 00:16:35,841 with your son, with your daughter, 244 00:16:35,841 --> 00:16:39,062 with your father or mother. 245 00:16:39,062 --> 00:16:43,229 And listen so that they have a chance 246 00:16:43,229 --> 00:16:46,517 to empty their heart. 247 00:16:46,517 --> 00:16:50,008 That is compassion. 248 00:16:50,008 --> 00:16:52,837 And after a week of practice 249 00:16:52,837 --> 00:17:00,030 we are able to remove many wrong perceptions. 250 00:17:00,030 --> 00:17:02,886 We increase our mutual understanding. 251 00:17:02,886 --> 00:17:06,555 And the two groups can sit down, 252 00:17:06,555 --> 00:17:11,716 can hold hands to do walking meditation, 253 00:17:11,716 --> 00:17:14,779 and share a meal together. 254 00:17:15,919 --> 00:17:20,433 Brotherhood, sisterhood is born. 255 00:17:20,849 --> 00:17:24,727 So this is a very important practice. 256 00:17:29,527 --> 00:17:32,509 And we believe that politicians 257 00:17:32,509 --> 00:17:35,303 have to learn this practice. 258 00:17:35,841 --> 00:17:39,280 When they come to a peace negotiation, 259 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:41,356 they should follow the instructions 260 00:17:41,356 --> 00:17:43,203 of calming, 261 00:17:44,123 --> 00:17:45,910 releasing, 262 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:49,249 recognizing suffering inside, 263 00:17:49,249 --> 00:17:52,065 recognizing the suffering in the other person. 264 00:17:52,705 --> 00:17:55,360 And if they spent 1 week or 2 weeks 265 00:17:55,360 --> 00:17:57,402 practicing like that, 266 00:17:57,402 --> 00:18:00,976 their negotiations for peace will be fruitful. 267 00:18:03,726 --> 00:18:08,640 And I think that in schools of political science 268 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:11,930 students have to learn this kind of practice. 269 00:18:11,930 --> 00:18:14,120 They don't need to be a Buddhist 270 00:18:14,120 --> 00:18:16,205 in order to learn. 271 00:18:16,205 --> 00:18:18,382 This is applied ethics that can be 272 00:18:18,382 --> 00:18:21,534 taught in every kind of school, 273 00:18:21,534 --> 00:18:24,610 including elementary school. 274 00:18:24,910 --> 00:18:28,200 Because children can learn the practice 275 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:31,127 and reconcile with their brothers and sisters 276 00:18:31,127 --> 00:18:33,077 and reconcile with their parents 277 00:18:33,077 --> 00:18:36,309 and even help their parents. 278 00:18:36,309 --> 00:18:37,768 They are many retreats organized 279 00:18:37,768 --> 00:18:40,057 for young people, children. 280 00:18:40,057 --> 00:18:42,187 And the children are transformed 281 00:18:42,187 --> 00:18:44,932 when they are able to see the suffering 282 00:18:44,932 --> 00:18:47,560 in their father, in their mother. 283 00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:49,847 And they come home after the retreat, 284 00:18:49,847 --> 00:18:51,838 listen to their father and their mother 285 00:18:51,838 --> 00:18:54,708 and help them to suffer less. 286 00:18:54,708 --> 00:18:56,034 It's a miracle 287 00:18:56,034 --> 00:19:00,773 It always happens in our retreats 288 00:19:08,033 --> 00:19:22,025 (bell)