[Script Info] Title: [Events] Format: Layer, Start, End, Style, Name, MarginL, MarginR, MarginV, Effect, Text Dialogue: 0,0:00:05.23,0:00:08.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So this is from Sam Rodman. Dialogue: 0,0:00:08.31,0:00:10.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He writes, "Hello, Tim. Dialogue: 0,0:00:10.61,0:00:13.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Please clarify this for me..." Dialogue: 0,0:00:13.51,0:00:15.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now what I'm wanting you to think Dialogue: 0,0:00:15.48,0:00:18.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is somebody asks you this question. Dialogue: 0,0:00:18.60,0:00:20.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How would you answer? Dialogue: 0,0:00:20.11,0:00:22.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Where would you go in Scripture? Dialogue: 0,0:00:22.55,0:00:29.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What would your counsel be Dialogue: 0,0:00:29.81,0:00:34.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to an individual that asked you this? Dialogue: 0,0:00:34.58,0:00:37.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Please clarify this for me. Dialogue: 0,0:00:37.77,0:00:41.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Regarding the thief on the cross, Dialogue: 0,0:00:41.99,0:00:47.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how do you compare \Nhis salvation with ours?" Dialogue: 0,0:00:47.48,0:00:52.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So he's obviously thinking Dialogue: 0,0:00:52.62,0:00:55.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that there's something different Dialogue: 0,0:00:55.08,0:01:01.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about his salvation and ours. Dialogue: 0,0:01:01.01,0:01:03.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"How do you compare them? Dialogue: 0,0:01:03.19,0:01:09.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean, he did not live \Na good life at all. Dialogue: 0,0:01:09.04,0:01:11.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He did not show any fruit of repentance. Dialogue: 0,0:01:11.86,0:01:13.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He did not live right, Dialogue: 0,0:01:13.66,0:01:17.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,yet Jesus saved him anyway. Dialogue: 0,0:01:17.19,0:01:19.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How was Jesus able to save him Dialogue: 0,0:01:19.70,0:01:21.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when we are clearly instructed Dialogue: 0,0:01:21.84,0:01:24.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to live right and to turn from sin? Dialogue: 0,0:01:24.65,0:01:25.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,As I understand it, Dialogue: 0,0:01:25.98,0:01:27.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he was the only one in Scripture Dialogue: 0,0:01:27.55,0:01:30.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who had this deathbed salvation. Dialogue: 0,0:01:30.41,0:01:34.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So we can't rely on that, Dialogue: 0,0:01:34.81,0:01:37.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but you know what I mean. Dialogue: 0,0:01:37.15,0:01:40.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thank you very much. \NSincerely, Sam Rodman." Dialogue: 0,0:01:40.43,0:01:42.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now I know this is probably an easy one. Dialogue: 0,0:01:42.90,0:01:44.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But here's the thing, Dialogue: 0,0:01:44.92,0:01:46.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you want to answer people biblically. Dialogue: 0,0:01:46.74,0:01:51.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You want to answer them clearly. Dialogue: 0,0:01:51.42,0:01:54.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You want to lay down a good, Dialogue: 0,0:01:54.33,0:01:57.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,strong explanation or argument Dialogue: 0,0:01:57.82,0:02:01.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if you're answering. Dialogue: 0,0:02:01.19,0:02:04.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So how do you answer? Dialogue: 0,0:02:04.61,0:02:06.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Maybe the first thing we need to do Dialogue: 0,0:02:06.98,0:02:09.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is open up our Bibles to Luke 23 Dialogue: 0,0:02:09.92,0:02:17.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to the passage where \Nthe thief on the cross - Dialogue: 0,0:02:17.02,0:02:21.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's the only account in the Gospels Dialogue: 0,0:02:21.15,0:02:24.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of this thief being saved. Dialogue: 0,0:02:24.22,0:02:27.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We see him show up in the others, Dialogue: 0,0:02:27.48,0:02:32.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but this is the only one \Nthat we're actually told. Dialogue: 0,0:02:32.74,0:02:34.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think that's interesting. Dialogue: 0,0:02:34.15,0:02:36.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Do you guys find that interesting? Dialogue: 0,0:02:36.63,0:02:41.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That the other authors could refer to him Dialogue: 0,0:02:41.32,0:02:44.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but not mention that he got saved? Dialogue: 0,0:02:44.87,0:02:47.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Doesn't that make you wonder Dialogue: 0,0:02:47.11,0:02:51.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what all manner of things \Nwe're not told about? Dialogue: 0,0:02:51.69,0:02:56.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Anyway... Dialogue: 0,0:02:56.56,0:02:58.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Luke 23. Dialogue: 0,0:02:58.67,0:03:02.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Do you guys all have it? Dialogue: 0,0:03:02.77,0:03:12.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, I'll start reading in verse 39. Dialogue: 0,0:03:12.16,0:03:16.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"One of the criminals who were hanged Dialogue: 0,0:03:16.92,0:03:20.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,railed at Him..." Dialogue: 0,0:03:20.13,0:03:21.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Railed at Christ. Dialogue: 0,0:03:21.65,0:03:24.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"...Saying, 'Are You not the Christ? Dialogue: 0,0:03:24.34,0:03:27.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Save Yourself and us!' Dialogue: 0,0:03:27.54,0:03:30.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But the other rebuked him, saying, Dialogue: 0,0:03:30.49,0:03:31.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'Do you not fear God Dialogue: 0,0:03:31.83,0:03:33.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,since you are under the same sentence Dialogue: 0,0:03:33.70,0:03:36.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of condemnation? Dialogue: 0,0:03:36.33,0:03:37.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we indeed justly, Dialogue: 0,0:03:37.76,0:03:40.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for we're receiving the \Nreward of our deeds. Dialogue: 0,0:03:40.48,0:03:43.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But this Man has done nothing wrong.' Dialogue: 0,0:03:43.80,0:03:46.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he said, 'Jesus, remember me Dialogue: 0,0:03:46.35,0:03:48.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when You come into Your kingdom.' Dialogue: 0,0:03:48.31,0:03:50.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And He said to him, "Truly, I say to you, Dialogue: 0,0:03:50.32,0:03:54.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,today, you will be with Me in paradise.'" Dialogue: 0,0:03:54.78,0:03:56.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So hear his question again: Dialogue: 0,0:03:56.38,0:03:57.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Please clarify this for me. Dialogue: 0,0:03:57.75,0:03:59.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Regarding the thief on the cross, Dialogue: 0,0:03:59.38,0:04:02.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how do you compare \Nhis salvation with ours? Dialogue: 0,0:04:02.13,0:04:04.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean, he did not live \Na good life at all. Dialogue: 0,0:04:04.66,0:04:06.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He did not show any fruit of repentance. Dialogue: 0,0:04:06.67,0:04:08.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He did not live right. Dialogue: 0,0:04:08.06,0:04:10.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yet, Jesus saved him anyway." Dialogue: 0,0:04:10.58,0:04:15.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think that's one of \Nthe telling statements. Dialogue: 0,0:04:15.73,0:04:18.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"He did not live right... Dialogue: 0,0:04:18.24,0:04:22.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,yet Jesus saved him anyway." Dialogue: 0,0:04:22.78,0:04:24.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Basically what that communicates Dialogue: 0,0:04:24.87,0:04:30.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is the fact that he's having difficulty Dialogue: 0,0:04:30.36,0:04:35.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,figuring out what salvation looks like. Dialogue: 0,0:04:35.43,0:04:38.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean, I think he has a difficulty Dialogue: 0,0:04:38.86,0:04:43.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,discerning between what saves Dialogue: 0,0:04:43.40,0:04:46.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,versus what proves that we're saved. Dialogue: 0,0:04:46.95,0:04:49.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There is a proof of \Nsalvation in Scripture. Dialogue: 0,0:04:49.30,0:04:53.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's various characteristics Dialogue: 0,0:04:53.18,0:04:55.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of genuine Christianity that come up Dialogue: 0,0:04:55.20,0:04:57.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all over the Scriptures. Dialogue: 0,0:04:57.58,0:05:00.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And yet, that's not the same thing. Dialogue: 0,0:05:00.28,0:05:03.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The proofs of what it means to be saved Dialogue: 0,0:05:03.02,0:05:06.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are not the same thing as being saved. Dialogue: 0,0:05:06.02,0:05:09.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he perhaps is not clear on that. Dialogue: 0,0:05:09.60,0:05:12.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"How was Jesus able to save him Dialogue: 0,0:05:12.94,0:05:15.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when we are clearly \Ninstructed to live right Dialogue: 0,0:05:15.61,0:05:17.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and to turn from sin? Dialogue: 0,0:05:17.87,0:05:20.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,As I understand it, he was \Nthe only one in Scripture Dialogue: 0,0:05:20.35,0:05:21.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who had this deathbed salvation, Dialogue: 0,0:05:21.88,0:05:23.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so we can't rely on that. Dialogue: 0,0:05:23.57,0:05:25.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But you know what I mean." Dialogue: 0,0:05:25.05,0:05:27.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now, actually I don't know what he means. Dialogue: 0,0:05:27.27,0:05:29.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean, I understand what he's saying, Dialogue: 0,0:05:29.72,0:05:34.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I think he's implying there Dialogue: 0,0:05:34.93,0:05:37.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that you know what I mean \Nand would agree with me Dialogue: 0,0:05:37.77,0:05:39.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that we can't rely on that. Dialogue: 0,0:05:39.31,0:05:42.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But I would not go down that path. Dialogue: 0,0:05:42.26,0:05:44.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We certainly can rely - Dialogue: 0,0:05:44.98,0:05:50.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,any example in Scripture \Nwhere somebody is converted, Dialogue: 0,0:05:50.37,0:05:54.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,obviously we can rely on that. Dialogue: 0,0:05:54.78,0:05:56.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So what do you say? Dialogue: 0,0:05:56.21,0:05:57.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(from the room) Dialogue: 0,0:05:57.10,0:06:02.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So he said that he hadn't repented? Dialogue: 0,0:06:02.79,0:06:06.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But here it sounds like he was repenting? Dialogue: 0,0:06:06.29,0:06:08.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Maybe I'm misunderstanding \Nwhat he's saying. Dialogue: 0,0:06:08.53,0:06:12.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,No, you were understanding exactly right. Dialogue: 0,0:06:12.11,0:06:16.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You're saying that he has mentioned here Dialogue: 0,0:06:16.64,0:06:20.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that there's no evidence \Nthat this thief repented. Dialogue: 0,0:06:20.65,0:06:25.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But he doesn't really \Nquote the account at all. Dialogue: 0,0:06:25.67,0:06:28.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He doesn't make any \Nreference to the account Dialogue: 0,0:06:28.10,0:06:30.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,other than the fact that it happened. Dialogue: 0,0:06:30.87,0:06:32.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yes, you're exactly right. Dialogue: 0,0:06:32.88,0:06:38.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Let's just look at the text. Dialogue: 0,0:06:38.49,0:06:41.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The proofs of repentance, Dialogue: 0,0:06:41.83,0:06:45.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the proofs of salvation are here. Dialogue: 0,0:06:45.75,0:06:47.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They're here in the text. Dialogue: 0,0:06:47.81,0:06:51.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But I don't think that \Nthat's the biggest issue. Dialogue: 0,0:06:51.06,0:06:55.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The biggest issue is this: Dialogue: 0,0:06:55.40,0:06:58.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he says, "he did not live right, Dialogue: 0,0:06:58.86,0:07:01.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,yet Jesus saved him anyway." Dialogue: 0,0:07:01.62,0:07:04.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What's his assumption? Dialogue: 0,0:07:04.05,0:07:06.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(unintelligible) Dialogue: 0,0:07:06.67,0:07:08.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,God saves those who live right. Dialogue: 0,0:07:08.60,0:07:12.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,One of the greatest texts in my opinion Dialogue: 0,0:07:12.57,0:07:16.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,concerning the glory of the Gospel Dialogue: 0,0:07:16.44,0:07:20.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is found in Romans 4:5. Dialogue: 0,0:07:20.44,0:07:21.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Let's look at it, Dialogue: 0,0:07:21.58,0:07:29.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because it just so brings \Nto light the reality. Dialogue: 0,0:07:29.32,0:07:31.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it really says that the statement Dialogue: 0,0:07:31.40,0:07:34.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that he makes here is diametrically Dialogue: 0,0:07:34.95,0:07:37.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,wrong and opposed to \Nwhat the Gospel teaches. Dialogue: 0,0:07:37.71,0:07:40.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If we go to Romans - Dialogue: 0,0:07:40.38,0:07:42.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,do you want a Bible? Dialogue: 0,0:07:42.28,0:07:43.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Okay. Dialogue: 0,0:07:43.58,0:07:45.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Do you have a photographic memory? Dialogue: 0,0:07:45.88,0:07:47.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(unintelligible) Dialogue: 0,0:07:47.78,0:07:49.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's no problem at all. Dialogue: 0,0:07:49.89,0:07:51.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you want one just shout, Dialogue: 0,0:07:51.49,0:07:53.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we'll dig one up for you. Dialogue: 0,0:07:53.71,0:08:01.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But in Romans 4:5 Dialogue: 0,0:08:01.50,0:08:05.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we have this statement: Dialogue: 0,0:08:05.02,0:08:06.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(I'm going to start reading in v. 4). Dialogue: 0,0:08:06.92,0:08:10.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Now to the one who works..." Dialogue: 0,0:08:10.33,0:08:13.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The idea here is a person who is working; Dialogue: 0,0:08:13.72,0:08:15.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a person who in their own effort Dialogue: 0,0:08:15.73,0:08:21.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is trying to gain favor with God. Dialogue: 0,0:08:21.47,0:08:26.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"...His wages are not counted as a gift." Dialogue: 0,0:08:26.45,0:08:29.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In other words, if you \Nwork to get to Heaven, Dialogue: 0,0:08:29.51,0:08:34.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you merited it if it were possible. Dialogue: 0,0:08:34.100,0:08:36.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's a wage. Dialogue: 0,0:08:36.84,0:08:40.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You basically were good Dialogue: 0,0:08:40.32,0:08:42.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you earned something. Dialogue: 0,0:08:42.40,0:08:46.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's the idea. That's \Nwhat he's teaching there. Dialogue: 0,0:08:46.08,0:08:48.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"His wages are not counted as a gift, Dialogue: 0,0:08:48.40,0:08:50.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but as his due. Dialogue: 0,0:08:50.98,0:08:55.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And to the one who does not work Dialogue: 0,0:08:55.23,0:09:00.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but believes in Him who \Njustifies the ungodly, Dialogue: 0,0:09:00.20,0:09:03.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,his faith is counted as righteousness." Dialogue: 0,0:09:03.69,0:09:07.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So on the one hand, you \Nhave the person that works. Dialogue: 0,0:09:07.91,0:09:09.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He gets a wage. Dialogue: 0,0:09:09.92,0:09:12.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The wage is his due. Dialogue: 0,0:09:12.04,0:09:15.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's over against the \Nperson who doesn't work, Dialogue: 0,0:09:15.75,0:09:18.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but he believes in the God Dialogue: 0,0:09:18.100,0:09:21.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who justifies the ungodly. Dialogue: 0,0:09:21.89,0:09:25.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,To justify is a legal term. Dialogue: 0,0:09:25.06,0:09:28.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He's declared righteous. Dialogue: 0,0:09:28.57,0:09:30.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The truth that we find Dialogue: 0,0:09:30.57,0:09:34.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is that God saves the ungodly Dialogue: 0,0:09:34.21,0:09:38.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by pronouncing ungodly people righteous. Dialogue: 0,0:09:38.70,0:09:44.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This happens through \Nfaith in Jesus Christ. Dialogue: 0,0:09:44.51,0:09:50.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What did the thief on the cross do? Dialogue: 0,0:09:50.76,0:09:55.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He was justified by faith. Dialogue: 0,0:09:55.21,0:09:59.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He was saved not because \Nof his own merits. Dialogue: 0,0:09:59.84,0:10:03.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,God justifies the ungodly. Dialogue: 0,0:10:03.08,0:10:05.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Was the guy ungodly? Yes. Dialogue: 0,0:10:05.01,0:10:05.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He was a thief. Dialogue: 0,0:10:05.88,0:10:08.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He was dying for his crimes. Dialogue: 0,0:10:08.36,0:10:10.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The proof of his repentance; Dialogue: 0,0:10:10.48,0:10:15.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the proof that something was genuine here Dialogue: 0,0:10:15.13,0:10:18.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,would be demonstrated in what? Dialogue: 0,0:10:18.19,0:10:19.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(from the room) Dialogue: 0,0:10:19.21,0:10:21.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"We're getting what we justly deserve." Dialogue: 0,0:10:21.46,0:10:22.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Tim: That's one thing. Dialogue: 0,0:10:22.87,0:10:25.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Admitting your sin. Dialogue: 0,0:10:25.59,0:10:27.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's a good indication. Dialogue: 0,0:10:27.48,0:10:29.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Remember what repentance is. Dialogue: 0,0:10:29.86,0:10:34.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Repentance is - the "repent" in English Dialogue: 0,0:10:34.21,0:10:35.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is to think again. Dialogue: 0,0:10:35.57,0:10:38.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Or, from the Greek term, Dialogue: 0,0:10:38.29,0:10:41.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we get this idea of an afterthought Dialogue: 0,0:10:41.40,0:10:44.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or to change one's mind. Dialogue: 0,0:10:44.39,0:10:47.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The idea is he changed \Nhis mind about himself. Dialogue: 0,0:10:47.27,0:10:49.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The other guy was justifying himself. Dialogue: 0,0:10:49.18,0:10:51.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(incomplete thought) Dialogue: 0,0:10:51.61,0:10:54.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The other guy was mocking. Dialogue: 0,0:10:54.65,0:10:56.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This man was admitting. Dialogue: 0,0:10:56.80,0:10:58.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He had a change of mind. Dialogue: 0,0:10:58.94,0:11:01.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,His mind had been changed to recognize Dialogue: 0,0:11:01.03,0:11:02.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he was a sinner, Dialogue: 0,0:11:02.59,0:11:05.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that he deserved what he was getting. Dialogue: 0,0:11:05.81,0:11:08.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Not only did his mind \Nchange about himself, Dialogue: 0,0:11:08.34,0:11:10.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who else did his mind change about? Dialogue: 0,0:11:10.67,0:11:13.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(from the room) Christ. Dialogue: 0,0:11:13.18,0:11:15.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Tim: What are two things Dialogue: 0,0:11:15.33,0:11:17.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he recognized about Christ? Dialogue: 0,0:11:17.68,0:11:18.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(from the room) Dialogue: 0,0:11:18.57,0:11:20.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He said, "Do you not fear God?" Dialogue: 0,0:11:20.90,0:11:22.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I'm thinking wow, he knows Dialogue: 0,0:11:22.85,0:11:26.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,something is going on here. Dialogue: 0,0:11:26.11,0:11:28.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Tim: I would bring that back more Dialogue: 0,0:11:28.91,0:11:32.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to a proper evaluation of himself. Dialogue: 0,0:11:32.08,0:11:33.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He's a sinner. Dialogue: 0,0:11:33.54,0:11:35.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's a reason to fear God Dialogue: 0,0:11:35.26,0:11:38.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because he's headed towards trouble. Dialogue: 0,0:11:38.52,0:11:41.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But what are the two things \Nabout Christ that he recognizes? Dialogue: 0,0:11:41.45,0:11:43.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,James: He believes Christ is perfect. Dialogue: 0,0:11:43.30,0:11:46.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Tim: Yes, he believed He did not have sin Dialogue: 0,0:11:46.15,0:11:49.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and he believed He had a kingdom. Dialogue: 0,0:11:49.77,0:11:54.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He's asking Him to remember him. Dialogue: 0,0:11:54.53,0:11:56.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He's looking for salvation. Dialogue: 0,0:11:56.15,0:12:01.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He's asking. Dialogue: 0,0:12:01.04,0:12:04.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So would you say \Nanything else to this guy? Dialogue: 0,0:12:04.09,0:12:06.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,James: Just a quick question. Dialogue: 0,0:12:06.07,0:12:09.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In Matthew it mentions \Nthe robbers (plural) Dialogue: 0,0:12:09.54,0:12:10.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,were mocking Him. Dialogue: 0,0:12:10.86,0:12:12.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So is it your understanding that Dialogue: 0,0:12:12.57,0:12:14.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this man's change of mind... Dialogue: 0,0:12:14.83,0:12:18.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Tim: Yes, I would say his change of mind Dialogue: 0,0:12:18.29,0:12:20.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,happened on the cross. Dialogue: 0,0:12:20.41,0:12:21.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He repented on the cross. Dialogue: 0,0:12:21.92,0:12:23.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He came to faith on the cross. Dialogue: 0,0:12:23.88,0:12:26.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,James: So what would you say led to that? Dialogue: 0,0:12:26.49,0:12:28.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean, we know the \Nsupernatural power of God, Dialogue: 0,0:12:28.93,0:12:31.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but was there the sayings of Christ? Dialogue: 0,0:12:31.95,0:12:35.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Tim: We don't see anything \Nmore than we're told. Dialogue: 0,0:12:35.97,0:12:38.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean, yes, I think there's \Nevery reason to believe Dialogue: 0,0:12:38.51,0:12:39.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from the parallel accounts Dialogue: 0,0:12:39.84,0:12:41.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that in the beginning he was mocking, Dialogue: 0,0:12:41.97,0:12:44.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but something began to happen. Dialogue: 0,0:12:44.16,0:12:51.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He was observing something. Dialogue: 0,0:12:51.56,0:12:54.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Anybody know what things were said? Dialogue: 0,0:12:54.11,0:12:55.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(from the room) Dialogue: 0,0:12:55.20,0:12:56.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you are the Son of God, Dialogue: 0,0:12:56.65,0:12:57.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,come down from the cross Dialogue: 0,0:12:57.83,0:13:00.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we'll believe in You. Dialogue: 0,0:13:00.18,0:13:05.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Tim: I'm talking about the things that \Nwere said by Christ Himself. Dialogue: 0,0:13:05.05,0:13:09.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What would this thief have heard said? Dialogue: 0,0:13:09.04,0:13:10.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(from the room): Forgive them. Dialogue: 0,0:13:10.51,0:13:13.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Tim: Forgive them. \NThey know not what they do. Dialogue: 0,0:13:13.69,0:13:16.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What else would he have seen? Dialogue: 0,0:13:16.64,0:13:18.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,James: It's interesting how they were Dialogue: 0,0:13:18.40,0:13:19.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just mocking Christ, Dialogue: 0,0:13:19.53,0:13:22.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and He didn't defend Himself in pride. Dialogue: 0,0:13:22.17,0:13:24.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So that man witnessed that. Dialogue: 0,0:13:24.59,0:13:26.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's not Christ saying something, Dialogue: 0,0:13:26.64,0:13:29.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but that speaks volumes to see Dialogue: 0,0:13:29.81,0:13:32.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,His response to this \Nreviling and everything. Dialogue: 0,0:13:32.84,0:13:33.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(from the room) Dialogue: 0,0:13:33.93,0:13:36.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They would have seen Christ Dialogue: 0,0:13:36.02,0:13:38.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,entrust His mother. Dialogue: 0,0:13:38.09,0:13:39.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Tim: Yes. Dialogue: 0,0:13:39.22,0:13:42.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He would have seen Jesus look down Dialogue: 0,0:13:42.31,0:13:46.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at John and His mother, and say, Dialogue: 0,0:13:46.67,0:13:53.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Behold your son; behold your mother." Dialogue: 0,0:13:53.40,0:13:57.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He says this: Dialogue: 0,0:13:57.14,0:13:59.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"As I understand it, he was the only one Dialogue: 0,0:13:59.21,0:14:01.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in Scripture who had this \Ndeathbed salvation, Dialogue: 0,0:14:01.99,0:14:04.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so we can't rely on that. Dialogue: 0,0:14:04.25,0:14:05.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But you know what I mean." Dialogue: 0,0:14:05.91,0:14:08.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But here's the thing, Dialogue: 0,0:14:08.42,0:14:13.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,every individual is saved how? Dialogue: 0,0:14:13.76,0:14:16.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What does Scripture say? Dialogue: 0,0:14:16.58,0:14:20.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Saved by grace through faith. Dialogue: 0,0:14:20.69,0:14:23.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We are justified by faith. Dialogue: 0,0:14:23.30,0:14:27.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Who is the father of the faith? Dialogue: 0,0:14:27.41,0:14:29.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean, again, let's go back Dialogue: 0,0:14:29.41,0:14:33.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to the argument in Romans 4. Dialogue: 0,0:14:33.79,0:14:36.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Abraham was justified by faith. Dialogue: 0,0:14:36.87,0:14:39.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And what we're told is righteousness Dialogue: 0,0:14:39.46,0:14:43.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was counted to him because of the faith. Dialogue: 0,0:14:43.04,0:14:45.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it's not counted to him only. Dialogue: 0,0:14:45.69,0:14:48.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And all of this is not \Ndone simply for his sake. Dialogue: 0,0:14:48.81,0:14:52.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And in fact, we're told \Nthat this happened, Dialogue: 0,0:14:52.61,0:14:55.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that Abraham believed God Dialogue: 0,0:14:55.13,0:14:57.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it was counted to \Nhim for righteousness Dialogue: 0,0:14:57.42,0:14:59.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,before he was circumcised Dialogue: 0,0:14:59.44,0:15:03.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in order that he might be \Nthe father of the faithful Dialogue: 0,0:15:03.50,0:15:07.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,whether they're circumcised \Nor not circumcised. Dialogue: 0,0:15:07.05,0:15:09.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(incomplete thought) Dialogue: 0,0:15:09.38,0:15:13.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You go to Hebrews 11. Dialogue: 0,0:15:13.45,0:15:15.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,By faith... Abel. Dialogue: 0,0:15:15.63,0:15:19.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,All the way back to the very first person Dialogue: 0,0:15:19.14,0:15:23.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who was a genuine child of God. Dialogue: 0,0:15:23.39,0:15:25.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was by faith. It's \Nalways been by faith. Dialogue: 0,0:15:25.84,0:15:27.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so I wouldn't agree Dialogue: 0,0:15:27.77,0:15:29.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that we can't rely on this. Dialogue: 0,0:15:29.95,0:15:33.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What we would say is that every account Dialogue: 0,0:15:33.47,0:15:36.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in Scripture where somebody was converted, Dialogue: 0,0:15:36.25,0:15:39.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we can rely on. Dialogue: 0,0:15:39.57,0:15:42.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The reality is we're saved by faith. Dialogue: 0,0:15:42.85,0:15:47.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think where Sam is having the problem Dialogue: 0,0:15:47.35,0:15:53.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is that the length of time Dialogue: 0,0:15:53.31,0:15:55.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,didn't exist. Dialogue: 0,0:15:55.08,0:15:59.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So he's having trouble understanding how Dialogue: 0,0:15:59.44,0:16:03.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if that life is not demonstrated, Dialogue: 0,0:16:03.52,0:16:05.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how could he actually be saved? Dialogue: 0,0:16:05.82,0:16:07.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But that's actually a wrong understanding Dialogue: 0,0:16:07.100,0:16:10.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of what it is to be saved. Dialogue: 0,0:16:10.70,0:16:15.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We're saved in a legal fashion. Dialogue: 0,0:16:15.78,0:16:17.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Declared righteous. Dialogue: 0,0:16:17.39,0:16:19.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Counted righteous. Dialogue: 0,0:16:19.01,0:16:21.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The unjust, the ungodly, Dialogue: 0,0:16:21.93,0:16:24.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,wicked people, bad people, Dialogue: 0,0:16:24.78,0:16:29.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sinners are counted righteous Dialogue: 0,0:16:29.80,0:16:32.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in a moment in the courtroom of God Dialogue: 0,0:16:32.97,0:16:36.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when faith is exercised in Jesus Christ Dialogue: 0,0:16:36.23,0:16:38.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,dying on that cross; Dialogue: 0,0:16:38.06,0:16:41.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in Jesus being that Savior, Dialogue: 0,0:16:41.13,0:16:43.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and looking to Him and trusting Him; Dialogue: 0,0:16:43.57,0:16:46.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,trusting in His merits, \Ntrusting Him to save. Dialogue: 0,0:16:46.35,0:16:47.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's what this man did. Dialogue: 0,0:16:47.96,0:16:49.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(incomplete thought) Dialogue: 0,0:16:49.39,0:16:53.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean, that "remember me" - Dialogue: 0,0:16:53.42,0:16:58.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he's talking to the only \NOne that can save him. Dialogue: 0,0:16:58.10,0:17:00.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And isn't it amazing? Dialogue: 0,0:17:00.65,0:17:05.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What did he hear that \Nhe's actually thinking Dialogue: 0,0:17:05.32,0:17:10.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that Christ is going to enter a kingdom? Dialogue: 0,0:17:10.78,0:17:13.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Remember me when You \Ncome into Your kingdom? Dialogue: 0,0:17:13.14,0:17:14.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I wonder what he even thought Dialogue: 0,0:17:14.88,0:17:18.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when he said that? Dialogue: 0,0:17:18.03,0:17:19.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Isn't that interesting? Dialogue: 0,0:17:19.38,0:17:24.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Here you have Christ dying Dialogue: 0,0:17:24.09,0:17:26.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,seemingly defeated. Dialogue: 0,0:17:26.66,0:17:29.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's what those down \Non the ground were thinking. Dialogue: 0,0:17:29.67,0:17:32.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's what the other thief was thinking. Dialogue: 0,0:17:32.18,0:17:35.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's what the two on \Nthe road to Emmaus - Dialogue: 0,0:17:35.02,0:17:37.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,even His disciples were thinking. Dialogue: 0,0:17:37.20,0:17:39.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We thought it was Him, \Nbut it can't be Him, Dialogue: 0,0:17:39.40,0:17:40.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because they killed Him! Dialogue: 0,0:17:40.72,0:17:42.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They crucified Him. Dialogue: 0,0:17:42.64,0:17:44.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And you remember, this \Nwas after Jesus came forth Dialogue: 0,0:17:44.99,0:17:46.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and He's walking with these guys. Dialogue: 0,0:17:46.97,0:17:49.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Haven't You heard all these \Nthings that are happening?" Dialogue: 0,0:17:49.69,0:17:51.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What things are happening? Dialogue: 0,0:17:51.02,0:17:52.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Well, we thought He was the Christ. Dialogue: 0,0:17:52.76,0:17:55.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We thought He was the Savior. Dialogue: 0,0:17:55.38,0:17:57.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But He's not." Dialogue: 0,0:17:57.88,0:18:02.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Why would they think that He wasn't? Dialogue: 0,0:18:02.65,0:18:05.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, because He died. Dialogue: 0,0:18:05.41,0:18:07.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Isn't that amazing? Dialogue: 0,0:18:07.40,0:18:09.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This guy is being put to death Dialogue: 0,0:18:09.38,0:18:10.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,right next to Him. Dialogue: 0,0:18:10.78,0:18:12.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He's dying on the cross. Dialogue: 0,0:18:12.45,0:18:14.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,His life is ebbing away Dialogue: 0,0:18:14.44,0:18:18.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,though He gave up His life Dialogue: 0,0:18:18.29,0:18:20.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of His own accord. Dialogue: 0,0:18:20.03,0:18:22.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But He's over here dying on this cross. Dialogue: 0,0:18:22.52,0:18:23.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He's over here bleeding. Dialogue: 0,0:18:23.80,0:18:25.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He's over here suffering, Dialogue: 0,0:18:25.76,0:18:28.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,obviously going to die. Dialogue: 0,0:18:28.14,0:18:31.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And this man has the faith to believe Dialogue: 0,0:18:31.71,0:18:34.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that somewhere in all \Nof this there's triumph. Dialogue: 0,0:18:34.86,0:18:36.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's a kingdom. Dialogue: 0,0:18:36.40,0:18:40.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That Christ is actually the Jewish king. Dialogue: 0,0:18:40.76,0:18:45.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's what Pilate put up there. Dialogue: 0,0:18:45.85,0:18:49.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The king! What did he put? Dialogue: 0,0:18:49.86,0:18:52.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is the King of the Jews. Dialogue: 0,0:18:52.77,0:18:55.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he believed that. Dialogue: 0,0:18:55.81,0:18:57.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that's what faith is. Dialogue: 0,0:18:57.89,0:19:01.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We live by faith, not by sight. Dialogue: 0,0:19:01.16,0:19:04.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you're talking about sight, Dialogue: 0,0:19:04.13,0:19:05.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,yeah, you'd talk like the other guy. Dialogue: 0,0:19:05.90,0:19:09.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You'd tell Him, "You're the Christ.\NWhy aren't You saving Yourself? Dialogue: 0,0:19:09.23,0:19:11.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What's this all about?\NWhy aren't You saving us? Dialogue: 0,0:19:11.52,0:19:14.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Come down if You're the Christ." Dialogue: 0,0:19:14.07,0:19:15.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The whole thing looks hopeless Dialogue: 0,0:19:15.98,0:19:17.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from man's point of view. Dialogue: 0,0:19:17.51,0:19:18.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He's dead! Dialogue: 0,0:19:18.50,0:19:19.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They're killing our King? Dialogue: 0,0:19:19.87,0:19:21.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What's this? This is the One we hoped... Dialogue: 0,0:19:21.90,0:19:22.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and now? Dialogue: 0,0:19:22.80,0:19:25.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We thought He was going to usher\Nin a Kingdom and He's dying. Dialogue: 0,0:19:25.26,0:19:27.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This thing's looking pretty \Nhopeless right now. Dialogue: 0,0:19:27.47,0:19:31.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And yet, in the midst of all of it - Dialogue: 0,0:19:31.02,0:19:32.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you've got to remember, Dialogue: 0,0:19:32.92,0:19:36.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he's not sitting there \Nlike you're sitting there. Dialogue: 0,0:19:36.40,0:19:39.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He's hanging on spikes. Dialogue: 0,0:19:39.39,0:19:43.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,His own life is ebbing away. Dialogue: 0,0:19:43.28,0:19:45.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And somehow in the midst of all that, Dialogue: 0,0:19:45.48,0:19:47.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where he was mocking in the beginning Dialogue: 0,0:19:47.53,0:19:49.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it seems, Dialogue: 0,0:19:49.33,0:19:53.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and now there's been this turn. Dialogue: 0,0:19:53.61,0:19:56.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We don't know exactly all the mechanism Dialogue: 0,0:19:56.78,0:19:59.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that God used to bring this change about, Dialogue: 0,0:19:59.96,0:20:02.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but we know this - Dialogue: 0,0:20:02.45,0:20:04.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know what happened Dialogue: 0,0:20:04.80,0:20:09.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when the disciples recognized Dialogue: 0,0:20:09.78,0:20:14.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that the Gospel had gone to the Gentiles? Dialogue: 0,0:20:14.87,0:20:17.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You remember how they phrased it? Dialogue: 0,0:20:17.48,0:20:20.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That God has also granted repentance Dialogue: 0,0:20:20.38,0:20:21.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to the Gentiles. Dialogue: 0,0:20:21.44,0:20:23.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Repentance is granted. Dialogue: 0,0:20:23.76,0:20:25.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Repentance is something God gives. Dialogue: 0,0:20:25.77,0:20:28.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's something the Spirit \Nof God works in people. Dialogue: 0,0:20:28.60,0:20:31.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So definitely God was at work Dialogue: 0,0:20:31.01,0:20:39.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,bringing faith. Dialogue: 0,0:20:39.16,0:20:44.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's the miracle of salvation. Dialogue: 0,0:20:44.51,0:20:48.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,God saves in a moment. Dialogue: 0,0:20:48.24,0:20:52.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(incomplete thought) Dialogue: 0,0:20:52.61,0:20:53.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What's the order? Dialogue: 0,0:20:53.86,0:20:59.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That came up down in Mexico - the order. Dialogue: 0,0:20:59.08,0:21:02.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(incomplete thought) Dialogue: 0,0:21:02.04,0:21:06.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What we find is that God calls Dialogue: 0,0:21:06.24,0:21:07.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then God justifies Dialogue: 0,0:21:07.59,0:21:08.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then God glorifies. Dialogue: 0,0:21:08.93,0:21:10.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That seems to be the order. Dialogue: 0,0:21:10.36,0:21:14.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,To foreknow, to predestine, to call. Dialogue: 0,0:21:14.11,0:21:18.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's what we have there in Romans 8. Dialogue: 0,0:21:18.30,0:21:20.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's a call. There's an effectual call Dialogue: 0,0:21:20.75,0:21:23.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the sinner hears it. Dialogue: 0,0:21:23.12,0:21:24.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Jesus said, "You can't come unto Me Dialogue: 0,0:21:24.98,0:21:28.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,unless My Father who \Nhas sent Me draws you." Dialogue: 0,0:21:28.22,0:21:30.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And there's this draw and this call, Dialogue: 0,0:21:30.58,0:21:33.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,much like Lazarus: "Come forth!" Dialogue: 0,0:21:33.02,0:21:34.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he came forth from the grave. Dialogue: 0,0:21:34.76,0:21:38.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's power in that call Dialogue: 0,0:21:38.39,0:21:39.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to raise from the dead. Dialogue: 0,0:21:39.97,0:21:41.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then the sinner responds Dialogue: 0,0:21:41.94,0:21:47.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in repentance and faith. Dialogue: 0,0:21:47.26,0:21:49.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But I think Sam's big problem Dialogue: 0,0:21:49.58,0:21:56.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is that he's very much confusing Dialogue: 0,0:21:56.40,0:22:02.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,salvation and what \Nproves that we're saved. Dialogue: 0,0:22:02.80,0:22:05.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because the reality is this: Dialogue: 0,0:22:05.18,0:22:07.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the fruit - it looks good, right? Dialogue: 0,0:22:07.68,0:22:09.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Even in that account, Dialogue: 0,0:22:09.12,0:22:10.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,even though it wasn't given Dialogue: 0,0:22:10.95,0:22:12.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,lots of time to develop. Dialogue: 0,0:22:12.73,0:22:14.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The fruit looks good already Dialogue: 0,0:22:14.43,0:22:16.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just in those few moments. Dialogue: 0,0:22:16.30,0:22:19.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And undoubtedly if he \Nwas allowed to live a life, Dialogue: 0,0:22:19.63,0:22:22.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then the reality of \Nthe fruit of the Spirit Dialogue: 0,0:22:22.39,0:22:24.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,would have all the more blossomed Dialogue: 0,0:22:24.82,0:22:32.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and taken maturity in his life. Dialogue: 0,0:22:32.87,0:22:35.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Anything else on that one? Dialogue: 0,0:22:35.45,0:22:36.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(from the room) Dialogue: 0,0:22:36.20,0:22:37.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have a question. Dialogue: 0,0:22:37.98,0:22:40.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Does the parable of the manager Dialogue: 0,0:22:40.58,0:22:43.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,paying his employees equally Dialogue: 0,0:22:43.51,0:22:46.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just by their hours worked, Dialogue: 0,0:22:46.05,0:22:49.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,does that apply at all here? Dialogue: 0,0:22:49.16,0:22:55.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,As far as the timeline of \Nthis man being saved? Dialogue: 0,0:22:55.09,0:22:58.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Tim: Well, actually, Dialogue: 0,0:22:58.97,0:23:02.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the parable you're talking about Dialogue: 0,0:23:02.14,0:23:04.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,would be a great portion of Scripture Dialogue: 0,0:23:04.32,0:23:06.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to take him to. Dialogue: 0,0:23:06.61,0:23:10.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The truth is that... Dialogue: 0,0:23:10.71,0:23:15.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(I've got a mouth full of coffee grounds). Dialogue: 0,0:23:15.44,0:23:18.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The truth is those who are saved Dialogue: 0,0:23:18.45,0:23:22.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,early in the day - at a young age - Dialogue: 0,0:23:22.83,0:23:26.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the picture, the parable is Dialogue: 0,0:23:26.32,0:23:29.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the Master calling workers \Nout to the vineyard. Dialogue: 0,0:23:29.38,0:23:31.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And some get called early in the day Dialogue: 0,0:23:31.61,0:23:34.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and some get called \Nright at the end of the day. Dialogue: 0,0:23:34.37,0:23:36.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And yet at the end, Dialogue: 0,0:23:36.06,0:23:40.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they're all given a denarius. Dialogue: 0,0:23:40.00,0:23:43.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And those who work the entire day Dialogue: 0,0:23:43.45,0:23:44.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are looking and thinking Dialogue: 0,0:23:44.76,0:23:46.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that they should get more, Dialogue: 0,0:23:46.69,0:23:49.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but actually it's the same. Dialogue: 0,0:23:49.97,0:23:52.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It seems to indicate what? Dialogue: 0,0:23:52.13,0:23:56.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(from the room) Dialogue: 0,0:23:56.43,0:23:57.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Entitlement? Dialogue: 0,0:23:57.89,0:23:59.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Jealousy? Dialogue: 0,0:23:59.80,0:24:04.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You've got the parable \Nof the prodigal son. Dialogue: 0,0:24:04.30,0:24:08.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,His brother refused to \Ncome in to the banquet Dialogue: 0,0:24:08.44,0:24:11.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because he'd stayed there \Nand worked all his life. Dialogue: 0,0:24:11.42,0:24:14.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And his brother went out Dialogue: 0,0:24:14.12,0:24:15.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and did all this stuff. Dialogue: 0,0:24:15.78,0:24:21.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the elder brother was there at home Dialogue: 0,0:24:21.35,0:24:23.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the whole time Dialogue: 0,0:24:23.08,0:24:25.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and he was jealous, Dialogue: 0,0:24:25.65,0:24:28.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is a picture of the Pharisees. Dialogue: 0,0:24:28.42,0:24:30.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They were jealous. Dialogue: 0,0:24:30.44,0:24:34.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Tim: So you have this prodigal son. Dialogue: 0,0:24:34.71,0:24:37.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we could say there really \Nwasn't much time to do anything. Dialogue: 0,0:24:37.70,0:24:40.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The father ran out and \Nthrew his arms around him Dialogue: 0,0:24:40.80,0:24:42.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and killed the fatted calf. Dialogue: 0,0:24:42.80,0:24:46.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But the reality is the same thing Dialogue: 0,0:24:46.34,0:24:49.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was demonstrated in the prodigal son Dialogue: 0,0:24:49.34,0:24:52.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that we see demonstrated \Nin the thief on the cross. Dialogue: 0,0:24:52.29,0:24:53.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What was that? Dialogue: 0,0:24:53.30,0:24:56.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's suddenly a change in the thinking. Dialogue: 0,0:24:56.38,0:24:57.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A person comes to himself. Dialogue: 0,0:24:57.80,0:24:59.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A person reconsiders. Dialogue: 0,0:24:59.21,0:25:02.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A person suddenly recognizes: Dialogue: 0,0:25:02.80,0:25:05.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm not in a good place Dialogue: 0,0:25:05.73,0:25:08.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and there's a turning towards home. Dialogue: 0,0:25:08.29,0:25:10.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What you have is this guy Dialogue: 0,0:25:10.19,0:25:11.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,hanging on the cross, Dialogue: 0,0:25:11.58,0:25:13.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he turns to Christ. Dialogue: 0,0:25:13.79,0:25:17.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,His hope is there. Dialogue: 0,0:25:17.88,0:25:20.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, okay, we're going to move on Dialogue: 0,0:25:20.84,0:25:22.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to the next one.