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Dialogue: 0,0:00:01.90,0:00:05.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Welcome to the Brigham Young\NUniversity Family History
Dialogue: 0,0:00:05.17,0:00:08.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Library Webinar Series.\NMy name is Sean Firmage.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:08.37,0:00:10.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I will be your host \Nfor this webinar.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:10.22,0:00:14.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Today we will be pleased to hear \Nfrom Kathryn Grant, who will be
Dialogue: 0,0:00:14.06,0:00:17.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,giving a presentation titled,\N"What every Family Tree User
Dialogue: 0,0:00:17.60,0:00:20.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,should know about \Nname-finding apps.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:20.100,0:00:23.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,After years on the sidelines, \NKathryn started doing
Dialogue: 0,0:00:23.48,0:00:27.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,family history and discovered to her \Nsurprise that she loved it.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:27.51,0:00:30.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Her specialty is mentoring \Nnew family historians and
Dialogue: 0,0:00:30.23,0:00:32.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,helping them find success,\Nand maybe even avoid
Dialogue: 0,0:00:32.70,0:00:35.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,some of the mistakes\Nthat she's made.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:35.28,0:00:39.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Kathryn teaches Sunday classes \Nat the BYU Family History Library.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:39.00,0:00:41.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She also presents at \NRiverton Saturday Seminars
Dialogue: 0,0:00:41.99,0:00:43.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and other family \Nhistory events.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:43.87,0:00:46.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Her column on family history \Nran in the Nauvoo Times
Dialogue: 0,0:00:46.74,0:00:49.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for about a year and is still \Navailable online.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:49.47,0:00:52.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Kathryn works for the LDS Church \Nas a technical writer,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:52.45,0:00:57.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with a focus on usability \Nand process improvement.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:57.20,0:01:01.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Besides family history, \Nshe loves uplifting music,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:01.27,0:01:05.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,thought-provoking books \Nand spring lilacs.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:05.22,0:01:08.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Kathryn, we’ll turn \Nthe time over to you.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:08.58,0:01:20.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Kathryn) Great! Shaun, \Nthank you so much.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:20.64,0:01:25.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Hi everybody and welcome \Nto our webinar today.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:25.02,0:01:28.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,As we’ve seen, technology has \Nits blessings and challenges
Dialogue: 0,0:01:28.81,0:01:32.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we appreciate your patience \Nas we’ve gotten started with this.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:32.54,0:01:38.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Today’s webinar is about a very \Nimportant topic that has become
Dialogue: 0,0:01:38.26,0:01:43.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of interest to people with the \Nmany name-finding apps
Dialogue: 0,0:01:43.25,0:01:46.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,being made available \Nto Family Tree users.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:46.42,0:01:52.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Maybe you have had a friend \Napproach you and say something like,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:52.43,0:01:55.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,“Hey! Have you tried \Nsuch-and-such an app?
Dialogue: 0,0:01:55.73,0:01:58.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It’s amazing! \NIn a matter of minutes,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:58.22,0:02:01.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I found over a hundred names \Nfor temple work!”
Dialogue: 0,0:02:01.93,0:02:04.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Name-finding apps have become\Npopular in the last few years
Dialogue: 0,0:02:04.83,0:02:09.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for doing family history, \Nbut they’re also widely
Dialogue: 0,0:02:09.44,0:02:12.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,misunderstood \Nand even misused.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:12.44,0:02:16.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that misuse has some \Nunexpected consequences.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:16.10,0:02:19.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Today I’m hoping that we can shed\Nsome light on those consequences
Dialogue: 0,0:02:19.91,0:02:23.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and talk about how \Nto avoid them.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:23.36,0:02:28.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I hope this webinar will be of help \Nto three main audiences.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:28.14,0:02:37.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The first is for people \Nwho are using the apps
Dialogue: 0,0:02:37.39,0:02:40.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or may be considering \Nusing the apps.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:40.86,0:02:43.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The second audience \Nis for consultants
Dialogue: 0,0:02:43.36,0:02:45.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who help others \Nto find family names.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:45.86,0:02:49.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then finally, \Ndevelopers of name-finding apps
Dialogue: 0,0:02:49.39,0:02:55.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or those who may be considering \Ndeveloping a name-finding app.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:55.27,0:02:59.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Here's a short overview of what \Nwe’re going to be talking about.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:59.54,0:03:02.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,First of all, we’re going to get \Non the same page as far as what
Dialogue: 0,0:03:02.75,0:03:05.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we’re talking about \Nin this particular webinar
Dialogue: 0,0:03:05.83,0:03:09.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when we say \N“name-finding apps.”
Dialogue: 0,0:03:09.29,0:03:12.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then we’re going to talk about \Nsome common misconceptions
Dialogue: 0,0:03:12.06,0:03:15.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that people have about \Nname-finding apps.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:15.63,0:03:20.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then we’ll look at some \Nunintended consequences.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:20.06,0:03:23.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And finally, we’ll look \Nat an alternative approach.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:23.80,0:03:25.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So let’s go ahead \Nand dive in.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:25.79,0:03:31.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What do we mean in this webinar \Nwhen we talk about name-finding apps?
Dialogue: 0,0:03:31.29,0:03:35.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Basically we’re talking about apps \Nthat crawl FamilySearch Family Tree
Dialogue: 0,0:03:35.54,0:03:38.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to find names with \Ngreen temples.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:38.26,0:03:42.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Why is there such an appeal \Nfor name-finding apps?
Dialogue: 0,0:03:42.81,0:03:45.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I am guessing if you \Njoined this webinar,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:45.14,0:03:48.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you’ve probably had more than one \Nfriend talk to you about their
Dialogue: 0,0:03:48.72,0:03:51.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,favorite name-finding app \Nand how much they love it.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:51.79,0:03:54.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, why do people love \Nthese apps so much?
Dialogue: 0,0:03:54.46,0:03:59.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, name-finding apps say that \Nthey will save you time,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:59.39,0:04:03.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that they will reduce the effort \Nrequired for family history,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:03.42,0:04:08.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that they will eliminate the tedium\N(and who doesn’t want that),
Dialogue: 0,0:04:08.26,0:04:13.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then finally, they promise to \Nmake family history fast and easy.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:13.34,0:04:18.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now, for a lot of us, especially \Nif we are just starting out,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:18.18,0:04:21.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,family history can seem like \Nkind of a black box
Dialogue: 0,0:04:21.30,0:04:25.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we hear people talk about \Nhow they spent years
Dialogue: 0,0:04:25.11,0:04:27.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,trying to break down \Na brick wall.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:27.03,0:04:29.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we might look at some \Ngenealogical problem
Dialogue: 0,0:04:29.67,0:04:31.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and just be completely \Nflummoxed.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:31.87,0:04:35.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What’s not to love about \Nan app that says
Dialogue: 0,0:04:35.60,0:04:38.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it’s going to take away \Nall those problems?
Dialogue: 0,0:04:38.21,0:04:44.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But there’s a little bit more to it, \Nso let’s look at some of the common
Dialogue: 0,0:04:44.08,0:04:49.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,misconceptions that happen when \Npeople use these apps.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:49.20,0:04:53.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It’s important to point out \Nthat people don’t promote
Dialogue: 0,0:04:53.37,0:04:55.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,these misconceptions \Non purpose.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:55.07,0:04:59.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In other words, no user \Nor developer, for that matter,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:59.26,0:05:02.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,says, “I think I’ll spread \Nsome misconceptions.”
Dialogue: 0,0:05:02.96,0:05:07.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When we have misconceptions, \None of the reasons we have them
Dialogue: 0,0:05:07.55,0:05:11.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is that we don’t know they’re \Nmisconceptions.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:11.54,0:05:14.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It’s been my experience \Nthat these misconceptions
Dialogue: 0,0:05:14.56,0:05:17.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,lead to using \Nname-finding apps
Dialogue: 0,0:05:17.97,0:05:22.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and using the apps tends to \Nreinforce the misconceptions.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:22.85,0:05:27.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Let’s look at a few \Nof those misconceptions.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:27.55,0:05:30.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,First of all there are \Nthree misconceptions
Dialogue: 0,0:05:30.06,0:05:32.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that tend to go \Nhand-in-hand.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:32.50,0:05:35.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The first is that the \NChurch is the entity
Dialogue: 0,0:05:35.62,0:05:38.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that provided the \Nnames in Family Tree.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:38.69,0:05:42.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If we think that, \Nit’s not a very far leap
Dialogue: 0,0:05:42.39,0:05:46.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to believe if the Church \Nprovided the names,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:46.41,0:05:48.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they must be verified\Nand ready for temple work.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:48.97,0:05:52.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It’s a logical conclusion, \Nright?
Dialogue: 0,0:05:52.26,0:05:55.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Finally, if we believe the Church\Nhas provide the names
Dialogue: 0,0:05:55.31,0:05:59.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they are ready for temple work, \Nit’s not too much of a stretch
Dialogue: 0,0:05:59.25,0:06:01.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to believe Family Tree \Nwas supposed to be
Dialogue: 0,0:06:01.76,0:06:04.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,an on-going source \Nof temple names.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:04.74,0:06:10.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Let’s take a look at the truth \Nabout each of these.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:10.63,0:06:13.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The first misconception\Nthat the Church provided
Dialogue: 0,0:06:13.05,0:06:17.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the names in Family \NTree is not true.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:17.23,0:06:22.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Where the names came from was\Nusers, interestingly enough.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:22.38,0:06:25.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that's something that is \Nvery often misunderstood
Dialogue: 0,0:06:25.74,0:06:29.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,especially by new users\Nto FamilySearch because
Dialogue: 0,0:06:29.84,0:06:33.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the FamilySearch website is \Nsponsored by the Church
Dialogue: 0,0:06:33.12,0:06:37.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so it's logical to think the\NChurch provided those names.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:37.60,0:06:40.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But what the Church and \Nand FamilySearch did \N
Dialogue: 0,0:06:40.03,0:06:44.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was they gathered names \Nthat were provided by users.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:44.46,0:06:47.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have another webinar \Nthat goes into a lot more detail
Dialogue: 0,0:06:47.67,0:06:51.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on that so I won’t go into \Na lot of detail here,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:51.02,0:06:54.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but it's important to realize \Nthe names in Family Tree
Dialogue: 0,0:06:54.41,0:06:58.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,were ultimately \Ncontributed by users.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:58.96,0:07:02.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Here’s an example, for those \Nof you who might remember
Dialogue: 0,0:07:02.24,0:07:05.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the 4-generation program\Nof the last century.\N
Dialogue: 0,0:07:05.86,0:07:08.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We sent in our \Nfamily history
Dialogue: 0,0:07:08.26,0:07:12.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on family group sheets \Nlike this one.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:12.73,0:07:20.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is an actual family group \Nsheet for James Waterfield.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:20.05,0:07:25.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He’s got a couple of daughters, \Nbut notice there’s no wife,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:25.62,0:07:30.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and there’s a half-sister \Nto these other daughters here,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:30.26,0:07:32.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but the information \Nis scanty.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:32.96,0:07:38.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Rose Hannah has more information; \NMary, not so much.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:38.01,0:07:40.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But before we judge \Npeople too harshly,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:40.89,0:07:42.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we might look at \Nthis record and go,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:42.63,0:07:47.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,“Wow, that’s kind of shoddy work! \NThat wasn’t very complete.”
Dialogue: 0,0:07:47.14,0:07:53.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Remember, this sheet was prepared \Nbefore the days of the internet.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:53.22,0:07:56.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The person may not have even had \Naccess to a typewriter back then,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:56.69,0:07:58.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for those of you who know \Nwhat typewriters are
Dialogue: 0,0:07:58.88,0:08:01.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,since we don’t use them \Nmuch anymore.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:01.03,0:08:06.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have no doubt this person was \Ndoing the very best that they could.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:06.36,0:08:11.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They were following the \Ncounsel to collect names
Dialogue: 0,0:08:11.46,0:08:15.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for four generations and to \Nsubmit them to the church.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:15.44,0:08:19.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And to be honest with you, \Nmany of the names that are
Dialogue: 0,0:08:19.04,0:08:23.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,submitted to Family Tree, \Nare about of this quality.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:23.76,0:08:26.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It’s harder to see when \Nthe name is digital.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:26.98,0:08:30.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We can look at this family group \Nsheet and see there’s a lot missing.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:30.91,0:08:34.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But when you look at this \Nsame name in Family Tree,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:34.04,0:08:36.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's not quite so obvious\Nwhat's missing.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:36.78,0:08:42.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We don’t want to be judgmental \Nor critical of people
Dialogue: 0,0:08:42.06,0:08:44.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who have put names in \NFamily Tree.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:44.60,0:08:48.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Whether they did it through \Nan old 4-generation program
Dialogue: 0,0:08:48.61,0:08:52.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or they're doing it today, \Nthey’re doing the best they can
Dialogue: 0,0:08:52.29,0:08:56.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with the information \Nand skills that they have.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:56.04,0:08:58.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For any of you who \Nhave indexed,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:58.19,0:09:01.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you may be familiar with the old\Nextraction program,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:01.71,0:09:04.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which was the forerunner \Nof the indexing program.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:04.77,0:09:09.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Many extracted names were \Nalso added to Family Tree.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:09.04,0:09:12.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We see the neat screen in \NFamily Tree and it's all digital
Dialogue: 0,0:09:12.90,0:09:16.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and beautiful and easy to read,\Nand sometimes we don't stop
Dialogue: 0,0:09:16.40,0:09:19.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to think about where that\Ninformation came from.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:19.70,0:09:25.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It came from a record like this. \NSome are a little easier to read.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:25.24,0:09:28.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Some are a lot harder.\NBut they were, in many cases,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:28.61,0:09:31.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,handwritten records made \Nat the time of the event
Dialogue: 0,0:09:31.33,0:09:36.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by a person who may or may not \Nhave had an extensive education.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:36.67,0:09:40.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,People were doing their best, \Nbut this kind of information
Dialogue: 0,0:09:40.80,0:09:49.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ended up in Family Tree and it \Nvaried widely in quality.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:49.84,0:09:54.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, did the Church verify all the \Nnames in FamilySearch Family Tree?
Dialogue: 0,0:09:54.99,0:09:59.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Actually, they didn’t. \NNot because they didn't want to,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:59.29,0:10:01.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but because it simply \Nwouldn’t be feasible.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:01.86,0:10:10.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Family Tree has 1.1 \Nbillion names in it, \N
Dialogue: 0,0:10:10.54,0:10:14.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so it wouldn’t have been \Nfeasible for the Church to get
Dialogue: 0,0:10:14.64,0:10:19.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the staff and the manpower \Nto verify every single one.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:19.06,0:10:22.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The truth is, we the users \Nare responsible for
Dialogue: 0,0:10:22.95,0:10:27.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,verifying the names \Nin Family Tree.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:27.60,0:10:30.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Many of those names \Nthat we just looked at
Dialogue: 0,0:10:30.05,0:10:32.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,became green temples \Nin Family Tree.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:32.72,0:10:36.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So those extracted records \Nor names submitted with the old
Dialogue: 0,0:10:36.77,0:10:42.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,3 and 4 generation program, \Nended up in Family Tree
Dialogue: 0,0:10:42.29,0:10:45.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with green temples \Nlooking like they need
Dialogue: 0,0:10:45.03,0:10:47.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,temple work when \Nthey actually don’t.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:47.79,0:10:50.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that’s an important \Nthing to be aware of
Dialogue: 0,0:10:50.27,0:10:52.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when you’re using \Na name-finding app.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:52.86,0:10:57.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In my experience, about 80% \Nof the green temples that I find
Dialogue: 0,0:10:57.85,0:11:01.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in Family Tree do not need \Ntemple work and there are
Dialogue: 0,0:11:01.84,0:11:05.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,four main reasons for that, \Nthat are listed here on the screen.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:05.78,0:11:08.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The first one is they \Nmight be a duplicate.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:08.10,0:11:10.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If they are a duplicate \Nof a record that already has
Dialogue: 0,0:11:10.57,0:11:14.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,temple work attached, then \Nthat work doesn’t need to be done,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:14.70,0:11:16.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the records just\Nneed to be merged.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:16.85,0:11:20.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The records might also have \Nerrors in vital information.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:20.23,0:11:25.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,As an example, I found a record \Nin Family Tree that had come from
Dialogue: 0,0:11:25.49,0:11:31.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,an early submission that \Nhad the birth place
Dialogue: 0,0:11:31.14,0:11:37.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of Cathearth in \NCambridgeshire, England.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:37.17,0:11:41.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And there was no such place \Nas Cathearth, but because
Dialogue: 0,0:11:41.29,0:11:45.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the last name of that person on the \Nrecord was one of my family names,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:45.60,0:11:48.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and because it was close to \Nwhere that family lived,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:48.55,0:11:51.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which was actually \Na place called Chatteris,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:51.25,0:11:55.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I thought there’s something going \Non, I’m going to check this out.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:55.75,0:11:59.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I found the original submission \Nand was able to determine
Dialogue: 0,0:11:59.64,0:12:03.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that the person had meant \NChatteris and not Cathearth.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:03.86,0:12:07.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But because of the error \Nin that vital information,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:07.02,0:12:10.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a duplicate did not come up \Nwhen I did the search.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:10.00,0:12:13.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,As soon as I corrected the error, \Nthe duplicate came up
Dialogue: 0,0:12:13.22,0:12:15.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and this woman’s temple work \Nhad already been done.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:15.86,0:12:18.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So errors in vital information \Ncan cause problems.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:18.62,0:12:21.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There can be relationship errors. \NNot too long ago,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:21.87,0:12:24.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I found a mother having \Nchildren when she was four.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:24.87,0:12:29.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Not so likely, right? \NSo there was a problem there.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:29.56,0:12:32.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Even though those names \Nhad green temples on them,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:32.32,0:12:34.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they weren’t ready \Nfor temple work.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:34.76,0:12:38.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Another common problem is that \Npeople will put in names,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:38.59,0:12:42.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,maybe based on a census \Nor they’ll come from extraction,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:42.23,0:12:45.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where they won’t have a death date \Nbecause they don’t know it
Dialogue: 0,0:12:45.78,0:12:48.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so the person shows up \Nwith a green temple,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:48.92,0:12:52.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but a little more research shows \Nthat they died before eight
Dialogue: 0,0:12:52.76,0:12:55.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and all they need is \Nsealing to parents.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:55.14,0:13:00.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So green temple names may not need\Nwork for any of these reasons
Dialogue: 0,0:13:00.11,0:13:05.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and a name-finding app will normally \Nnot be able to distinguish this.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:05.62,0:13:09.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They may tell some duplicates \Nbut on most of the rest of them,
Dialogue: 0,0:13:09.83,0:13:12.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,these other three \Nbullet points,
Dialogue: 0,0:13:12.21,0:13:15.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they don’t have the \Nprogramming power
Dialogue: 0,0:13:15.49,0:13:22.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or the algorithms, to determine \Nwhether those problems exist.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:22.99,0:13:26.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The last misconception of those \Nthree is that Family Tree
Dialogue: 0,0:13:26.23,0:13:29.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is intended to be an ongoing\Nsource of temple names.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:29.31,0:13:35.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Again, that’s logical if you think \Nthat the Church originally
Dialogue: 0,0:13:35.84,0:13:38.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,populated Family Tree \Nwith these temple names.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:38.88,0:13:45.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I found that this misconception \Ngets passed so frequently,
Dialogue: 0,0:13:45.99,0:13:50.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,kind of like wildfire gossip, \Nfrom one member to another.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:50.29,0:13:54.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Where I live, people are constantly \Ntelling each other this, saying,
Dialogue: 0,0:13:54.41,0:13:57.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,“All you have to do is go to Family\NTree and find your temple names.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:57.91,0:14:01.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Isn’t that awesome that the \NChurch has made it so easy!
Dialogue: 0,0:14:01.16,0:14:02.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They’ve just handed \Nus these names.”
Dialogue: 0,0:14:02.99,0:14:08.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so the “good news” gets \Nspread around with people
Dialogue: 0,0:14:08.85,0:14:13.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not realizing that it’s \Nactually a misconception.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:13.56,0:14:18.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But the truth is that Family Tree \Nis a wonderful gift that was
Dialogue: 0,0:14:18.02,0:14:21.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,given to us by the Church \Nthrough FamilySearch
Dialogue: 0,0:14:21.15,0:14:24.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as a place to collaborate \Nwith other researchers,
Dialogue: 0,0:14:24.95,0:14:33.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a place to track temple work, and \Nwhere we can add family names.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:33.86,0:14:37.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Once in a while when I talk \Nabout the problems
Dialogue: 0,0:14:37.08,0:14:42.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with the data in Family Tree, \NI have had a couple of people say,
Dialogue: 0,0:14:42.78,0:14:46.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,“Wow! It sounds to me like you’re \Ncriticizing Family Tree.”
Dialogue: 0,0:14:46.42,0:14:50.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,One person even felt like I was \Ncriticizing the Prophet because
Dialogue: 0,0:14:50.43,0:14:54.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the Church sponsors Family Tree. \NBut the truth is,
Dialogue: 0,0:14:54.36,0:14:58.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to point out the reality of the \Ndata in Family Tree
Dialogue: 0,0:14:58.01,0:15:02.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,isn’t a criticism, \Nit’s actually empowering,
Dialogue: 0,0:15:02.40,0:15:05.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because if we understand \Nthe data in Family Tree,
Dialogue: 0,0:15:05.64,0:15:08.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we understand better \Nhow to use it.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:08.38,0:15:11.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So data issues don’t mean \Nthat Family Tree is flawed,
Dialogue: 0,0:15:11.96,0:15:14.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or that the Church \Ndid something wrong
Dialogue: 0,0:15:14.91,0:15:17.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by putting this data \Nin Family Tree.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:17.80,0:15:24.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It only looks like a criticism of \NFamily Tree to point out the data
Dialogue: 0,0:15:24.58,0:15:28.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if a person thought the data was \Nsupposed to be perfect
Dialogue: 0,0:15:28.42,0:15:31.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that Family Search had\Nintended it to be perfect.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:31.84,0:15:35.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you think something’s perfect \Nand then someone says it’s not,
Dialogue: 0,0:15:35.84,0:15:40.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that sounds like criticism and\Nlike the program failed.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:40.59,0:15:46.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But if we realize that the \Npurpose of Family Tree
Dialogue: 0,0:15:46.73,0:15:50.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is for us to collaborate, \Ntrack temple work, and add names,
Dialogue: 0,0:15:50.08,0:15:55.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it was never meant to be a \Nperfect source of verified names,
Dialogue: 0,0:15:55.83,0:16:00.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then we realize it’s not a \Ncriticism of Family Tree.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:00.57,0:16:02.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So the problem isn’t \Nthe Family Tree data.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:02.76,0:16:08.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The problem is the misconceptions \Nthat we might have about it.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:08.47,0:16:12.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Two more common misconceptions \Nthat go a little bit hand in hand --
Dialogue: 0,0:16:12.96,0:16:16.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,One of those is that success \Nin family history
Dialogue: 0,0:16:16.34,0:16:19.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,means reserving large \Nnumbers of names.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:19.68,0:16:27.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Again, this is one of those \Nmisconceptions promoted by apps,
Dialogue: 0,0:16:27.67,0:16:31.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at least the way they are used, \Nbecause so many people use them
Dialogue: 0,0:16:31.54,0:16:34.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to find large numbers \Nof temple names.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:34.18,0:16:39.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Associated with that, is the \Nmisconception that family history
Dialogue: 0,0:16:39.52,0:16:44.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is tedious and time-consuming, \Nespecially so without an app.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:44.75,0:16:51.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Let’s look a little bit closer \Nat those two misconceptions.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:51.04,0:16:53.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, does success in \Nfamily history mean
Dialogue: 0,0:16:53.07,0:16:55.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,reserving large \Nnumbers of names?
Dialogue: 0,0:16:55.08,0:16:58.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We’ve been taught in conference \Nthat’s not the case.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:58.83,0:17:02.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You might remember Elder Scott’s\Ntalk where he mentioned that he
Dialogue: 0,0:17:02.21,0:17:07.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,didn’t think people would be very \Nhappy beyond the veil if someone
Dialogue: 0,0:17:07.25,0:17:11.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,reserved a large number of names \Nand kept them in their temple queue.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:11.21,0:17:16.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So that's a problem and\Nthe Church has dealt
Dialogue: 0,0:17:16.24,0:17:18.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with that problem by \Nreleasing names from
Dialogue: 0,0:17:18.75,0:17:22.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,people’s temple queues if they’re \Nolder than two years.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:22.34,0:17:29.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So that took care of that problem, \Nbut still I hear people saying,
Dialogue: 0,0:17:29.82,0:17:38.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,“Wow! I found 400 names!” \NIt almost becomes a matter of pride.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:38.12,0:17:43.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I remember hearing a talk that was \Ngiven in my stake by a young woman
Dialogue: 0,0:17:43.35,0:17:47.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who had been taught to use a \Nname-finding app to just comb
Dialogue: 0,0:17:47.33,0:17:49.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,through family tree and \Nfind bunches of names.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:49.77,0:17:52.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So she had used the app. \NShe had gone through and gotten
Dialogue: 0,0:17:52.93,0:17:56.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a couple hundred names and then \Nher sister tried to use the app
Dialogue: 0,0:17:56.90,0:18:02.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to crawl the tree, but the older \Ngirl had already reserved the names
Dialogue: 0,0:18:02.14,0:18:05.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,after the app had run \Nfor a certain period of time.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:05.61,0:18:09.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So the younger sister was really \Nfrustrated and discouraged because
Dialogue: 0,0:18:09.73,0:18:11.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,she tried to do the same\Nthing her sister did
Dialogue: 0,0:18:11.98,0:18:18.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and wasn’t able to get \Nthis huge number of names.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:18.86,0:18:24.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Another problem with this \Nmisconception is that it can lead
Dialogue: 0,0:18:24.55,0:18:27.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to cutting corners and \Nnot verifying the names.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:27.48,0:18:30.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So people will use the app. \NThey’ll gather hundreds
Dialogue: 0,0:18:30.50,0:18:34.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and in some cases I’ve heard of, \Npeople doing thousands of names,
Dialogue: 0,0:18:34.10,0:18:36.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then they don’t verify them. \NThey either put them in their
Dialogue: 0,0:18:36.77,0:18:40.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,temple queue or share them \Nwith the temple system,
Dialogue: 0,0:18:40.50,0:18:43.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then other people end up \Ndoing the invalid names,
Dialogue: 0,0:18:43.15,0:18:46.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is not really\Nfair to them.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:46.56,0:18:50.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So if success in family history \Ndoesn’t mean reserving
Dialogue: 0,0:18:50.30,0:18:56.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,huge numbers of names, how do we \Nqualify success in family history?
Dialogue: 0,0:18:56.87,0:19:00.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,After years of working with people \Nand helping them get started,
Dialogue: 0,0:19:00.24,0:19:03.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I’ve come to believe that \Nsuccess in family history
Dialogue: 0,0:19:03.62,0:19:06.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,means a consistent, \Ndiligent effort.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:06.92,0:19:10.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In a way, for those of you who \Nare home or visiting teachers,
Dialogue: 0,0:19:10.68,0:19:14.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it’s the same principle. \NHome and visiting teaching
Dialogue: 0,0:19:14.61,0:19:17.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,isn’t a one and done. \NWe don’t just visit a person
Dialogue: 0,0:19:17.33,0:19:19.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,once and then say, \N“Okay, you’re good for life.”
Dialogue: 0,0:19:19.90,0:19:25.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or just think about them once \Ntowards the end of the month.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:25.70,0:19:27.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Being a good home or \Nvisiting teacher means
Dialogue: 0,0:19:27.97,0:19:31.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,consistent, diligent effort \Non a regular basis.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:31.27,0:19:34.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I really believe it’s \Nthe same in family history.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:34.48,0:19:37.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, our goal shouldn’t be \Nto be gathering large
Dialogue: 0,0:19:37.61,0:19:40.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,numbers of family names, \Nbut instead to be
Dialogue: 0,0:19:40.79,0:19:45.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,making a consistent, \Ndiligent effort.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:45.43,0:19:48.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And this one, oh my goodness, \Nplease forgive me because
Dialogue: 0,0:19:48.72,0:19:52.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this is actually one of \Nmy greatest concerns,
Dialogue: 0,0:19:52.38,0:19:56.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,one that I just wish I \Ncould shout from the rooftops
Dialogue: 0,0:19:56.50,0:20:00.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and tell people it’s a \Nmyth that family history
Dialogue: 0,0:20:00.58,0:20:02.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is tedious and \Ntime-consuming.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:02.37,0:20:04.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Let’s leave the app \Naside for a minute.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:04.93,0:20:08.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There’s a misconception in the \Nchurch that family history is
Dialogue: 0,0:20:08.88,0:20:13.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,tedious and time-consuming. \NIt’s true that some time periods
Dialogue: 0,0:20:13.28,0:20:19.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and some areas of the world are \Nmore difficult than others.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:19.80,0:20:24.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I wish I could tell people \Nthat everybody has places
Dialogue: 0,0:20:24.100,0:20:28.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on their line like that, \Nbut everybody also has
Dialogue: 0,0:20:28.22,0:20:31.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,places on their line that \Nare easier than others.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:31.72,0:20:37.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So family history is not tedious \Nand time-consuming per se.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:37.64,0:20:43.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What is tedious and time-consuming \Nis doing it without the spirit.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:43.17,0:20:47.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Let me give you an example. \NI was helping my friend Marci
Dialogue: 0,0:20:47.12,0:20:55.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,get started with family history\Nquite a few years ago.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:55.70,0:20:59.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was kind of new to what I was\Ndoing and hadn’t fully realized
Dialogue: 0,0:20:59.80,0:21:03.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the power of prayer and the \Npower of following the spirit.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:03.17,0:21:06.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So Marci and I just met in \Nthe Family History Center and
Dialogue: 0,0:21:06.06,0:21:09.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sat down to work on her lines. \NI asked what she wanted to work on.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:09.15,0:21:12.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And she said, “Well, what about this?” \NSo we got in there
Dialogue: 0,0:21:12.77,0:21:18.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we looked and looked and tried\Nstuff and churned and finally
Dialogue: 0,0:21:18.80,0:21:25.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,after 45 minutes or an hour, \Nwe both looked at each other and
Dialogue: 0,0:21:25.32,0:21:31.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,agreed it wasn't working \Nand didn't feel right.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:31.06,0:21:33.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was a good learning \Nexperience that it took me
Dialogue: 0,0:21:33.28,0:21:36.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that long to realize \Nthat it wasn’t working.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:36.30,0:21:39.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it was tedious. \NAnd it was time consuming.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:39.91,0:21:44.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we both felt that we had not \Nmade the best use of our time.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:44.27,0:21:48.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But what was interesting \Nis that after we realized that,
Dialogue: 0,0:21:48.58,0:21:52.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then we sought the Lord \Nand the inspiration of the Spirit,
Dialogue: 0,0:21:52.77,0:21:55.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we felt prompted to move \Nto a different place
Dialogue: 0,0:21:55.24,0:21:58.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in her family tree \Nand things just opened up.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:58.19,0:22:01.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it was not tedious, \Nand it was not time-consuming.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:01.70,0:22:07.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, I really believe it’s a myth, \Nand we do people a disservice
Dialogue: 0,0:22:07.11,0:22:11.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when we teach them family history \Nis tedious and time-consuming.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:11.63,0:22:18.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, technology can help us. \NIt can take some of the searching.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:18.73,0:22:21.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We can search digital records \Nso much more quickly than if we
Dialogue: 0,0:22:21.37,0:22:27.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,had to travel to a court house. \NBut family history only becomes
Dialogue: 0,0:22:27.42,0:22:30.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,tedious and time-consuming when \Nwe’re not going by the Spirit.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:30.93,0:22:33.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It can be challenging, \Nbut it won’t be tedious
Dialogue: 0,0:22:33.60,0:22:37.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it won’t be this \Nterrible experience.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:37.92,0:22:43.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, unintended consequences \Nof those misconceptions,
Dialogue: 0,0:22:43.24,0:22:49.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,let’s take a look at some of those.\NInvalid or duplicate temple work.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:49.96,0:22:54.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We’ve talked a little bit \Nabout that with the high percentage
Dialogue: 0,0:22:54.27,0:22:57.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of green temples \Nthat are invalid.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:57.85,0:23:01.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Another problem that \Nhas surfaced within
Dialogue: 0,0:23:01.60,0:23:06.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the last year or so is using a \Nname-finding app to take
Dialogue: 0,0:23:06.36,0:23:16.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,names that somebody else is \Nright in the process of reserving.
Dialogue: 0,0:23:16.14,0:23:20.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then not realizing that names \Nneed to be added to Family Tree.
Dialogue: 0,0:23:20.90,0:23:25.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So if we think that Family Tree \Nis this pool of names that
Dialogue: 0,0:23:25.82,0:23:28.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the Church has provided, \Nthen we don’t realize that
Dialogue: 0,0:23:28.84,0:23:31.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a lot of names are missing \Nand that we are the ones
Dialogue: 0,0:23:31.53,0:23:35.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who are supposed to be \Nadding those names.
Dialogue: 0,0:23:35.06,0:23:38.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And finally, another unintended \Nconsequence is not becoming
Dialogue: 0,0:23:38.72,0:23:43.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,self-sufficient in finding names \Nbecause we don’t think we have to
Dialogue: 0,0:23:43.59,0:23:48.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and so we don't and so we never \Nlearn to become self-sufficient.
Dialogue: 0,0:23:48.17,0:23:51.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I want to go into a little bit \Nmore detail about this problem
Dialogue: 0,0:23:51.53,0:23:56.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of taking names that other \Npeople are currently reserving.
Dialogue: 0,0:23:56.03,0:23:59.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I want to share two experiences \Nthat I had on that.
Dialogue: 0,0:23:59.39,0:24:03.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The first is that one of my friends \Ncalled me almost in tears.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:03.62,0:24:08.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Her voice was teary when she said, \N“I’ve been working on this
Dialogue: 0,0:24:08.12,0:24:10.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,such and such family.” \NShe was pretty new to
Dialogue: 0,0:24:10.42,0:24:13.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,family history at the time \Nand she was learning to
Dialogue: 0,0:24:13.65,0:24:16.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,do careful verification \Nand find family and
Dialogue: 0,0:24:16.69,0:24:20.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it had just been such a beautiful \Nexperience for her to finally
Dialogue: 0,0:24:20.21,0:24:22.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,take her own family \Nnames to the temple.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:22.42,0:24:25.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So she had found this family \Nand she was very carefully
Dialogue: 0,0:24:25.44,0:24:29.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,putting them in family tree, \Nverifying the names,
Dialogue: 0,0:24:29.14,0:24:31.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,adding the sources, \Nand so forth and then,
Dialogue: 0,0:24:31.66,0:24:34.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,before she could finally \Nmake the reservations,
Dialogue: 0,0:24:34.53,0:24:38.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,someone else came through \Nwith a name-finding app
Dialogue: 0,0:24:38.54,0:24:42.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to reserve those green temples \Nand took the names that
Dialogue: 0,0:24:42.15,0:24:45.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,my friend had very carefully \Nresearched and verified,
Dialogue: 0,0:24:45.62,0:24:47.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and this other person \Nhad not done any
Dialogue: 0,0:24:47.98,0:24:51.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,research or verification\Non the names.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:51.05,0:24:57.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So that’s one experience that I \Nlearned first-hand from my friend.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:57.75,0:25:00.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then I had an experience \Nthe other night,
Dialogue: 0,0:25:00.49,0:25:06.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where I was working on a name \Nand I promise you the name had not
Dialogue: 0,0:25:06.24,0:25:10.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,been available in the system \Nfor more than five minutes,
Dialogue: 0,0:25:10.81,0:25:13.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I think it was more \Nlike about 3 minutes,
Dialogue: 0,0:25:13.63,0:25:16.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when somebody else came \Nthrough and got the name.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:16.93,0:25:21.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was in the very process of \Nreserving it for temple work.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:21.85,0:25:27.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now, it’s important to point out \Nthat it is not wrong to reserve a
Dialogue: 0,0:25:27.86,0:25:31.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,name added by somebody else. \NThat’s not what I’m saying.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:31.30,0:25:35.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, my niece, just as an example, \Nshe loves doing family history
Dialogue: 0,0:25:35.98,0:25:39.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the other day she had found \Nsome names that were very
Dialogue: 0,0:25:39.94,0:25:44.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,difficult to find while she was \Nworking on our family.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:44.71,0:25:47.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So she found family names, \Nbut she found some other names
Dialogue: 0,0:25:47.42,0:25:52.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in that process, of people that it\Ntook her awhile and they were
Dialogue: 0,0:25:52.60,0:25:55.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,tricky to find. Well, she \Nmade the choice to put
Dialogue: 0,0:25:55.82,0:26:00.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,those names in Family Tree because \Nshe suspected that it would be very
Dialogue: 0,0:26:00.25,0:26:04.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,difficult for somebody else to \Nrepeat the research she had done.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:04.96,0:26:06.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So she put the names \Nin Family Tree,
Dialogue: 0,0:26:06.70,0:26:10.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but because they weren’t on her\Nline she did not reserve them.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:10.60,0:26:13.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So if somebody comes along \Nand reserves those names,
Dialogue: 0,0:26:13.54,0:26:18.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that’s why she put them there. \NSo that is not a problem at all.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:18.22,0:26:23.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The problem arises when --\NWell, I just have to ask myself,
Dialogue: 0,0:26:23.60,0:26:26.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is it fair to take names\Nthat somebody else
Dialogue: 0,0:26:26.62,0:26:29.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,has loved and labored \Nover with no more
Dialogue: 0,0:26:29.90,0:26:34.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,thought than running an \Nautomated name-finding program.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:34.18,0:26:37.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So to avoid this problem,\Nas you’ve probably noticed
Dialogue: 0,0:26:37.98,0:26:40.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if you’ve used one of these \Nname-finding apps,
Dialogue: 0,0:26:40.26,0:26:45.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they don't tell, at least none\Nof the ones that I have tried,
Dialogue: 0,0:26:45.18,0:26:47.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,tell you when the \Nname was created.\N
Dialogue: 0,0:26:47.68,0:26:50.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so, if a name \Nwas created,
Dialogue: 0,0:26:50.68,0:26:53.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you can tell this is by \Nlooking in the change log.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:53.56,0:26:57.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Over on the right-hand side \Nof the Person page,
Dialogue: 0,0:26:57.57,0:27:00.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there’s a link that says \N“Show All Changes.”
Dialogue: 0,0:27:00.46,0:27:03.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you click that link and\Nscroll to the bottom,
Dialogue: 0,0:27:03.12,0:27:06.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it will tell you when \Nthat name was created.
Dialogue: 0,0:27:06.84,0:27:10.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So you can tell if the name was \Ncreated within the last week
Dialogue: 0,0:27:10.99,0:27:12.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or maybe even within \Nthe last month,
Dialogue: 0,0:27:12.80,0:27:17.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it would be a nice courtesy \Nto contact the person who
Dialogue: 0,0:27:17.47,0:27:20.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,contributed that name and say, \N“I noticed that you
Dialogue: 0,0:27:20.76,0:27:24.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,contributed this name. \NThey’re on my family line too,
Dialogue: 0,0:27:24.58,0:27:28.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I was hoping to reserve \Nsome names for the temple.
Dialogue: 0,0:27:28.40,0:27:31.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Are you OK with me \Nreserving these names?”
Dialogue: 0,0:27:31.07,0:27:33.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And who knows, through that \Nprocess you might meet a
Dialogue: 0,0:27:33.47,0:27:36.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,cousin who you can collaborate \Non research with.
Dialogue: 0,0:27:36.44,0:27:41.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But just doing that resolves \Nthe problem of reserving names
Dialogue: 0,0:27:41.16,0:27:45.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that other people are right \Nin the process of reserving.
Dialogue: 0,0:27:45.54,0:27:48.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You can imagine how discouraging \Nthat is, especially for a new
Dialogue: 0,0:27:48.61,0:27:53.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,family historian, to be right in \Nthe process of adding names and
Dialogue: 0,0:27:53.05,0:27:56.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just have those names vanish\Nright before their eyes as
Dialogue: 0,0:27:56.19,0:28:02.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they’re trying to add them. \NThat’s a reason that I recommend
Dialogue: 0,0:28:02.95,0:28:07.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not adding lots of names all at \Nonce with a name-finding app,
Dialogue: 0,0:28:07.63,0:28:10.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but rather checking those names \Nand checking to make sure that
Dialogue: 0,0:28:10.34,0:28:17.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,somebody else is not already \Nplanning to reserve those names.
Dialogue: 0,0:28:17.17,0:28:22.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Another problem is that people \Nget the mindset that family
Dialogue: 0,0:28:22.30,0:28:25.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,history means searching in \NFamily Tree for names and
Dialogue: 0,0:28:25.100,0:28:28.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they don’t realize \Nnames need to be added.
Dialogue: 0,0:28:28.60,0:28:31.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I did some checking and \Ngot some updated figures.
Dialogue: 0,0:28:31.22,0:28:36.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,These population totals used \Nto be higher but current estimates
Dialogue: 0,0:28:36.19,0:28:41.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are that about 100 to 115 billion \Npeople have lived on the earth
Dialogue: 0,0:28:41.71,0:28:45.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,since the beginning \Nof human history.
Dialogue: 0,0:28:45.50,0:28:50.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Only 1.1 billion people \Nare in Family Tree.
Dialogue: 0,0:28:50.00,0:28:54.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I am not really good at math, \Nbut even I can figure out that
Dialogue: 0,0:28:54.95,0:29:01.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this leaves between 99 billion \Nand 114 billion people
Dialogue: 0,0:29:01.55,0:29:05.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that probably need to be \Nadded to Family Tree.
Dialogue: 0,0:29:05.40,0:29:10.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Granted there are not records \Nfor many people who lived
Dialogue: 0,0:29:10.51,0:29:13.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,back through time where either \Nthe records have been destroyed
Dialogue: 0,0:29:13.15,0:29:17.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or they didn’t keep them. \NSo there are some of this
Dialogue: 0,0:29:17.44,0:29:20.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,large group that we’re not going \Nto be able to find records for,
Dialogue: 0,0:29:20.84,0:29:28.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but there are a surprisingly large \Nnumber that do have records.
Dialogue: 0,0:29:28.52,0:29:31.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A lot of people still need\Nto be added to Family Tree
Dialogue: 0,0:29:31.78,0:29:35.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it is an absolute joy. \NI don’t know that I’ve ever
Dialogue: 0,0:29:35.26,0:29:38.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,felt the Spirit stronger \Nthan when I find a name
Dialogue: 0,0:29:38.50,0:29:42.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and add it to Family Tree. \NThat person has just gone
Dialogue: 0,0:29:42.64,0:29:47.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from being lost to \N“getting in the queue”
Dialogue: 0,0:29:47.34,0:29:52.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of having the opportunity \Nto get their temple work done.
Dialogue: 0,0:29:52.35,0:29:55.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Some more unintended \Nconsequences --
Dialogue: 0,0:29:55.91,0:29:57.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,An unfortunate one \Nthat I’ve noticed
Dialogue: 0,0:29:57.77,0:30:01.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is relying on technology \Ninstead of the Spirit.
Dialogue: 0,0:30:01.18,0:30:05.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now let me be careful to \Nexplain what I mean there.
Dialogue: 0,0:30:05.02,0:30:09.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,One problem is that people \Ntrust technology more than
Dialogue: 0,0:30:09.25,0:30:13.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they trust themselves. \NI’ve been in information technology
Dialogue: 0,0:30:13.66,0:30:17.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for about 20 or 25 years now \Nas a web designer,
Dialogue: 0,0:30:17.44,0:30:21.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as a database person, \Ndone different things
Dialogue: 0,0:30:21.44,0:30:24.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with technology and \NI love technology. \N
Dialogue: 0,0:30:24.19,0:30:31.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Technology is so \Nmiraculous to us
Dialogue: 0,0:30:31.40,0:30:35.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in so many ways that we give it \Nmore credit than it deserves.
Dialogue: 0,0:30:35.44,0:30:39.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We think it’s maybe a little \Nmore perfect then it is.
Dialogue: 0,0:30:39.86,0:30:43.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because of that sometimes \Npeople will trust the technology
Dialogue: 0,0:30:43.78,0:30:49.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and not trust the Spirit. \NAnd usually in a case like that,
Dialogue: 0,0:30:49.44,0:30:52.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it’s not so much that they \Ndon’t trust the Spirit,
Dialogue: 0,0:30:52.14,0:30:55.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but more that they doubt the \Nprompting that they’re hearing
Dialogue: 0,0:30:55.40,0:30:58.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because they think, “why \Nam I getting that prompting
Dialogue: 0,0:30:58.36,0:31:01.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because the technology right\Non my screen that I can trust,
Dialogue: 0,0:31:01.57,0:31:05.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or I feel I can trust, is showing \Nme something different.”
Dialogue: 0,0:31:05.65,0:31:10.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If it’s a toss-up and they’re \Nnot quite sure that the Spirit’s
Dialogue: 0,0:31:10.02,0:31:12.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,really speaking to them, \NI’ve seen that a lot of people
Dialogue: 0,0:31:12.89,0:31:18.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,will tend to go with technology.\NAnother issue is that technology
Dialogue: 0,0:31:18.98,0:31:21.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,can just make the Spirit \Nseem unnecessary.
Dialogue: 0,0:31:21.92,0:31:24.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So it’s not that people are \Nblocking the spirit
Dialogue: 0,0:31:24.28,0:31:27.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or ignoring the spirit, \Nit’s just that if you use
Dialogue: 0,0:31:27.09,0:31:30.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a name-finding app and it \Npresents you with 400 names
Dialogue: 0,0:31:30.52,0:31:33.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of people who apparently \Nneed temple work,
Dialogue: 0,0:31:33.43,0:31:37.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then why do you need to \Nfollow the Spirit on that,
Dialogue: 0,0:31:37.34,0:31:40.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The names are right I front of you. \NAnd I understand that.
Dialogue: 0,0:31:40.96,0:31:46.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I can see why people would.\NIt would not even occur to them
Dialogue: 0,0:31:46.48,0:31:49.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that they would need to follow \Nthe Spirit in a case like that
Dialogue: 0,0:31:49.76,0:31:54.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because the names have just been \Nhanded to them as they see it.
Dialogue: 0,0:31:54.79,0:32:01.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So another challenge that comes up, \Nanother unintended consequence is
Dialogue: 0,0:32:01.01,0:32:04.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that these misconceptions \Njust spread like wildfire.
Dialogue: 0,0:32:04.24,0:32:09.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because somebody reserves \N400 names or 8,000 or whatever,
Dialogue: 0,0:32:09.09,0:32:12.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they feel that they’ve \Nexperienced such great success,
Dialogue: 0,0:32:12.00,0:32:14.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they can’t wait to share \Nit with everybody else.
Dialogue: 0,0:32:14.93,0:32:19.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Just in the last couple of weeks, \NI’ve seen people posting on facebook
Dialogue: 0,0:32:19.07,0:32:23.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and posting on forums, saying, \N“I’ve found this wonderful app,
Dialogue: 0,0:32:23.98,0:32:28.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I reserved these hundreds \Nof names and now I’m just so glad
Dialogue: 0,0:32:28.18,0:32:31.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that I did that and you \Nguys should try it too.
Dialogue: 0,0:32:31.18,0:32:36.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So it just spreads because \Nit sounds so fantastic.
Dialogue: 0,0:32:36.09,0:32:42.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it sounds like it’s going to \Nmake a difficult task easier.
Dialogue: 0,0:32:42.17,0:32:48.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The problem is because people \Nhave these false expectations,
Dialogue: 0,0:32:48.31,0:32:52.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then when somebody tries to \Nshare the facts with them,
Dialogue: 0,0:32:52.44,0:32:58.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the facts are really not welcome. \NAnd that also is understandable.
Dialogue: 0,0:32:58.06,0:33:01.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Nobody likes to be disappointed \Nin their expectations.
Dialogue: 0,0:33:01.76,0:33:05.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I’ll give you a couple of examples. \NThere was someone on a public forum
Dialogue: 0,0:33:05.59,0:33:09.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who was talking about gathering \Nhundreds and hundreds of names,
Dialogue: 0,0:33:09.60,0:33:14.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and submitting them to the temple. \NWhen a few of us very gently tried
Dialogue: 0,0:33:14.47,0:33:18.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to suggest that a lot of the names \Ngathered that way probably
Dialogue: 0,0:33:18.99,0:33:21.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,weren’t valid and at least \Nthey should be verified,
Dialogue: 0,0:33:21.73,0:33:24.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the person responded, \N“Do you mean to tell me that
Dialogue: 0,0:33:24.79,0:33:28.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the Church has spent millions \Nof dollars to make Family Tree
Dialogue: 0,0:33:28.79,0:33:32.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the names in it aren’t \Neven ready for temple work?”
Dialogue: 0,0:33:32.20,0:33:35.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So that was shock to them and \Nit was a huge disappointment,
Dialogue: 0,0:33:35.79,0:33:40.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because they had been led to \Nbelieve that all they had to do
Dialogue: 0,0:33:40.37,0:33:44.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was run an app and gather \Nnames out of Family Tree.
Dialogue: 0,0:33:44.99,0:33:47.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Another person that I was \Nhelping not too long ago,
Dialogue: 0,0:33:47.88,0:33:53.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we sat down and he happily showed\Nme his name-finding results,
Dialogue: 0,0:33:53.06,0:33:58.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where he had around 300 names \Nthat the app had found
Dialogue: 0,0:33:58.78,0:34:04.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and he said, “Isn’t this great? \NI’d like to get these names done.”
Dialogue: 0,0:34:04.18,0:34:09.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I said, “I’m so glad \Nyou found those names.
Dialogue: 0,0:34:09.19,0:34:12.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We really should verify them. \NThere’s a chance that some
Dialogue: 0,0:34:12.85,0:34:16.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of them may not be accurate \Nand it’s always just a good idea
Dialogue: 0,0:34:16.38,0:34:18.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to go through and attach \Nsome sources and so forth.”
Dialogue: 0,0:34:18.87,0:34:22.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he just said, \N“No, I’d really rather not.
Dialogue: 0,0:34:22.99,0:34:26.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The names look ready to me so I \Nthink I’m just going to go ahead.”
Dialogue: 0,0:34:26.97,0:34:32.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Of course as a consultant, you \Ncan’t put your foot down and say
Dialogue: 0,0:34:32.33,0:34:35.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,“NO! You’re not submitting those \Nnames until you’ve verified them.”
Dialogue: 0,0:34:35.29,0:34:38.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We all have our agency \Nand we’re all responsible,
Dialogue: 0,0:34:38.22,0:34:42.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I have to think that this \Nbrother had very good intentions,
Dialogue: 0,0:34:42.23,0:34:47.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I know he had very good intentions, \Nand I have to think that one reason
Dialogue: 0,0:34:47.70,0:34:51.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he felt that it was appropriate was \Nbecause he had used an app that
Dialogue: 0,0:34:51.50,0:34:55.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,presented those names to him as \Napparently needing temple work,
Dialogue: 0,0:34:55.70,0:35:03.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it just seemed superfluous that\Nhe would need to verify them.
Dialogue: 0,0:35:03.64,0:35:09.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For the last part of these \Nunintended consequences,
Dialogue: 0,0:35:09.41,0:35:18.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I want to talk about some of the \Nmore spiritual downsides to using
Dialogue: 0,0:35:18.65,0:35:22.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,name-finding apps and gathering \Nlarge numbers of names.
Dialogue: 0,0:35:22.29,0:35:26.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What I’m noticing among people \Nthat have done this is that they
Dialogue: 0,0:35:26.20,0:35:29.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,don’t really get to know the \Npeople whose names they’re
Dialogue: 0,0:35:29.49,0:35:33.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,reserving so their hearts \Naren’t really turned.
Dialogue: 0,0:35:33.32,0:35:39.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,All those people are \Nis names on a list to them.
Dialogue: 0,0:35:39.06,0:35:41.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Don’t get me wrong, \Nthey feel a general sense of
Dialogue: 0,0:35:41.72,0:35:45.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,“Wow, this is great! Now \Ntheir temple work can be done.”
Dialogue: 0,0:35:45.31,0:35:49.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That is wonderful but they don’t \Nknow anything about these people.
Dialogue: 0,0:35:49.77,0:35:53.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Where did they live? \NWhat was their life like?
Dialogue: 0,0:35:53.01,0:35:58.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What did they experience that has \Ncontributed to the way I live?
Dialogue: 0,0:35:58.90,0:36:02.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What sacrifices did they \Nmake that enabled me
Dialogue: 0,0:36:02.79,0:36:05.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to enjoy the blessings \NI have today?
Dialogue: 0,0:36:05.70,0:36:10.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So when we don’t dig into those \Nnames as we’ve actually been
Dialogue: 0,0:36:10.09,0:36:15.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,counselled to do then we lose \Nsomething really precious and,
Dialogue: 0,0:36:15.09,0:36:20.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in my experience, people’s hearts \Nare not turned by just
Dialogue: 0,0:36:20.17,0:36:24.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,submitting names from an app, \Nand especially just by submitting
Dialogue: 0,0:36:24.11,0:36:28.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,large numbers of names \Nthat aren’t verified.
Dialogue: 0,0:36:28.52,0:36:33.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Another problem that I’ve seen \Nis that an app can encourage
Dialogue: 0,0:36:33.58,0:36:37.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,people to have that \N“one and done” mentality,
Dialogue: 0,0:36:37.73,0:36:41.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like the woman that I mentioned, \NI don’t think I told this
Dialogue: 0,0:36:41.21,0:36:43.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,whole story in this webinar, \Nbut I mentioned somebody
Dialogue: 0,0:36:43.75,0:36:49.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who found 8,000 names. \NShe was a sister from California,
Dialogue: 0,0:36:49.35,0:36:53.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who had been taught to use a \Nname-finding app and didn’t realize
Dialogue: 0,0:36:53.10,0:36:57.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that there were some possible \Nproblems with it so she had just
Dialogue: 0,0:36:57.09,0:37:00.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,reserved all these names and \Nshared them with the temple system
Dialogue: 0,0:37:00.68,0:37:08.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and thought, “OK, that’s done. \NI’ve fulfilled my obligation
Dialogue: 0,0:37:08.97,0:37:12.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to family history.” \NWhat’s interesting about
Dialogue: 0,0:37:12.54,0:37:15.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,family history is that, \Nas Boyd K. Packer said,
Dialogue: 0,0:37:15.68,0:37:21.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there is no work that is \Nmore spiritually refining.
Dialogue: 0,0:37:21.79,0:37:24.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When we treat it like \Na “one and done”
Dialogue: 0,0:37:24.19,0:37:28.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think we miss out on that \Nspiritual refinement.
Dialogue: 0,0:37:28.18,0:37:32.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We don’t have that on-going \Nblessing of learning to
Dialogue: 0,0:37:32.58,0:37:36.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,recognize the spirit, \Nof connecting with our ancestors,
Dialogue: 0,0:37:36.06,0:37:38.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of discovering \Nour family stories.
Dialogue: 0,0:37:38.71,0:37:44.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so, I think we rob ourselves \Nof that blessing when we make
Dialogue: 0,0:37:44.72,0:37:50.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,family history into a \N“one and done” experience.
Dialogue: 0,0:37:50.65,0:38:00.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I debated whether or not to share \Nthis next one because once
Dialogue: 0,0:38:00.84,0:38:05.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in a while people have gotten \Noffended at my bringing this up.
Dialogue: 0,0:38:05.63,0:38:11.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But, I’ve experienced it myself and \NI’ve talked to so many other people
Dialogue: 0,0:38:11.45,0:38:15.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that have experienced it that I \Nthink it’s worth mentioning.
Dialogue: 0,0:38:15.56,0:38:21.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that is, that when we submit \Ninvalid names for temple work,
Dialogue: 0,0:38:21.16,0:38:25.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,our temple experience \Nis less meaningful.
Dialogue: 0,0:38:25.52,0:38:29.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I think there’s a \Ngood reason for that.
Dialogue: 0,0:38:29.34,0:38:33.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,As perhaps you have, I have been \Nin the temple when I have
Dialogue: 0,0:38:33.37,0:38:37.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,literally felt the gratitude of the\Nperson whose work I was doing.
Dialogue: 0,0:38:37.59,0:38:41.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I could tell they were pleased. \NI could tell that they accepted
Dialogue: 0,0:38:41.29,0:38:45.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the work and that they were so \Nhappy about the chance to progress.
Dialogue: 0,0:38:45.65,0:38:50.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don’t think I would feel that \Nsame joy and gratitude from
Dialogue: 0,0:38:50.54,0:38:55.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,somebody if I were doing their \Nwork for the 20th time.
Dialogue: 0,0:38:55.06,0:38:59.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I had a friend who had an \Nexperience that illustrated
Dialogue: 0,0:38:59.26,0:39:03.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this not too long ago.\NHe had gone to the baptistery
Dialogue: 0,0:39:03.21,0:39:05.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to do some family names\Nthat he had carefully
Dialogue: 0,0:39:05.87,0:39:09.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,researched and validated and \Nhe said that the Spirit was so
Dialogue: 0,0:39:09.46,0:39:13.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,strong during that experience. \NHe was just overjoyed to tell that
Dialogue: 0,0:39:13.83,0:39:16.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,those people were happy \Nabout their temple work.
Dialogue: 0,0:39:16.78,0:39:19.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So after he did the work \Nfor his ancestors,
Dialogue: 0,0:39:19.83,0:39:25.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,apparently it wasn’t a very busy \Nday so the officiator asked if he
Dialogue: 0,0:39:25.26,0:39:30.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,could stay and do other names. \NAnd so he agreed gladly and
Dialogue: 0,0:39:30.33,0:39:34.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,started doing the names. \NAs he did, he noticed that the
Dialogue: 0,0:39:34.42,0:39:39.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,wonderful feelings were no longer \Npresent, and that seemed strange.
Dialogue: 0,0:39:39.46,0:39:44.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,As they went through the names, \Nwhat he started to notice is that
Dialogue: 0,0:39:44.16,0:39:48.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there were a couple of them that \Nwere apparently the wrong gender.
Dialogue: 0,0:39:48.25,0:39:53.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They were clearly women’s names \Nthat were being baptized as men.
Dialogue: 0,0:39:53.50,0:39:57.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And also there were some dates \Nthat were suspect and some places,
Dialogue: 0,0:39:57.42,0:40:00.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and things that you could just\Ntell that these names
Dialogue: 0,0:40:00.94,0:40:03.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,had not been very \Ncarefully researched.
Dialogue: 0,0:40:03.65,0:40:07.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And for my friend, \Nthat was just another testimony
Dialogue: 0,0:40:07.18,0:40:12.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that when we are careless with \Nour family names and don’t
Dialogue: 0,0:40:12.02,0:40:15.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,properly verify them, \Nand then if we do work and
Dialogue: 0,0:40:15.61,0:40:19.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the names turn out to be invalid, \Nit’s not going to be as meaningful
Dialogue: 0,0:40:19.98,0:40:23.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of a temple experience. \NNow the reason some people have
Dialogue: 0,0:40:23.43,0:40:26.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,expressed concern before, \Nis that they’ve misunderstood me
Dialogue: 0,0:40:26.49,0:40:29.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to say the temple’s not \Na good experience.
Dialogue: 0,0:40:29.92,0:40:35.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,No, that’s not what I’m saying. \NBut what I am saying is that
Dialogue: 0,0:40:35.28,0:40:39.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if we’re careful about doing \Nour research and we find
Dialogue: 0,0:40:39.89,0:40:44.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,valid names and we’re guided by \Nthe Spirit in doing that work,
Dialogue: 0,0:40:44.76,0:40:47.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then we’re going to have an \Nespecially beautiful experience
Dialogue: 0,0:40:47.80,0:40:53.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at the temple which we \Nmight not otherwise have.
Dialogue: 0,0:40:53.56,0:40:58.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Let’s return, if you don’t mind, \Nto the misconception that I said
Dialogue: 0,0:40:58.81,0:41:03.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was one of my greatest concerns, \Nand that is that we're teaching
Dialogue: 0,0:41:03.04,0:41:06.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,people that family history \Nis tedious and difficult.
Dialogue: 0,0:41:06.63,0:41:09.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And in this particular context \Npeople are being taught that
Dialogue: 0,0:41:09.61,0:41:12.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's tedious and difficult \Nwithout the app.
Dialogue: 0,0:41:12.83,0:41:15.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The truth is \Nfamily history is
Dialogue: 0,0:41:15.58,0:41:24.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,tedious and difficult \Nwithout the Spirit.
Dialogue: 0,0:41:24.44,0:41:33.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What I’d like to do now \Nis show you an alternative
Dialogue: 0,0:41:33.38,0:41:36.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,approach to using \Nname finding apps,
Dialogue: 0,0:41:36.57,0:41:40.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,especially to find \Nlarge numbers of names.
Dialogue: 0,0:41:40.78,0:41:44.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A little while ago, \Nthe Church did some research
Dialogue: 0,0:41:44.47,0:41:47.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I learned about this \Nin a presentation that I attended
Dialogue: 0,0:41:47.53,0:41:51.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by a brother named Mike Sandberg \Nwho works for family search.
Dialogue: 0,0:41:51.65,0:41:54.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He said that the Church \Nhad done research on people
Dialogue: 0,0:41:54.41,0:41:58.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who were not submitting \Nany temple names at all
Dialogue: 0,0:41:58.77,0:42:02.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and suddenly they went to \Nsubmitting names regularly.
Dialogue: 0,0:42:02.20,0:42:06.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So naturally, the Church \Nhad a burning question.
Dialogue: 0,0:42:06.19,0:42:10.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How did they make the transition? \NWhat enabled them to go from
Dialogue: 0,0:42:10.73,0:42:14.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not submitting any names at all \Nto successfully submitting
Dialogue: 0,0:42:14.73,0:42:17.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,temple names regularly? \NWhat they found out
Dialogue: 0,0:42:17.99,0:42:23.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was very interesting. \N85% of those who made this
Dialogue: 0,0:42:23.01,0:42:30.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,transition had a helper and 65% \Nof them got help multiple times.
Dialogue: 0,0:42:30.93,0:42:36.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So the Church discovered that \Nhaving a person to help or mentor
Dialogue: 0,0:42:36.51,0:42:42.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,somebody new to family history \Nwas the key to success.
Dialogue: 0,0:42:42.77,0:42:46.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If this is sounding familiar \Nto any of you, you will realize
Dialogue: 0,0:42:46.58,0:42:51.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that this became the basis for the \NChurch’s Find-Take-Teach program.
Dialogue: 0,0:42:51.43,0:42:57.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Find-Take-Teach is a Spirit-led, \None-on-one effort
Dialogue: 0,0:42:57.06,0:43:04.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where help is given \Nby a person who pays the price
Dialogue: 0,0:43:04.20,0:43:07.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to know how to help \Nthat person by the Spirit.
Dialogue: 0,0:43:07.90,0:43:12.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Let me go ahead and show you \Nin a little more detail
Dialogue: 0,0:43:12.16,0:43:18.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,why this approach works. \NI’m simplifying this.
Dialogue: 0,0:43:18.24,0:43:22.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you want more information \Nyou can look on FamilySearch.org.
Dialogue: 0,0:43:22.36,0:43:24.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They’ve got a complete \Ndescription of it.
Dialogue: 0,0:43:24.71,0:43:29.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But very simply, the helper and \Nthe patron both pray for guidance
Dialogue: 0,0:43:29.68,0:43:34.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then the helper prepares a \Npersonalized lesson by the Spirit.
Dialogue: 0,0:43:34.90,0:43:37.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And during this lesson, \Nalso by the Spirit,
Dialogue: 0,0:43:37.93,0:43:40.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they find a starting place \Nfor this person
Dialogue: 0,0:43:40.39,0:43:45.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or they find valid temple \Nnames for the person.
Dialogue: 0,0:43:45.76,0:43:49.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Finally, when they get together, \Nthe helper guides the patron
Dialogue: 0,0:43:49.77,0:43:54.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in a one-on-one setting to \Nreserve those temple names.
Dialogue: 0,0:43:54.82,0:44:00.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I want to show you as a person who \Nhas responsibility currently for
Dialogue: 0,0:44:00.88,0:44:04.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,helping and mentoring people, \NI want to show you the process
Dialogue: 0,0:44:04.64,0:44:09.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that I go through to find a good \Nstarting place when I’m working
Dialogue: 0,0:44:09.18,0:44:12.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with somebody in a \NFind-Take-Teach experience.
Dialogue: 0,0:44:12.34,0:44:17.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is not the only way to do it. \NIt’s the way that works best for me
Dialogue: 0,0:44:17.52,0:44:22.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I have other friends that are \Nequally successful in using
Dialogue: 0,0:44:22.10,0:44:26.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,different approaches but I can \Nspeak to what works for me.
Dialogue: 0,0:44:26.60,0:44:29.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I hope that this example \Nmight be helpful to you
Dialogue: 0,0:44:29.68,0:44:35.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in finding your own best approach.\NSo the first, most important thing
Dialogue: 0,0:44:35.08,0:44:39.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for me is that I have to go \Nsome place quiet where I can
Dialogue: 0,0:44:39.54,0:44:44.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,hear the Spirit in preparing \Nthis Find-Take-Teach experience.
Dialogue: 0,0:44:44.14,0:44:49.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I can’t be where I’m distracted. \NI can’t be where I feel pressured.
Dialogue: 0,0:44:49.06,0:44:52.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have to be in a place \Nwhere I can truly feel
Dialogue: 0,0:44:52.28,0:44:54.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the inspiration \Nof the Holy Ghost.
Dialogue: 0,0:44:54.71,0:45:01.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, I make those arrangements, \Nwhatever it takes.
Dialogue: 0,0:45:01.27,0:45:06.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In one of my classes a sister said \Nthat she can’t do it at home.
Dialogue: 0,0:45:06.65,0:45:08.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There’s just no way, \Neven in the bathroom
Dialogue: 0,0:45:08.64,0:45:11.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it’s like knock, knock, knock \N“Mom! Are you in there?”
Dialogue: 0,0:45:11.58,0:45:15.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So what she does is she \Ngoes to the public library
Dialogue: 0,0:45:15.92,0:45:17.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where people are \Nsupposed to be quiet.
Dialogue: 0,0:45:17.96,0:45:21.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so that place works for her. \NYou might find a different quiet
Dialogue: 0,0:45:21.16,0:45:24.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,place that works for you. \NBut whatever you do,
Dialogue: 0,0:45:24.54,0:45:27.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,find a place where you can be \Nin tune with the Spirit.
Dialogue: 0,0:45:27.65,0:45:31.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then, I bring up the Fan Chart, \Nthat’s my favorite place to work.
Dialogue: 0,0:45:31.79,0:45:35.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I listen for what I call \N“heart tugs” which are
Dialogue: 0,0:45:35.72,0:45:39.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,spiritual promptings to me \Nthat somebody is wanting
Dialogue: 0,0:45:39.50,0:45:43.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,their temple work to be done. \NSo here’s an example.
Dialogue: 0,0:45:43.40,0:45:47.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I had offered to help a sister \Nat the MTC as part of a
Dialogue: 0,0:45:47.68,0:45:52.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Find-Take-Teach experience there. \NThis sister had a very full tree
Dialogue: 0,0:45:52.79,0:45:56.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and she wasn’t convinced that we \Nwould be able to find anything.
Dialogue: 0,0:45:56.98,0:45:59.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I asked for her\Nhelper number.
Dialogue: 0,0:45:59.96,0:46:03.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The place where we were working \Nthat Sunday in the MTC was very
Dialogue: 0,0:46:03.20,0:46:07.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,noisy and I knew that it was \Nnot a good place for me to
Dialogue: 0,0:46:07.67,0:46:12.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,really hear the Spirit and \Nfind a good starting place.
Dialogue: 0,0:46:12.13,0:46:17.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I asked for her helper number and we\Narranged to meet the following week.
Dialogue: 0,0:46:17.82,0:46:22.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I went to a place where \NI could listen to the Spirit.
Dialogue: 0,0:46:22.14,0:46:27.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,As I did, I prayed sincerely, and \NI had asked her to pray with me.
Dialogue: 0,0:46:27.05,0:46:32.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so, I looked at the fan chart \Nand as I pondered and looked and
Dialogue: 0,0:46:32.15,0:46:36.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,clicked on a few different names, \NI found that I was drawn to this
Dialogue: 0,0:46:36.12,0:46:40.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,name of Abraham Chadwick. \NSo I thought, "OK, I’ll follow that
Dialogue: 0,0:46:40.72,0:46:43.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,prompting and I will \Ncheck Abraham’s
Dialogue: 0,0:46:43.34,0:46:46.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Person page and see\Nwhat’s going on there."
Dialogue: 0,0:46:46.56,0:46:51.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, as my friend mentioned, \Nhe had done a lot.
Dialogue: 0,0:46:51.34,0:46:54.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,As it turned out, and I had no way \Nof knowing this of course,
Dialogue: 0,0:46:54.58,0:47:01.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he was the first member of their \Nfamily to join the Church.
Dialogue: 0,0:47:01.83,0:47:04.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So as I looked here and read \Nhis personal history and clicked
Dialogue: 0,0:47:04.66,0:47:07.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on his wives’ names and \Nhis children’s names,
Dialogue: 0,0:47:07.66,0:47:10.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sure enough all their work \Nwas done and it was evident
Dialogue: 0,0:47:10.81,0:47:14.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that he was a good, faithful \Nman from reading his testimony.
Dialogue: 0,0:47:14.52,0:47:17.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I thought, "Wow, this might \Nbe harder than I thought."
Dialogue: 0,0:47:17.72,0:47:21.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But I continued to pray and ask \Nthe Spirit for guidance to be led
Dialogue: 0,0:47:21.27,0:47:24.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to that place where the \NSpirit wanted me to work
Dialogue: 0,0:47:24.62,0:47:30.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for my dear sister in the MTC. \NAnd as I did, again just another
Dialogue: 0,0:47:30.24,0:47:32.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,line-upon-line gentle prompting, \NI found that I was
Dialogue: 0,0:47:32.90,0:47:35.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,led to this name of \NSarah Ann Chadwick.
Dialogue: 0,0:47:35.81,0:47:39.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I looked at that and \Nthis is what I found.
Dialogue: 0,0:47:39.86,0:47:46.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She had a husband, George Bradbury, \Nand they had six kids.
Dialogue: 0,0:47:46.21,0:47:52.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And all their work was done too, \Nso I’m so grateful that by this
Dialogue: 0,0:47:52.07,0:47:55.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,point I had learned better \Nhow to recognize the Spirit,
Dialogue: 0,0:47:55.55,0:47:59.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because in my younger days I might \Nhave doubted myself and just said,
Dialogue: 0,0:47:59.30,0:48:03.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,“Wow, I’ve been digging around here \Nand I’m not finding anything so that
Dialogue: 0,0:48:03.86,0:48:05.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,might not really have \Nbeen the Spirit.”
Dialogue: 0,0:48:05.85,0:48:11.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I might have questioned myself. \NBut because I had, fortunately,
Dialogue: 0,0:48:11.42,0:48:16.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,tried really hard to grow in my \Nability, and I’m far from perfect,
Dialogue: 0,0:48:16.26,0:48:19.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I’d really tried to grow in \Nmy ability to hear the Spirit,
Dialogue: 0,0:48:19.27,0:48:23.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I trusted these promptings. \NI thought, “I’m gonna keep going.
Dialogue: 0,0:48:23.66,0:48:26.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I am not sure why ‘cause this \Nisn’t looking too good,
Dialogue: 0,0:48:26.42,0:48:30.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I’m gonna keep trying.” \NSo I clicked on the first name of
Dialogue: 0,0:48:30.68,0:48:37.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,their first son and that’s when I \Nstarted to feel that I was going
Dialogue: 0,0:48:37.19,0:48:40.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the right direction. \NAnd so the first thing that caught
Dialogue: 0,0:48:40.83,0:48:44.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,my attention was that Samuel’s wife \Ndidn’t even have a last name.
Dialogue: 0,0:48:44.79,0:48:48.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So that indicated more research \Ndefinitely needed to be done.
Dialogue: 0,0:48:48.79,0:48:53.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I noticed that they \Ndidn’t have many children.
Dialogue: 0,0:48:53.31,0:49:01.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Back in the 1800’s, most families \Nhad a large number of children.
Dialogue: 0,0:49:01.74,0:49:07.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,With just a little bit of research, \Nit wasn’t like I took days and days,
Dialogue: 0,0:49:07.19,0:49:09.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in fact I don’t think \Nit was even hours,
Dialogue: 0,0:49:09.71,0:49:15.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it was just a little quick checking \Nin Ancestry and FamilySearch
Dialogue: 0,0:49:15.61,0:49:19.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,historical records. \NIt didn’t take long to discover
Dialogue: 0,0:49:19.27,0:49:23.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that Samuel and Kate were missing \Nfour children from Family Tree.
Dialogue: 0,0:49:23.79,0:49:27.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,These children were not there and \Nneeded to be added so that their
Dialogue: 0,0:49:27.55,0:49:29.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,temple work could be done. \NAnd then I thought,
Dialogue: 0,0:49:29.90,0:49:32.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,“OK, that is why I \Ngot that prompting.”
Dialogue: 0,0:49:32.92,0:49:36.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think the reason I was prompted \Nto start with Abraham was that if
Dialogue: 0,0:49:36.82,0:49:40.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I got a prompting like suppose \Nthat the name Samuel Bradbury
Dialogue: 0,0:49:40.64,0:49:44.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,came into my mind, I would not \Nhave a clue what to do with it.
Dialogue: 0,0:49:44.39,0:49:51.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so the Spirit led me along a\Npath where I could see how this
Dialogue: 0,0:49:51.13,0:49:55.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,family first got involved with \Nthe Church and then how these
Dialogue: 0,0:49:55.77,0:50:01.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,people who needed their ordinances \Nwere related to that first convert.
Dialogue: 0,0:50:01.47,0:50:05.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So this was just a wonderful, \Nbeautiful experience in
Dialogue: 0,0:50:05.27,0:50:12.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,finding these names. \NAlso, as I did more research,
Dialogue: 0,0:50:12.22,0:50:17.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I found in the 1911 census that \NKate had died and so Samuel had
Dialogue: 0,0:50:17.70,0:50:21.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,remarried and his second wife \NAda Sarah was not in
Dialogue: 0,0:50:21.69,0:50:25.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Family Tree either, and her \Ntemple work needed to be done.
Dialogue: 0,0:50:25.53,0:50:29.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So just from following that \Nprompting, I was able to find and
Dialogue: 0,0:50:29.02,0:50:34.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,verify these five names and pass \Nthose on to the sister in the MTC
Dialogue: 0,0:50:34.96,0:50:38.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so that she could get \Nthat temple work done.
Dialogue: 0,0:50:38.38,0:50:42.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Another example on this family, \Nwas that when I looked at Hannah,
Dialogue: 0,0:50:42.54,0:50:47.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Samuel’s younger sister, \Nshe did not have a spouse.
Dialogue: 0,0:50:47.04,0:50:49.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Again, just a little \Nbit of research.
Dialogue: 0,0:50:49.02,0:50:52.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This wasn’t hours of looking \Nthrough court records or something,
Dialogue: 0,0:50:52.51,0:50:56.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this was doing a search on \NAncestry in available censuses.
Dialogue: 0,0:50:56.77,0:50:59.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In just a short period of time \NI discovered that at one point
Dialogue: 0,0:50:59.90,0:51:02.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Hannah had been living \Nwith her mother.
Dialogue: 0,0:51:02.32,0:51:10.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so there was the definite proof \Nthere that this really was my
Dialogue: 0,0:51:10.08,0:51:14.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Hannah that I was looking for, \Nand found out that she did have a
Dialogue: 0,0:51:14.24,0:51:17.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,husband and they had \Nthree children together.
Dialogue: 0,0:51:17.20,0:51:20.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Right there were four more names, \Nfour valid names that needed
Dialogue: 0,0:51:20.99,0:51:26.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to be added to Family Tree.\NSo that is an example of how
Dialogue: 0,0:51:26.76,0:51:31.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to follow the Spirit to find \Na place to work in Family Tree.
Dialogue: 0,0:51:31.60,0:51:36.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But I was mentioning this to a dear\Nsister in my stake who I was
Dialogue: 0,0:51:36.17,0:51:40.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,helping get started with family \Nhistory and this is what she said,
Dialogue: 0,0:51:40.81,0:51:43.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,“I don’t think I’m that good \Nat hearing the Spirit.”
Dialogue: 0,0:51:43.97,0:51:46.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have to tell you \Nsomething about this sister.
Dialogue: 0,0:51:46.20,0:51:49.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She is amazing! She serves people. \NShe’s wonderful.
Dialogue: 0,0:51:49.86,0:51:52.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don’t think she was giving \Nherself enough credit.
Dialogue: 0,0:51:52.73,0:51:57.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But, I think all of us have felt \Nthat kind of sense of inadequacy.
Dialogue: 0,0:51:57.57,0:52:01.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I know I certainly did, especially \Nwhen I was first starting to really
Dialogue: 0,0:52:01.82,0:52:04.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,try to follow the Spirit \Nin family history.
Dialogue: 0,0:52:04.63,0:52:10.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Fortunately we all learn to hear \Nthe Spirit line upon line.
Dialogue: 0,0:52:10.17,0:52:13.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Wherever you are in learning \Nto follow the Spirit,
Dialogue: 0,0:52:13.80,0:52:18.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,wherever I am, that’s a place \Nto start growing from.
Dialogue: 0,0:52:18.90,0:52:22.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In fact the only place we can start \Ngrowing from is where we are.
Dialogue: 0,0:52:22.90,0:52:25.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So we all learn to hear the \NSpirit line upon line,
Dialogue: 0,0:52:25.62,0:52:29.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and to me that is such good news, \Nbecause that’s doable.
Dialogue: 0,0:52:29.04,0:52:31.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I can do that. \NI can grow line upon line.
Dialogue: 0,0:52:31.87,0:52:35.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the wonderful thing I that have \Nfound about family history,
Dialogue: 0,0:52:35.36,0:52:41.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and to me it’s one of its greatest, \Ngreatest blessings is that it is
Dialogue: 0,0:52:41.81,0:52:46.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,simply one of the best tutorials \Nin learning to hear the Spirit.
Dialogue: 0,0:52:46.91,0:52:50.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I could give you dozens of \Nexamples on this, but I won’t.
Dialogue: 0,0:52:50.89,0:52:56.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I’ve got a whole other webinar \Non that and I’ll show you the
Dialogue: 0,0:52:56.29,0:53:01.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,link at the end of this one and \Nyou can watch that if you'd like.
Dialogue: 0,0:53:01.10,0:53:09.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have found as I listen to the \NSpirit in doing family history,
Dialogue: 0,0:53:09.15,0:53:12.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I’ve learned more about how the\NSpirit speaks to me and that
Dialogue: 0,0:53:12.68,0:53:17.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,knowledge has grown over the years \Nas I continue to hear promptings
Dialogue: 0,0:53:17.49,0:53:21.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and discern then correctly, \Nand sometimes not correctly.
Dialogue: 0,0:53:21.50,0:53:26.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I learn from making mistakes too. \NBut the point that I wanted to
Dialogue: 0,0:53:26.48,0:53:30.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,make is that family history \Nis one of the very best
Dialogue: 0,0:53:30.15,0:53:33.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,tutorials in learning \Nto hear the Spirit.
Dialogue: 0,0:53:33.28,0:53:37.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And if we don’t try to follow the \NSpirit in family history then we
Dialogue: 0,0:53:37.30,0:53:44.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,lose that great opportunity of \Nrefining our ability to hear.
Dialogue: 0,0:53:44.80,0:53:51.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Hearing the Spirit better brings \Nblessings in all areas of our lives.
Dialogue: 0,0:53:51.06,0:53:55.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I love this quote by Joseph Smith, \Nand it’s something that I have
Dialogue: 0,0:53:55.44,0:54:00.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,experienced doing family history. \NAnd that is that a person may
Dialogue: 0,0:54:00.46,0:54:04.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,profit by noticing the \Nfirst intimation (or hint)
Dialogue: 0,0:54:04.96,0:54:08.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the spirit of revelation.\NIt may give you sudden strokes
Dialogue: 0,0:54:08.53,0:54:13.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of ideas like call so and so, \Nor sit here at this meeting
Dialogue: 0,0:54:13.28,0:54:16.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because you don’t know this \Nbut you’re going to find somebody
Dialogue: 0,0:54:16.32,0:54:20.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to help you with temple names, \Nor there’s a mistake in your record,
Dialogue: 0,0:54:20.69,0:54:23.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,go back and check it. \NSo it may give you these sudden
Dialogue: 0,0:54:23.44,0:54:28.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,strokes of ideas so that by \Nnoticing it you find it fulfilled.
Dialogue: 0,0:54:28.14,0:54:30.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So you find that prompting \Nyou got was a real
Dialogue: 0,0:54:30.81,0:54:35.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,prompting because whatever\Nit told you about was true.
Dialogue: 0,0:54:35.06,0:54:37.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So you find it fulfilled \Nthe same day or soon
Dialogue: 0,0:54:37.43,0:54:41.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and thus by learning the Spirit \Nof God and understanding it,
Dialogue: 0,0:54:41.82,0:54:45.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you may grow into the \Nprinciple of revelation.
Dialogue: 0,0:54:45.20,0:54:49.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it’s my testimony that this \Nis absolutely true and that doing
Dialogue: 0,0:54:49.31,0:54:51.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,family history gives \Nyou the opportunity
Dialogue: 0,0:54:51.67,0:54:56.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to grow in hearing \Nrevelation in this way.
Dialogue: 0,0:54:56.73,0:55:05.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, closing thoughts. \NThis is something that comes up
Dialogue: 0,0:55:05.70,0:55:09.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from time to time when we \Ntalk about the problems with
Dialogue: 0,0:55:09.73,0:55:14.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,misusing name-finding apps. \NSo the person will say,
Dialogue: 0,0:55:14.14,0:55:17.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,“But, the app I’m using is \Ncertified by FamilySearch.
Dialogue: 0,0:55:17.39,0:55:20.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Doesn’t that mean that it \Nfinds valid names?”
Dialogue: 0,0:55:20.08,0:55:23.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that’s understandable why \Npeople would think that because
Dialogue: 0,0:55:23.75,0:55:27.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the word “certified” sounds \Nreally official, doesn’t it.
Dialogue: 0,0:55:27.67,0:55:31.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It sounds like there’s some \Ntype of guarantee on the app
Dialogue: 0,0:55:31.15,0:55:33.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that it’s going to perform \Nas I expect it to.
Dialogue: 0,0:55:33.85,0:55:38.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But, that’s actually not the case. \NThe short answer is no,
Dialogue: 0,0:55:38.87,0:55:42.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,being certified doesn’t guarantee \Nfinding valid names.
Dialogue: 0,0:55:42.50,0:55:46.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And, in fact, it doesn’t have \Nanything to do with valid names.
Dialogue: 0,0:55:46.83,0:55:52.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Let’s take a look at what \NFamilySearch certification means.
Dialogue: 0,0:55:52.69,0:55:57.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is a direct quote from the \NFamilySearch certification site.
Dialogue: 0,0:55:57.19,0:56:00.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The reason most people probably \Ndon’t read this is that it’s
Dialogue: 0,0:56:00.39,0:56:03.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,geared towards developers. \NSo most of us don’t have any
Dialogue: 0,0:56:03.50,0:56:07.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,reason to go out to this site. \NBut, listen to what it says.
Dialogue: 0,0:56:07.49,0:56:11.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The designation is simply used \Nto identify software applications
Dialogue: 0,0:56:11.84,0:56:16.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that FamilySearch believes to be \Ngenerally compatible with
Dialogue: 0,0:56:16.28,0:56:20.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,FamilySearch or its application \Nprogramming interfaces,
Dialogue: 0,0:56:20.06,0:56:23.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is basically the way the \Nprograms talk to each other.
Dialogue: 0,0:56:23.76,0:56:28.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So FamilySearch believes that \Nthis app is generally compatible
Dialogue: 0,0:56:28.40,0:56:32.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but FamilySearch takes no \Nresponsibility and is no way
Dialogue: 0,0:56:32.53,0:56:38.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,liable for any such application. \NAccordingly, FamilySearch in no way
Dialogue: 0,0:56:38.45,0:56:44.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,warrants that these applications \Nwill function as intended or that
Dialogue: 0,0:56:44.07,0:56:48.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they are free from harmful \Nor undesirable aspects
Dialogue: 0,0:56:48.16,0:56:54.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or free from errors. \NSo, the reason I bring this up
Dialogue: 0,0:56:54.07,0:56:58.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is just to help us understand \Nthat to say an app is FamilySearch
Dialogue: 0,0:56:58.79,0:57:03.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,certified is a wonderful thing and \Nit does mean something specific.
Dialogue: 0,0:57:03.75,0:57:07.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It means that you can generally\Ncount on it to work correctly with
Dialogue: 0,0:57:07.74,0:57:15.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the FamilySearch.org website, \Nbut it does not guarantee anything
Dialogue: 0,0:57:15.02,0:57:20.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about the app being used in a \Ncertain way, or misused, or any
Dialogue: 0,0:57:20.10,0:57:26.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,problem that result from its use.\NHere’s another thing that I hear
Dialogue: 0,0:57:26.54,0:57:30.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sometimes in talking with a couple \Nof different app developers or
Dialogue: 0,0:57:30.82,0:57:33.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,reading their websites. \NThey say, “I’m an app developer
Dialogue: 0,0:57:33.98,0:57:37.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and my app warns people that they \Nshould research the names that
Dialogue: 0,0:57:37.42,0:57:41.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they find so isn’t that enough?” \NYou would hope that it would be.
Dialogue: 0,0:57:41.70,0:57:44.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You would hope that everybody \Nreads the fine print,
Dialogue: 0,0:57:44.35,0:57:51.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but my own experience is that \NI don’t always read the fine print.
Dialogue: 0,0:57:51.15,0:57:55.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sometimes if I’m in a hurry \NI just glance at it and think
Dialogue: 0,0:57:55.52,0:57:59.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"I don't have time for this."\NMy experience is most people don't
Dialogue: 0,0:57:59.91,0:58:04.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,read the warnings not only for \Nthese apps but for anything.
Dialogue: 0,0:58:04.73,0:58:07.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In fact, I’ll give you an example. \NThe other day I was helping
Dialogue: 0,0:58:07.44,0:58:11.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,somebody in a Find-Take-Teach \Nexperience and several warnings
Dialogue: 0,0:58:11.86,0:58:15.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,came up during the process of \Nour working together and
Dialogue: 0,0:58:15.29,0:58:18.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the person I was helping just\Nclicked right past the warnings.
Dialogue: 0,0:58:18.76,0:58:23.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the sense that I got was that \Nthey felt that they would not
Dialogue: 0,0:58:23.83,0:58:27.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have understood the warnings anyway\Nso why bother to read them.
Dialogue: 0,0:58:27.26,0:58:31.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So maybe it was a little sense of \Ntechnophobia or inadequacy or
Dialogue: 0,0:58:31.75,0:58:36.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,whatever, but for whatever reason, \Nmost people don’t read the warnings
Dialogue: 0,0:58:36.61,0:58:41.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on these apps or anyplace else.\NI’ve also found that the few people
Dialogue: 0,0:58:41.16,0:58:45.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who read the warnings don’t really \Nunderstand how to apply it because
Dialogue: 0,0:58:45.40,0:58:48.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,often the main users of \Nname-finding apps are people
Dialogue: 0,0:58:48.98,0:58:51.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who are just getting started \Nin family history and
Dialogue: 0,0:58:51.54,0:58:54.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,somebody has told them about \Nthe app and said this is a
Dialogue: 0,0:58:54.69,0:58:57.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,quick and easy way to \Nfind temple names.
Dialogue: 0,0:58:57.02,0:59:00.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So they get to the app, \Nand if they read the warning,
Dialogue: 0,0:59:00.07,0:59:05.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they go, “Oh, Okay, I’ll research, \Nwhatever that means.”
Dialogue: 0,0:59:05.70,0:59:09.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so they reserve their \Nhundred names, or whatever,
Dialogue: 0,0:59:09.11,0:59:11.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then they look at the list \Nof a hundred and they go,
Dialogue: 0,0:59:11.84,0:59:17.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,“Well, looks fine to me. \NI’m not really sure what I’m
Dialogue: 0,0:59:17.58,0:59:22.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,looking for but I don’t see any \Nproblems so I guess I’ll go ahead.”
Dialogue: 0,0:59:22.76,0:59:26.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we can’t fault people for \Nthat because if they’re just
Dialogue: 0,0:59:26.07,0:59:29.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,getting started and they don’t \Nunderstand, then they’re doing
Dialogue: 0,0:59:29.68,0:59:33.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,their best to follow the warning \Nbut they didn’t really understand
Dialogue: 0,0:59:33.81,0:59:36.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what the app developer \Nmeant by the warning.
Dialogue: 0,0:59:36.83,0:59:42.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, that’s an example of how just \Nputting a warning on an app doesn’t
Dialogue: 0,0:59:42.33,0:59:47.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,really help solve the problem of \Nthe app being misused to find
Dialogue: 0,0:59:47.18,0:59:51.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,invalid names or large \Nnumbers of names.
Dialogue: 0,0:59:51.42,0:59:53.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So at this point you might \Nbe asking yourself,
Dialogue: 0,0:59:53.76,0:59:57.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what if I submitted a lot of names \Nlike the dear sister in California
Dialogue: 0,0:59:57.77,1:00:02.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that has submitted 8,000 names \Ngathered with a name-finding app?
Dialogue: 0,1:00:02.23,1:00:06.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, if the names are in your \Nreservation list, verify them.
Dialogue: 0,1:00:06.20,1:00:12.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You’ve got them. There's no\Nreason to not verify them.
Dialogue: 0,1:00:12.52,1:00:16.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What that means is not just kind of \Nlooking at them and going
Dialogue: 0,1:00:16.32,1:00:21.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,“Well, I don’t see any problems,” \Nbut rather going back and verifying
Dialogue: 0,1:00:21.39,1:00:25.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is the vital information correct? \NIs it supported by sources?
Dialogue: 0,1:00:25.66,1:00:28.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Are the relationships correct? \NAre there any obvious problems
Dialogue: 0,1:00:28.80,1:00:32.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like the mom having kids \Nwhen she’s age four?
Dialogue: 0,1:00:32.21,1:00:33.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So verifying\Nthose names,
Dialogue: 0,1:00:33.71,1:00:36.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you can’t really verify \Nnames en masse.
Dialogue: 0,1:00:36.74,1:00:39.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You need to verify \Nthem individually,
Dialogue: 0,1:00:39.11,1:00:43.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just like when the Savior had \Nthe individuals come to him.
Dialogue: 0,1:00:43.08,1:00:46.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When he appeared in the Americas, \Nthey came one by one.
Dialogue: 0,1:00:46.29,1:00:49.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We also need to verify \Nnames one by one
Dialogue: 0,1:00:49.14,1:00:51.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and make sure that\Nthey’re correct.
Dialogue: 0,1:00:51.17,1:00:54.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So that, of course, is not \Nnecessarily a short process,
Dialogue: 0,1:00:54.70,1:00:57.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,especially if you have 8,000 \Nnames in your temple queue.
Dialogue: 0,1:00:57.90,1:01:01.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So if it’s going to take longer \Nthan two years before the names
Dialogue: 0,1:01:01.41,1:01:06.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,will be released by the Church, \Nthen you probably would want to
Dialogue: 0,1:01:06.19,1:01:09.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,put those names back in \NFamilySearch and let other people
Dialogue: 0,1:01:09.61,1:01:12.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,go ahead and reserve them and \Nhopefully they would reserve
Dialogue: 0,1:01:12.55,1:01:16.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just a few and they would \Ncarefully verify them.
Dialogue: 0,1:01:16.06,1:01:18.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If the ordinances \Nare already done,
Dialogue: 0,1:01:18.68,1:01:21.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,don’t worry about it. \NDon’t beat yourself up.
Dialogue: 0,1:01:21.22,1:01:24.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I know of people who have \Nbeat themselves up.
Dialogue: 0,1:01:24.30,1:01:27.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Like a sister I’m aware of \Nwho found out that she had,
Dialogue: 0,1:01:27.59,1:01:33.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,after reserving green temple names\Nand doing about 30 ordinances,
Dialogue: 0,1:01:33.09,1:01:37.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a cousin contacted her and said, \N“Did you realize you just did
Dialogue: 0,1:01:37.69,1:01:40.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all this duplicate work? \NThose names were done years ago.
Dialogue: 0,1:01:40.94,1:01:44.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And she was so hurt and so \Nfrustrated and so disappointed
Dialogue: 0,1:01:44.88,1:01:48.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because she had been told that the\Nright thing to do was just gather
Dialogue: 0,1:01:48.35,1:01:51.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,these green names and that\Nshe didn’t need to verify them.
Dialogue: 0,1:01:51.17,1:01:54.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So she was so hurt and disappointed\Nthat she exclaimed,
Dialogue: 0,1:01:54.08,1:01:57.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,“I am never doing \Nfamily history again!”
Dialogue: 0,1:01:57.63,1:02:02.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now, hopefully after she thought \Nabout it she changed her mind.
Dialogue: 0,1:02:02.13,1:02:06.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That was hopefully just said in the \Ndisappointment of the moment,
Dialogue: 0,1:02:06.73,1:02:10.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but that’s what we don’t want \Nto do is beat ourselves up.
Dialogue: 0,1:02:10.34,1:02:13.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you’ve done some of these names, \Nespecially if you did them with
Dialogue: 0,1:02:13.66,1:02:16.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the best of intentions, \Nconsider it a learning
Dialogue: 0,1:02:16.57,1:02:19.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,experience and just say, “Okay, \Nthat’s water under the bridge.
Dialogue: 0,1:02:19.67,1:02:22.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Going forward I’ll know \Nbetter what to do.”
Dialogue: 0,1:02:22.58,1:02:26.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And, you can help people that you\Ntalk to be aware of these problems
Dialogue: 0,1:02:26.69,1:02:31.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so that they don’t run into \Nthe same types of issues.
Dialogue: 0,1:02:31.59,1:02:35.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Your next question might be, \Nare you saying that I should
Dialogue: 0,1:02:35.08,1:02:39.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,never use a name-finding app? \NNo, I’m not saying that,
Dialogue: 0,1:02:39.65,1:02:44.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because it is possible to use name-\Nfinding apps to find valid names.
Dialogue: 0,1:02:44.87,1:02:48.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's just that in my experience, \Nand this is anecdotal,
Dialogue: 0,1:02:48.11,1:02:51.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so this is just my experience\Nas a Stake Temple and
Dialogue: 0,1:02:51.31,1:02:53.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Family History Consultant\Nand a ward consultant
Dialogue: 0,1:02:53.77,1:02:57.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in a number of different \Nwards, it’s been my experience
Dialogue: 0,1:02:57.99,1:03:01.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that they usually aren’t \Nused to find valid names.
Dialogue: 0,1:03:01.34,1:03:04.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Most of the time the people \Nwho are using them have been
Dialogue: 0,1:03:04.44,1:03:07.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,told that it’s a fast \Nand easy way to find
Dialogue: 0,1:03:07.38,1:03:13.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,temple names and they’re \Nnot told about verification.
Dialogue: 0,1:03:13.46,1:03:18.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, if I use a name finding app, \Nhow can I find valid names?
Dialogue: 0,1:03:18.00,1:03:21.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You can! So here are some tips \Nfor finding valid names
Dialogue: 0,1:03:21.27,1:03:26.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with name-finding apps.\NFirst of all, most importantly,
Dialogue: 0,1:03:26.74,1:03:33.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,seek the guidance of the Spirit. \NI know a woman who started to use
Dialogue: 0,1:03:33.98,1:03:37.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a name-finding app and the \NSpirit told her not to.
Dialogue: 0,1:03:37.33,1:03:40.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now that was specifically \Nfor her situation.
Dialogue: 0,1:03:40.60,1:03:43.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That should not be \Ngeneralized to anybody else
Dialogue: 0,1:03:43.55,1:03:46.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in any other situation.\NThat was just in hers.
Dialogue: 0,1:03:46.51,1:03:51.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But, she was told not to \Nand if she had disobeyed
Dialogue: 0,1:03:51.24,1:03:54.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the Spirit, then that would \Nhave been a mistake for her.
Dialogue: 0,1:03:54.32,1:03:57.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So you want to seek the \Nguidance of the Spirit
Dialogue: 0,1:03:57.30,1:03:59.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in using the name-finding apps, \Nand if you’re warned
Dialogue: 0,1:03:59.89,1:04:02.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not to use them, then don’t. \NOn the other hand, if you’re
Dialogue: 0,1:04:02.90,1:04:10.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,told to use them by a definite \Nspiritual prompting then do.
Dialogue: 0,1:04:10.31,1:04:13.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Verify each and every name \Ncarefully that you find.
Dialogue: 0,1:04:13.60,1:04:16.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So verify the vital information, \Nthe relationships,
Dialogue: 0,1:04:16.83,1:04:21.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,check for duplicates, add sources, \Nmake sure the vital information
Dialogue: 0,1:04:21.47,1:04:28.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,agrees with the sources. \NAnd here a tip is to use
Dialogue: 0,1:04:28.15,1:04:32.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,one or more names as a starting \Npoint to find and add more names.
Dialogue: 0,1:04:32.59,1:04:36.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So you can find, maybe a couple \Nof names using a name-finding app
Dialogue: 0,1:04:36.81,1:04:41.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then go back to Family Tree and \Nthoroughly research those names and
Dialogue: 0,1:04:41.27,1:04:44.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,see if anybody’s missing, \Nkind of as we did in the example
Dialogue: 0,1:04:44.79,1:04:53.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that I showed you of the Find-\NTake-Teach experience in the MTC.
Dialogue: 0,1:04:53.68,1:04:57.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then finally, I found \Nthat it really helps to work
Dialogue: 0,1:04:57.91,1:05:03.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on one family at a time, rather\Nthan a large list of random names.
Dialogue: 0,1:05:03.69,1:05:07.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The reason it’s helpful to work on \None family at a time is that you
Dialogue: 0,1:05:07.25,1:05:10.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,get to know that family, \Nyou become familiar with
Dialogue: 0,1:05:10.40,1:05:13.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the place that they lived, \Nwith what they did for a living,
Dialogue: 0,1:05:13.59,1:05:17.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with how many children they had, \Nwith when their kids left home
Dialogue: 0,1:05:17.40,1:05:20.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and got married, and so forth.\NAnd so, as you follow
Dialogue: 0,1:05:20.58,1:05:24.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this family through time, \Nas you find their birth records,
Dialogue: 0,1:05:24.13,1:05:26.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,their census records, \Ntheir death records,
Dialogue: 0,1:05:26.98,1:05:30.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all those different things that \Nhelp you know that family,
Dialogue: 0,1:05:30.17,1:05:34.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then you’re able to correctly \Nfind the information for them,
Dialogue: 0,1:05:34.93,1:05:38.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,validate those names and \Nadd them to Family Tree.
Dialogue: 0,1:05:38.10,1:05:41.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I felt so much more \Ncomfortable working in
Dialogue: 0,1:05:41.22,1:05:45.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,family units to add names\Nto Family Tree rather than
Dialogue: 0,1:05:45.98,1:05:51.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just working from a mass list of \Nrandom names that are just in
Dialogue: 0,1:05:51.04,1:05:58.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,whatever order they were found \Nby the name-finding app.
Dialogue: 0,1:05:58.02,1:06:00.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, therefore what? \NDo you remember President Packer
Dialogue: 0,1:06:00.89,1:06:04.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,used to say this a lot, \Nso what are the takeaways that
Dialogue: 0,1:06:04.17,1:06:08.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I hope we’ll get from this webinar? \NWell, if you are a user
Dialogue: 0,1:06:08.14,1:06:11.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of a name-finding app, \Nthe takeaways are
Dialogue: 0,1:06:11.06,1:06:13.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I hope that you would be aware \Nof the potential problems
Dialogue: 0,1:06:13.80,1:06:17.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that we’ve talked about today \Nand also that you’d help others
Dialogue: 0,1:06:17.20,1:06:20.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,be aware because there’s so many \Nmisconceptions going around,
Dialogue: 0,1:06:20.79,1:06:24.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that you would use these apps \Nas guided by the Spirit,
Dialogue: 0,1:06:24.87,1:06:27.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that you would remember \Nthat there are so many names
Dialogue: 0,1:06:27.66,1:06:31.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that still need to be\Nadded to Family Tree,
Dialogue: 0,1:06:31.30,1:06:33.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that you would realize \Nthat a good helper can help you
Dialogue: 0,1:06:33.85,1:06:38.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in a way that an app can’t, \Nand that you would remember
Dialogue: 0,1:06:38.31,1:06:44.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that technology doesn’t replace\Nthought, research, or the Spirit.
Dialogue: 0,1:06:44.13,1:06:48.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,As amazing as technology is, \Nit’s not perfect and we need
Dialogue: 0,1:06:48.24,1:06:51.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to use it as a tool and \Nas a companion to our
Dialogue: 0,1:06:51.60,1:06:55.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,spiritual efforts but not \Nas a replacement for them.
Dialogue: 0,1:06:55.97,1:06:59.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you are a developer, \Nwhat would I hope that
Dialogue: 0,1:06:59.10,1:07:02.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you would take away from \Nthis webinar today?
Dialogue: 0,1:07:02.54,1:07:06.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I would love to see app \Ndevelopers educate people about
Dialogue: 0,1:07:06.18,1:07:10.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the data in Family Tree to \Ncombat those misconceptions.
Dialogue: 0,1:07:10.55,1:07:14.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Again, I don’t think most \Ndevelopers are setting out
Dialogue: 0,1:07:14.93,1:07:20.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to tell people wrong facts \Nabout the data in Family Tree.
Dialogue: 0,1:07:20.30,1:07:23.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They’re not meaning to \Ncommunicate misconceptions,
Dialogue: 0,1:07:23.72,1:07:28.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but users pick them up anyway, \Nespecially when they’re shared
Dialogue: 0,1:07:28.34,1:07:32.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,word of mouth from user to user \Nor posted on Facebook or wherever.
Dialogue: 0,1:07:32.59,1:07:36.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So app developers could do \Na huge favor to users
Dialogue: 0,1:07:36.57,1:07:40.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by educating them about \Nthe data in Family Tree.
Dialogue: 0,1:07:40.94,1:07:43.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Also, teach people that \NFamily Tree is not meant
Dialogue: 0,1:07:43.84,1:07:46.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to be a primary source \Nfor finding names.
Dialogue: 0,1:07:46.89,1:07:50.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yes, there are some great, valid \Ngreen temple names in Family Tree,
Dialogue: 0,1:07:50.85,1:07:55.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but Family Tree was never intended \Nto be a primary source of temple
Dialogue: 0,1:07:55.59,1:08:02.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,names so we don’t have to find our \Nown family or do our own research.
Dialogue: 0,1:08:02.07,1:08:06.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I would love it if app developers\Ndid not give users the impression
Dialogue: 0,1:08:06.95,1:08:10.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that family history without the \Napp is difficult and tedious.
Dialogue: 0,1:08:10.97,1:08:15.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Again, family history is only \Ndifficult and tedious
Dialogue: 0,1:08:15.13,1:08:19.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if we don’t have the Spirit. Let\Nme take that back on difficult.
Dialogue: 0,1:08:19.49,1:08:23.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There can be challenges, \Nespecially in some time periods
Dialogue: 0,1:08:23.79,1:08:28.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and some places, but what I found \Nis that if you follow the Spirit,
Dialogue: 0,1:08:28.77,1:08:31.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you’ll be led to solve those \Nproblems and there’s a
Dialogue: 0,1:08:31.33,1:08:36.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sense of joy and it’s not \Ndifficult in a horrible way.
Dialogue: 0,1:08:36.71,1:08:40.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It’s difficult in a challenging \Nand invigorating way.
Dialogue: 0,1:08:40.57,1:08:43.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, I would love for this \Nmisconception to be done
Dialogue: 0,1:08:43.84,1:08:48.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,away with in the Church, \Nthat family history is synonymous
Dialogue: 0,1:08:48.29,1:08:54.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with difficult and tedious. \NI would also love it if apps
Dialogue: 0,1:08:54.27,1:08:58.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,put caps on the number \Nof names that they found.
Dialogue: 0,1:08:58.00,1:09:01.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I’m aware of some that do, \Nbut to my understanding,
Dialogue: 0,1:09:01.43,1:09:05.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there are some that don’t, \Nthat allow users to just grab
Dialogue: 0,1:09:05.16,1:09:10.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,huge numbers of names and \Nsubmit them for temple work.
Dialogue: 0,1:09:10.52,1:09:15.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was talking with some friends \Nthe other day about the problems
Dialogue: 0,1:09:15.26,1:09:19.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that we continue to see with people \Nsubmitting large numbers of invalid
Dialogue: 0,1:09:19.62,1:09:24.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,names using name-finding \Napps and we would love it if
Dialogue: 0,1:09:24.08,1:09:26.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there was some kind of\Nfeature that would allow
Dialogue: 0,1:09:26.93,1:09:30.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,people to clean up those large \Nnumbers of the invalid names
Dialogue: 0,1:09:30.93,1:09:34.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that have been submitted, \Nwhether it was some
Dialogue: 0,1:09:34.09,1:09:37.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,super duplicate search or \Nsomething, I don’t know.
Dialogue: 0,1:09:37.96,1:09:40.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This was on our wish list. \NWe thought it would be
Dialogue: 0,1:09:40.61,1:09:43.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so wonderful if there was \Nsome way to clean up
Dialogue: 0,1:09:43.93,1:09:48.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,those many invalid names \Nthat have been submitted.
Dialogue: 0,1:09:48.65,1:09:52.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I would like to close with \Na quote from David Rancher,
Dialogue: 0,1:09:52.73,1:09:55.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who is currently the chief \Ngenealogical officer
Dialogue: 0,1:09:55.80,1:09:59.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at FamilySearch. \NHe said, “I love my computer.
Dialogue: 0,1:09:59.67,1:10:02.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I love it for everything \Nit can do for me,
Dialogue: 0,1:10:02.26,1:10:06.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but the computer is not \Nwhat turns my heart.
Dialogue: 0,1:10:06.66,1:10:10.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What turns my heart are the \Nexperiences and the impressions
Dialogue: 0,1:10:10.34,1:10:17.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have from the Spirit and the \Nthings that I know and understand.
Dialogue: 0,1:10:17.26,1:10:19.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So that concludes \Nour webinar for today.
Dialogue: 0,1:10:19.18,1:10:22.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I wanted to share with you those\Npromised additional resources.
Dialogue: 0,1:10:22.75,1:10:27.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The first one is a list of other \Nwebinars that you can get on this
Dialogue: 0,1:10:27.63,1:10:31.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,link down at the bottom and \Nthey are webinars that go into
Dialogue: 0,1:10:31.19,1:10:33.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,more detail about what \Nwe’ve talked about today.
Dialogue: 0,1:10:33.97,1:10:42.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Many times people use name-finding \Napps because they’ve been told that
Dialogue: 0,1:10:42.13,1:10:45.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it is the only way to find \Nsuccess as a beginner.
Dialogue: 0,1:10:45.60,1:10:48.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And, unfortunately, I’ve \Neven seen this attitude
Dialogue: 0,1:10:48.48,1:10:52.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,among consultants where \Nthey will say it is too hard
Dialogue: 0,1:10:52.39,1:10:55.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to teach a beginner to do \Ncareful family history.
Dialogue: 0,1:10:55.50,1:10:58.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They’re going to get discouraged\Nand they won’t do it.
Dialogue: 0,1:10:58.35,1:11:02.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so therefore I have to teach \Nthem to use the name-finding app.
Dialogue: 0,1:11:02.78,1:11:07.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well of course, Find-Take-Teach \Nhas turned that on its head.
Dialogue: 0,1:11:07.20,1:11:12.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,As a helper prepares a Spirit-led \NFind-Take-Teach experience
Dialogue: 0,1:11:12.67,1:11:18.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to find valid names, beginners do \Nlearn to do valid family history.
Dialogue: 0,1:11:18.42,1:11:23.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So that first webinar kind \Nof touches on that subject.
Dialogue: 0,1:11:23.66,1:11:26.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The second one dives more \Ninto using the Holy Ghost
Dialogue: 0,1:11:26.25,1:11:29.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in family history, duplicates \Nin Family Tree, obviously.
Dialogue: 0,1:11:29.92,1:11:34.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then the last one goes into \Na lot more detail on understanding
Dialogue: 0,1:11:34.19,1:11:37.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the data in Family Tree,\Nwhere it came from and
Dialogue: 0,1:11:37.01,1:11:39.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what some of the additional \Nchallenges are with it.
Dialogue: 0,1:11:39.94,1:11:42.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then lastly, \NI want to recommend to you
Dialogue: 0,1:11:42.01,1:11:46.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this amazing book that I just love. \NIt’s available at Deseret Book.
Dialogue: 0,1:11:46.28,1:11:48.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It’s called "Hearts Turned \Nto the Fathers,"
Dialogue: 0,1:11:48.25,1:11:52.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it’s a history of family \Nhistory since the restoration.
Dialogue: 0,1:11:52.90,1:11:55.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So it starts out from \Nthe beginning of the
Dialogue: 0,1:11:55.19,1:12:00.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,restored gospel to about \Nthe 1990’s when the book was
Dialogue: 0,1:12:00.03,1:12:04.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,published and when FamilySearch \Nwas just gaining traction.
Dialogue: 0,1:12:04.20,1:12:09.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So if you love family history \NI think you would love this book.
Dialogue: 0,1:12:09.04,1:12:11.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So thank you everybody for your \Ntime and attention today
Dialogue: 0,1:12:11.96,1:12:14.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I hope that this webinar \Nis helpful to you,
Dialogue: 0,1:12:14.95,1:12:17.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,hope that it makes your \Nfamily history more meaningful
Dialogue: 0,1:12:17.69,1:12:21.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and more successful. \NThank you.
Dialogue: 0,1:12:21.21,1:12:24.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Sean) Okay thank you so much \Nto Kathryn for that wonderful
Dialogue: 0,1:12:24.06,1:12:27.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,presentation. I would just like \Nto remind everybody that these
Dialogue: 0,1:12:27.95,1:12:31.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,webinars will be uploaded onto \NYouTube and our channel name
Dialogue: 0,1:12:31.39,1:12:35.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is BYU Family History Library. \NIf you could, before you leave
Dialogue: 0,1:12:35.75,1:12:39.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the webinar today, look at the \Ndifferent polls that we have
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Dialogue: 0,1:12:41.48,1:12:46.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We’d love to hear any feedback \Nthat you have or suggestions
Dialogue: 0,1:12:46.72,1:12:50.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to different topics that you’d \Nlike us to cover in the future.
Dialogue: 0,1:12:50.42,1:12:54.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That would be very helpful for us \Nand our different presenters.
Dialogue: 0,1:12:54.68,1:12:57.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And again, thanks to Kathryn for \Nthat wonderful presentation today
Dialogue: 0,1:12:57.94,1:13:08.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we hope to see you guys at our \Nnext webinar. Alright, Bye.