WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:02.671 . 00:00:02.671 --> 00:00:08.742 Amyotrophic Lateral Sclerosis - Death wish that comes true 00:00:08.742 --> 00:00:13.625 ALS 00:00:17.692 --> 00:00:21.889 M.T.Keshe (2000-2013) - All rights reserved 00:00:21.889 --> 00:00:25.762 www.keshefoundation.org 00:00:25.762 --> 00:00:52.035 00:00:52.035 --> 00:00:53.737 Contact: als@keshefoundation.com 00:00:53.737 --> 00:00:56.959 00:00:56.959 --> 00:00:59.423 www.keshefoundation.org 00:00:59.423 --> 00:01:03.941 My name is Mehran Tavakoli Keshe, I´m a director of the Keshe Foundation. 00:01:03.941 --> 00:01:07.060 Keshe Foundation is a spaceship program 00:01:07.060 --> 00:01:09.249 which is involved in plasma technology, 00:01:09.249 --> 00:01:13.747 and it has proven through different aspects of its development 00:01:13.747 --> 00:01:16.264 that energy and motion can be made 00:01:16.264 --> 00:01:19.621 from plasma in a very simple way. 00:01:19.621 --> 00:01:23.017 For years we've been asked how we have developed 00:01:23.017 --> 00:01:24.504 and taken our technology in plasma technology, 00:01:24.504 --> 00:01:29.914 which has to do with gravitational magnetic field of a system, 00:01:29.914 --> 00:01:32.449 into the Health section of the technology, 00:01:32.449 --> 00:01:37.933 and how we achieved so many different positive moves, 00:01:37.933 --> 00:01:42.224 and changing diseases, using the new plasma technology. 00:01:42.224 --> 00:01:45.100 For the first time, with this video 00:01:45.100 --> 00:01:49.446 we open our doors to the world population, 00:01:49.446 --> 00:01:53.084 to look and see how a simple technology 00:01:53.084 --> 00:01:55.252 has changed the life of a man. 00:01:55.252 --> 00:01:57.754 At the same time, with this video 00:01:57.754 --> 00:02:00.293 we are releasing a paper for the first time, 00:02:00.293 --> 00:02:03.952 from the Health aspects of the technology of the Foundation 00:02:03.952 --> 00:02:09.568 and for the first time we allow the world's scientific, 00:02:09.568 --> 00:02:13.353 and the world population, to have a glimpse 00:02:13.353 --> 00:02:15.301 into one of the most secret and guarded 00:02:15.301 --> 00:02:17.930 technologies of the Keshe Foundation. 00:02:17.930 --> 00:02:21.509 We are opening our doors in response to the peace talks 00:02:21.509 --> 00:02:25.325 which is taking place, and at the same time 00:02:25.325 --> 00:02:27.235 ensuring that there is new development, 00:02:27.235 --> 00:02:31.056 in Health, in Energy and in Space. 00:02:31.056 --> 00:02:34.650 So, with this video we would like to show 00:02:34.650 --> 00:02:38.369 how a life of a man who has been sentenced to death, 00:02:38.369 --> 00:02:40.063 literally, by being told 00:02:40.063 --> 00:02:43.571 that he has a disease called ALS, 00:02:43.571 --> 00:02:45.583 and how he has changed his life 00:02:45.583 --> 00:02:51.922 using the system, from March to September of 2013. 00:02:51.922 --> 00:02:53.980 Most of the videos you will see 00:02:53.980 --> 00:02:59.242 is being made by him, and at the same time 00:02:59.242 --> 00:03:01.778 made during the processes we had with him, 00:03:01.778 --> 00:03:05.232 during the system development. 00:03:05.232 --> 00:03:07.940 We see how a man who barely could walk 00:03:07.940 --> 00:03:11.839 now he goes to work in Rome and in Milan (city) 00:03:11.839 --> 00:03:16.234 and at the same time he has been given a second chance 00:03:16.234 --> 00:03:19.696 he is getting part of his movement back. 00:03:19.696 --> 00:03:25.220 ALS is a death sentence when it is given to you by a doctor. 00:03:25.220 --> 00:03:26.830 The only thing is 00:03:26.830 --> 00:03:29.851 we do not know the time when it will be carried out. 00:03:29.851 --> 00:03:33.178 You end up being paralysed, then you can not speak, 00:03:33.178 --> 00:03:37.121 and usually followed by suffocation and death. 00:03:37.121 --> 00:03:40.278 For the first time we have developed the technology 00:03:40.278 --> 00:03:44.907 to be able to monitor and reverse this process. 00:03:44.907 --> 00:03:51.591 This gentlemen is very tied up with this disease. 00:03:51.591 --> 00:03:53.539 He can not do much, 00:03:53.539 --> 00:03:55.482 but now he's getting control of his arm back. 00:03:55.482 --> 00:03:58.643 He's getting control of his feet back. 00:03:58.643 --> 00:04:02.286 He's getting control of his work, in a way, 00:04:02.286 --> 00:04:04.337 being able to go to his office back. 00:04:04.337 --> 00:04:10.173 He's joining the society in a slow but sure way. 00:04:10.173 --> 00:04:17.572 This video is to show (that) now there is a solution for ALS. 00:04:17.572 --> 00:04:19.644 This is one of the final cases 00:04:19.644 --> 00:04:21.745 after we developed different systems 00:04:21.745 --> 00:04:23.948 for this disease and M.S. 00:04:23.948 --> 00:04:26.286 And we can say with certainty: 00:04:26.286 --> 00:04:30.461 "There is a way out of this disease". 00:04:30.461 --> 00:04:32.984 We welcome anyone who would like 00:04:32.984 --> 00:04:35.908 to talk to us about this disease, 00:04:35.908 --> 00:04:39.061 be it themselves being affected by it, 00:04:39.061 --> 00:04:41.600 or you are a member of organization or association 00:04:41.600 --> 00:04:43.416 which is working with ALS. 00:04:43.416 --> 00:04:45.362 Or you are a pharmaceutical, 00:04:45.362 --> 00:04:47.050 and you want to develop this technology 00:04:47.050 --> 00:04:48.854 further for the world population. 00:04:48.854 --> 00:04:53.156 Our doors are open and we welcome you for cooperation. 00:04:53.156 --> 00:04:54.888 The same as what we did for our Energy, 00:04:54.888 --> 00:04:56.756 and for our Space, with governments. 00:04:56.756 --> 00:05:00.112 And same as what we did with our World Peace Treaty. 00:05:00.112 --> 00:05:03.931 If you want to talk, contact us. Please go to: 00:05:03.931 --> 00:05:06.681 als@keshefoundation.com 00:05:06.681 --> 00:05:10.522 which we especially opened this line for this disease. 00:05:10.522 --> 00:05:16.204 Fill in the form and we will respond. It is very easy. 00:05:16.204 --> 00:05:18.571 There should not be a death sentence 00:05:18.571 --> 00:05:21.387 once you are told you have ALS, 00:05:21.387 --> 00:05:24.118 for the majority of the ALS cases. 00:05:24.118 --> 00:05:30.316 We have not found the solution for all of the aspects of different types of ALS, 00:05:30.316 --> 00:05:33.180 but at least we have opened the doorway. 00:05:33.180 --> 00:05:35.679 WE WELCOME ANY HEALTH AUTHORITY OR ANY GOVERNMENT 00:05:35.679 --> 00:05:38.411 WHO WOULD LIKE TO LOOK INTO THIS DEVELOPMENT. 00:05:38.411 --> 00:05:41.856 OUR DOORS ARE OPEN TO YOU! We are not hiding anything, 00:05:41.856 --> 00:05:44.382 The same as we did not with our World Peace Treaty, 00:05:44.382 --> 00:05:47.363 and with our Energy, and the Space technology, 00:05:47.363 --> 00:05:50.330 We have shared them with the world population, 00:05:50.330 --> 00:05:52.110 now we're sharing our Health, 00:05:52.110 --> 00:05:54.597 directly with the world population. 00:05:54.597 --> 00:05:56.326 Watch the video, I hope you enjoy 00:05:56.326 --> 00:05:58.075 and take pleasure as much as we did, 00:05:58.075 --> 00:05:59.660 seeing how the life of a man has changed 00:05:59.660 --> 00:06:04.216 without even taking any medicine. Thank you. 00:06:04.216 --> 00:07:27.202 00:07:27.202 --> 00:07:34.808 Today is 8th of September, 2013. We are in Rome 00:07:34.808 --> 00:07:39.424 and the purpose of this recording is to show 00:07:39.424 --> 00:07:44.452 that the disease known as ALS or known as "DESMA" 00:07:44.452 --> 00:07:47.176 can be stopped and reversed. 00:07:47.176 --> 00:07:52.332 And today we have a gentleman with us is Mr. Max Vassan, 00:07:52.332 --> 00:07:55.570 who has been through this process since March of this year (2013), 00:07:55.570 --> 00:08:00.712 and this gives us a springboard to bring 00:08:00.712 --> 00:08:07.273 this technology from the health aspects in respect to ALS 00:08:07.273 --> 00:08:13.838 into the mainstream medical applications for the Foundation. 00:08:13.838 --> 00:08:17.340 And I would like to ask, if you want to introduce yourself, 00:08:17.340 --> 00:08:21.805 about who you are, and how long you have ALS. 00:08:21.805 --> 00:08:24.975 My name is Maximiliano Vassan 00:08:24.975 --> 00:08:29.213 and I had the diagnosis 00:08:29.213 --> 00:08:35.126 for ALS. I received 6 years ago, it was 2007, 00:08:35.126 --> 00:08:40.067 and I'm 44 years old now, I was 38 00:08:40.067 --> 00:08:48.050 when I received this bad news and... that's it. 00:08:48.050 --> 00:08:54.295 How has been your position before you started 00:08:54.295 --> 00:08:57.295 this process with the Foundation? 00:08:57.295 --> 00:09:04.605 The position was: I was closing. I was stopping 00:09:04.605 --> 00:09:10.588 my life, more or less, not willing to go out. 00:09:10.588 --> 00:09:15.588 Not willing to meet people so it was a... a total closure. 00:09:15.588 --> 00:09:18.717 So, not only from the physical point of view 00:09:18.717 --> 00:09:21.797 but from the psychological point of view. 00:09:21.797 --> 00:09:27.587 So it was a kind of hopeless life, 00:09:27.587 --> 00:09:34.167 more or less, without any big expectation for the future. 00:09:34.167 --> 00:09:40.759 What was your condition when you started 00:09:40.759 --> 00:09:43.687 this position, physically and mentally? 00:09:43.687 --> 00:09:46.669 Physically... let me say the biggest changes were not 00:09:46.669 --> 00:09:52.186 from physical side..umm, (rather) the psychological side. 00:09:52.186 --> 00:10:00.582 I was afraid... I was afraid to go out, 00:10:00.582 --> 00:10:03.257 to live a normal life. 00:10:03.257 --> 00:10:06.390 So I believed that staying at home 00:10:06.390 --> 00:10:11.093 I could... something could have happened, 00:10:11.093 --> 00:10:14.795 and maybe to heal to recover... 00:10:14.795 --> 00:10:18.730 but now I guess this was bad thinking, 00:10:18.730 --> 00:10:23.263 because at the end the message was not of life, 00:10:23.263 --> 00:10:27.514 it was a message of death, closed at home, 00:10:27.514 --> 00:10:30.211 not going out with family, son and so on. 00:10:30.211 --> 00:10:34.622 And in the past my physical condition was, 00:10:34.622 --> 00:10:39.231 better before in the years, I mean, 00:10:39.231 --> 00:10:43.451 but from the Psychological point of view I was really, really closed. 00:10:43.451 --> 00:10:45.939 This is completely changed now. 00:10:45.939 --> 00:10:49.546 So this is the biggest change 00:10:49.546 --> 00:10:51.828 from the psychological point of view. 00:10:51.878 --> 00:10:57.732 The physicality, the physicality , the first signal I got recently. 00:10:57.732 --> 00:11:02.078 The big signal one week ago, 00:11:02.078 --> 00:11:05.391 so part of the walking 00:11:05.391 --> 00:11:10.941 it is improved since we met five months ago. 00:11:10.941 --> 00:11:12.508 The rest is coming now, 00:11:12.508 --> 00:11:17.158 so it's first psychological point of view, 00:11:17.158 --> 00:11:23.518 these are most important, and then the physical now. 00:11:23.518 --> 00:11:25.936 When was the last time you came to Rome, 00:11:25.936 --> 00:11:28.522 where you worked, where you are going today? 00:11:28.522 --> 00:11:36.110 I was here nearly one year ago, and it was for a job, 00:11:36.110 --> 00:11:41.207 so I had to come for some professional situation. 00:11:41.207 --> 00:11:46.880 And then I say: "I am not meant to come here in the future". 00:11:46.880 --> 00:11:55.020 So wish was, "OK, maybe one day", but without really believing. 00:11:55.020 --> 00:11:59.923 So, now I'm here because... I'm here for no reasons, 00:11:59.923 --> 00:12:04.165 So, I'm here for a kind of holidays, let's put it. 00:12:04.165 --> 00:12:10.210 Because, I'm here because I want. 00:12:10.210 --> 00:12:14.820 So, before I had yet to come for a reason, 00:12:14.820 --> 00:12:19.856 now I'm here because I want. 00:12:19.856 --> 00:12:24.259 This life is slightly different, but internally is a big thing. 00:12:24.259 --> 00:12:29.146 When you were here last time, could you walk on your own? Or? 00:12:29.146 --> 00:12:35.252 No. Oh, maybe I could... but I didn't! 00:12:35.252 --> 00:12:39.259 So, I was walking hanging onto the shoulder of my wife. 00:12:39.259 --> 00:12:42.582 because I was completely insecure. 00:12:42.582 --> 00:12:51.775 I was afraid at that time one year ago to go out... towards a pain. 00:12:51.775 --> 00:12:59.495 it was pain... not being like physical pain, but it was really difficult. 00:12:59.495 --> 00:13:05.930 I was afraid to go outside for my condition. 00:13:05.930 --> 00:13:13.432 So part of it was related to the risk to fall down to hurt myself, 00:13:13.432 --> 00:13:19.664 but also the rest was to meet the people in this condition. 00:13:19.664 --> 00:13:24.080 So I felt really uncomfortable to go out. 00:13:24.080 --> 00:13:27.753 You started the process in March? Yes. 00:13:27.753 --> 00:13:34.354 When we saw you in the first meeting you could only walk 00:13:34.354 --> 00:13:38.293 with the help of your wife holding your shoulder? Yes, yes. 00:13:38.293 --> 00:13:43.099 At that time for me it was unthinkable to walk alone outside. 00:13:43.099 --> 00:13:47.971 I was doing that at home, but at home was easy. 00:13:47.971 --> 00:13:52.435 Outside, I completely needed the support of my wife 00:13:52.435 --> 00:13:58.304 to be sure, so it was a kind of "safe" for me. 00:13:58.304 --> 00:14:03.802 But now? Now? Now, every time she 00:14:03.802 --> 00:14:09.274 offers me the, not the shoulder but the arm, I say: 00:14:09.274 --> 00:14:15.312 "I don't want". So, I walk alone as much as I can. 00:14:15.312 --> 00:14:19.602 If I see any obstacles on the steps and so on, 00:14:19.602 --> 00:14:23.423 and I'm not gonna say, it's stupid, I don't want to fall down, 00:14:23.423 --> 00:14:29.088 so i ask for help, but only in the situation where I need it. 00:14:29.088 --> 00:14:32.080 You work at home upstairs? Yes. 00:14:32.080 --> 00:14:33.896 On the second floor? Yes. 00:14:33.896 --> 00:14:37.330 How has that situation changed there? 00:14:37.330 --> 00:14:40.764 00:14:40.764 --> 00:14:44.198 I have these steps... it is quite tough because the steps are high. 00:14:44.198 --> 00:14:47.027 This is kind of measurement for me. 00:14:47.027 --> 00:14:55.977 It means I can measure my carefulness everyday doing these steps. 00:14:55.977 --> 00:15:01.582 The situation I was used to when I started living in this house, 00:15:01.582 --> 00:15:05.925 it was OK... I was able to go without problem, 00:15:05.925 --> 00:15:10.820 but anything was worsening the situation, so more difficult. 00:15:10.820 --> 00:15:13.320 In the last month, even after the treatment 00:15:13.320 --> 00:15:20.749 I had kind of, let's say, changes in a situation, so not improving. 00:15:20.749 --> 00:15:29.494 Last week, as you know, was kind of a bad week where I reached the limit. 00:15:29.494 --> 00:15:33.785 It means immediately, I was not able to do these stairs. 00:15:33.785 --> 00:15:37.240 It was a kind of shock. I was afraid that day. 00:15:37.240 --> 00:15:46.470 But then I understood that it was only from the mental point of view, I was afraid! 00:15:46.470 --> 00:15:54.069 The week after, I mean last week, I had experienced a completely new situation. 00:15:54.069 --> 00:16:00.329 It means, everyday from Monday to Friday, I was stronger 00:16:00.329 --> 00:16:04.224 and lifting the arms stronger, but much stronger. 00:16:04.224 --> 00:16:08.234 And every day was better than the previous. 00:16:08.234 --> 00:16:11.587 This happened from Monday to Friday. 00:16:11.587 --> 00:16:17.564 This never happened in 6 years! Yes. 00:16:17.564 --> 00:16:21.931 So you have some control of your arms and walking? Yes. 00:16:21.931 --> 00:16:27.271 I started to have control on the right arm. 00:16:27.271 --> 00:16:31.779 On the left I can not lift so I'm very weak, 00:16:31.779 --> 00:16:37.060 but let's say I started very light control of shoulder. 00:16:37.060 --> 00:16:40.788 It means it's not enough to move to rise, 00:16:40.788 --> 00:16:48.103 but if I lie on the bed with arms, let's say on the high side, 00:16:48.103 --> 00:16:52.332 the left is going falling down because gravity so I cannot control. 00:16:52.332 --> 00:16:54.673 the right I can control a little bit. 00:16:54.673 --> 00:16:56.981 So I brake it when is falling down. 00:16:56.981 --> 00:16:59.209 This you couldn't do before? No. 00:16:59.209 --> 00:17:05.169 This I discover by chance same week of August last, 00:17:05.169 --> 00:17:12.827 because I was expecting during the movement this arm falling down 00:17:12.827 --> 00:17:16.419 and that, unconsciously, I was controlling. 00:17:16.419 --> 00:17:21.848 So, that's why I recognized there is something strange, it's not normal. 00:17:21.848 --> 00:17:30.720 And then after that day, this control stays up to present. 00:17:30.720 --> 00:17:36.143 Some days it is better, let's say, some days a little bit worse, 00:17:36.143 --> 00:17:41.404 but this control is present up to date. 00:17:41.404 --> 00:17:46.733 And you are walking? The walk you do? 00:17:46.733 --> 00:17:54.523 The walking is a tricky point, because, I improved. 00:17:54.523 --> 00:17:58.858 Because one year ago I was walking, only with my wife. 00:17:58.858 --> 00:18:02.501 Now I walk as much as I can alone, 00:18:02.501 --> 00:18:06.322 so I don't want a support. 00:18:06.322 --> 00:18:09.931 Some days I walk much better than others. 00:18:09.931 --> 00:18:15.026 I started to walk also on the ground and grass. 00:18:15.026 --> 00:18:22.929 I mean difficult paths, and this has changed. 00:18:22.929 --> 00:18:30.897 The problem of walking is that for me is it's so, let's say, 00:18:30.897 --> 00:18:39.525 minimal changes day by day that it's difficult for me to recognize the changes. 00:18:39.525 --> 00:18:47.519 So others told me: "Look, you are walking in a different way". 00:18:47.519 --> 00:18:51.181 So it was difficult for me to believe that I was walking differently. 00:18:51.181 --> 00:18:57.901 But looking at my first video, and remembering how I was walking one year ago. 00:18:57.901 --> 00:19:00.704 I must say I walk in a different way. 00:19:00.704 --> 00:19:06.525 So I compare to my previous situation when I was running and doing everything, 00:19:06.525 --> 00:19:09.791 so if you compare to this you are deluded, 00:19:09.791 --> 00:19:13.855 but compare to one year ago... now I'm walking! 00:19:13.855 --> 00:19:18.946 I don't have any big slant or big autonomy really, 00:19:18.946 --> 00:19:23.822 but walking is different for sure... and it's better. 00:19:23.822 --> 00:19:26.275 Your son made a comment about your walking? 00:19:26.275 --> 00:19:30.320 Yes, my son, my son, my own son... 00:19:30.320 --> 00:19:37.923 it was a day when I was supposed to be tired, the weekend tired. 00:19:37.923 --> 00:19:46.729 and I was feeling myself bad going after from the car, 00:19:46.729 --> 00:19:53.734 normally when I sit for a long time, I'm tired. 00:19:53.734 --> 00:19:58.078 I said OK, I need some time to sit up. 00:19:58.078 --> 00:20:05.885 And my son who was behind me said, and the sentence was like: 00:20:05.885 --> 00:20:13.794 "Dad, to be without muscles or to be a ill man, you walk fast!" 00:20:13.794 --> 00:20:17.765 I said: "Why? Why you said that?". 00:20:17.765 --> 00:20:21.055 So for me I was walking bad and slow, 00:20:21.055 --> 00:20:26.616 but, for my son I was walking fast. 00:20:26.616 --> 00:20:34.720 And my son see me every day. So my feeling was wrong. 00:20:34.720 --> 00:20:38.025 That's why I said it's difficult. 00:20:38.025 --> 00:20:42.601 For the walking the best effects 00:20:42.601 --> 00:20:51.700 I see from the others. The people was looking at me in one, two, three weeks, one month. 00:20:51.700 --> 00:20:57.656 For me it was the same, for people sometimes it is shock. 00:20:57.656 --> 00:21:04.848 Then I can't believe everybody is lying to me or so. 00:21:04.848 --> 00:21:08.675 That's why... the changes were so small, 00:21:08.675 --> 00:21:13.128 and alot of them sometimes for me it is difficult to believe. 00:21:13.128 --> 00:21:18.913 So I'm becoming used to the changes. 00:21:18.913 --> 00:21:25.137 But, yes, one year ago I was walking totally differently than now. 00:21:25.137 --> 00:21:32.531 Better? ... Better!! But then you started Interacting in society... 00:21:32.531 --> 00:21:35.970 Can you tell us what was that like? 00:21:35.970 --> 00:21:43.338 This was starting after a couple of months, 00:21:43.338 --> 00:21:48.178 Yes, after the start of the treatment. 00:21:48.178 --> 00:21:54.656 And this was the one of the most important changes and the first to come. 00:21:54.656 --> 00:21:57.833 So, the psychological point of view, as I told you. 00:21:57.833 --> 00:22:05.303 Before I was not simply willing to meet the people, 00:22:05.303 --> 00:22:11.451 friends, parents or people that are part of our life... 00:22:11.451 --> 00:22:18.200 simply taking children to school and so on and so on, and other families. 00:22:18.284 --> 00:22:21.674 As I told you I preferred staying at home, alone, 00:22:21.674 --> 00:22:27.432 and I feel safe. It was at home I feel safe. 00:22:27.432 --> 00:22:31.402 And my family can go out and enjoy and so on, 00:22:31.402 --> 00:22:35.358 but at the end this was not good. So I started it. 00:22:35.358 --> 00:22:40.448 How long did you do this for? ... Years. About 3, 4 years? 00:22:40.448 --> 00:22:49.964 Yes, go t on this. So I probably closed any intellectual activities 00:22:49.964 --> 00:22:53.610 because I felt uncomfortable doing these. 00:22:53.610 --> 00:22:56.537 So what happened? Then the first step... 00:22:56.537 --> 00:23:02.772 The beginning was kind of a challenge, a big conflict inside. 00:23:02.772 --> 00:23:08.846 So, I accepted to do something that I never did before. 00:23:08.846 --> 00:23:13.743 So to meet the people directly. 00:23:13.743 --> 00:23:19.196 For years I refused to meet in a specific situation: 00:23:19.196 --> 00:23:24.039 parties, or a dinner, or social events. 00:23:24.039 --> 00:23:33.803 The beginning was a big conflict, I do, I don't do, and so on. 00:23:33.803 --> 00:23:40.473 But I did it. Then, continued treatment and passing the time, 00:23:40.473 --> 00:23:48.974 the wish to meet the people, to go out, was stronger and stronger and stronger. 00:23:48.974 --> 00:23:55.316 So, from one social activity became two, three and four. 00:23:55.316 --> 00:24:06.222 And if before it was a pain, a fear about situation, about the reality, 00:24:06.222 --> 00:24:12.290 at the end, it became not. 00:24:12.290 --> 00:24:19.340 So, the fear was much weaker compared to the wish to go out. 00:24:19.340 --> 00:24:25.090 And I reached the point this summer, in August, 00:24:25.090 --> 00:24:30.756 that I met all these people without any, 00:24:30.756 --> 00:24:38.352 without care about what they could think about me, and so on. 00:24:38.352 --> 00:24:40.634 Can you tell us the situations? 00:24:40.634 --> 00:24:46.725 The situation was, it was middle of August, in Italy, 00:24:46.725 --> 00:24:53.290 and they invited some gentlemen of school company of my son, 00:24:53.290 --> 00:24:58.637 invited us in the countryside, for a BBQ. 00:24:58.637 --> 00:25:04.206 Countryside for me means immediately difficulties, 00:25:04.206 --> 00:25:07.572 and also their house, to reach the house, 00:25:07.572 --> 00:25:12.228 there are hundreds of steps and long houses' steps. 00:25:12.228 --> 00:25:15.023 For me in that moment it was impossible. 00:25:15.023 --> 00:25:19.017 But now in the rest of it, OK, let's walk at least, 00:25:19.017 --> 00:25:25.418 and I will see the situation, 00:25:25.418 --> 00:25:29.783 so, I said: "First, let's go there... and then let's see what happens". 00:25:29.783 --> 00:25:31.613 At the end, it was wonderful day. 00:25:31.613 --> 00:25:35.608 So, I was able to walk in spite of 00:25:35.608 --> 00:25:38.050 the ground... it was not easy. 00:25:38.050 --> 00:25:45.654 We spent the day between friends, eating, drinking, laughing. 00:25:45.654 --> 00:25:51.264 So, it was normal, very normal, the children were playing... 00:25:51.264 --> 00:25:56.373 So, I was very surprised. 00:25:56.373 --> 00:26:03.215 People doesn't care about me completely. 00:26:03.215 --> 00:26:06.290 So, after, let's say, a few minutes, 00:26:06.290 --> 00:26:12.536 I felt like normal. completely normal, in spite of all my difficulties. 00:26:12.536 --> 00:26:16.353 Would you have done this last year? 00:26:16.353 --> 00:26:28.132 No. All these social situation I have made since I started the treatment. 00:26:28.132 --> 00:26:30.529 I would have never done before. 00:26:30.529 --> 00:26:34.506 So you meet these situations personally. Yes. Yes. 00:26:34.506 --> 00:26:39.103 And, would you have done that? No. 00:26:39.103 --> 00:26:43.277 I avoided in the past, all these situations. 00:26:43.277 --> 00:26:46.254 An easy example: 00:26:46.254 --> 00:26:51.626 Every Friday, my son in summer time goes to summer camp. 00:26:51.626 --> 00:26:55.862 And they organise every Friday, at the end of the week, 00:26:55.862 --> 00:27:03.556 a small spectacle for the parents... they are going there since 3 years minimum. 00:27:03.556 --> 00:27:06.741 I never attended to any of this one. 00:27:06.741 --> 00:27:09.147 Because of your illness? Yes. 00:27:09.147 --> 00:27:17.834 But the funny thing is that in the past my physical situation was much better 00:27:17.834 --> 00:27:21.967 than now 2, 3 years ago, but I didn't know. 00:27:21.967 --> 00:27:28.761 Now I attended, I attended to all the spectacles, 00:27:28.761 --> 00:27:32.608 and I'm still alive, I enjoy. 00:27:32.608 --> 00:27:40.034 And the funny thing is that my son again, saying, told me: 00:27:40.034 --> 00:27:43.528 "Why you didn't attend in the past?" 00:27:43.528 --> 00:27:49.621 And I couldn't answer, because he said: 00:27:49.621 --> 00:27:54.304 "If you can come now when you are not in a wonderful situation, 00:27:54.304 --> 00:27:58.602 why you didn't come in the past, when you were much better?" 00:27:58.602 --> 00:28:01.179 I had no answer! 00:28:01.179 --> 00:28:03.336 When you see the first change? 00:28:03.336 --> 00:28:08.845 One week, two weeks, three weeks after you started? 00:28:08.845 --> 00:28:12.731 I think after some weeks let's say, between two. 00:28:12.731 --> 00:28:20.626 In the first answer, I started to see some psychological changes, 00:28:20.626 --> 00:28:24.471 yes, in one month more or less. 00:28:24.471 --> 00:28:30.114 What do you think the future holds for you now? 00:28:30.114 --> 00:28:37.723 First of all I started again to think of the future... which is a good point. 00:28:37.723 --> 00:28:49.044 Looking at these changes it seems to me that I started a new road, 00:28:49.044 --> 00:28:53.708 that I can not stop on, so, I tried to making the office, 00:28:53.708 --> 00:28:55.942 going out with friends and so on. 00:28:55.942 --> 00:29:02.024 And, I don't want to stop, 00:29:02.024 --> 00:29:08.760 So, my thinking now is that it was stupid, my behavior before. 00:29:08.760 --> 00:29:14.170 I am wondering why it was that way... 00:29:14.170 --> 00:29:20.000 now it seams strange what I did in the past. 00:29:20.000 --> 00:29:24.849 You've been back to your office in Milan, one month or four weeks ago? 00:29:24.849 --> 00:29:26.926 Yes, one month ago exactly. 00:29:26.926 --> 00:29:35.048 This office I opened, personally, 15 years ago. 00:29:35.048 --> 00:29:39.738 Then we changed the building but I never visited this office.. 00:29:39.738 --> 00:29:42.458 When was last time you were in there? 00:29:42.458 --> 00:29:45.456 In this building I've been never. 00:29:45.456 --> 00:29:54.762 I was in the previous building, but last time was 2008 I guess. 00:29:54.762 --> 00:30:02.626 I stopped to go to the office in Milan, also because I was working in Rome, 00:30:02.626 --> 00:30:07.567 so I stopped to go there, so it was very long time. 00:30:07.567 --> 00:30:12.879 This was a new office opened two years ago, and I've never been there. 00:30:12.879 --> 00:30:24.054 In August, it was the beginning of August, I was back to Milan meeting these guys and looking at the new office. 00:30:24.054 --> 00:30:34.058 It was very nice because, let's say, I left Milan many years ago. 00:30:34.058 --> 00:30:37.987 Strange thing was that, when I was there, even new office, 00:30:37.987 --> 00:30:46.423 I was feeling was like I was working there since forever. 00:30:46.423 --> 00:30:50.623 I had no bad feeling, oh my God, it's many years, 00:30:50.623 --> 00:30:53.590 that I'm not here, and people will look at me strange. 00:30:53.590 --> 00:30:56.860 I felt completely normal. 00:30:56.860 --> 00:30:58.912 Are you going back? 00:30:58.912 --> 00:31:00.784 Yes, in the end of this month. 00:31:00.784 --> 00:31:07.993 I already fixed it, and every month I'm going in the Milan office. 00:31:07.993 --> 00:31:12.919 Do you see yourself going back to work normal, in the future? 00:31:12.919 --> 00:31:15.408 This is without, doubt, absolutely. 00:31:15.408 --> 00:31:20.461 So today you are going to see your colleagues more or less for the first time? 00:31:20.461 --> 00:31:28.081 Yes, these colleagues in Rome that for nearly one year that I didn't meet, 00:31:28.081 --> 00:31:32.452 and they don't know anything about this... this treatment I'm doing. 00:31:32.452 --> 00:31:39.679 So, I kept reserved, only 2 or 3 people know, 00:31:39.679 --> 00:31:44.311 and even they don't know anything about that I'm here in this moment. 00:31:44.311 --> 00:31:50.794 So, we are going to the company, and it would be totally shocking to many people. 00:31:50.794 --> 00:31:54.992 So, I don't know the reaction that they will have. 00:31:54.992 --> 00:31:57.834 Are you coming back to work in Rome? 00:31:57.834 --> 00:32:00.597 Yes this is my target. 00:32:00.597 --> 00:32:04.578 One of the things which is important to understand 00:32:04.578 --> 00:32:08.264 by the work of research of Foundation, 00:32:08.264 --> 00:32:12.743 is we call ALS "the death wish that comes true", 00:32:12.743 --> 00:32:17.628 which means that psychologically, through certain reasons, 00:32:17.628 --> 00:32:24.590 the individual sets off a certain kind of process which terminates the life. 00:32:24.590 --> 00:32:28.289 This termination of life means they can 00:32:28.289 --> 00:32:35.842 escape from the problems of \what they are facing. 00:32:35.842 --> 00:32:38.860 Some people chose hanging by suicide. 00:32:38.860 --> 00:32:42.533 Some people choose different methods of ending life. 00:32:42.533 --> 00:32:47.623 But, ALS in fact is the same process, 00:32:47.623 --> 00:32:52.258 but starts with a process of psychological double trigger, 00:32:52.258 --> 00:32:55.250 of which we understand the process. 00:32:55.250 --> 00:33:01.185 And this psychological change, which then afterwards becomes a physical change... 00:33:01.185 --> 00:33:04.598 As we see the arm is coming back, and the walking has changed. 00:33:04.598 --> 00:33:07.546 It is the process of development 00:33:07.546 --> 00:33:11.991 of the psychological change in the understanding of that 00:33:11.991 --> 00:33:15.378 there is no reason to take such a step. 00:33:15.378 --> 00:33:19.321 They literally trigger the death code in the brain 00:33:19.321 --> 00:33:25.562 and the process as we see in Mr. Vassan, has started literally ten years ago. 00:33:25.562 --> 00:33:28.345 It is something which is not gradual. 00:33:28.345 --> 00:33:31.122 The first trigger comes at any stages of life, 00:33:31.122 --> 00:33:35.314 and the second trigger happens when the second crisis comes. 00:33:35.314 --> 00:33:39.332 And now we start understanding the process much better 00:33:39.332 --> 00:33:48.719 and we see, more or less, the start of the reversal limit and the physical disability changes. 00:33:48.719 --> 00:33:52.573 We have recorded the whole case from the beginning, 00:33:52.573 --> 00:33:56.790 so the steps... we see changes in walking, 00:33:56.790 --> 00:34:01.230 the drop foot has gone, the walking has changed, 00:34:01.230 --> 00:34:06.134 we see changes in the arms on small stages. 00:34:06.134 --> 00:34:11.895 So we today, we record the whole event, the process, by standards. 00:34:11.895 --> 00:34:17.121 We are not taking any steps, we've done the same thing in Milan. 00:34:17.121 --> 00:34:22.337 So, this is just for archives, and at the same time, 00:34:22.337 --> 00:34:27.589 to show to the ALS community that there is a solution, 00:34:27.589 --> 00:34:30.014 there is a new way to look at this disease, 00:34:30.014 --> 00:34:33.385 and nobody should die from this disease any more. 00:34:33.385 --> 00:34:38.520 I thank you for your time, and I hope we'll see a nice day today! 00:34:38.520 --> 00:34:42.025 Thank you. I hope, this is the target of today. 00:34:42.025 --> 00:34:44.737 Thank you. Thank you. 00:34:44.737 --> 00:34:54.619 00:34:54.619 --> 00:35:01.811 Due to restriction by the Company of the volunteer, all videos taken within 00:35:01.811 --> 00:35:06.923 the offices of the company has been blocked. The Foundation does not understand 00:35:06.923 --> 00:35:14.312 the purpose of this move in the celebrating the return of one of their workers back to work after years. 00:35:14.312 --> 00:35:20.655 But due to legal papers which we had to sign for the company three weeks after recordings 00:35:20.655 --> 00:35:25.667 we have to withhold the footage of these meetings, which was so wonderful, away from public. 00:35:25.667 --> 00:35:28.821 We hope one day commonsense will prevail and we all share 00:35:28.821 --> 00:35:32.434 these wonderful moments with each other and with the rest of the world. 00:35:32.434 --> 00:35:34.069 Today is 6th of October 2013, 00:35:34.069 --> 00:35:38.360 After the two surprise visits to my company, 00:35:38.360 --> 00:35:47.325 beginning of August in Milan office, and beginning of September in Rome office, 00:35:47.325 --> 00:35:50.113 I did it again, second time. 00:35:50.113 --> 00:35:59.162 And in both cases it was in general much easier, and much normal, the approach. 00:35:59.162 --> 00:36:08.908 So I had no big fears or worries to go there... simply a pleasure to live and 00:36:08.908 --> 00:36:14.332 to go out and meet people, the others, my colleagues. 00:36:14.332 --> 00:36:20.513 So, this was very nice. And even coming back, 00:36:20.513 --> 00:36:26.671 the thinking was to the next appointment, next meeting. 00:36:26.671 --> 00:36:31.386 So I decided with pleasure that, for example, I will go 00:36:31.386 --> 00:36:37.623 once a month in Milan office, if not more. OK? 00:36:37.623 --> 00:36:40.273 And also periodically to the Rome office. 00:36:40.273 --> 00:36:46.095 In this case, logistics is more difficult, so I have to organise better. 00:36:46.095 --> 00:36:51.510 But in general I noted that I'm thinking again 00:36:51.510 --> 00:36:56.169 in terms of the future, not past or present situation. 00:36:56.169 --> 00:37:04.961 All together, this result, what I achieved in the last couple of months, 00:37:04.961 --> 00:37:10.915 for me was really unthinkable only three months ago. So, I mean in June. 00:37:10.915 --> 00:37:16.784 This is unbelievable, unbelievable at this stage. 00:37:16.784 --> 00:37:25.937 In other nice discovery I made is that all this activity, what I did, what I'm doing, 00:37:25.937 --> 00:37:31.649 has an impact also on the others, for example, my colleagues. 00:37:31.649 --> 00:37:39.568 I learned that at the end they don't care about my physical situation. 00:37:39.568 --> 00:37:42.820 They are, of course, ready to help me... 00:37:42.820 --> 00:37:50.162 and they are sorry, but this is not the main point. They don't care about this. 00:37:50.162 --> 00:37:54.783 What really important seems to be my presence there 00:37:54.783 --> 00:38:01.006 for the fact that I move, I travel just to go there to meet them, 00:38:01.006 --> 00:38:05.401 and this is the important part, 00:38:05.401 --> 00:38:10.187 and it's different than what I thought, completely different! 00:38:10.187 --> 00:38:15.240 So, this awareness helps me again, 00:38:15.240 --> 00:38:21.986 because this reduce a lot the psychological part of this illness. 00:38:21.986 --> 00:38:25.944 This illness is composed of two parts, main parts... 00:38:25.944 --> 00:38:31.100 One is physical: the daily difficulty to do things, simply. 00:38:31.100 --> 00:38:36.922 The other part is psychological: this is the driver of the illness. 00:38:36.922 --> 00:38:41.480 And we can summarize in one word: it's "Fear"! 00:38:41.480 --> 00:38:50.913 Fear of the situation, fear of going out, fear of the others, what they could think and so on. 00:38:50.913 --> 00:38:55.841 Reducing the fear is the most powerful part 00:38:55.841 --> 00:38:59.430 and is, I think, an important step. 00:38:59.430 --> 00:39:05.887 Indeed the evidence of today is that despite my physical condition 00:39:05.903 --> 00:39:09.941 was much worse in the past, some years ago, 00:39:09.941 --> 00:39:17.315 I'm now doing things that I never did, I never wanted to do, 00:39:17.315 --> 00:39:22.526 even if when my physical condition was much better than now. 00:39:22.526 --> 00:39:29.529 This is really surprising me a lot, because it's nonsense, it's not logical... 00:39:29.529 --> 00:39:35.962 Now that I'm worst I'm doing more than when I was much better. 00:39:35.962 --> 00:39:40.308 Another achievement, nice thing, in the last month, 00:39:40.339 --> 00:39:43.713 was, from the physical point of view 00:39:43.728 --> 00:39:46.881 but it's linked to the psychological part, 00:39:46.881 --> 00:39:52.220 normally at the end of the day, late evening or at night time 00:39:52.220 --> 00:39:55.682 with very low energy, so really weak, 00:39:55.698 --> 00:39:58.875 and I have home stairs in my house 00:39:58.875 --> 00:40:04.776 that is quite tough to do... it's kind of challenge every time. 00:40:04.776 --> 00:40:09.459 Couple of times, I was able to did all set at night 00:40:09.474 --> 00:40:18.557 later with some efforts, but it's kind of very unusual thing to just go upstairs, 00:40:18.557 --> 00:40:21.819 and to spend some time with my children when they go to bed. 00:40:21.819 --> 00:40:28.449 So this was wonderful for me, wonderful for them, and a big achievement. 00:40:28.449 --> 00:40:39.203 So simply the wish to go upstairs. And all these facts together are, 00:40:39.218 --> 00:40:45.994 as I said before, quite surprising, about this evolution. 00:40:46.010 --> 00:40:54.286 Let's say, I feel positive, so these are positive feedback that helps a lot, 00:40:54.302 --> 00:41:05.346 and I hope this will continue also in the future. 00:41:05.376 --> 00:41:12.088 This story to be continued 00:41:12.088 --> 00:41:18.341 with future videos 00:41:18.341 --> 00:41:26.550 from this volunteer. 00:41:26.550 --> 00:41:37.027 00:41:37.043 --> 00:41:51.430 A L S - " Death wish that comes true" 00:41:51.430 --> 00:42:00.605 For the ALS technical document on a new approach, 00:42:00.605 --> 00:42:04.448 access: 00:42:04.448 --> 00:42:59.454 www.keshefoundation.org/latest-papers/download/5.html