1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,671 . 2 00:00:02,671 --> 00:00:08,742 Amyotrophic Lateral Sclerosis - Death wish that comes true 3 00:00:08,742 --> 00:00:13,625 ALS 4 00:00:17,692 --> 00:00:21,889 M.T.Keshe (2000-2013) - All rights reserved 5 00:00:21,889 --> 00:00:25,762 www.keshefoundation.org 6 00:00:25,762 --> 00:00:52,035 7 00:00:52,035 --> 00:00:53,737 Contact: als@keshefoundation.com 8 00:00:53,737 --> 00:00:56,959 9 00:00:56,959 --> 00:00:59,423 www.keshefoundation.org 10 00:00:59,423 --> 00:01:03,941 My name is Mehran Tavakoli Keshe, I´m a director of the Keshe Foundation. 11 00:01:03,941 --> 00:01:07,060 Keshe Foundation is a spaceship program 12 00:01:07,060 --> 00:01:09,249 which is involved in plasma technology, 13 00:01:09,249 --> 00:01:13,747 and it has proven through different aspects of its development 14 00:01:13,747 --> 00:01:16,264 that energy and motion can be made 15 00:01:16,264 --> 00:01:19,621 from plasma in a very simple way. 16 00:01:19,621 --> 00:01:23,017 For years we've been asked how we have developed 17 00:01:23,017 --> 00:01:24,504 and taken our technology in plasma technology, 18 00:01:24,504 --> 00:01:29,914 which has to do with gravitational magnetic field of a system, 19 00:01:29,914 --> 00:01:32,449 into the Health section of the technology, 20 00:01:32,449 --> 00:01:37,933 and how we achieved so many different positive moves, 21 00:01:37,933 --> 00:01:42,224 and changing diseases, using the new plasma technology. 22 00:01:42,224 --> 00:01:45,100 For the first time, with this video 23 00:01:45,100 --> 00:01:49,446 we open our doors to the world population, 24 00:01:49,446 --> 00:01:53,084 to look and see how a simple technology 25 00:01:53,084 --> 00:01:55,252 has changed the life of a man. 26 00:01:55,252 --> 00:01:57,754 At the same time, with this video 27 00:01:57,754 --> 00:02:00,293 we are releasing a paper for the first time, 28 00:02:00,293 --> 00:02:03,952 from the Health aspects of the technology of the Foundation 29 00:02:03,952 --> 00:02:09,568 and for the first time we allow the world's scientific, 30 00:02:09,568 --> 00:02:13,353 and the world population, to have a glimpse 31 00:02:13,353 --> 00:02:15,301 into one of the most secret and guarded 32 00:02:15,301 --> 00:02:17,930 technologies of the Keshe Foundation. 33 00:02:17,930 --> 00:02:21,509 We are opening our doors in response to the peace talks 34 00:02:21,509 --> 00:02:25,325 which is taking place, and at the same time 35 00:02:25,325 --> 00:02:27,235 ensuring that there is new development, 36 00:02:27,235 --> 00:02:31,056 in Health, in Energy and in Space. 37 00:02:31,056 --> 00:02:34,650 So, with this video we would like to show 38 00:02:34,650 --> 00:02:38,369 how a life of a man who has been sentenced to death, 39 00:02:38,369 --> 00:02:40,063 literally, by being told 40 00:02:40,063 --> 00:02:43,571 that he has a disease called ALS, 41 00:02:43,571 --> 00:02:45,583 and how he has changed his life 42 00:02:45,583 --> 00:02:51,922 using the system, from March to September of 2013. 43 00:02:51,922 --> 00:02:53,980 Most of the videos you will see 44 00:02:53,980 --> 00:02:59,242 is being made by him, and at the same time 45 00:02:59,242 --> 00:03:01,778 made during the processes we had with him, 46 00:03:01,778 --> 00:03:05,232 during the system development. 47 00:03:05,232 --> 00:03:07,940 We see how a man who barely could walk 48 00:03:07,940 --> 00:03:11,839 now he goes to work in Rome and in Milan (city) 49 00:03:11,839 --> 00:03:16,234 and at the same time he has been given a second chance 50 00:03:16,234 --> 00:03:19,696 he is getting part of his movement back. 51 00:03:19,696 --> 00:03:25,220 ALS is a death sentence when it is given to you by a doctor. 52 00:03:25,220 --> 00:03:26,830 The only thing is 53 00:03:26,830 --> 00:03:29,851 we do not know the time when it will be carried out. 54 00:03:29,851 --> 00:03:33,178 You end up being paralysed, then you can not speak, 55 00:03:33,178 --> 00:03:37,121 and usually followed by suffocation and death. 56 00:03:37,121 --> 00:03:40,278 For the first time we have developed the technology 57 00:03:40,278 --> 00:03:44,907 to be able to monitor and reverse this process. 58 00:03:44,907 --> 00:03:51,591 This gentlemen is very tied up with this disease. 59 00:03:51,591 --> 00:03:53,539 He can not do much, 60 00:03:53,539 --> 00:03:55,482 but now he's getting control of his arm back. 61 00:03:55,482 --> 00:03:58,643 He's getting control of his feet back. 62 00:03:58,643 --> 00:04:02,286 He's getting control of his work, in a way, 63 00:04:02,286 --> 00:04:04,337 being able to go to his office back. 64 00:04:04,337 --> 00:04:10,173 He's joining the society in a slow but sure way. 65 00:04:10,173 --> 00:04:17,572 This video is to show (that) now there is a solution for ALS. 66 00:04:17,572 --> 00:04:19,644 This is one of the final cases 67 00:04:19,644 --> 00:04:21,745 after we developed different systems 68 00:04:21,745 --> 00:04:23,948 for this disease and M.S. 69 00:04:23,948 --> 00:04:26,286 And we can say with certainty: 70 00:04:26,286 --> 00:04:30,461 "There is a way out of this disease". 71 00:04:30,461 --> 00:04:32,984 We welcome anyone who would like 72 00:04:32,984 --> 00:04:35,908 to talk to us about this disease, 73 00:04:35,908 --> 00:04:39,061 be it themselves being affected by it, 74 00:04:39,061 --> 00:04:41,600 or you are a member of organization or association 75 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:43,416 which is working with ALS. 76 00:04:43,416 --> 00:04:45,362 Or you are a pharmaceutical, 77 00:04:45,362 --> 00:04:47,050 and you want to develop this technology 78 00:04:47,050 --> 00:04:48,854 further for the world population. 79 00:04:48,854 --> 00:04:53,156 Our doors are open and we welcome you for cooperation. 80 00:04:53,156 --> 00:04:54,888 The same as what we did for our Energy, 81 00:04:54,888 --> 00:04:56,756 and for our Space, with governments. 82 00:04:56,756 --> 00:05:00,112 And same as what we did with our World Peace Treaty. 83 00:05:00,112 --> 00:05:03,931 If you want to talk, contact us. Please go to: 84 00:05:03,931 --> 00:05:06,681 als@keshefoundation.com 85 00:05:06,681 --> 00:05:10,522 which we especially opened this line for this disease. 86 00:05:10,522 --> 00:05:16,204 Fill in the form and we will respond. It is very easy. 87 00:05:16,204 --> 00:05:18,571 There should not be a death sentence 88 00:05:18,571 --> 00:05:21,387 once you are told you have ALS, 89 00:05:21,387 --> 00:05:24,118 for the majority of the ALS cases. 90 00:05:24,118 --> 00:05:30,316 We have not found the solution for all of the aspects of different types of ALS, 91 00:05:30,316 --> 00:05:33,180 but at least we have opened the doorway. 92 00:05:33,180 --> 00:05:35,679 WE WELCOME ANY HEALTH AUTHORITY OR ANY GOVERNMENT 93 00:05:35,679 --> 00:05:38,411 WHO WOULD LIKE TO LOOK INTO THIS DEVELOPMENT. 94 00:05:38,411 --> 00:05:41,856 OUR DOORS ARE OPEN TO YOU! We are not hiding anything, 95 00:05:41,856 --> 00:05:44,382 The same as we did not with our World Peace Treaty, 96 00:05:44,382 --> 00:05:47,363 and with our Energy, and the Space technology, 97 00:05:47,363 --> 00:05:50,330 We have shared them with the world population, 98 00:05:50,330 --> 00:05:52,110 now we're sharing our Health, 99 00:05:52,110 --> 00:05:54,597 directly with the world population. 100 00:05:54,597 --> 00:05:56,326 Watch the video, I hope you enjoy 101 00:05:56,326 --> 00:05:58,075 and take pleasure as much as we did, 102 00:05:58,075 --> 00:05:59,660 seeing how the life of a man has changed 103 00:05:59,660 --> 00:06:04,216 without even taking any medicine. Thank you. 104 00:06:04,216 --> 00:07:27,202 105 00:07:27,202 --> 00:07:34,808 Today is 8th of September, 2013. We are in Rome 106 00:07:34,808 --> 00:07:39,424 and the purpose of this recording is to show 107 00:07:39,424 --> 00:07:44,452 that the disease known as ALS or known as "DESMA" 108 00:07:44,452 --> 00:07:47,176 can be stopped and reversed. 109 00:07:47,176 --> 00:07:52,332 And today we have a gentleman with us is Mr. Max Vassan, 110 00:07:52,332 --> 00:07:55,570 who has been through this process since March of this year (2013), 111 00:07:55,570 --> 00:08:00,712 and this gives us a springboard to bring 112 00:08:00,712 --> 00:08:07,273 this technology from the health aspects in respect to ALS 113 00:08:07,273 --> 00:08:13,838 into the mainstream medical applications for the Foundation. 114 00:08:13,838 --> 00:08:17,340 And I would like to ask, if you want to introduce yourself, 115 00:08:17,340 --> 00:08:21,805 about who you are, and how long you have ALS. 116 00:08:21,805 --> 00:08:24,975 My name is Maximiliano Vassan 117 00:08:24,975 --> 00:08:29,213 and I had the diagnosis 118 00:08:29,213 --> 00:08:35,126 for ALS. I received 6 years ago, it was 2007, 119 00:08:35,126 --> 00:08:40,067 and I'm 44 years old now, I was 38 120 00:08:40,067 --> 00:08:48,050 when I received this bad news and... that's it. 121 00:08:48,050 --> 00:08:54,295 How has been your position before you started 122 00:08:54,295 --> 00:08:57,295 this process with the Foundation? 123 00:08:57,295 --> 00:09:04,605 The position was: I was closing. I was stopping 124 00:09:04,605 --> 00:09:10,588 my life, more or less, not willing to go out. 125 00:09:10,588 --> 00:09:15,588 Not willing to meet people so it was a... a total closure. 126 00:09:15,588 --> 00:09:18,717 So, not only from the physical point of view 127 00:09:18,717 --> 00:09:21,797 but from the psychological point of view. 128 00:09:21,797 --> 00:09:27,587 So it was a kind of hopeless life, 129 00:09:27,587 --> 00:09:34,167 more or less, without any big expectation for the future. 130 00:09:34,167 --> 00:09:40,759 What was your condition when you started 131 00:09:40,759 --> 00:09:43,687 this position, physically and mentally? 132 00:09:43,687 --> 00:09:46,669 Physically... let me say the biggest changes were not 133 00:09:46,669 --> 00:09:52,186 from physical side..umm, (rather) the psychological side. 134 00:09:52,186 --> 00:10:00,582 I was afraid... I was afraid to go out, 135 00:10:00,582 --> 00:10:03,257 to live a normal life. 136 00:10:03,257 --> 00:10:06,390 So I believed that staying at home 137 00:10:06,390 --> 00:10:11,093 I could... something could have happened, 138 00:10:11,093 --> 00:10:14,795 and maybe to heal to recover... 139 00:10:14,795 --> 00:10:18,730 but now I guess this was bad thinking, 140 00:10:18,730 --> 00:10:23,263 because at the end the message was not of life, 141 00:10:23,263 --> 00:10:27,514 it was a message of death, closed at home, 142 00:10:27,514 --> 00:10:30,211 not going out with family, son and so on. 143 00:10:30,211 --> 00:10:34,622 And in the past my physical condition was, 144 00:10:34,622 --> 00:10:39,231 better before in the years, I mean, 145 00:10:39,231 --> 00:10:43,451 but from the Psychological point of view I was really, really closed. 146 00:10:43,451 --> 00:10:45,939 This is completely changed now. 147 00:10:45,939 --> 00:10:49,546 So this is the biggest change 148 00:10:49,546 --> 00:10:51,828 from the psychological point of view. 149 00:10:51,878 --> 00:10:57,732 The physicality, the physicality , the first signal I got recently. 150 00:10:57,732 --> 00:11:02,078 The big signal one week ago, 151 00:11:02,078 --> 00:11:05,391 so part of the walking 152 00:11:05,391 --> 00:11:10,941 it is improved since we met five months ago. 153 00:11:10,941 --> 00:11:12,508 The rest is coming now, 154 00:11:12,508 --> 00:11:17,158 so it's first psychological point of view, 155 00:11:17,158 --> 00:11:23,518 these are most important, and then the physical now. 156 00:11:23,518 --> 00:11:25,936 When was the last time you came to Rome, 157 00:11:25,936 --> 00:11:28,522 where you worked, where you are going today? 158 00:11:28,522 --> 00:11:36,110 I was here nearly one year ago, and it was for a job, 159 00:11:36,110 --> 00:11:41,207 so I had to come for some professional situation. 160 00:11:41,207 --> 00:11:46,880 And then I say: "I am not meant to come here in the future". 161 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:55,020 So wish was, "OK, maybe one day", but without really believing. 162 00:11:55,020 --> 00:11:59,923 So, now I'm here because... I'm here for no reasons, 163 00:11:59,923 --> 00:12:04,165 So, I'm here for a kind of holidays, let's put it. 164 00:12:04,165 --> 00:12:10,210 Because, I'm here because I want. 165 00:12:10,210 --> 00:12:14,820 So, before I had yet to come for a reason, 166 00:12:14,820 --> 00:12:19,856 now I'm here because I want. 167 00:12:19,856 --> 00:12:24,259 This life is slightly different, but internally is a big thing. 168 00:12:24,259 --> 00:12:29,146 When you were here last time, could you walk on your own? Or? 169 00:12:29,146 --> 00:12:35,252 No. Oh, maybe I could... but I didn't! 170 00:12:35,252 --> 00:12:39,259 So, I was walking hanging onto the shoulder of my wife. 171 00:12:39,259 --> 00:12:42,582 because I was completely insecure. 172 00:12:42,582 --> 00:12:51,775 I was afraid at that time one year ago to go out... towards a pain. 173 00:12:51,775 --> 00:12:59,495 it was pain... not being like physical pain, but it was really difficult. 174 00:12:59,495 --> 00:13:05,930 I was afraid to go outside for my condition. 175 00:13:05,930 --> 00:13:13,432 So part of it was related to the risk to fall down to hurt myself, 176 00:13:13,432 --> 00:13:19,664 but also the rest was to meet the people in this condition. 177 00:13:19,664 --> 00:13:24,080 So I felt really uncomfortable to go out. 178 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:27,753 You started the process in March? Yes. 179 00:13:27,753 --> 00:13:34,354 When we saw you in the first meeting you could only walk 180 00:13:34,354 --> 00:13:38,293 with the help of your wife holding your shoulder? Yes, yes. 181 00:13:38,293 --> 00:13:43,099 At that time for me it was unthinkable to walk alone outside. 182 00:13:43,099 --> 00:13:47,971 I was doing that at home, but at home was easy. 183 00:13:47,971 --> 00:13:52,435 Outside, I completely needed the support of my wife 184 00:13:52,435 --> 00:13:58,304 to be sure, so it was a kind of "safe" for me. 185 00:13:58,304 --> 00:14:03,802 But now? Now? Now, every time she 186 00:14:03,802 --> 00:14:09,274 offers me the, not the shoulder but the arm, I say: 187 00:14:09,274 --> 00:14:15,312 "I don't want". So, I walk alone as much as I can. 188 00:14:15,312 --> 00:14:19,602 If I see any obstacles on the steps and so on, 189 00:14:19,602 --> 00:14:23,423 and I'm not gonna say, it's stupid, I don't want to fall down, 190 00:14:23,423 --> 00:14:29,088 so i ask for help, but only in the situation where I need it. 191 00:14:29,088 --> 00:14:32,080 You work at home upstairs? Yes. 192 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:33,896 On the second floor? Yes. 193 00:14:33,896 --> 00:14:37,330 How has that situation changed there? 194 00:14:37,330 --> 00:14:40,764 195 00:14:40,764 --> 00:14:44,198 I have these steps... it is quite tough because the steps are high. 196 00:14:44,198 --> 00:14:47,027 This is kind of measurement for me. 197 00:14:47,027 --> 00:14:55,977 It means I can measure my carefulness everyday doing these steps. 198 00:14:55,977 --> 00:15:01,582 The situation I was used to when I started living in this house, 199 00:15:01,582 --> 00:15:05,925 it was OK... I was able to go without problem, 200 00:15:05,925 --> 00:15:10,820 but anything was worsening the situation, so more difficult. 201 00:15:10,820 --> 00:15:13,320 In the last month, even after the treatment 202 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:20,749 I had kind of, let's say, changes in a situation, so not improving. 203 00:15:20,749 --> 00:15:29,494 Last week, as you know, was kind of a bad week where I reached the limit. 204 00:15:29,494 --> 00:15:33,785 It means immediately, I was not able to do these stairs. 205 00:15:33,785 --> 00:15:37,240 It was a kind of shock. I was afraid that day. 206 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:46,470 But then I understood that it was only from the mental point of view, I was afraid! 207 00:15:46,470 --> 00:15:54,069 The week after, I mean last week, I had experienced a completely new situation. 208 00:15:54,069 --> 00:16:00,329 It means, everyday from Monday to Friday, I was stronger 209 00:16:00,329 --> 00:16:04,224 and lifting the arms stronger, but much stronger. 210 00:16:04,224 --> 00:16:08,234 And every day was better than the previous. 211 00:16:08,234 --> 00:16:11,587 This happened from Monday to Friday. 212 00:16:11,587 --> 00:16:17,564 This never happened in 6 years! Yes. 213 00:16:17,564 --> 00:16:21,931 So you have some control of your arms and walking? Yes. 214 00:16:21,931 --> 00:16:27,271 I started to have control on the right arm. 215 00:16:27,271 --> 00:16:31,779 On the left I can not lift so I'm very weak, 216 00:16:31,779 --> 00:16:37,060 but let's say I started very light control of shoulder. 217 00:16:37,060 --> 00:16:40,788 It means it's not enough to move to rise, 218 00:16:40,788 --> 00:16:48,103 but if I lie on the bed with arms, let's say on the high side, 219 00:16:48,103 --> 00:16:52,332 the left is going falling down because gravity so I cannot control. 220 00:16:52,332 --> 00:16:54,673 the right I can control a little bit. 221 00:16:54,673 --> 00:16:56,981 So I brake it when is falling down. 222 00:16:56,981 --> 00:16:59,209 This you couldn't do before? No. 223 00:16:59,209 --> 00:17:05,169 This I discover by chance same week of August last, 224 00:17:05,169 --> 00:17:12,827 because I was expecting during the movement this arm falling down 225 00:17:12,827 --> 00:17:16,419 and that, unconsciously, I was controlling. 226 00:17:16,419 --> 00:17:21,848 So, that's why I recognized there is something strange, it's not normal. 227 00:17:21,848 --> 00:17:30,720 And then after that day, this control stays up to present. 228 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:36,143 Some days it is better, let's say, some days a little bit worse, 229 00:17:36,143 --> 00:17:41,404 but this control is present up to date. 230 00:17:41,404 --> 00:17:46,733 And you are walking? The walk you do? 231 00:17:46,733 --> 00:17:54,523 The walking is a tricky point, because, I improved. 232 00:17:54,523 --> 00:17:58,858 Because one year ago I was walking, only with my wife. 233 00:17:58,858 --> 00:18:02,501 Now I walk as much as I can alone, 234 00:18:02,501 --> 00:18:06,322 so I don't want a support. 235 00:18:06,322 --> 00:18:09,931 Some days I walk much better than others. 236 00:18:09,931 --> 00:18:15,026 I started to walk also on the ground and grass. 237 00:18:15,026 --> 00:18:22,929 I mean difficult paths, and this has changed. 238 00:18:22,929 --> 00:18:30,897 The problem of walking is that for me is it's so, let's say, 239 00:18:30,897 --> 00:18:39,525 minimal changes day by day that it's difficult for me to recognize the changes. 240 00:18:39,525 --> 00:18:47,519 So others told me: "Look, you are walking in a different way". 241 00:18:47,519 --> 00:18:51,181 So it was difficult for me to believe that I was walking differently. 242 00:18:51,181 --> 00:18:57,901 But looking at my first video, and remembering how I was walking one year ago. 243 00:18:57,901 --> 00:19:00,704 I must say I walk in a different way. 244 00:19:00,704 --> 00:19:06,525 So I compare to my previous situation when I was running and doing everything, 245 00:19:06,525 --> 00:19:09,791 so if you compare to this you are deluded, 246 00:19:09,791 --> 00:19:13,855 but compare to one year ago... now I'm walking! 247 00:19:13,855 --> 00:19:18,946 I don't have any big slant or big autonomy really, 248 00:19:18,946 --> 00:19:23,822 but walking is different for sure... and it's better. 249 00:19:23,822 --> 00:19:26,275 Your son made a comment about your walking? 250 00:19:26,275 --> 00:19:30,320 Yes, my son, my son, my own son... 251 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:37,923 it was a day when I was supposed to be tired, the weekend tired. 252 00:19:37,923 --> 00:19:46,729 and I was feeling myself bad going after from the car, 253 00:19:46,729 --> 00:19:53,734 normally when I sit for a long time, I'm tired. 254 00:19:53,734 --> 00:19:58,078 I said OK, I need some time to sit up. 255 00:19:58,078 --> 00:20:05,885 And my son who was behind me said, and the sentence was like: 256 00:20:05,885 --> 00:20:13,794 "Dad, to be without muscles or to be a ill man, you walk fast!" 257 00:20:13,794 --> 00:20:17,765 I said: "Why? Why you said that?". 258 00:20:17,765 --> 00:20:21,055 So for me I was walking bad and slow, 259 00:20:21,055 --> 00:20:26,616 but, for my son I was walking fast. 260 00:20:26,616 --> 00:20:34,720 And my son see me every day. So my feeling was wrong. 261 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:38,025 That's why I said it's difficult. 262 00:20:38,025 --> 00:20:42,601 For the walking the best effects 263 00:20:42,601 --> 00:20:51,700 I see from the others. The people was looking at me in one, two, three weeks, one month. 264 00:20:51,700 --> 00:20:57,656 For me it was the same, for people sometimes it is shock. 265 00:20:57,656 --> 00:21:04,848 Then I can't believe everybody is lying to me or so. 266 00:21:04,848 --> 00:21:08,675 That's why... the changes were so small, 267 00:21:08,675 --> 00:21:13,128 and alot of them sometimes for me it is difficult to believe. 268 00:21:13,128 --> 00:21:18,913 So I'm becoming used to the changes. 269 00:21:18,913 --> 00:21:25,137 But, yes, one year ago I was walking totally differently than now. 270 00:21:25,137 --> 00:21:32,531 Better? ... Better!! But then you started Interacting in society... 271 00:21:32,531 --> 00:21:35,970 Can you tell us what was that like? 272 00:21:35,970 --> 00:21:43,338 This was starting after a couple of months, 273 00:21:43,338 --> 00:21:48,178 Yes, after the start of the treatment. 274 00:21:48,178 --> 00:21:54,656 And this was the one of the most important changes and the first to come. 275 00:21:54,656 --> 00:21:57,833 So, the psychological point of view, as I told you. 276 00:21:57,833 --> 00:22:05,303 Before I was not simply willing to meet the people, 277 00:22:05,303 --> 00:22:11,451 friends, parents or people that are part of our life... 278 00:22:11,451 --> 00:22:18,200 simply taking children to school and so on and so on, and other families. 279 00:22:18,284 --> 00:22:21,674 As I told you I preferred staying at home, alone, 280 00:22:21,674 --> 00:22:27,432 and I feel safe. It was at home I feel safe. 281 00:22:27,432 --> 00:22:31,402 And my family can go out and enjoy and so on, 282 00:22:31,402 --> 00:22:35,358 but at the end this was not good. So I started it. 283 00:22:35,358 --> 00:22:40,448 How long did you do this for? ... Years. About 3, 4 years? 284 00:22:40,448 --> 00:22:49,964 Yes, go t on this. So I probably closed any intellectual activities 285 00:22:49,964 --> 00:22:53,610 because I felt uncomfortable doing these. 286 00:22:53,610 --> 00:22:56,537 So what happened? Then the first step... 287 00:22:56,537 --> 00:23:02,772 The beginning was kind of a challenge, a big conflict inside. 288 00:23:02,772 --> 00:23:08,846 So, I accepted to do something that I never did before. 289 00:23:08,846 --> 00:23:13,743 So to meet the people directly. 290 00:23:13,743 --> 00:23:19,196 For years I refused to meet in a specific situation: 291 00:23:19,196 --> 00:23:24,039 parties, or a dinner, or social events. 292 00:23:24,039 --> 00:23:33,803 The beginning was a big conflict, I do, I don't do, and so on. 293 00:23:33,803 --> 00:23:40,473 But I did it. Then, continued treatment and passing the time, 294 00:23:40,473 --> 00:23:48,974 the wish to meet the people, to go out, was stronger and stronger and stronger. 295 00:23:48,974 --> 00:23:55,316 So, from one social activity became two, three and four. 296 00:23:55,316 --> 00:24:06,222 And if before it was a pain, a fear about situation, about the reality, 297 00:24:06,222 --> 00:24:12,290 at the end, it became not. 298 00:24:12,290 --> 00:24:19,340 So, the fear was much weaker compared to the wish to go out. 299 00:24:19,340 --> 00:24:25,090 And I reached the point this summer, in August, 300 00:24:25,090 --> 00:24:30,756 that I met all these people without any, 301 00:24:30,756 --> 00:24:38,352 without care about what they could think about me, and so on. 302 00:24:38,352 --> 00:24:40,634 Can you tell us the situations? 303 00:24:40,634 --> 00:24:46,725 The situation was, it was middle of August, in Italy, 304 00:24:46,725 --> 00:24:53,290 and they invited some gentlemen of school company of my son, 305 00:24:53,290 --> 00:24:58,637 invited us in the countryside, for a BBQ. 306 00:24:58,637 --> 00:25:04,206 Countryside for me means immediately difficulties, 307 00:25:04,206 --> 00:25:07,572 and also their house, to reach the house, 308 00:25:07,572 --> 00:25:12,228 there are hundreds of steps and long houses' steps. 309 00:25:12,228 --> 00:25:15,023 For me in that moment it was impossible. 310 00:25:15,023 --> 00:25:19,017 But now in the rest of it, OK, let's walk at least, 311 00:25:19,017 --> 00:25:25,418 and I will see the situation, 312 00:25:25,418 --> 00:25:29,783 so, I said: "First, let's go there... and then let's see what happens". 313 00:25:29,783 --> 00:25:31,613 At the end, it was wonderful day. 314 00:25:31,613 --> 00:25:35,608 So, I was able to walk in spite of 315 00:25:35,608 --> 00:25:38,050 the ground... it was not easy. 316 00:25:38,050 --> 00:25:45,654 We spent the day between friends, eating, drinking, laughing. 317 00:25:45,654 --> 00:25:51,264 So, it was normal, very normal, the children were playing... 318 00:25:51,264 --> 00:25:56,373 So, I was very surprised. 319 00:25:56,373 --> 00:26:03,215 People doesn't care about me completely. 320 00:26:03,215 --> 00:26:06,290 So, after, let's say, a few minutes, 321 00:26:06,290 --> 00:26:12,536 I felt like normal. completely normal, in spite of all my difficulties. 322 00:26:12,536 --> 00:26:16,353 Would you have done this last year? 323 00:26:16,353 --> 00:26:28,132 No. All these social situation I have made since I started the treatment. 324 00:26:28,132 --> 00:26:30,529 I would have never done before. 325 00:26:30,529 --> 00:26:34,506 So you meet these situations personally. Yes. Yes. 326 00:26:34,506 --> 00:26:39,103 And, would you have done that? No. 327 00:26:39,103 --> 00:26:43,277 I avoided in the past, all these situations. 328 00:26:43,277 --> 00:26:46,254 An easy example: 329 00:26:46,254 --> 00:26:51,626 Every Friday, my son in summer time goes to summer camp. 330 00:26:51,626 --> 00:26:55,862 And they organise every Friday, at the end of the week, 331 00:26:55,862 --> 00:27:03,556 a small spectacle for the parents... they are going there since 3 years minimum. 332 00:27:03,556 --> 00:27:06,741 I never attended to any of this one. 333 00:27:06,741 --> 00:27:09,147 Because of your illness? Yes. 334 00:27:09,147 --> 00:27:17,834 But the funny thing is that in the past my physical situation was much better 335 00:27:17,834 --> 00:27:21,967 than now 2, 3 years ago, but I didn't know. 336 00:27:21,967 --> 00:27:28,761 Now I attended, I attended to all the spectacles, 337 00:27:28,761 --> 00:27:32,608 and I'm still alive, I enjoy. 338 00:27:32,608 --> 00:27:40,034 And the funny thing is that my son again, saying, told me: 339 00:27:40,034 --> 00:27:43,528 "Why you didn't attend in the past?" 340 00:27:43,528 --> 00:27:49,621 And I couldn't answer, because he said: 341 00:27:49,621 --> 00:27:54,304 "If you can come now when you are not in a wonderful situation, 342 00:27:54,304 --> 00:27:58,602 why you didn't come in the past, when you were much better?" 343 00:27:58,602 --> 00:28:01,179 I had no answer! 344 00:28:01,179 --> 00:28:03,336 When you see the first change? 345 00:28:03,336 --> 00:28:08,845 One week, two weeks, three weeks after you started? 346 00:28:08,845 --> 00:28:12,731 I think after some weeks let's say, between two. 347 00:28:12,731 --> 00:28:20,626 In the first answer, I started to see some psychological changes, 348 00:28:20,626 --> 00:28:24,471 yes, in one month more or less. 349 00:28:24,471 --> 00:28:30,114 What do you think the future holds for you now? 350 00:28:30,114 --> 00:28:37,723 First of all I started again to think of the future... which is a good point. 351 00:28:37,723 --> 00:28:49,044 Looking at these changes it seems to me that I started a new road, 352 00:28:49,044 --> 00:28:53,708 that I can not stop on, so, I tried to making the office, 353 00:28:53,708 --> 00:28:55,942 going out with friends and so on. 354 00:28:55,942 --> 00:29:02,024 And, I don't want to stop, 355 00:29:02,024 --> 00:29:08,760 So, my thinking now is that it was stupid, my behavior before. 356 00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:14,170 I am wondering why it was that way... 357 00:29:14,170 --> 00:29:20,000 now it seams strange what I did in the past. 358 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:24,849 You've been back to your office in Milan, one month or four weeks ago? 359 00:29:24,849 --> 00:29:26,926 Yes, one month ago exactly. 360 00:29:26,926 --> 00:29:35,048 This office I opened, personally, 15 years ago. 361 00:29:35,048 --> 00:29:39,738 Then we changed the building but I never visited this office.. 362 00:29:39,738 --> 00:29:42,458 When was last time you were in there? 363 00:29:42,458 --> 00:29:45,456 In this building I've been never. 364 00:29:45,456 --> 00:29:54,762 I was in the previous building, but last time was 2008 I guess. 365 00:29:54,762 --> 00:30:02,626 I stopped to go to the office in Milan, also because I was working in Rome, 366 00:30:02,626 --> 00:30:07,567 so I stopped to go there, so it was very long time. 367 00:30:07,567 --> 00:30:12,879 This was a new office opened two years ago, and I've never been there. 368 00:30:12,879 --> 00:30:24,054 In August, it was the beginning of August, I was back to Milan meeting these guys and looking at the new office. 369 00:30:24,054 --> 00:30:34,058 It was very nice because, let's say, I left Milan many years ago. 370 00:30:34,058 --> 00:30:37,987 Strange thing was that, when I was there, even new office, 371 00:30:37,987 --> 00:30:46,423 I was feeling was like I was working there since forever. 372 00:30:46,423 --> 00:30:50,623 I had no bad feeling, oh my God, it's many years, 373 00:30:50,623 --> 00:30:53,590 that I'm not here, and people will look at me strange. 374 00:30:53,590 --> 00:30:56,860 I felt completely normal. 375 00:30:56,860 --> 00:30:58,912 Are you going back? 376 00:30:58,912 --> 00:31:00,784 Yes, in the end of this month. 377 00:31:00,784 --> 00:31:07,993 I already fixed it, and every month I'm going in the Milan office. 378 00:31:07,993 --> 00:31:12,919 Do you see yourself going back to work normal, in the future? 379 00:31:12,919 --> 00:31:15,408 This is without, doubt, absolutely. 380 00:31:15,408 --> 00:31:20,461 So today you are going to see your colleagues more or less for the first time? 381 00:31:20,461 --> 00:31:28,081 Yes, these colleagues in Rome that for nearly one year that I didn't meet, 382 00:31:28,081 --> 00:31:32,452 and they don't know anything about this... this treatment I'm doing. 383 00:31:32,452 --> 00:31:39,679 So, I kept reserved, only 2 or 3 people know, 384 00:31:39,679 --> 00:31:44,311 and even they don't know anything about that I'm here in this moment. 385 00:31:44,311 --> 00:31:50,794 So, we are going to the company, and it would be totally shocking to many people. 386 00:31:50,794 --> 00:31:54,992 So, I don't know the reaction that they will have. 387 00:31:54,992 --> 00:31:57,834 Are you coming back to work in Rome? 388 00:31:57,834 --> 00:32:00,597 Yes this is my target. 389 00:32:00,597 --> 00:32:04,578 One of the things which is important to understand 390 00:32:04,578 --> 00:32:08,264 by the work of research of Foundation, 391 00:32:08,264 --> 00:32:12,743 is we call ALS "the death wish that comes true", 392 00:32:12,743 --> 00:32:17,628 which means that psychologically, through certain reasons, 393 00:32:17,628 --> 00:32:24,590 the individual sets off a certain kind of process which terminates the life. 394 00:32:24,590 --> 00:32:28,289 This termination of life means they can 395 00:32:28,289 --> 00:32:35,842 escape from the problems of \what they are facing. 396 00:32:35,842 --> 00:32:38,860 Some people chose hanging by suicide. 397 00:32:38,860 --> 00:32:42,533 Some people choose different methods of ending life. 398 00:32:42,533 --> 00:32:47,623 But, ALS in fact is the same process, 399 00:32:47,623 --> 00:32:52,258 but starts with a process of psychological double trigger, 400 00:32:52,258 --> 00:32:55,250 of which we understand the process. 401 00:32:55,250 --> 00:33:01,185 And this psychological change, which then afterwards becomes a physical change... 402 00:33:01,185 --> 00:33:04,598 As we see the arm is coming back, and the walking has changed. 403 00:33:04,598 --> 00:33:07,546 It is the process of development 404 00:33:07,546 --> 00:33:11,991 of the psychological change in the understanding of that 405 00:33:11,991 --> 00:33:15,378 there is no reason to take such a step. 406 00:33:15,378 --> 00:33:19,321 They literally trigger the death code in the brain 407 00:33:19,321 --> 00:33:25,562 and the process as we see in Mr. Vassan, has started literally ten years ago. 408 00:33:25,562 --> 00:33:28,345 It is something which is not gradual. 409 00:33:28,345 --> 00:33:31,122 The first trigger comes at any stages of life, 410 00:33:31,122 --> 00:33:35,314 and the second trigger happens when the second crisis comes. 411 00:33:35,314 --> 00:33:39,332 And now we start understanding the process much better 412 00:33:39,332 --> 00:33:48,719 and we see, more or less, the start of the reversal limit and the physical disability changes. 413 00:33:48,719 --> 00:33:52,573 We have recorded the whole case from the beginning, 414 00:33:52,573 --> 00:33:56,790 so the steps... we see changes in walking, 415 00:33:56,790 --> 00:34:01,230 the drop foot has gone, the walking has changed, 416 00:34:01,230 --> 00:34:06,134 we see changes in the arms on small stages. 417 00:34:06,134 --> 00:34:11,895 So we today, we record the whole event, the process, by standards. 418 00:34:11,895 --> 00:34:17,121 We are not taking any steps, we've done the same thing in Milan. 419 00:34:17,121 --> 00:34:22,337 So, this is just for archives, and at the same time, 420 00:34:22,337 --> 00:34:27,589 to show to the ALS community that there is a solution, 421 00:34:27,589 --> 00:34:30,014 there is a new way to look at this disease, 422 00:34:30,014 --> 00:34:33,385 and nobody should die from this disease any more. 423 00:34:33,385 --> 00:34:38,520 I thank you for your time, and I hope we'll see a nice day today! 424 00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:42,025 Thank you. I hope, this is the target of today. 425 00:34:42,025 --> 00:34:44,737 Thank you. Thank you. 426 00:34:44,737 --> 00:34:54,619 427 00:34:54,619 --> 00:35:01,811 Due to restriction by the Company of the volunteer, all videos taken within 428 00:35:01,811 --> 00:35:06,923 the offices of the company has been blocked. The Foundation does not understand 429 00:35:06,923 --> 00:35:14,312 the purpose of this move in the celebrating the return of one of their workers back to work after years. 430 00:35:14,312 --> 00:35:20,655 But due to legal papers which we had to sign for the company three weeks after recordings 431 00:35:20,655 --> 00:35:25,667 we have to withhold the footage of these meetings, which was so wonderful, away from public. 432 00:35:25,667 --> 00:35:28,821 We hope one day commonsense will prevail and we all share 433 00:35:28,821 --> 00:35:32,434 these wonderful moments with each other and with the rest of the world. 434 00:35:32,434 --> 00:35:34,069 Today is 6th of October 2013, 435 00:35:34,069 --> 00:35:38,360 After the two surprise visits to my company, 436 00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:47,325 beginning of August in Milan office, and beginning of September in Rome office, 437 00:35:47,325 --> 00:35:50,113 I did it again, second time. 438 00:35:50,113 --> 00:35:59,162 And in both cases it was in general much easier, and much normal, the approach. 439 00:35:59,162 --> 00:36:08,908 So I had no big fears or worries to go there... simply a pleasure to live and 440 00:36:08,908 --> 00:36:14,332 to go out and meet people, the others, my colleagues. 441 00:36:14,332 --> 00:36:20,513 So, this was very nice. And even coming back, 442 00:36:20,513 --> 00:36:26,671 the thinking was to the next appointment, next meeting. 443 00:36:26,671 --> 00:36:31,386 So I decided with pleasure that, for example, I will go 444 00:36:31,386 --> 00:36:37,623 once a month in Milan office, if not more. OK? 445 00:36:37,623 --> 00:36:40,273 And also periodically to the Rome office. 446 00:36:40,273 --> 00:36:46,095 In this case, logistics is more difficult, so I have to organise better. 447 00:36:46,095 --> 00:36:51,510 But in general I noted that I'm thinking again 448 00:36:51,510 --> 00:36:56,169 in terms of the future, not past or present situation. 449 00:36:56,169 --> 00:37:04,961 All together, this result, what I achieved in the last couple of months, 450 00:37:04,961 --> 00:37:10,915 for me was really unthinkable only three months ago. So, I mean in June. 451 00:37:10,915 --> 00:37:16,784 This is unbelievable, unbelievable at this stage. 452 00:37:16,784 --> 00:37:25,937 In other nice discovery I made is that all this activity, what I did, what I'm doing, 453 00:37:25,937 --> 00:37:31,649 has an impact also on the others, for example, my colleagues. 454 00:37:31,649 --> 00:37:39,568 I learned that at the end they don't care about my physical situation. 455 00:37:39,568 --> 00:37:42,820 They are, of course, ready to help me... 456 00:37:42,820 --> 00:37:50,162 and they are sorry, but this is not the main point. They don't care about this. 457 00:37:50,162 --> 00:37:54,783 What really important seems to be my presence there 458 00:37:54,783 --> 00:38:01,006 for the fact that I move, I travel just to go there to meet them, 459 00:38:01,006 --> 00:38:05,401 and this is the important part, 460 00:38:05,401 --> 00:38:10,187 and it's different than what I thought, completely different! 461 00:38:10,187 --> 00:38:15,240 So, this awareness helps me again, 462 00:38:15,240 --> 00:38:21,986 because this reduce a lot the psychological part of this illness. 463 00:38:21,986 --> 00:38:25,944 This illness is composed of two parts, main parts... 464 00:38:25,944 --> 00:38:31,100 One is physical: the daily difficulty to do things, simply. 465 00:38:31,100 --> 00:38:36,922 The other part is psychological: this is the driver of the illness. 466 00:38:36,922 --> 00:38:41,480 And we can summarize in one word: it's "Fear"! 467 00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:50,913 Fear of the situation, fear of going out, fear of the others, what they could think and so on. 468 00:38:50,913 --> 00:38:55,841 Reducing the fear is the most powerful part 469 00:38:55,841 --> 00:38:59,430 and is, I think, an important step. 470 00:38:59,430 --> 00:39:05,887 Indeed the evidence of today is that despite my physical condition 471 00:39:05,903 --> 00:39:09,941 was much worse in the past, some years ago, 472 00:39:09,941 --> 00:39:17,315 I'm now doing things that I never did, I never wanted to do, 473 00:39:17,315 --> 00:39:22,526 even if when my physical condition was much better than now. 474 00:39:22,526 --> 00:39:29,529 This is really surprising me a lot, because it's nonsense, it's not logical... 475 00:39:29,529 --> 00:39:35,962 Now that I'm worst I'm doing more than when I was much better. 476 00:39:35,962 --> 00:39:40,308 Another achievement, nice thing, in the last month, 477 00:39:40,339 --> 00:39:43,713 was, from the physical point of view 478 00:39:43,728 --> 00:39:46,881 but it's linked to the psychological part, 479 00:39:46,881 --> 00:39:52,220 normally at the end of the day, late evening or at night time 480 00:39:52,220 --> 00:39:55,682 with very low energy, so really weak, 481 00:39:55,698 --> 00:39:58,875 and I have home stairs in my house 482 00:39:58,875 --> 00:40:04,776 that is quite tough to do... it's kind of challenge every time. 483 00:40:04,776 --> 00:40:09,459 Couple of times, I was able to did all set at night 484 00:40:09,474 --> 00:40:18,557 later with some efforts, but it's kind of very unusual thing to just go upstairs, 485 00:40:18,557 --> 00:40:21,819 and to spend some time with my children when they go to bed. 486 00:40:21,819 --> 00:40:28,449 So this was wonderful for me, wonderful for them, and a big achievement. 487 00:40:28,449 --> 00:40:39,203 So simply the wish to go upstairs. And all these facts together are, 488 00:40:39,218 --> 00:40:45,994 as I said before, quite surprising, about this evolution. 489 00:40:46,010 --> 00:40:54,286 Let's say, I feel positive, so these are positive feedback that helps a lot, 490 00:40:54,302 --> 00:41:05,346 and I hope this will continue also in the future. 491 00:41:05,376 --> 00:41:12,088 This story to be continued 492 00:41:12,088 --> 00:41:18,341 with future videos 493 00:41:18,341 --> 00:41:26,550 from this volunteer. 494 00:41:26,550 --> 00:41:37,027 495 00:41:37,043 --> 00:41:51,430 A L S - " Death wish that comes true" 496 00:41:51,430 --> 00:42:00,605 For the ALS technical document on a new approach, 497 00:42:00,605 --> 00:42:04,448 access: 498 00:42:04,448 --> 00:42:59,454 www.keshefoundation.org/latest-papers/download/5.html