1 00:00:01,651 --> 00:00:06,039 Ebony Roberts: I remember watching my father raise the pistol 2 00:00:06,063 --> 00:00:07,330 to my mother's head. 3 00:00:08,079 --> 00:00:11,642 She pleaded with him to put the gun down, 4 00:00:11,666 --> 00:00:12,933 but he ignored her. 5 00:00:14,513 --> 00:00:18,133 When she bolted toward the door, he followed close behind 6 00:00:18,157 --> 00:00:21,926 and once outside, he fired one single shot. 7 00:00:22,966 --> 00:00:24,116 I was 12. 8 00:00:24,982 --> 00:00:27,895 I remember this moment frame by frame. 9 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:30,458 I remember feeling numb. 10 00:00:31,164 --> 00:00:33,410 I remember feeling alone. 11 00:00:34,974 --> 00:00:37,164 Thank God, the bullet missed her, 12 00:00:37,188 --> 00:00:39,564 but my family would never be the same. 13 00:00:40,485 --> 00:00:42,580 I would never be the same. 14 00:00:44,088 --> 00:00:46,744 I didn't know then all the ways 15 00:00:46,768 --> 00:00:50,858 that my parents's on-again off-again relationship would impact me 16 00:00:50,882 --> 00:00:53,683 but I knew I didn't want a love like theirs. 17 00:00:54,224 --> 00:00:56,287 My story would be different. 18 00:00:57,264 --> 00:01:00,339 Years later, when I met you, 19 00:01:00,363 --> 00:01:02,172 I fell madly in love. 20 00:01:02,498 --> 00:01:04,847 Our connection was undeniable. 21 00:01:05,220 --> 00:01:08,263 It was as if you had been hand-picked just for me. 22 00:01:09,544 --> 00:01:11,877 I thought we'd be together forever. 23 00:01:12,187 --> 00:01:15,448 But we struggled with some of the same issues my parents had, 24 00:01:15,472 --> 00:01:17,813 and after nearly nine years together, 25 00:01:17,837 --> 00:01:19,104 we called it quits. 26 00:01:19,973 --> 00:01:21,433 We had Sekou then. 27 00:01:22,021 --> 00:01:23,306 He was only three. 28 00:01:23,886 --> 00:01:27,338 Though he was too young to really understand what was going on, 29 00:01:27,362 --> 00:01:28,800 he was old enough to know 30 00:01:28,824 --> 00:01:30,045 that mommy and daddy 31 00:01:30,069 --> 00:01:32,740 were not going to be living in the same house anymore. 32 00:01:33,736 --> 00:01:35,869 Our break up hit me really hard. 33 00:01:40,359 --> 00:01:42,018 But I decided 34 00:01:42,042 --> 00:01:46,779 I wouldn't let my broken heart get in the way of what was best for Sekou. 35 00:01:47,613 --> 00:01:50,466 We struggled initially, trying to navigate this new space 36 00:01:50,490 --> 00:01:51,720 as coparents. 37 00:01:53,530 --> 00:01:55,490 I asked myself, 38 00:01:55,514 --> 00:02:00,363 how do we raise this beautiful boy full of wonder and promise 39 00:02:00,387 --> 00:02:01,918 and so much power, 40 00:02:01,942 --> 00:02:03,953 in spite of our failures as a couple? 41 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:07,388 The answer for me was simple. 42 00:02:08,746 --> 00:02:10,397 I could either choose fear, 43 00:02:10,421 --> 00:02:11,984 fear of being alone, 44 00:02:12,008 --> 00:02:14,085 fear of the unknown, 45 00:02:14,109 --> 00:02:15,259 or choose love. 46 00:02:15,688 --> 00:02:17,132 And I chose love. 47 00:02:17,776 --> 00:02:20,909 That means seeing the good in you as a father. 48 00:02:21,631 --> 00:02:24,440 It means seeing the good in you as a father 49 00:02:24,464 --> 00:02:26,972 and not your missteps as a partner. 50 00:02:26,996 --> 00:02:29,694 It means putting Sekou first every time, 51 00:02:29,718 --> 00:02:31,789 even if it means I don't get my way. 52 00:02:33,068 --> 00:02:36,695 I know my parents went back and forth 53 00:02:36,719 --> 00:02:40,907 trying to work things out for my brother and I's sake. 54 00:02:42,092 --> 00:02:43,879 Though I appreciate their effort, 55 00:02:43,903 --> 00:02:45,169 I wish they hadn't. 56 00:02:45,482 --> 00:02:48,122 I saw too much, I heard too much. 57 00:02:48,673 --> 00:02:52,144 I knew I didn't want that to be Sekou's story. 58 00:02:52,810 --> 00:02:54,550 I wanted Sekou to know 59 00:02:54,574 --> 00:02:57,724 what it was like to see two parents who got along, 60 00:02:57,748 --> 00:03:00,636 two parents who worked together as a team. 61 00:03:00,660 --> 00:03:01,949 I wanted him to know 62 00:03:01,973 --> 00:03:04,640 what love looks like in its truest form. 63 00:03:06,466 --> 00:03:09,871 Love is patient, love is kind 64 00:03:09,895 --> 00:03:12,950 love does not anger easily, 65 00:03:12,974 --> 00:03:14,680 it keeps no wrongs. 66 00:03:15,387 --> 00:03:18,743 Love always protects, 67 00:03:18,767 --> 00:03:22,664 always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres. 68 00:03:25,736 --> 00:03:27,536 Shaka Senghor: It was 1983. 69 00:03:28,683 --> 00:03:30,278 I was 11 years old. 70 00:03:31,421 --> 00:03:35,008 I remember being in a basement with my father, 71 00:03:35,032 --> 00:03:37,247 in our home on the east side of Detroit. 72 00:03:37,927 --> 00:03:41,053 I watched him stuff albums 73 00:03:41,077 --> 00:03:44,672 into the blue and orange milk crates, 74 00:03:44,696 --> 00:03:46,896 as tears [unclear] from his eyes. 75 00:03:48,258 --> 00:03:50,390 Just before that, 76 00:03:51,608 --> 00:03:53,497 him and my mother 77 00:03:54,672 --> 00:03:57,521 had just sat me and my siblings down 78 00:03:57,545 --> 00:03:59,681 and told us that they were calling it quits. 79 00:04:01,190 --> 00:04:02,808 Thirty years later, 80 00:04:03,857 --> 00:04:06,491 I found myself with tears in my eyes, 81 00:04:06,515 --> 00:04:09,625 as I packed my belongings in our home. 82 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:13,459 Ebony and I met 83 00:04:15,348 --> 00:04:18,481 while I was serving a 19-year prison sentence. 84 00:04:20,079 --> 00:04:21,577 For four years, 85 00:04:21,601 --> 00:04:26,244 we used letters, phone calls and visits 86 00:04:26,268 --> 00:04:30,351 to build what we imagined to be an unshakeable bond. 87 00:04:31,606 --> 00:04:34,114 We fought the system together, 88 00:04:34,138 --> 00:04:38,240 and we thought that we would be able to right the wrongs of our parents. 89 00:04:39,315 --> 00:04:41,149 She was a poet, 90 00:04:41,173 --> 00:04:43,069 I was a writer. 91 00:04:43,093 --> 00:04:45,767 She was gorgeous, with a PhD. 92 00:04:46,533 --> 00:04:48,358 I was handsome, 93 00:04:48,382 --> 00:04:49,625 with a GED. 94 00:04:49,649 --> 00:04:53,180 (Laughter) 95 00:04:53,974 --> 00:04:56,021 We built something magical. 96 00:04:56,704 --> 00:04:59,206 We built something that we thought would endure. 97 00:04:59,919 --> 00:05:01,782 But unfortunately, 98 00:05:01,806 --> 00:05:05,370 our relationship became unhinged when I was released from prison. 99 00:05:06,101 --> 00:05:09,418 Post-traumatic stress syndrome, 100 00:05:10,180 --> 00:05:12,926 trauma from prior to going to prison, 101 00:05:14,513 --> 00:05:16,807 baggage from her relationship, 102 00:05:16,831 --> 00:05:19,722 my inexperience in a relationship, 103 00:05:19,746 --> 00:05:24,158 undid the magic of what we built behind the walls. 104 00:05:26,293 --> 00:05:28,283 Centered in all of that 105 00:05:29,109 --> 00:05:30,576 was our beautiful boy. 106 00:05:32,236 --> 00:05:34,714 I remember when we first brought Sekou home. 107 00:05:35,744 --> 00:05:37,426 It was so exciting, it was amazing, 108 00:05:37,450 --> 00:05:39,268 we worked together, we collaborated, 109 00:05:39,292 --> 00:05:40,625 we supported each other. 110 00:05:40,649 --> 00:05:43,786 You took the night shift, I took the morning shift. 111 00:05:44,318 --> 00:05:46,080 And it was going amazing. 112 00:05:47,652 --> 00:05:49,252 And then it all changed. 113 00:05:50,985 --> 00:05:54,263 It changed the morning that you came in really excited, you was like, 114 00:05:54,287 --> 00:05:55,855 "Hey, I'm going back to work! 115 00:05:56,387 --> 00:05:57,886 Aren't you excited?" 116 00:05:58,911 --> 00:06:02,212 And I was like, "Yes, I am ecstatic right now. 117 00:06:02,236 --> 00:06:03,531 (Laughter) 118 00:06:03,555 --> 00:06:05,421 I cannot be more delighted." 119 00:06:07,284 --> 00:06:09,569 But inside, I was really afraid. 120 00:06:10,483 --> 00:06:12,083 But I couldn't tell you that. 121 00:06:13,361 --> 00:06:14,629 So instead, I said, 122 00:06:14,653 --> 00:06:16,869 "Hey, go off and have a wonderful day." 123 00:06:20,417 --> 00:06:22,330 And you left, 124 00:06:22,354 --> 00:06:24,087 and I was left with Sekou. 125 00:06:26,285 --> 00:06:28,491 What I understand now about that moment 126 00:06:28,515 --> 00:06:30,880 is that we were fostering a trust 127 00:06:30,904 --> 00:06:34,132 that's necessary for parents to coexist. 128 00:06:35,141 --> 00:06:38,339 And that you were trusting me with our most precious gift. 129 00:06:39,394 --> 00:06:43,663 And that you were building the foundation and the blocks for what's important 130 00:06:43,687 --> 00:06:46,434 for this portal we call parenthood. 131 00:06:48,379 --> 00:06:52,514 ER: Knowing how our parents's break ups impacted us, 132 00:06:52,538 --> 00:06:54,974 you know, we were sensitive about how our break up 133 00:06:54,998 --> 00:06:56,402 would impact Sekou. 134 00:06:59,256 --> 00:07:01,120 We struggled, 135 00:07:01,144 --> 00:07:02,544 but we found our way. 136 00:07:04,192 --> 00:07:05,882 And let Sekou tell it, 137 00:07:05,906 --> 00:07:08,172 we're the best parents in the world. 138 00:07:08,196 --> 00:07:10,593 I love that he sees us that way. 139 00:07:10,617 --> 00:07:12,776 We made a choice in the beginning 140 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:16,249 to coparent as allies and not adversaries. 141 00:07:17,004 --> 00:07:19,107 To break the toxic pattern 142 00:07:19,131 --> 00:07:21,940 that we see play out over and over again 143 00:07:21,964 --> 00:07:25,805 when parents lose focus on what's most important, 144 00:07:25,829 --> 00:07:26,980 the children. 145 00:07:27,004 --> 00:07:29,704 They allow their relationship pain to get in the way. 146 00:07:30,149 --> 00:07:32,609 But at the end of the day, we're on the same team, 147 00:07:32,633 --> 00:07:34,427 and that's Sekou's team. 148 00:07:35,742 --> 00:07:37,432 You know, I have to admit, 149 00:07:37,456 --> 00:07:39,321 we have an unconventional relationship, 150 00:07:39,345 --> 00:07:41,774 a lot of people don't understand. 151 00:07:41,798 --> 00:07:44,622 We're not perfect as parents or people. 152 00:07:45,331 --> 00:07:48,124 But we honor each other's role in Sekou's life. 153 00:07:49,530 --> 00:07:51,755 We allow him to do things 154 00:07:51,779 --> 00:07:54,115 that our parents would never allow us to do. 155 00:07:54,878 --> 00:07:58,672 We don't allow our fears to put limits on him. 156 00:07:59,761 --> 00:08:03,181 We nurture his natural curiosity about the universe 157 00:08:03,205 --> 00:08:05,189 and his relationship to the world. 158 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:09,014 Remember that time when we were coming in from a long day at work, 159 00:08:09,038 --> 00:08:12,515 and Sekou found a puddle outside, 160 00:08:12,539 --> 00:08:14,008 a puddle of mud, mind you, 161 00:08:14,032 --> 00:08:17,602 had a brand new fresh outfit on, Levi's from head to toe. 162 00:08:18,101 --> 00:08:21,641 And he found this puddle of mud and he reached for it. 163 00:08:21,665 --> 00:08:23,506 And he wanted to touch the muddy earth 164 00:08:23,530 --> 00:08:25,086 and we allowed him to do that. 165 00:08:25,110 --> 00:08:28,228 We resisted the urge to say no, 166 00:08:28,252 --> 00:08:30,155 and in fact, went and got him a shovel, 167 00:08:30,179 --> 00:08:32,337 and allowed him to feel the earth's properties 168 00:08:32,361 --> 00:08:34,766 and explore as much as he wanted to, and he played, 169 00:08:34,790 --> 00:08:36,663 and was as happy as a pig in mud. 170 00:08:36,687 --> 00:08:37,687 (Laughter) 171 00:08:37,734 --> 00:08:40,387 We realized that the outfit could be washed, 172 00:08:40,411 --> 00:08:43,006 that a bath would clean up all the dirt, 173 00:08:43,030 --> 00:08:45,840 but the thrill of being in the moment, 174 00:08:45,864 --> 00:08:47,030 of being able to touch 175 00:08:47,054 --> 00:08:51,204 and be amazed at this thing that he had never discovered before 176 00:08:51,228 --> 00:08:55,402 was more valuable than the clothes or the dirt that could be washed away. 177 00:08:56,811 --> 00:09:00,732 We continued to rethink what is right and wrong 178 00:09:00,756 --> 00:09:02,398 when it comes to parenting. 179 00:09:02,827 --> 00:09:05,144 Sekou challenges us every day. 180 00:09:05,807 --> 00:09:09,944 You know, we allow him to climb on couches 181 00:09:09,968 --> 00:09:13,522 and draw on his clothes and his shoes, 182 00:09:13,546 --> 00:09:16,926 let him run around the store -- well, I do, anyway. 183 00:09:17,899 --> 00:09:21,990 And I get the death stares from other mamas who look at me 184 00:09:22,014 --> 00:09:25,926 and who think that children should be quiet and well-behaved in public. 185 00:09:25,950 --> 00:09:28,787 I also get those questions that are really judgments, 186 00:09:28,811 --> 00:09:30,994 but I don't pay them any mind. 187 00:09:31,018 --> 00:09:32,764 Because at the end of the day, 188 00:09:32,788 --> 00:09:37,700 our job is to guide Sekou on this journey of life, 189 00:09:37,724 --> 00:09:38,991 not to control him. 190 00:09:39,664 --> 00:09:43,331 We're here to help him figure out his place in the world, 191 00:09:43,355 --> 00:09:46,604 to uncover his greatest gifts, 192 00:09:46,628 --> 00:09:48,684 to discover why he was born. 193 00:09:49,355 --> 00:09:51,307 We are raising a free black boy 194 00:09:51,331 --> 00:09:53,680 in a world that despises black joy, 195 00:09:53,704 --> 00:09:57,241 and we refuse to put limits on him that the world already has. 196 00:10:00,091 --> 00:10:03,329 SS: Our parenting can be seen as an allegory 197 00:10:03,353 --> 00:10:06,087 for this two-sided coin of possibilities. 198 00:10:06,726 --> 00:10:08,378 On one side, 199 00:10:09,260 --> 00:10:12,696 the reality of raising a black boy in a society 200 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:16,712 [unclear] the black boys, black bodies and black lives 201 00:10:16,736 --> 00:10:20,229 only seen as profitable or disposable. 202 00:10:21,523 --> 00:10:23,388 And then there's the other side. 203 00:10:24,285 --> 00:10:27,253 Possibility of two parents who are no longer together, 204 00:10:27,277 --> 00:10:30,203 coexisting, supporting each other, 205 00:10:30,227 --> 00:10:33,395 loving each other, showing affection publicly, 206 00:10:33,419 --> 00:10:36,338 in a way that honors the relationship with our son. 207 00:10:38,357 --> 00:10:39,952 And even more importantly 208 00:10:39,976 --> 00:10:43,269 is the power to support each other in all those vulnerable moments. 209 00:10:43,627 --> 00:10:45,714 There was this one time, 210 00:10:45,738 --> 00:10:48,776 that it was my day to go pick up Sekou, you remember that time? 211 00:10:49,578 --> 00:10:52,355 I go pick Sekou up, he's at first grade, 212 00:10:52,379 --> 00:10:53,633 and as I'm walking up, 213 00:10:53,657 --> 00:10:56,831 another parent walks up and says, "Hey, Shaka. 214 00:10:57,205 --> 00:10:59,721 I saw Oprah Winfrey give a shout out to you 215 00:10:59,745 --> 00:11:01,275 on CNN last night. 216 00:11:02,244 --> 00:11:05,093 She was superexcited, exuberant even." 217 00:11:06,101 --> 00:11:07,553 I was mortified. 218 00:11:08,315 --> 00:11:12,474 Because I thought, what's going to happen when she tells another parent 219 00:11:12,498 --> 00:11:14,299 and they tell another parent, 220 00:11:14,323 --> 00:11:16,514 and then they go and look me up, 221 00:11:16,538 --> 00:11:17,720 and then they discover 222 00:11:17,744 --> 00:11:20,394 that I was in prison for second-degree murder. 223 00:11:20,418 --> 00:11:22,641 And then their child hears about it. 224 00:11:22,665 --> 00:11:26,340 And they come to school and they say to Sekou, 225 00:11:26,364 --> 00:11:29,062 "Your dad was convicted of murdering someone." 226 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:34,015 And I remember, as watching Sekou race out, 227 00:11:34,039 --> 00:11:36,439 and I knew that I had to call Ebony. 228 00:11:37,129 --> 00:11:40,479 When I called her, explained to her what happened, 229 00:11:40,503 --> 00:11:43,003 Ebony said, "You have to have the talk." 230 00:11:44,003 --> 00:11:46,519 So I took Sekou home, 231 00:11:46,543 --> 00:11:48,580 got him ready for bed, 232 00:11:48,604 --> 00:11:50,671 and we talked for half an hour. 233 00:11:51,823 --> 00:11:54,486 I talked to him about why I went to prison. 234 00:11:54,510 --> 00:11:56,820 And I listened to his feedback. 235 00:11:56,844 --> 00:11:59,867 And then we called his mom so we can do our nightly ritual 236 00:11:59,891 --> 00:12:02,463 of her offering prayer 237 00:12:02,487 --> 00:12:04,553 and then me doing affirmations. 238 00:12:05,157 --> 00:12:07,490 And I remember holding him tightly. 239 00:12:08,355 --> 00:12:11,918 And I realized the importance of the affirmations that we do at night. 240 00:12:11,942 --> 00:12:15,251 And I see them as a road map, as a guide, 241 00:12:15,275 --> 00:12:20,038 as a touchstone for other parents to protect 242 00:12:20,062 --> 00:12:22,426 and to empower their children, 243 00:12:22,450 --> 00:12:25,401 especially in a world where it's very difficult. 244 00:12:26,165 --> 00:12:29,506 For us, coparenting is so much more 245 00:12:29,530 --> 00:12:32,228 than scheduling pick-up and drop-off, 246 00:12:32,252 --> 00:12:34,053 play dates, 247 00:12:34,077 --> 00:12:37,188 deciding what he's going to wear, what he's going to eat. 248 00:12:37,212 --> 00:12:40,220 For us, it's about helping each other carry the weight, 249 00:12:40,244 --> 00:12:42,045 unpack the load, 250 00:12:42,069 --> 00:12:46,299 and to show up in the world in a way that honors the beauty 251 00:12:46,323 --> 00:12:47,473 of our son. 252 00:12:48,149 --> 00:12:51,129 And it's for these reasons that we do affirmations. 253 00:12:52,478 --> 00:12:54,898 ER: We never though we'd be here. 254 00:12:54,922 --> 00:12:56,072 But here we are. 255 00:12:56,446 --> 00:12:59,970 And we hope that the way that we show up for Sekou 256 00:12:59,994 --> 00:13:01,299 and for each other 257 00:13:01,323 --> 00:13:04,823 is a model of what successful coparenting can look like. 258 00:13:05,140 --> 00:13:08,807 We'd like to bring you all in to this nightly ritual of affirmations 259 00:13:08,831 --> 00:13:12,236 that Shaka does with Sekou every night at bedtime. 260 00:13:14,950 --> 00:13:16,195 SS: Hey. 261 00:13:16,219 --> 00:13:23,060 (Applause) 262 00:13:23,616 --> 00:13:25,330 SS: I am great. Sekou: I am great. 263 00:13:25,354 --> 00:13:27,132 SS: I am awesome. Sekou: I am awesome. 264 00:13:27,156 --> 00:13:28,886 SS: I'm amazing. Sekou: I'm amazing. 265 00:13:28,910 --> 00:13:30,965 SS: I am thoughtful. Sekou: I am thoughtful. 266 00:13:30,989 --> 00:13:32,497 SS: I am kind. Sekou: I am kind. 267 00:13:32,521 --> 00:13:34,188 SS: I am loving. Sekou: I am loving. 268 00:13:34,212 --> 00:13:35,894 SS: I am caring. Sekou: I am caring. 269 00:13:35,918 --> 00:13:37,505 SS: I am funny. Sekou: I am funny. 270 00:13:37,529 --> 00:13:39,109 SS: I am smart. Sekou: I am smart. 271 00:13:39,133 --> 00:13:41,038 SS: I'm a big boy. Sekou: I'm a big boy. 272 00:13:41,062 --> 00:13:42,991 SS: I'm a soldier. Sekou: I'm a soldier. 273 00:13:43,015 --> 00:13:44,919 SS: I'm a warrior. Sekou: I'm a warrior. 274 00:13:44,943 --> 00:13:46,857 SS: I am Sekou. Sekou: I am Sekou. 275 00:13:46,881 --> 00:13:52,643 (Cheers and applause) 276 00:13:52,667 --> 00:13:53,933 ER: Good job, baby.