1 00:00:00,928 --> 00:00:03,915 幾年前,我聽過一個好有趣嘅傳言: 2 00:00:04,389 --> 00:00:06,777 一間大型寵物食品公司嘅老總 3 00:00:06,801 --> 00:00:09,846 會喺年度股東大會度 4 00:00:10,565 --> 00:00:12,296 當眾食一罐狗糧 5 00:00:12,690 --> 00:00:15,523 佢想通過呢種方式嚟說服股東 既然佢敢食狗糧 6 00:00:15,607 --> 00:00:17,584 咁股東啲寵物就更加可以放心食 7 00:00:17,584 --> 00:00:19,994 呢種依家畀稱為「內部測試」嘅策略 8 00:00:20,328 --> 00:00:22,407 已經成為商界嘅一種常用策略 9 00:00:22,771 --> 00:00:24,975 佢唔係叫大家都去食狗糧 10 00:00:25,039 --> 00:00:27,240 係指商人會通過使用自己嘅產品 11 00:00:27,264 --> 00:00:28,401 去證明同表明 12 00:00:28,475 --> 00:00:30,350 佢哋對自己嘅產品有信心 13 00:00:30,814 --> 00:00:32,739 依家,呢種策略已經得到廣泛嘅應用 14 00:00:32,763 --> 00:00:34,232 但係我覺得真正有趣嘅係 15 00:00:34,232 --> 00:00:35,683 呢個策略唔係萬能嘅 16 00:00:35,857 --> 00:00:38,594 因為有啲生意或者有啲商人 17 00:00:38,594 --> 00:00:39,968 係唔用自己嘅產品 18 00:00:40,196 --> 00:00:43,857 而且呢種情況仲喺一個產業中比比皆是 19 00:00:43,941 --> 00:00:45,035 甚至形成咗一種常態 20 00:00:45,035 --> 00:00:47,549 講嘅就係以屏幕為基礎嘅科技產業 21 00:00:48,733 --> 00:00:55,681 2010 年蘋果發佈會,喬佈斯 將 iPad 稱為一款「超凡」產品 22 00:00:56,027 --> 00:00:58,417 「你將體驗前所未有嘅 23 00:00:58,417 --> 00:01:01,150 比手提、智能手機仲要好嘅瀏覽經歷 24 00:01:01,150 --> 00:01:02,677 暢快到令你難以置信。」 25 00:01:03,109 --> 00:01:04,254 幾個月之後 26 00:01:04,258 --> 00:01:06,614 一名來自紐約時報嘅記者去採訪佢 27 00:01:06,648 --> 00:01:08,557 佢哋講咗好長嘅一通電話 28 00:01:08,557 --> 00:01:09,487 電話結束之前 29 00:01:09,487 --> 00:01:12,387 記者問咗啲一個好似放水嘅問題 30 00:01:13,027 --> 00:01:15,822 「你嘅細路仔一定好鍾意 iPad。」 31 00:01:16,803 --> 00:01:18,432 答案似乎必然係肯定嘅 32 00:01:18,456 --> 00:01:21,075 但喬佈斯嘅回答就令人大跌眼鏡 33 00:01:21,099 --> 00:01:22,594 佢反而覺得好意外 34 00:01:22,594 --> 00:01:24,643 佢話「佢哋仲未用 iPad。 35 00:01:24,643 --> 00:01:27,355 我哋屋企限制細路仔 接觸科技嘅時間。」 36 00:01:27,859 --> 00:01:31,182 呢種情況喺科技界好常見 37 00:01:31,770 --> 00:01:33,775 事實上,矽谷附近有間 38 00:01:33,805 --> 00:01:36,078 叫做 Waldorf School of the Peninsula 嘅學校 39 00:01:36,502 --> 00:01:39,396 學生直到八年級先至用觸屏產品 40 00:01:39,690 --> 00:01:41,302 有趣嘅係 41 00:01:41,456 --> 00:01:46,055 其中有 75% 嘅學生家長 都係矽谷嘅技術高管 42 00:01:47,342 --> 00:01:50,867 所以當我聽聞呢件事之後 我覺得既有趣又驚奇 43 00:01:50,867 --> 00:01:53,333 而佢又促使我去思考 到底觸屏產品對我 44 00:01:53,333 --> 00:01:55,560 對我家人、我愛嘅人 45 00:01:55,588 --> 00:01:57,180 對大部份嘅人到底有乜影響 46 00:01:57,204 --> 00:01:59,126 所以喺過去五年間 47 00:01:59,150 --> 00:02:01,183 作為一名商業同心理學教授 48 00:02:01,207 --> 00:02:03,331 我一直喺度研究 觸屏產品對我哋生活嘅影響 49 00:02:04,479 --> 00:02:08,561 我先計下佢哋消耗咗我哋幾多時間 50 00:02:08,869 --> 00:02:11,035 然後再討論我哋用呢段時間做咗咩 51 00:02:11,035 --> 00:02:15,642 我哋就揀一個平常嘅工作日 按佢有 24 小時噉計 52 00:02:16,578 --> 00:02:18,580 我哋揾咗三個嘅時間點 2007 年, 即係 10 年前 53 00:02:18,604 --> 00:02:20,063 2015 年 54 00:02:20,087 --> 00:02:22,455 同我上個星期啱收集咗數據嘅 2017 年 55 00:02:23,129 --> 00:02:26,228 好多嘢都冇點變 56 00:02:26,850 --> 00:02:29,999 我哋仲係每日瞓大概 7 個半到 8 個鐘 57 00:02:29,999 --> 00:02:32,926 有人話,睡眠時間輕微減少咗 但實際冇好大變化 58 00:02:32,926 --> 00:02:35,980 我哋每日做 8 個半到 9 個鐘嘅工 59 00:02:36,738 --> 00:02:38,330 仲有啲日常活動 60 00:02:38,330 --> 00:02:41,177 譬如食飯、沖涼、湊細路仔 61 00:02:41,395 --> 00:02:42,801 每日要花費三個鐘 62 00:02:42,825 --> 00:02:44,353 咁仲剩低一啲空間 63 00:02:44,377 --> 00:02:46,044 我哋嘅個人時間 64 00:02:46,068 --> 00:02:48,696 呢段時間對我哋非常重要 65 00:02:49,294 --> 00:02:51,942 因為我哋可以做一啲個人嘅嘢 66 00:02:51,942 --> 00:02:55,167 我哋可以因此培養興趣 發展親密關係 67 00:02:55,167 --> 00:02:58,093 真正思考人生,變得富有創造力 68 00:02:58,093 --> 00:03:00,037 自我反省,完善自身,解決問題 69 00:03:00,061 --> 00:03:01,545 令我哋嘅人生變得有意義 70 00:03:01,545 --> 00:03:03,773 當然,工作都有咁嘅作用 71 00:03:03,797 --> 00:03:05,226 但係當人喺生命嘅盡頭 72 00:03:05,226 --> 00:03:08,127 回顧自己嘅一生個時 73 00:03:08,127 --> 00:03:13,292 佢哋臨終所講嘅 都同個人時間有關 74 00:03:14,087 --> 00:03:16,450 所以個人時間係好神聖嘅 對我哋好重要 75 00:03:16,694 --> 00:03:18,545 依家,我要做嘅就係話畀你哋知 76 00:03:18,569 --> 00:03:21,821 隨著時間嘅推移 觸屏產品佔用咗我哋幾多個人時間 77 00:03:21,845 --> 00:03:23,170 2007 年 78 00:03:23,194 --> 00:03:24,345 係咁多 79 00:03:24,369 --> 00:03:26,859 呢年蘋果公司發佈咗第一部 iPhone 80 00:03:27,373 --> 00:03:28,571 八年之後 81 00:03:29,239 --> 00:03:30,460 係咁多 82 00:03:31,318 --> 00:03:33,107 依家,係咁多 83 00:03:33,131 --> 00:03:36,309 呢啲就係我哋對住屏幕嘅時間 84 00:03:36,593 --> 00:03:39,896 呢個黃色區域,條細銀線 係魔法發生嘅地方 85 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:41,502 代表住你本人嘅特質 86 00:03:41,526 --> 00:03:43,298 依家,呢個區域好細 87 00:03:44,243 --> 00:03:45,868 咁我哋要點做? 88 00:03:45,892 --> 00:03:46,853 第一個問題就係: 89 00:03:46,853 --> 00:03:49,132 個紅色區域似咩? 90 00:03:49,156 --> 00:03:51,261 當然,觸屏產品宜家喺好多方面 91 00:03:51,285 --> 00:03:52,713 都創造咗奇跡 92 00:03:52,737 --> 00:03:53,994 我喺紐約生活 93 00:03:54,018 --> 00:03:56,016 而我有好多親戚喺澳洲 94 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:57,470 我有個一歲大嘅仔 95 00:03:57,494 --> 00:04:01,392 佢通過屏幕嚟識得啲親戚 96 00:04:01,416 --> 00:04:03,506 呢個係我 15 或者 20 年前 97 00:04:03,530 --> 00:04:04,688 冇辦法做到嘅 98 00:04:04,712 --> 00:04:06,869 觸屏產品確實帶來咗好多好處 99 00:04:06,893 --> 00:04:08,739 你能夠做嘅一件事就係問自己: 100 00:04:08,763 --> 00:04:10,846 喺嗰段時間到底發生咗咩? 101 00:04:10,870 --> 00:04:13,308 嗰啲應用程式到底 令我哋嘅生活豐富咗幾多? 102 00:04:13,332 --> 00:04:14,606 而有啲確實係嘅 103 00:04:14,630 --> 00:04:16,776 如果你喺人們用緊應用程式陣時 叫停佢哋,問 104 00:04:16,776 --> 00:04:18,328 「話畀我知你依家覺得點啊?」 105 00:04:18,328 --> 00:04:23,592 如果用緊有關放鬆、 鍛煉、天氣 閱讀、教育、健康嘅應用程式 106 00:04:23,592 --> 00:04:26,055 佢哋會話感覺良好 107 00:04:26,079 --> 00:04:28,483 佢哋平均每日每個應用程式用九分鐘 108 00:04:29,237 --> 00:04:31,567 而有啲應用程式就會令到佢哋冇咁開心 109 00:04:32,099 --> 00:04:35,147 大概一半嘅人,當你打斷佢哋問: 「你覺得點啊?」 110 00:04:35,147 --> 00:04:37,835 佢哋會講唔係咁開心 111 00:04:37,859 --> 00:04:41,040 有趣嘅係,呢啲應用程式係有關 約會、社交網絡、遊戲 112 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:43,684 娛樂、新聞、網頁瀏覽 113 00:04:43,998 --> 00:04:46,604 人們每日平均每個應用程式 用二十七分鐘 114 00:04:46,628 --> 00:04:49,900 我哋用多兩倍嘅時間嚟令到自己唔開心 115 00:04:50,174 --> 00:04:52,152 咁似乎唔係咁明智 116 00:04:52,886 --> 00:04:55,854 我哋之所以用咁多時間喺 令自己唔開心嘅應用程式 117 00:04:55,854 --> 00:04:58,156 係因為佢哋令我哋停唔落嚟 118 00:04:58,180 --> 00:05:02,029 停止信號遍佈 20 世紀嘅每一個角落 119 00:05:02,471 --> 00:05:08,631 一個停止信號主要就係叫我哋 去做一啲新嘅、唔同嘅嘢喇 120 00:05:08,632 --> 00:05:11,828 你諗下,將份報紙睇到尾 121 00:05:11,852 --> 00:05:14,149 你就折好份報紙,放埋一邊 122 00:05:14,173 --> 00:05:15,671 雜誌、書本都係咁 123 00:05:15,671 --> 00:05:19,288 當你睇完一章內容 你就會去諗跟住要做啲乜 124 00:05:20,504 --> 00:05:23,202 你去睇電視,個節目會結束 125 00:05:23,226 --> 00:05:25,631 你就要等成個星期先至有下一集 126 00:05:25,655 --> 00:05:27,409 停止信號無處不在 127 00:05:27,433 --> 00:05:31,183 但係我哋今日接觸嘅媒體 係冇停止信號嘅 128 00:05:31,923 --> 00:05:33,498 動態消息不斷湧入 129 00:05:33,522 --> 00:05:36,819 一切都變得無窮無盡: Twitter、Facebook、Instagram 130 00:05:36,819 --> 00:05:39,941 郵件、短信、新聞 131 00:05:40,385 --> 00:05:43,355 當你真係要睇曬全部來源嘅信息 132 00:05:43,379 --> 00:05:45,720 你就會一直一直睇下去 133 00:05:45,744 --> 00:05:50,154 至於要點應對 我哋可以從西歐得到一啲啟示 134 00:05:50,178 --> 00:05:53,283 佢哋似乎喺工作方面有一啲成效 135 00:05:53,283 --> 00:05:56,011 舉一個例子 呢個係一間荷蘭設計公司 136 00:05:56,035 --> 00:05:57,285 佢哋嘅做法就係 137 00:05:57,285 --> 00:06:00,597 每日下午六點準時將辦公台升到天花板 138 00:06:00,621 --> 00:06:03,428 無論你係發緊郵件或者咩 139 00:06:03,452 --> 00:06:04,929 張辦公檯都會畀升到天花板 140 00:06:04,953 --> 00:06:06,061 (笑聲) 141 00:06:06,085 --> 00:06:07,335 (掌聲) 142 00:06:07,359 --> 00:06:11,242 每個星期有四日 辦公室變成一個瑜伽館 143 00:06:11,626 --> 00:06:13,257 每個星期有一日,辦公室變成舞吧 144 00:06:13,281 --> 00:06:15,514 由你嚟決定放工後參加咩活動 145 00:06:15,514 --> 00:06:17,521 但呢個真係一個好好嘅停止信號 146 00:06:17,545 --> 00:06:19,432 因為咁意味住喺每日嘅結尾 147 00:06:19,456 --> 00:06:21,177 一切都要停止,無辦法再去工作 148 00:06:21,177 --> 00:06:24,445 一間叫 Daimler 嘅德國汽車公司 採用咗另一種策略 149 00:06:24,445 --> 00:06:26,515 喺你度假個時 150 00:06:26,539 --> 00:06:28,447 佢哋唔講「呢個人度緊假, 151 00:06:28,447 --> 00:06:29,814 等佢返嚟就會回覆你。」 152 00:06:29,814 --> 00:06:33,346 而係講「呢個人度緊假, 所以我哋刪咗你份郵件, 153 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:36,406 佢永遠都唔會睇到你啱發嗰份郵件。」 154 00:06:36,430 --> 00:06:37,446 (笑聲) 155 00:06:37,470 --> 00:06:40,111 「你可以幾個星期后再發一次, 156 00:06:40,135 --> 00:06:41,621 或者乾脆發郵件畀其他人。」 157 00:06:41,645 --> 00:06:42,673 (笑聲) 158 00:06:42,697 --> 00:06:43,493 咁所以 159 00:06:43,493 --> 00:06:45,365 (掌聲) 160 00:06:48,882 --> 00:06:50,104 你可以想像一下呢種情況 161 00:06:50,104 --> 00:06:53,002 你去度假,咁你就係真真正正咁度假 162 00:06:53,026 --> 00:06:54,995 呢間公司嘅員工覺得 163 00:06:55,019 --> 00:06:57,381 佢哋係真正放低工作,得到休息 164 00:06:57,405 --> 00:07:00,902 當然,我哋仲唔係好清楚 平時喺屋企要點做 165 00:07:00,939 --> 00:07:03,075 我想畀大家一啲建議 166 00:07:03,075 --> 00:07:07,868 好簡單,就係我打算下午五點到六點 都唔掂我部手機 167 00:07:07,892 --> 00:07:11,323 問題係,每日嘅下午五點到六點都唔同 168 00:07:11,347 --> 00:07:13,534 我諗咗一個更好嘅策略 169 00:07:13,558 --> 00:07:15,027 我每日都會做一啲嘢 170 00:07:15,051 --> 00:07:17,405 而其中一啲係每日固定嘅 171 00:07:17,429 --> 00:07:18,688 譬如食晚餐 172 00:07:18,712 --> 00:07:20,030 有時我一個人食 173 00:07:20,054 --> 00:07:21,560 有時同其他人一齊食 174 00:07:21,584 --> 00:07:22,863 有時喺餐館食 175 00:07:22,887 --> 00:07:24,075 有時喺屋企食 176 00:07:24,099 --> 00:07:27,495 但係我嘅原則唔變: 絕對唔喺食飯時睇手機 177 00:07:28,147 --> 00:07:29,581 要將部手機放遠啲 178 00:07:29,581 --> 00:07:31,042 越遠越好 179 00:07:31,066 --> 00:07:32,976 因為我哋真係對誘惑毫無抵抗力 180 00:07:32,976 --> 00:07:34,409 但係你知要停低 181 00:07:34,409 --> 00:07:37,124 所以每次晚飯開餐 我都會將部手機放到好遠 182 00:07:37,124 --> 00:07:39,342 避免曬所有誘惑 183 00:07:39,366 --> 00:07:41,083 一開始好痛苦 184 00:07:41,107 --> 00:07:42,729 因為我有好嚴重嘅「錯失恐懼癥」 185 00:07:42,753 --> 00:07:43,819 (笑聲) 186 00:07:43,843 --> 00:07:45,009 我掙扎過 187 00:07:45,369 --> 00:07:47,299 但最後我竟然習慣咗 188 00:07:47,323 --> 00:07:50,421 就好似戒毒時克服毒癮咁 189 00:07:50,445 --> 00:07:53,230 然之後,生活就變得更加豐富多彩 190 00:07:53,254 --> 00:07:54,409 更加有趣 191 00:07:54,433 --> 00:07:56,083 你可以更加好咁溝通 192 00:07:56,107 --> 00:07:58,635 你真正同你身邊嘅人聯繫起來 193 00:07:59,085 --> 00:08:00,799 我覺得呢個係一個絕佳嘅策略 194 00:08:00,823 --> 00:08:03,312 我哋知道咁樣有用,我追蹤過好多人 195 00:08:03,336 --> 00:08:05,490 當佢哋咁做時—— 196 00:08:05,490 --> 00:08:06,424 呢種作用仲放大咗 197 00:08:06,424 --> 00:08:07,704 佢哋感覺非常良好 198 00:08:07,704 --> 00:08:10,640 從每日早晨嘅第一粒鐘開始自律 199 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:14,205 佢哋開始喺週末將手機調到飛行模式 200 00:08:14,749 --> 00:08:18,086 嗰時,你部手機就唔再係一部手機 而係一部相機 201 00:08:18,510 --> 00:08:19,845 咁真係一個好好嘅方法 202 00:08:19,869 --> 00:08:22,758 我哋清楚大家會因此覺得生活更加美好 203 00:08:23,973 --> 00:08:25,292 咁到底重點係咩呢? 204 00:08:25,292 --> 00:08:27,825 我講過,觸屏產品係好神奇嘅 205 00:08:27,849 --> 00:08:29,111 我都覺得確實係咁 206 00:08:29,111 --> 00:08:33,546 但係我哋依家嘅處境就好似 207 00:08:33,546 --> 00:08:37,056 開著一架車喺一條無盡頭嘅路上狂奔 208 00:08:37,056 --> 00:08:39,104 似乎好難踩到刹車 209 00:08:39,128 --> 00:08:40,620 你面前有兩種選擇 210 00:08:41,510 --> 00:08:45,673 你可以任由美景喺眼前飛逝 剩係講句「好靚嘅海景啊」 211 00:08:45,697 --> 00:08:48,793 再透過車窗匆匆影幾張相 咁好容易 212 00:08:48,817 --> 00:08:52,357 或者你可以離開公路,泊車埋邊 213 00:08:52,381 --> 00:08:53,853 踩腳刹車 214 00:08:53,877 --> 00:08:55,030 落車 215 00:08:55,054 --> 00:08:56,935 除低鞋襪 216 00:08:56,959 --> 00:08:59,224 喺沙灘上漫步 217 00:08:59,248 --> 00:09:01,488 感受沙粒帶來嘅觸覺 218 00:09:01,512 --> 00:09:02,663 走向大海 219 00:09:02,687 --> 00:09:04,800 等海水纏繞你嘅腳踝 220 00:09:05,207 --> 00:09:08,022 你嘅生活會變得更加豐富、有意義 221 00:09:08,046 --> 00:09:10,264 因為你體驗咗新嘅經歷 222 00:09:10,288 --> 00:09:12,684 因為你將部手機留喺架車度 223 00:09:12,708 --> 00:09:13,879 多謝! 224 00:09:13,903 --> 00:09:16,204 (掌聲)