0:00:01.757,0:00:03.626 (Bell) 0:00:06.792,0:00:12.088 (Bell) 0:00:33.302,0:00:36.492 What is the hardest thing[br]that you practice? 0:00:39.498,0:00:44.788 That is not to allow yourself[br]to be overwhelmed by despair. 0:00:45.440,0:00:47.773 That is the hardest thing. 0:00:48.430,0:00:51.232 Because when you are[br]overwhelmed by despair, 0:00:51.419,0:00:54.520 that is the worst thing[br]that can happen to you. 0:00:56.635,0:01:00.031 I remember when the war was going on. 0:01:01.707,0:01:07.301 We did not see the light 0:01:09.602,0:01:12.161 at the end of the tunnel. 0:01:12.398,0:01:16.600 It seemed that the war[br]would go on and on forever. 0:01:17.952,0:01:22.106 The young people[br]came and asked: 0:01:22.421,0:01:24.187 'Dear Thay, 0:01:24.407,0:01:27.661 do you think that[br]the war will end soon?' 0:01:30.680,0:01:33.574 It is very difficult to answer. 0:01:33.854,0:01:38.326 Because you have not seen the light[br]at the end of the tunnel. 0:01:38.980,0:01:41.472 But if you say: 'I don't know', 0:01:41.789,0:01:50.796 then you water[br]the seed of despair in them. 0:01:55.105,0:02:00.064 So Thay had to[br]breathe in and out a few times 0:02:00.564,0:02:02.524 and then what he said was: 0:02:02.787,0:02:04.425 'Dear friends, 0:02:04.641,0:02:08.041 the Buddha said[br]that every thing is impermanent. 0:02:08.221,0:02:11.770 The war should be impermanent also. 0:02:12.144,0:02:14.486 It should end some day. 0:02:14.674,0:02:17.987 Let us continue to work for peace.' 0:02:19.242,0:02:21.365 During the war, 0:02:21.586,0:02:26.756 we, young nuns and monks,[br]and lay practicioners 0:02:27.128,0:02:31.290 we organized the School of[br]Youth for Social Service 0:02:32.155,0:02:36.626 like the Peace Corps[br]created by John F. Kennedy. 0:02:37.547,0:02:41.286 We went into the war zone[br]and we helped the wounded people. 0:02:43.742,0:02:48.735 We helped create refugee centers, 0:02:49.047,0:02:54.293 we gave them a chance[br]to go back to normal life. 0:02:56.173,0:03:00.897 We rebuilt the villages[br]that had been bombed. 0:03:03.836,0:03:06.748 There was a village called Tra Loc 0:03:06.894,0:03:10.911 not very far from the demilitarized zone 0:03:11.624,0:03:14.269 separating North and South. 0:03:15.275,0:03:20.236 The village of Tra Loc was bombed,[br]completely destroyed. 0:03:21.168,0:03:23.561 Our young social workers, 0:03:23.763,0:03:27.145 including monks and nuns[br]and lay practitioners, 0:03:27.314,0:03:30.837 they had rebuilt the village. 0:03:32.360,0:03:35.332 But it was bombed again[br]and destroyed again. 0:03:37.399,0:03:40.835 And our social workers wired us 0:03:41.606,0:03:45.593 and asked whether[br]they should rebuild it. 0:03:46.120,0:03:48.767 We said: 'Rebuild it'. 0:03:49.119,0:03:51.143 And we rebuilt it. 0:03:51.329,0:03:53.600 And it was bombed again. 0:03:55.515,0:03:57.263 Four times. 0:03:58.497,0:04:00.392 If we gave up, 0:04:01.628,0:04:04.744 that would create a feeling of despair. 0:04:04.939,0:04:11.298 That is why we kept[br]rebuilding it and rebuilding it. 0:04:11.743,0:04:15.507 So the hardest thing is[br]not to lose your hope, 0:04:16.323,0:04:19.017 not to give up, to despair. 0:04:19.199,0:04:21.572 That is the hardest thing. 0:04:21.792,0:04:25.600 We have gone through[br]two wars like that. 0:04:28.500,0:04:33.430 We saw French soldiers came,[br]killed and get killed. 0:04:34.681,0:04:38.468 We saw young Americans came[br]and killed and get killed. 0:04:38.651,0:04:44.037 50.000 young Americans[br]were killed in Vietnam. 0:04:44.819,0:04:50.942 Hundred of thousands of them were wounded 0:04:52.544,0:04:56.911 and many had to be cared[br]by psychotherapists and so on. 0:04:57.183,0:05:01.655 In a situation of[br]utmost suffering like that 0:05:01.932,0:05:05.756 if we donĀ“t have a practice[br]we cannot survive. 0:05:07.281,0:05:09.759 We practice in such a way 0:05:09.967,0:05:17.114 that we can preserve[br]our hope and our compassion. 0:05:25.061,0:05:31.341 When the journalists[br]asked us questions about that, 0:05:31.830,0:05:36.621 about how do we felt[br]about young Americans coming 0:05:40.110,0:05:43.986 and killed and died in Vietnam, 0:05:44.497,0:05:48.227 we said: 'They are victims,[br]we don't hate them. 0:05:49.342,0:05:54.453 They are victims of a kind of policy[br]that is not very intelligent. 0:05:56.520,0:05:59.709 A policy based on fear. 0:06:03.520,0:06:11.320 Fear of the taking by the communists[br]of the whole South East Asia. 0:06:16.373,0:06:18.055 They are victims. 0:06:18.232,0:06:20.560 They have to come here[br]to kill and to die.' 0:06:21.184,0:06:24.121 You understand,[br]so you are not angry at them. 0:06:27.428,0:06:34.561 In 1966, Thay was invited[br]to come to America. 0:06:36.800,0:06:45.575 He had the chance to talk[br]to the American people about the war. 0:06:47.851,0:06:53.033 There was a very angry young American 0:06:53.592,0:06:58.025 who stood up[br]and told Thay this: 0:06:59.641,0:07:01.640 'You should not be here. 0:07:01.871,0:07:08.175 You should go back and fight[br]American imperialism in Vietnam. 0:07:09.440,0:07:12.814 You have to kill[br]the American soldiers there.' 0:07:13.840,0:07:15.936 Thay's answer was: 0:07:16.221,0:07:19.600 'I thought that[br]the root of the war is here. 0:07:19.808,0:07:22.148 It is not in Vietnam. 0:07:22.633,0:07:26.013 The young Americans[br]who came in Vietnam 0:07:26.215,0:07:28.543 they are just victims. 0:07:28.793,0:07:31.374 So I had to come here[br]and tell the American people 0:07:32.246,0:07:35.848 that this war[br]is not helping Vietnam at all.' 0:07:37.033,0:07:41.834 So without that kind of[br]understanding and compassion, 0:07:43.576,0:07:48.292 you will lose yourself[br]in anger and hate. 0:07:48.607,0:07:51.256 And you will not be able[br]to say things like that 0:07:51.400,0:07:53.776 and help the American people understand 0:07:53.942,0:07:58.868 and change the policy. 0:08:06.099,0:08:12.903 There was a peace movement in America[br]oposing the war in Vietnam. 0:08:21.678,0:08:25.414 As people demanded peace[br]and did not get it, 0:08:25.600,0:08:27.991 they got very angry. 0:08:28.506,0:08:31.573 So there was a lot of anger[br]in the peace movement. 0:08:33.951,0:08:36.991 And when Thay toured America[br]and talked to these groups, 0:08:37.151,0:08:40.473 Thay said: 'If you have[br]a lot of anger in you 0:08:40.634,0:08:42.425 you cannot touch the peace. 0:08:42.588,0:08:45.175 You have to be peace[br]before you can do peace. 0:08:48.232,0:08:51.236 Understanding is very important. 0:08:51.448,0:08:55.491 You need to know[br]how to write a love letter 0:08:56.456,0:08:59.135 to your president, to your Congress, 0:09:00.022,0:09:03.560 and tell them that[br]you don't support the war. 0:09:03.770,0:09:07.529 If you write a strong, angry letter, 0:09:07.860,0:09:09.880 they will not read it.' 0:09:09.979,0:09:13.360 Thay was able to speak like that 0:09:13.615,0:09:18.244 and help somehow to end the war. 0:09:23.440,0:09:25.294 Understanding suffering 0:09:27.813,0:09:31.784 helps compassion to be born in you. 0:09:34.198,0:09:38.194 You will be free[br]from despair, from anger, 0:09:38.324,0:09:40.713 and you can help the cause of peace. 0:09:42.406,0:09:44.204 (Bell) 0:09:47.493,0:09:53.685 (Bell)