1 00:00:01,668 --> 00:00:06,114 Alright, the next topic in the business process, 2 00:00:06,114 --> 00:00:10,560 it also relates to risk management, and that's loss mitigation. 3 00:00:13,155 --> 00:00:15,893 If you're in the business of bearing default risk, -- 4 00:00:16,210 --> 00:00:20,016 if you can reduce the cost of defaults, -- 5 00:00:20,296 --> 00:00:24,838 then you can have more profitable business, -- 6 00:00:25,058 --> 00:00:28,295 regardless of the level of defaults. 7 00:00:29,064 --> 00:00:32,951 So loss mitigation becomes another important 8 00:00:32,951 --> 00:00:35,076 kind of implementation function. 9 00:00:37,265 --> 00:00:39,793 So one of the first things you do with loss mitigation 10 00:00:39,793 --> 00:00:41,242 is you have to have a policy. 11 00:00:41,302 --> 00:00:43,374 What do you do -- 12 00:00:43,554 --> 00:00:48,099 or what do you want the loan servicer acting on your behalf to do -- 13 00:00:48,357 --> 00:00:50,958 when the borrower is late one payment, 14 00:00:50,958 --> 00:00:52,605 late two payments? 15 00:00:52,959 --> 00:00:55,172 How quickly do you want to foreclose? 16 00:00:56,443 --> 00:01:01,733 Do you want to have foreclosure alternatives? 17 00:01:05,325 --> 00:01:09,369 Or do you always just want to foreclose whenever -- 18 00:01:09,914 --> 00:01:14,703 the borrower has committed the legal offenses, so to speak, 19 00:01:14,703 --> 00:01:17,402 that justify foreclosure? 20 00:01:17,631 --> 00:01:20,159 So should there be foreclosure alternatives? 21 00:01:20,486 --> 00:01:24,000 Now, on a lot of these things, you're going to face legal constraints. 22 00:01:25,181 --> 00:01:29,320 You might want to foreclose quickly, but the law doesn't allow it. 23 00:01:30,019 --> 00:01:32,455 And the other constraints; -- 24 00:01:32,685 --> 00:01:36,786 which maybe I shouldn't put in the same category as legal constraints; 25 00:01:37,373 --> 00:01:42,432 I'll put investor constraints or complications. 26 00:01:43,092 --> 00:01:47,204 So, we'll talk about this more probably in another video, 27 00:01:47,204 --> 00:01:52,872 but when there are investors in a mortgage loan, 28 00:01:53,202 --> 00:01:56,951 there are going to be some contractual obligations that you have, -- 29 00:01:58,484 --> 00:02:01,584 if you're bearing the risk that they're going to cause problems, 30 00:02:01,584 --> 00:02:05,857 or there may be conflicts between different investor classes 31 00:02:06,242 --> 00:02:11,521 in terms of what would be the most profitable loss mitigation strategy. 32 00:02:13,580 --> 00:02:17,360 Ultimately, this will take the form of legal constraints. 33 00:02:18,633 --> 00:02:21,514 The contract terms involved 34 00:02:21,514 --> 00:02:25,988 between the investors and whoever is servicing the loan. 35 00:02:28,025 --> 00:02:32,539 So back to this issue of foreclosure alternatives. 36 00:02:33,005 --> 00:02:37,655 There's what's known as a short sale -- 37 00:02:38,355 --> 00:02:45,964 where the lender allows the property to be sold -- 38 00:02:47,410 --> 00:02:52,034 for an amount that's less than the mortgage balance -- 39 00:02:52,514 --> 00:02:55,726 and just takes the loss that way. 40 00:02:56,904 --> 00:03:00,235 An advantage of that is one of the big risks in -- 41 00:03:00,392 --> 00:03:03,325 the whole foreclosure procedure is -- 42 00:03:06,697 --> 00:03:10,597 that borrowers not only don't maintain properties, 43 00:03:10,817 --> 00:03:15,132 but they'll actually steal things out of them. 44 00:03:15,132 --> 00:03:18,964 You know, you can sell the copper wiring out of the house, for example. 45 00:03:20,896 --> 00:03:28,163 Properties and foreclosure tend to radically depreciate, -- 46 00:03:28,585 --> 00:03:32,338 and so by doing a quick short sale -- 47 00:03:40,618 --> 00:03:45,488 convincing the borrower to sell the property earlier 48 00:03:45,488 --> 00:03:47,927 rather than going through the foreclosure procedure 49 00:03:47,927 --> 00:03:50,541 saved you some legal expenses, -- 50 00:03:51,579 --> 00:03:54,735 and also, it reduces this risk of 51 00:03:54,735 --> 00:03:58,131 the property basically being gutted by the borrower. 52 00:04:06,140 --> 00:04:07,954 Some companies try, -- 53 00:04:08,348 --> 00:04:11,028 as when the borrower is late with making payments, 54 00:04:11,028 --> 00:04:14,978 some forms of counseling, or -- 55 00:04:17,933 --> 00:04:22,431 you can either go through an expensive process, 56 00:04:22,431 --> 00:04:25,925 a labor-intensive process of working with the borrowers: -- 57 00:04:27,003 --> 00:04:30,089 counseling, working with borrowers. 58 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:32,186 Or you can try to save on the labor 59 00:04:32,186 --> 00:04:35,420 and you just send out the notice saying, "Your payment's late," -- 60 00:04:36,368 --> 00:04:38,475 and then you send out the foreclosure notice. 61 00:04:38,475 --> 00:04:40,566 So you can either be labor-intensive or not. 62 00:04:40,566 --> 00:04:42,159 That's just a choice. 63 00:04:43,048 --> 00:04:44,766 Finally, there's a choice, -- 64 00:04:45,196 --> 00:04:50,090 and, again, this may not be available because of legal or investor constraints, 65 00:04:50,090 --> 00:04:52,165 but you can modify the mortgage. 66 00:04:52,498 --> 00:04:55,231 You can say, "Okay, well, looks like you can't pay that mortgage, 67 00:04:55,231 --> 00:04:59,266 but maybe we will lower the loan balance, or we'll lower the interest rate. 68 00:04:59,675 --> 00:05:01,701 We'll do a loan modification." 69 00:05:02,162 --> 00:05:06,205 Loan modifications actually have a terrible track record. 70 00:05:07,646 --> 00:05:10,937 I just re-mention this; they have a very high re-default rate. 71 00:05:10,937 --> 00:05:14,225 They had a high re-default rate in good times, 72 00:05:14,225 --> 00:05:17,639 and to the extent that they've been tried -- 73 00:05:17,988 --> 00:05:20,276 in the most recent housing crisis. 74 00:05:20,456 --> 00:05:25,093 They've had, if anything, an even higher re-default rate than good times. 75 00:05:26,126 --> 00:05:31,539 So it doesn't work terribly well. It does not have a good track record. 76 00:05:35,806 --> 00:05:37,547 It's labor-intensive, -- 77 00:05:38,297 --> 00:05:41,722 so it imposes a lot of costs on the servicers because 78 00:05:41,722 --> 00:05:45,975 you really have to make a lot of judgment calls 79 00:05:45,975 --> 00:05:49,641 about whether a modification will work, 80 00:05:49,641 --> 00:05:51,788 whether it won't work, how to make it work. 81 00:05:53,115 --> 00:05:56,747 And each case tends to be different, -- 82 00:05:57,067 --> 00:06:00,139 so it's a very labor-intensive process. 83 00:06:02,438 --> 00:06:06,514 It doesn't have a good track record as far as -- 84 00:06:06,644 --> 00:06:09,311 saving money in the default process. 85 00:06:10,416 --> 00:06:13,947 I should point out that, when I talked about legal constraints, -- 86 00:06:15,499 --> 00:06:20,592 each state has different rules. 87 00:06:25,533 --> 00:06:28,388 Some of them are designed to keep borrowers, -- 88 00:06:28,988 --> 00:06:32,679 make it harder to foreclose, some make it easier to foreclose. 89 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:37,733 The easier it is to foreclose, usually the less cost and the lower loss. 90 00:06:38,531 --> 00:06:40,111 The harder it is to foreclose, -- 91 00:06:41,655 --> 00:06:44,588 the more likely it is that the lender will lose a lot of money 92 00:06:44,588 --> 00:06:48,711 by the time they get around to completing the foreclosure process. 93 00:06:54,493 --> 00:06:59,294 So overall, this loss mitigation area is a very interesting area because -- 94 00:07:01,298 --> 00:07:08,032 if it's pretty typical to lose sort of 50% of the loan amount 95 00:07:08,032 --> 00:07:12,042 when you go through a foreclosure; and I think that is pretty typical; 96 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:16,774 then if you could save a substantial portion of that, 97 00:07:16,774 --> 00:07:19,534 that would be a big deal in mortgage lending. 98 00:07:19,534 --> 00:07:21,663 That would really improve things a lot. 99 00:07:24,695 --> 00:07:30,400 People often suggest that there are magic bullets involved in loss mitigation. 100 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:33,810 So, they'll say, "We think that if you do X, 101 00:07:34,030 --> 00:07:36,548 maybe you will save substantial amounts of money." 102 00:07:36,548 --> 00:07:39,365 And the potential is there to do it, but as far as I know, 103 00:07:39,365 --> 00:07:43,756 none of these things, the short sales, the counseling, modifying mortgages, -- 104 00:07:44,777 --> 00:07:46,527 foreclosure alternatives, -- 105 00:07:46,975 --> 00:07:49,656 as far as I know, none of them is a magic bullet. 106 00:07:51,605 --> 00:07:53,495 Sometimes they save money, 107 00:07:53,495 --> 00:07:56,163 sometimes they make things worse in the end. 108 00:07:57,328 --> 00:07:58,444 I don't know, -- 109 00:07:59,396 --> 00:08:01,712 at least as far as I know now, there are no -- 110 00:08:02,961 --> 00:08:05,139 magic bullets in loss mitigation. 111 00:08:06,443 --> 00:08:09,066 No matter how you do it, how you deal with it, 112 00:08:09,246 --> 00:08:10,510 with the loan default, -- 113 00:08:11,473 --> 00:08:13,660 there's a lot of labor costs involved, -- 114 00:08:14,060 --> 00:08:17,468 and there's a lot of financial losses involved.