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Dialogue: 0,0:00:07.24,0:00:11.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[KIKI SMITH: PRINTMAKING]
Dialogue: 0,0:00:18.03,0:00:18.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[SMITH, OFF SCREEN] Hi!
Dialogue: 0,0:00:18.76,0:00:19.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[WOMAN] Hi, Kiki.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:22.57,0:00:24.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[WOMAN] We're just in the middle of wiping this.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:24.78,0:00:25.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[SMITH] Oh, good.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:28.69,0:00:30.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How does it look?
Dialogue: 0,0:00:30.14,0:00:31.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[WOMAN] It's good!
Dialogue: 0,0:00:32.20,0:00:34.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[SMITH] So is that too much? Or maybe no...maybe that's fine.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:34.72,0:00:35.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[WOMAN] It might be fine.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:35.29,0:00:36.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[SMITH] Is that too much?
Dialogue: 0,0:00:37.10,0:00:38.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[WOMAN] That? Yeah, well, it's hard to tell.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:38.68,0:00:39.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[SMITH] Don't you think?
Dialogue: 0,0:00:39.22,0:00:39.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[WOMAN] I think so.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:39.93,0:00:42.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[SMITH] And then, we can still...then you can just ink it.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:42.21,0:00:43.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[WOMAN] Yeah, definitely.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:43.15,0:00:44.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[SMITH] Because I think this looks good.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:44.36,0:00:46.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think those being heavy is okay, kind of.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:46.70,0:00:47.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[WOMAN] Yeah, definitely.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:53.32,0:00:57.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[SMITH] It's Dmitry's birthday tomorrow, so it's good if we finish today.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:57.66,0:00:59.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ALL LAUGH]
Dialogue: 0,0:01:04.35,0:01:11.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[SMITH] This is a print of a Russian artist named Dmitry Gaev,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:11.56,0:01:15.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who I'm friends with, and most of the men I know are bald... [LAUGHS]
Dialogue: 0,0:01:15.34,0:01:17.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So he was... We were hanging around, and I thought,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:17.42,0:01:18.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Oh, he has hair!"
Dialogue: 0,0:01:18.22,0:01:22.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, I like drawing hair, but drawing skin is much more problematic.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:29.27,0:01:30.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[WOMAN] It looks good!
Dialogue: 0,0:01:30.54,0:01:32.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[SMITH] And so this is sort of my first real attempt
Dialogue: 0,0:01:32.60,0:01:34.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at trying to make a person--
Dialogue: 0,0:01:34.20,0:01:37.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to try to move my way up to making flesh.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:38.03,0:01:39.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is all pretty good.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:39.70,0:01:41.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think all of that is good.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:41.44,0:01:42.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This could get...
Dialogue: 0,0:01:42.19,0:01:46.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Maybe I could do a little bit lightening up in the mouth here?
Dialogue: 0,0:01:46.89,0:01:47.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Slightly in that one.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:47.80,0:01:48.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This mouth is perfect.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:48.87,0:01:49.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[WOMAN] Yes.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:49.39,0:01:51.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[SMITH] Just like these a little teeny bit,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:51.07,0:01:52.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then we'll be done!
Dialogue: 0,0:01:53.33,0:01:54.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[LAUGHS]
Dialogue: 0,0:01:55.57,0:01:58.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,As I say for the fifteenth time.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:00.76,0:02:03.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[WOMAN] With Kiki, we have to do a lot of proofs, partly because,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:03.16,0:02:06.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think, she has to consistently go back into it
Dialogue: 0,0:02:06.38,0:02:08.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and see how it comes out, and see the proofs.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:08.75,0:02:11.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's only so much that you can work on
Dialogue: 0,0:02:11.98,0:02:14.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,before you need to see an image of what you're...
Dialogue: 0,0:02:14.09,0:02:17.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,On the paper, of what it looks like.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:18.63,0:02:20.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is the cat, Ginzer,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:20.47,0:02:23.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it's sort of the first that began the series that now, I think,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:23.11,0:02:25.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Dmitry is coming out of.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:26.30,0:02:31.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it's just interesting, I think, to see the very first state of this.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:31.27,0:02:33.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So you can really see the transformation that the plate goes through--
Dialogue: 0,0:02:33.87,0:02:35.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that it's so process oriented.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:36.84,0:02:40.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You could see here she's starting to change the direction of the ear,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:40.52,0:02:41.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in this first one.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:43.82,0:02:45.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is a little further.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:46.12,0:02:48.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Just kind of, you know, it continues.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:49.30,0:02:52.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But this was the final print that was editioned.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:55.42,0:02:57.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And from the very first state, you know,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:57.92,0:03:03.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you can see that there was a huge amount of transformation
Dialogue: 0,0:03:03.98,0:03:05.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and work that goes into it.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:15.15,0:03:17.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[SMITH] Without my glasses, it looks fine.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:19.65,0:03:23.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah, the only thing I don't like are, still, those two lines on the nose.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:24.44,0:03:25.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That they're, like...
Dialogue: 0,0:03:28.21,0:03:31.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Without glasses, everything looks much better.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:35.01,0:03:36.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[WOMAN] Which state is this?
Dialogue: 0,0:03:36.66,0:03:38.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[SMITH] This is fourteenth.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:38.09,0:03:39.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[WOMAN] Fourteenth?
Dialogue: 0,0:03:39.32,0:03:42.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[SMITH] Yeah, we were supposed to finish on the thirteenth.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:42.41,0:03:44.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ALL LAUGH]
Dialogue: 0,0:03:44.26,0:03:46.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[WOMAN] Now we'll finish on his birthday, though.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:46.38,0:03:49.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[SOUND OF SANDPAPER RUBBING AGAINST PLATE]
Dialogue: 0,0:03:49.72,0:03:52.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[SMITH] This is my poor man's aquatint technique. [LAUGHS]
Dialogue: 0,0:03:52.69,0:03:55.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Which is just sanding the plate, which is really...
Dialogue: 0,0:03:55.32,0:03:57.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Every time you do it, then it kind of erases,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:57.66,0:03:59.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So you have to kind of get it and say at one point,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:59.72,0:04:00.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"It's done."
Dialogue: 0,0:04:01.66,0:04:03.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's just a way to add texture.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:04.03,0:04:06.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I really like that you just work really slowly--
Dialogue: 0,0:04:06.52,0:04:07.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you build things up very slowly.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:07.92,0:04:10.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Like, for me, I have to make about a million proofs of everything, and...
Dialogue: 0,0:04:10.86,0:04:12.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They know that I like coming here,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:12.78,0:04:15.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When I came here, they gave me a cup of coffee.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:15.03,0:04:16.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[LAUGHS]
Dialogue: 0,0:04:16.35,0:04:17.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was hooked!
Dialogue: 0,0:04:17.26,0:04:18.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[WOMAN] That's what it's all about.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:18.58,0:04:19.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[SMITH] That's really true.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:19.72,0:04:21.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They made me coffee and I thought,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:21.43,0:04:24.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Oh, this feels really safe here."
Dialogue: 0,0:04:26.40,0:04:28.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I just, I really love printmaking.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:30.18,0:04:31.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's like a mystery, you know,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:31.65,0:04:35.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you're trying to figure out how to rein it in or something.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:36.86,0:04:40.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't know, I find printmaking--and also looking at prints--
Dialogue: 0,0:04:40.68,0:04:42.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just endlessly fascinating.