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Dialogue: 0,0:00:07.24,0:00:12.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Josiah McElheny: Making a Projection Painting]
Dialogue: 0,0:00:25.36,0:00:26.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Today we're at my friend's studio
Dialogue: 0,0:00:26.68,0:00:30.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we're projecting lost footage--\Nor abandoned footage--
Dialogue: 0,0:00:30.27,0:00:33.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by the great filmmaker, Maya Deren.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:36.96,0:00:41.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Long after Deren died, they found the\Nleftover tails of shots
Dialogue: 0,0:00:41.93,0:00:44.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and unused shots that she did complete
Dialogue: 0,0:00:44.28,0:00:47.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that were then preserved as\Njust kind of a reel
Dialogue: 0,0:00:47.57,0:00:49.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with no kind of edit to them.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:00.90,0:01:05.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And what I thought to do was to create\Na sort of performance
Dialogue: 0,0:01:05.55,0:01:07.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in which we would project the film,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:07.96,0:01:12.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then I invited a film crew to come and\Nfilm the film
Dialogue: 0,0:01:12.14,0:01:14.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as it's being projected on the screen.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:20.93,0:01:24.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the idea was to film from the worst seats.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:24.22,0:01:25.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So imagine you're in a theater
Dialogue: 0,0:01:25.75,0:01:28.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where you're stuck five feet in front of\Nthe screen,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:28.95,0:01:30.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so that when you're looking up,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:30.68,0:01:33.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you see all this, kind of, distorted vision.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:37.62,0:01:42.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,One comes from an unfinished and lost film\Ncalled "Witch's Cradle"
Dialogue: 0,0:01:42.95,0:01:46.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in which she collaborated with Anne Matta Clark\Nand Marcel Duchamp
Dialogue: 0,0:01:46.92,0:01:51.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and was filmed at the famous\NArt of the Twentieth Century gallery.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:55.12,0:01:59.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm trying to understand this relationship\Nof abstraction and the body.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:00.94,0:02:06.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She navigates this area between abstraction\Nand the body.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:06.94,0:02:10.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The body becomes almost abstract\Nin some of her works.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:11.92,0:02:15.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In the end, the film will be shown not as\Na film,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:15.33,0:02:18.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but as a painting on a kind of structure
Dialogue: 0,0:02:18.82,0:02:21.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in which the front of the painting\Nis a piece of glass
Dialogue: 0,0:02:21.77,0:02:25.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and behind it is a kind of fractured landscape,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:27.92,0:02:31.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which will then further distort\Non the painting itself.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:32.80,0:02:36.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When we showed narrative film on these\Ndistorting sculptures,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:36.23,0:02:37.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it didn't work at all.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:37.82,0:02:40.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It just looked like we were\Ncommenting on it,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:40.29,0:02:45.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or that you really felt us looking at this\Npreexisting work.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:45.87,0:02:48.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Whereas using the unfinished film,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:48.12,0:02:50.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it transformed itself much easier.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:50.20,0:02:52.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It became something new almost instantly.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:03.36,0:03:05.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That was really interesting to realize
Dialogue: 0,0:03:05.66,0:03:09.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,actually how enviable, in some sense,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:09.03,0:03:11.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,an original work of art can be--
Dialogue: 0,0:03:11.70,0:03:13.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how complete it can be,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:13.55,0:03:15.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you can't, somehow, distort it.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:17.66,0:03:21.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That the unfinished is what felt more malleable.