1 00:00:02,517 --> 00:00:14,389 "We MUST want to rethink how we really live" Sir Kristian Goldmund Aumann 2 00:00:16,529 --> 00:00:18,854 What world do we want to live in? 3 00:00:18,854 --> 00:00:19,734 That' the question. 4 00:00:19,734 --> 00:00:21,684 Not "Can we survive and 5 00:00:21,684 --> 00:00:24,460 can we continue to grow the economy?" 6 00:00:26,051 --> 00:00:28,139 What if we could sustain 7 00:00:28,139 --> 00:00:29,419 business as usual 8 00:00:29,419 --> 00:00:31,316 What if we could install, you know 9 00:00:31,316 --> 00:00:32,900 carbon sucking machines and 10 00:00:32,900 --> 00:00:35,289 bleach the sky with sulfur aerosols 11 00:00:35,289 --> 00:00:37,759 to maintain constant temperatures 12 00:00:37,759 --> 00:00:40,772 and continue to ruin life on earth 13 00:00:40,772 --> 00:00:42,525 until we have a concrete world 14 00:00:42,525 --> 00:00:44,319 with hydroponic factories, 15 00:00:44,319 --> 00:00:46,775 synthetic food and 16 00:00:46,775 --> 00:00:48,806 digital VR displays 17 00:00:48,806 --> 00:00:51,287 of all the nature that's been lost 18 00:00:51,287 --> 00:00:52,860 And rising GDP of the whole time 19 00:00:52,860 --> 00:00:54,178 what if we could do that 20 00:00:54,178 --> 00:00:57,378 Do we want to do that? 21 00:01:06,582 --> 00:01:08,646 The geomechanical view is basically 22 00:01:08,646 --> 00:01:11,253 understands Earth as a complicated machine 23 00:01:11,253 --> 00:01:13,021 So it's like a diesel engine 24 00:01:13,021 --> 00:01:15,012 If the air fuel mixture is wrong 25 00:01:15,012 --> 00:01:17,296 then the engine won't perform well 26 00:01:17,296 --> 00:01:19,919 So if levels of greenhouse gases are too high 27 00:01:19,919 --> 00:01:23,449 then the planet is not going to perform well 28 00:01:25,501 --> 00:01:28,700 Earth as a living being 29 00:01:28,700 --> 00:01:31,928 Whereas if we understand Earth is a living being 30 00:01:31,928 --> 00:01:33,807 then we might say okay 31 00:01:33,807 --> 00:01:36,586 what will make the planet more resilient 32 00:01:36,586 --> 00:01:38,820 to higher levels of greenhouse gases 33 00:01:38,820 --> 00:01:41,208 because I think that if we 34 00:01:41,208 --> 00:01:43,230 cut greenhouse gases to zero 35 00:01:43,230 --> 00:01:44,972 even if we did that overnight 36 00:01:44,972 --> 00:01:48,346 if we continue to degrade the organs 37 00:01:48,346 --> 00:01:50,918 and tissues of this living being 38 00:01:50,918 --> 00:01:54,138 then the planet will die of organ failure 39 00:01:54,138 --> 00:01:57,813 even if carbon dioxide emissions are 40 00:01:57,813 --> 00:01:59,626 reduced to zero 41 00:01:59,626 --> 00:02:01,891 because this is not a machine 42 00:02:09,130 --> 00:02:16,045 CLIMATE A NEW STORY 43 00:02:18,590 --> 00:02:21,211 I'm advocating that we 44 00:02:21,211 --> 00:02:24,873 reformulate our basic environmental narratives 45 00:02:24,873 --> 00:02:27,122 so and especially the climate narrative 46 00:02:27,122 --> 00:02:30,377 so that it comes from the understanding 47 00:02:30,377 --> 00:02:32,160 that Earth is a living being 48 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:34,612 and not a complicated machine 49 00:02:34,929 --> 00:02:36,767 The living planet view is familiar 50 00:02:36,767 --> 00:02:37,779 to a lot of people 51 00:02:37,779 --> 00:02:39,741 because of Gaia theory 52 00:02:39,741 --> 00:02:43,615 that essentially says Earth, if not live, is 53 00:02:43,615 --> 00:02:45,213 like a living being 54 00:02:45,213 --> 00:02:48,182 it maintains homeostasis 55 00:02:48,182 --> 00:02:51,188 it has many qualities of life 56 00:02:52,161 --> 00:02:53,781 Most scientists would not say 57 00:02:53,781 --> 00:02:56,226 that it's actually alive 58 00:02:56,226 --> 00:02:57,803 but I think we need to go 59 00:02:57,803 --> 00:03:00,903 to the place of relating to earth 60 00:03:00,903 --> 00:03:02,188 as a living being 61 00:03:02,188 --> 00:03:04,534 and even a sacred being 62 00:03:09,673 --> 00:03:14,918 PLANETARY HEALTH 63 00:03:14,918 --> 00:03:17,955 So we have a planet that is severely degraded 64 00:03:17,955 --> 00:03:21,042 the rainforests, the mangrove swamps 65 00:03:21,042 --> 00:03:22,910 the wetlands, the kelp forests 66 00:03:22,910 --> 00:03:24,445 the seagrass meadows, 67 00:03:24,445 --> 00:03:26,145 the water, the soil 68 00:03:26,145 --> 00:03:28,162 all of these are at a a fraction of their 69 00:03:28,162 --> 00:03:31,170 former level of vitality and health 70 00:03:31,170 --> 00:03:32,440 which means that 71 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:34,690 this earth is much less able 72 00:03:34,690 --> 00:03:36,498 to maintain 73 00:03:36,498 --> 00:03:38,131 a stable climate 74 00:03:38,131 --> 00:03:41,305 and to deal with whatever challenges and fluctuations 75 00:03:41,305 --> 00:03:43,870 happen whether it's human emissions 76 00:03:43,870 --> 00:03:45,584 CO2 emissions or 77 00:03:45,584 --> 00:03:48,051 volcanic emissions or whatever 78 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:50,944 fluctuations in the Sun 79 00:03:50,944 --> 00:03:54,344 the planet is much less able to be resilient 80 00:03:54,344 --> 00:03:57,732 when its organs are so degraded 81 00:03:57,732 --> 00:03:59,236 so that means that 82 00:03:59,236 --> 00:04:01,246 if we hadn't reduced 83 00:04:01,246 --> 00:04:03,110 our tree count to half 84 00:04:03,110 --> 00:04:04,753 of what used to be 85 00:04:04,753 --> 00:04:06,450 if we hadn't turned 86 00:04:06,450 --> 00:04:10,680 vast areas of every continent into deserts 87 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:14,485 I don't think that 400 ppm would be a problem 88 00:04:14,485 --> 00:04:16,724 but in fact 89 00:04:16,724 --> 00:04:18,156 we've done the opposite 90 00:04:18,156 --> 00:04:22,604 we've made life so so much less able 91 00:04:22,604 --> 00:04:25,678 to handle challenges 92 00:04:25,678 --> 00:04:27,741 that greenhouse gases, I think, 93 00:04:27,741 --> 00:04:30,686 are a serious threat they're very destabilizing 94 00:04:30,686 --> 00:04:32,486 and that's a different view 95 00:04:32,486 --> 00:04:34,678 than the standard global warming 96 00:04:34,678 --> 00:04:36,781 runaway global warming narrative 97 00:04:36,781 --> 00:04:41,105 but it's not entirely contradictory to it either 98 00:04:46,561 --> 00:04:48,888 the production of fossil fuels 99 00:04:48,888 --> 00:04:50,564 also does damage in other ways 100 00:04:50,564 --> 00:04:52,510 that I think ultimately from 101 00:04:52,510 --> 00:04:55,381 the Living Planet View might even be more damaging 102 00:04:55,381 --> 00:04:59,087 the way that it destroys whole ecosystems 103 00:04:59,087 --> 00:05:01,854 I mean you've seen probably the photographs of the 104 00:05:01,854 --> 00:05:03,557 Alberta tar sands 105 00:05:03,557 --> 00:05:06,141 and just the ruin caused 106 00:05:06,141 --> 00:05:07,973 by the more mountain top removal, you know 107 00:05:07,973 --> 00:05:10,926 or the oil spills 108 00:05:10,926 --> 00:05:14,187 when we understand Earth as alive 109 00:05:14,187 --> 00:05:16,498 I mean imagine like that's happening to the cells 110 00:05:16,498 --> 00:05:17,826 and tissues in your body 111 00:05:17,826 --> 00:05:19,599 like whole swaths of them 112 00:05:19,599 --> 00:05:22,604 are getting poisoned and destroyed 113 00:05:22,604 --> 00:05:24,166 then how are you going to maintain 114 00:05:24,166 --> 00:05:26,768 a healthy body temperature 115 00:05:26,768 --> 00:05:29,102 you know, maybe that's extending the metaphor too far 116 00:05:29,102 --> 00:05:32,366 but that's the situation that we'll in 117 00:05:34,554 --> 00:05:41,523 STEPS TO RECOVERY 118 00:05:41,523 --> 00:05:43,031 So from the living planet view 119 00:05:43,031 --> 00:05:44,742 we understand that 120 00:05:44,742 --> 00:05:49,216 the organs of Gaia are essential 121 00:05:49,216 --> 00:05:51,969 especially those that are still intact 122 00:05:51,969 --> 00:05:53,321 like the Amazon 123 00:05:53,321 --> 00:05:55,041 like to some extent the Congo 124 00:05:55,041 --> 00:05:56,379 like some other places on earth 125 00:05:56,379 --> 00:05:58,296 that are smaller but still intact 126 00:05:58,296 --> 00:06:01,050 these are reservoirs of health 127 00:06:01,050 --> 00:06:04,671 these are where Gaia's memory of health 128 00:06:04,671 --> 00:06:06,512 even is located 129 00:06:06,512 --> 00:06:09,416 we need to protect these areas 130 00:06:09,416 --> 00:06:12,234 the Amazon is a living being in and of itself 131 00:06:12,234 --> 00:06:14,844 and we just have a very superficial understanding 132 00:06:14,844 --> 00:06:18,289 of how that inter-relates to to the Gaian physiology 133 00:06:18,289 --> 00:06:21,789 so if you reduce the Amazon to how much carbon 134 00:06:21,789 --> 00:06:23,149 that it sequesters 135 00:06:23,149 --> 00:06:25,234 you're gonna miss out on all of these other 136 00:06:25,234 --> 00:06:27,054 physiological effects 137 00:06:27,054 --> 00:06:29,093 so first priority 138 00:06:29,093 --> 00:06:31,887 these places must be held sacred 139 00:06:31,887 --> 00:06:33,525 if we do not do that 140 00:06:33,525 --> 00:06:36,101 then even if we compensate 141 00:06:36,101 --> 00:06:38,926 for the lost carbon 142 00:06:38,926 --> 00:06:40,577 from the Amazon 143 00:06:40,577 --> 00:06:44,044 this planet is still going to spin out of control 144 00:06:44,044 --> 00:06:46,281 PRIORITY #1: SACRED 145 00:06:47,603 --> 00:06:49,749 second priority is 146 00:06:49,749 --> 00:06:52,700 to repair, regenerate and heal 147 00:06:52,700 --> 00:06:56,536 the organs that have been damaged 148 00:06:56,536 --> 00:06:59,876 particularly forests and soil 149 00:06:59,876 --> 00:07:01,573 soil is probably THE most important 150 00:07:01,573 --> 00:07:02,496 organ of the planet 151 00:07:02,496 --> 00:07:04,861 and of course it's related to the trees 152 00:07:04,861 --> 00:07:06,038 and to the prairies 153 00:07:06,038 --> 00:07:08,690 and to all the other ecosystems 154 00:07:08,690 --> 00:07:12,399 so regenerative agriculture for example 155 00:07:12,399 --> 00:07:14,169 from the carbon lens 156 00:07:14,169 --> 00:07:16,606 you can also justify this 157 00:07:16,606 --> 00:07:18,728 it's probably by far 158 00:07:18,728 --> 00:07:21,426 I would say it's by far the fastest way to 159 00:07:21,426 --> 00:07:23,349 take carbon out of the atmosphere 160 00:07:23,349 --> 00:07:24,825 there are farmers and ranchers out there 161 00:07:24,825 --> 00:07:26,574 who are building topsoil 162 00:07:26,574 --> 00:07:28,408 at just phenomenal rates 163 00:07:28,408 --> 00:07:30,626 in school we learned it takes 500 years 164 00:07:30,626 --> 00:07:32,003 to build an inch of topsoil 165 00:07:32,003 --> 00:07:33,635 but the farmers out there who are doing it 166 00:07:33,635 --> 00:07:35,239 in one year 167 00:07:35,239 --> 00:07:37,533 taking huge amounts of carbon out of the atmosphere 168 00:07:37,533 --> 00:07:39,234 PRIORITY #2: HEAL 169 00:07:40,254 --> 00:07:41,589 so, okay 170 00:07:41,589 --> 00:07:42,953 third priority is 171 00:07:42,953 --> 00:07:44,861 to stop poisoning all the tissues 172 00:07:44,861 --> 00:07:47,687 with herbicides, pesticides, insecticides 173 00:07:47,687 --> 00:07:52,546 toxic wastes, pharmaceutical wastes, sunscreens etc. etc. 174 00:07:52,546 --> 00:07:55,058 that reduces the resiliency of the planet 175 00:07:55,058 --> 00:07:57,592 universally on, like a tissue level 176 00:07:57,592 --> 00:08:00,986 as opposed to an organ level 177 00:08:00,986 --> 00:08:02,227 like we've got to put a halt 178 00:08:02,227 --> 00:08:03,500 to this 90 year experiment 179 00:08:03,500 --> 00:08:05,875 what will happen if we douse the whole landscape 180 00:08:05,875 --> 00:08:07,954 with insecticide 181 00:08:07,954 --> 00:08:09,776 again and again 182 00:08:09,776 --> 00:08:12,433 like, are we surprised now that 183 00:08:12,433 --> 00:08:14,921 insect populations have declined everywhere 184 00:08:14,921 --> 00:08:16,659 it's not just because of that rhough 185 00:08:16,659 --> 00:08:19,985 I think a and really important and unrecognized cause 186 00:08:19,985 --> 00:08:22,800 is the depletion of megafauna 187 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:25,661 that reverberates down through the food chain 188 00:08:25,661 --> 00:08:29,689 so, like we don't even have to understand why 189 00:08:29,689 --> 00:08:31,502 if we're coming from a living Earth perspective 190 00:08:31,502 --> 00:08:33,651 we know that this is important 191 00:08:33,651 --> 00:08:37,459 fourth priority is to reduce fossil fuel emissions 192 00:08:37,919 --> 00:08:42,736 and this is controversial thus I put this as fourth priority 193 00:08:42,736 --> 00:08:45,854 however, if you hold the first three priorities 194 00:08:45,854 --> 00:08:47,290 you're necessarily going to 195 00:08:47,290 --> 00:08:49,081 have to reduce fossil fuel emissions 196 00:08:49,081 --> 00:08:52,503 because you can't hold ecosystem sacred 197 00:08:52,503 --> 00:08:55,502 and continue to frack and drill 198 00:08:55,502 --> 00:08:56,974 and strip mine 199 00:08:56,974 --> 00:08:58,994 and pipeline 200 00:08:58,994 --> 00:09:01,589 so the fourth priority is actually 201 00:09:01,589 --> 00:09:02,920 a product of the other three 202 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:05,608 and it all comes from the same perspective 203 00:09:05,608 --> 00:09:08,314 of "let's do everything we know how to do 204 00:09:08,314 --> 00:09:11,602 to participate in the healing of the planet 205 00:09:11,602 --> 00:09:13,640 that's why we're here 206 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:15,234 at this point in time 207 00:09:15,234 --> 00:09:17,007 first the healing 208 00:09:17,007 --> 00:09:19,715 and then to bring even more life 209 00:09:19,715 --> 00:09:21,875 to this world 210 00:09:28,145 --> 00:09:32,337 TACTICS 211 00:09:32,337 --> 00:09:34,750 I think that the appropriate tactics 212 00:09:34,750 --> 00:09:36,743 vary in every situation 213 00:09:36,743 --> 00:09:39,601 I don't have a formula that you should do this kind of 214 00:09:39,601 --> 00:09:43,043 action here and that kind of action there 215 00:09:43,043 --> 00:09:45,166 but the tactics need to come from 216 00:09:45,166 --> 00:09:48,351 an understanding of what we're serving here 217 00:09:48,351 --> 00:09:49,747 werel serving 218 00:09:49,747 --> 00:09:51,750 yeah, in one level you can say 219 00:09:51,750 --> 00:09:54,578 the protection of life on Earth 220 00:09:54,578 --> 00:09:56,355 or the healing of life on Earth 221 00:09:56,355 --> 00:09:57,968 on another level you might also say 222 00:09:57,968 --> 00:10:01,080 that we'rel serving a change in our deep narratives 223 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:04,274 and our mythology that names who we are 224 00:10:04,274 --> 00:10:05,561 why we'll here 225 00:10:05,561 --> 00:10:07,413 and what's real 226 00:10:07,413 --> 00:10:09,326 so, I think that 227 00:10:09,326 --> 00:10:10,861 part of that understanding 228 00:10:10,861 --> 00:10:12,987 is understanding of each other 229 00:10:12,987 --> 00:10:15,661 and even if the people that we demonize 230 00:10:15,661 --> 00:10:18,608 that actually you are here to serve life, too 231 00:10:18,608 --> 00:10:21,603 and it might be difficult in your situation 232 00:10:21,603 --> 00:10:24,576 but you're the same as I am 233 00:10:24,576 --> 00:10:26,488 instead of demonizing you 234 00:10:26,488 --> 00:10:28,744 and holding you as an irredeemable 235 00:10:28,744 --> 00:10:32,223 polluter or greedy or an enemy 236 00:10:32,223 --> 00:10:34,099 and thinking that the only solution is 237 00:10:34,099 --> 00:10:37,197 going to be to dominate you 238 00:10:37,197 --> 00:10:40,441 to conquer you 239 00:10:40,441 --> 00:10:42,806 to win a battle 240 00:10:42,806 --> 00:10:44,534 by doing that we enemies of people 241 00:10:44,534 --> 00:10:46,699 who wouldn't necessarily have to be enemies 242 00:10:46,699 --> 00:10:48,397 if there were some way to invite them 243 00:10:48,397 --> 00:10:49,938 into alliance 244 00:10:49,938 --> 00:10:52,125 and to speak to that part of themselves 245 00:10:52,125 --> 00:10:54,944 that if they really knew what was happening 246 00:10:54,944 --> 00:10:58,040 they wouldn't want to do that 247 00:10:58,040 --> 00:10:59,671 the despair that a lot of people feel 248 00:10:59,671 --> 00:11:01,296 about the future of this Earth 249 00:11:01,296 --> 00:11:04,470 draws from the same theory of change 250 00:11:04,470 --> 00:11:06,450 and the same understanding of reality 251 00:11:06,450 --> 00:11:08,385 that the problem comes from 252 00:11:08,385 --> 00:11:09,614 basically the theory of changes 253 00:11:09,614 --> 00:11:11,385 that you exerts a force on a mass 254 00:11:11,385 --> 00:11:12,809 of something changes 255 00:11:12,809 --> 00:11:14,386 so the more force you have 256 00:11:14,386 --> 00:11:17,375 the greater power you have to change the world 257 00:11:17,375 --> 00:11:19,095 from that theory of change 258 00:11:19,095 --> 00:11:21,669 sorry, the powers that be in the system 259 00:11:21,669 --> 00:11:23,186 they have a lot more force than you do 260 00:11:23,186 --> 00:11:26,854 and you're never gonna have enough power to change anything 261 00:11:26,854 --> 00:11:28,824 but maybe the world doesn't work like that 262 00:11:28,824 --> 00:11:30,210 like there are other ways 263 00:11:30,210 --> 00:11:31,287 to change the world besides 264 00:11:31,287 --> 00:11:33,806 dominating others by force 265 00:11:33,806 --> 00:11:36,054 for me hope lies in these things 266 00:11:36,054 --> 00:11:38,469 hope lies in understanding that nature 267 00:11:38,469 --> 00:11:40,278 where let's say other beings 268 00:11:40,278 --> 00:11:41,588 can be our allies 269 00:11:41,588 --> 00:11:43,648 because we're tapping into 270 00:11:43,648 --> 00:11:47,868 another world of cause and effect 271 00:11:47,868 --> 00:11:50,475 that puts us in the right place at the right time 272 00:11:50,475 --> 00:11:52,702 saying the right words to the right person 273 00:11:52,702 --> 00:11:56,657 awakening in them what has been awoken in us 274 00:11:56,657 --> 00:11:58,927 bringing them into greater courage 275 00:11:58,927 --> 00:12:01,020 in their service as well 276 00:12:01,020 --> 00:12:03,052 maybe the change happens that way 277 00:12:03,052 --> 00:12:04,262 and when we understand that 278 00:12:04,262 --> 00:12:06,971 we just don't really know how this world works 279 00:12:06,971 --> 00:12:10,603 and if anything, the failure of our civilization 280 00:12:10,603 --> 00:12:11,477 should teach us 281 00:12:11,477 --> 00:12:14,058 that we actually don't know 282 00:12:14,058 --> 00:12:17,335 it should bring us to a point of humility 283 00:12:17,335 --> 00:12:18,810 from that point of humility 284 00:12:18,810 --> 00:12:21,658 anything is possible