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Dialogue: 0,0:00:07.45,0:00:10.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Before Obama there were three indictments.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:11.53,0:00:15.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Obama has brought five in these two years.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:15.98,0:00:19.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If he brought it against Assange, if he did, it would be six,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:19.05,0:00:22.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it would be twice as many as all previous Presidents put together.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:24.51,0:00:25.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And what’s going on here?
Dialogue: 0,0:00:25.68,0:00:30.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well it’s part of a policy of generally, use of state secrets privilege,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:31.05,0:00:35.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,against dismissing lawsuits
Dialogue: 0,0:00:35.43,0:00:40.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,being totally secretive, not being at all forthcoming on freedom of information in terms of,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:40.85,0:00:43.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of these areas.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:43.02,0:00:44.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So it’s part of a policy.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:45.11,0:00:47.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But why more than others, I don’t,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:47.41,0:00:50.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I would be interested to hear anybody’s suggestion.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:50.41,0:00:55.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In fact I think you were [unintelligible] asked, yeah, right Peter…
Dialogue: 0,0:00:55.21,0:00:58.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Why is it that Obama is pressing this so strongly?
Dialogue: 0,0:00:58.82,0:01:01.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is before Wikileaks, remember, except for Bradley.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:02.09,0:01:04.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The previous four were before Wikileaks
Dialogue: 0,0:01:04.77,0:01:08.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and two of them were for acts undertaken under Bush
Dialogue: 0,0:01:09.03,0:01:10.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which Bush had not indicted.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:11.09,0:01:16.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Uh, Thomas Drake and… Shamai Leibowitz, who’s in prison now.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:16.94,0:01:19.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So in other words this, “We’re not looking back,”
Dialogue: 0,0:01:20.03,0:01:22.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,applies to the myriad crimes
Dialogue: 0,0:01:22.86,0:01:26.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the Bush administration, torture, aggressive war,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:26.27,0:01:28.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,warrantless wiretapping…
Dialogue: 0,0:01:29.29,0:01:32.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,crimes that strike at the heart of our Constitution
Dialogue: 0,0:01:32.27,0:01:33.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as well as domestic law.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:33.79,0:01:35.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,No looking back on those.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:35.39,0:01:38.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The only looking back is on whistleblowers.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:39.36,0:01:40.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Drake and Leibowitz
Dialogue: 0,0:01:41.07,0:01:43.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,revealing what they thought were great wasteful practices or…
Dialogue: 0,0:01:43.69,0:01:45.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so there’s a war on whistleblowers.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:45.89,0:01:50.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,To me, and again, why Obama so much, I have a hypothesis, and really
Dialogue: 0,0:01:50.42,0:01:51.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this is just very speculative,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:52.91,0:01:56.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think he’s more, feels more vulnerable
Dialogue: 0,0:01:56.44,0:01:57.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to whistleblowers
Dialogue: 0,0:01:57.75,0:02:00.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,than either his predecessor, because he’s doing many
Dialogue: 0,0:02:00.66,0:02:03.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the same things, one of the great secrets in the cables
Dialogue: 0,0:02:03.06,0:02:05.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,released is how little difference there is
Dialogue: 0,0:02:05.29,0:02:09.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from 2008 to 2009, they’re the same practices, the same torturing,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:10.00,0:02:13.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not that much difference, but Bush was proud of it.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:13.63,0:02:17.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He did it, he did it secretly at first, it was all covert at first,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:17.61,0:02:23.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but when it came out, “Torture? We don’t torture, what we do, we do,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:23.13,0:02:24.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I don’t apologize for it.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:24.81,0:02:28.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,NSA warrantless wiretapping? No problem!”
Dialogue: 0,0:02:30.18,0:02:33.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think Obama’s a little more embarrassed about all that coming out,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:33.22,0:02:36.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that he’s, that he’s acting in the same lines that he has,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:36.36,0:02:41.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a new war that he’s escalating, adding to Bush’s war in Afghanistan,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:41.31,0:02:45.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and he really wants to do what all Presidents have always wanted to do,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:45.92,0:02:49.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,shut down leaks that they don’t control, leaks they don’t make,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:50.93,0:02:54.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I think he’s, I think he’s really doing it more aggressively
Dialogue: 0,0:02:54.77,0:02:57.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,than any previous President, and specifically
Dialogue: 0,0:02:57.33,0:03:00.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he’s doing it by treating the Act that I was charged under
Dialogue: 0,0:03:02.11,0:03:06.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as an Official Secrets Act, as an Act that criminalizes all leaks.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:06.51,0:03:11.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And if he gets a conviction, of any of these people,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:11.88,0:03:15.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not just Manning or Assange, if he gets Drake, or Kim,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:15.89,0:03:19.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if they go up to the Supreme Court, and the Supreme Court takes it
Dialogue: 0,0:03:19.69,0:03:22.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and doesn’t notice that it’s un-Consititutional,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:23.19,0:03:24.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is not a bad bet,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:25.15,0:03:28.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,earlier Courts would almost surely have called it un-Constitutional,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:28.74,0:03:30.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this one might not.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:30.45,0:03:34.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And if he gets that, he has a very broad Official Secrets Act,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:34.16,0:03:38.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and from then on, all he has to do to find out who is
Dialogue: 0,0:03:38.40,0:03:40.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the source of any leak, one day to the next,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:41.65,0:03:43.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with a clear-cut crime,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:43.54,0:03:48.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is to call in the reporter whose byline is on the head of that column and say,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:48.18,0:03:50.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,“We’re not charging you with anything, we’re not against the press,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:50.62,0:03:52.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we’re for the press. Just who committed the crime?"
Dialogue: 0,0:03:54.40,0:03:56.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And if the person can’t take the Fifth Amendment,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:56.56,0:03:58.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he or she is not being charged with anything,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:59.35,0:04:04.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they just either tell, or they go to jail indefinitely for contempt.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:04.27,0:04:08.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Judith Miller lasted 85 days, and some of them will last longer,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:08.94,0:04:11.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but a lot of them won’t, and from then on,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:11.29,0:04:14.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,no source will have any basis for assuming,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:14.93,0:04:16.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or hoping that their,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:16.94,0:04:20.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,their name for whistleblowing will be anonymous,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:21.57,0:04:25.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,their only recourse will be Wikileaks, so Wikileaks matters.