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Dialogue: 0,0:00:00.05,0:00:18.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,♪
Dialogue: 0,0:00:18.25,0:00:22.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Kind of a nice thing...
Dialogue: 0,0:00:29.100,0:00:36.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Experiment #001--Lips]
Dialogue: 0,0:00:36.55,0:00:40.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My name is Tommy Hartung. I make movies.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:40.47,0:00:42.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Tommy Hartung--Artist]
Dialogue: 0,0:00:42.86,0:00:47.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I live and work in Ridgewood, Queens.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:47.38,0:00:53.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,New York Close Up
Dialogue: 0,0:01:00.82,0:01:07.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,["Tommy Hartung's Underground Movies"]
Dialogue: 0,0:01:11.94,0:01:15.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I just moved into a new space this past summer.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:17.57,0:01:25.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I’ve really just been you know sitting in the space and thinking about what...what kind of space do I want to work in?
Dialogue: 0,0:01:25.68,0:01:29.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,♪
Dialogue: 0,0:01:29.77,0:01:36.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was talking to one of my friends and he called it an arena, the studio as like some kind of arena.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:36.77,0:01:44.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I really like that, as a sort of like this place where I’m just you know making a play as I’m making it, you know? And writing it.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:44.95,0:01:52.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,♪
Dialogue: 0,0:01:52.97,0:02:07.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is just raw footage. The storm. And then this is just a ball of plastic wrap maybe around the size of my hand.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:07.97,0:02:15.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And this is just a...or, the clouds made out of battening, the stuff you stuff pillows with.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:19.20,0:02:22.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Experiment #002--Salt]
Dialogue: 0,0:02:22.35,0:02:24.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Cue the salt.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:38.86,0:02:52.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But you know a little...a lot of my planning is just sort of like these kind of experiments and like you know figuring out what the time and the sort of structure is.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:05.05,0:03:13.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I use the...the filmmaking process to document this, you know me acting out these different ideas on objects or you know these little setups or maquettes or dioramas.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:13.42,0:03:21.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Experiment #003--Frog]
Dialogue: 0,0:03:21.25,0:03:32.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,NARRATOR: I would like to be able to tell you of transformation and change to cut deeply into the structure.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:32.24,0:03:45.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But this here now is (INAUDIBLE). We have to touch.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:45.66,0:04:06.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,HARTUNG: I sort of latch on to some kind of external theme, you know. And then I just sort of use that as a structure conceptually and then whatever kind of set or theater that I create in my studio is like the sort of physical space for that idea.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:06.44,0:04:11.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,♪
Dialogue: 0,0:04:11.44,0:04:22.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When we see something you know move, we want to think of it as maybe something is alive but in my movies it’s just typically not the case.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:22.45,0:04:29.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,♪
Dialogue: 0,0:04:29.62,0:04:34.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I’m more interested in like some kind of dead cinema.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:34.81,0:04:39.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,["The Story of Edward Holmes" (2008)]
Dialogue: 0,0:04:39.81,0:04:45.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A lot of animation is describing some kind of real or lifelike situation.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:45.82,0:04:58.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I’m sort of interested more in my characters or any humanesque subjects in the movie. I’m more interested in them being not believable.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:59.01,0:05:03.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And what kind of illusion can you create out of that?
Dialogue: 0,0:05:03.18,0:05:09.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[YELLING]
Dialogue: 0,0:05:16.77,0:05:21.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Experiment #004--Doll]
Dialogue: 0,0:05:26.63,0:05:32.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A lot of the times I just sort of like to move just to touch it all over, just to figure out how I want it to move.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:32.66,0:05:44.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,♪
Dialogue: 0,0:05:44.85,0:05:50.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But I generally like keeping objects open for a lot of different kinds of interpretations.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:50.85,0:05:58.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I’m just sort of interested in like how little we...do we need in a moving image to tell a story.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:58.05,0:06:11.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,♪
Dialogue: 0,0:06:11.05,0:06:18.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Okay, so “Karo Ronnie’s Face” take one. Right. That’s how you guys do it?
Dialogue: 0,0:06:18.05,0:06:24.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We got the Karo....I wonder how much is left?
Dialogue: 0,0:06:24.22,0:06:35.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah, there’s a little bit left. Just a little bit. I don’t want to mess with this paint job up on that too much.