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Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Chris Anderson: Perhaps we could start\Nby just telling us about your country.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's three dots there on the globe.\NThose dots are pretty huge.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think each one is about\Nthe size of California.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Tell us about Kiribati.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Anote Tong: Well, let me first begin\Nby saying how deeply grateful I am
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for this opportunity to share my story\Nwith people who do care.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think I've been sharing my story with\Na lot of people who don't care too much.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But Kiribati is comprised\Nof three groups of islands:
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the Gilbert Group on the west,\Nwe have the Phoenix Islands in the middle,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the Line Islands in the east,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and quite frankly, Kiribati\Nis perhaps the only country
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that is actually\Nin the four corners of the world,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because we are in the Northern Hemisphere,\Nin the Southern Hemisphere,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but also in the east and the west\Nof the International Dateline.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,These islands are entirely\Nmade up of coral atolls,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and on average about\Ntwo meters above sea level.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so this is what we have,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,usually, then, not more\Nthan two kilometers in width.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so, in many occasions,\NI've been asked by people,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"You know, you're suffering,\Nwhy don't you move back?"
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They don't understand.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They have no concept\Nof what it is that's involved.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,With the rising sea, they say,\N"Well, you can move back."
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so this is what I tell them.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If we move back, and we will fall off\Non the other side of the ocean. Okay?
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But these are the kinds of issues\Nthat people don't understand.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,CA: So certainly this is\Njust a picture of fragility there.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When was it that you yourself realized
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that there might be\Nimpending peril for your country?
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,AT: Well, the story of climate change\Nhas been one that has been going on
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for quite a number of decades,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and when I came into office in 2003,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I began talking about climate change\Nat the United Nations General Assembly,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but not with so much passion,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because then there was still\Nthis controversy among the scientists
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,whether it was human-induced,\Nwhether it was real or it wasn't.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But I think that that debate\Nwas fairly much concluded in 2007
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with the Fourth Assessment Report\Nof the IPCC,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which made a categorical statement\Nthat it is real, it's human-induced,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it's predicting some very,\Nvery serious scenarios
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for countries like mine.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so that's when I got very serious.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In the past, I talked about it.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We were worried.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But when the scenarios,\Nthe predictions came in 2007,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it became a real issue for us.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,CA: Now, those predictions are that,\NI think, that by 2100,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sea levels are forecast to rise\Nperhaps three feet.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's scenarios where\Nit's higher than that, for sure,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but what would you say to a skeptic\Nwho said, "What's three feet?
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You're on average six feet\Nabove sea level.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What's the problem?"
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,AT: Well, I think it's got\Nto be understood
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that the marginal rise in sea level
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,would mean a loss of a lot of land,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because much of the land is low.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And quite apart from that,\Nwe are getting the swells at the moment.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So it's not about getting two feet.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think what many people do not understand
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is they think climate change is something\Nthat is happening in the future.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, we're at the very\Nbottom end of the spectrum.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's already with us.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We have communities who already\Nhave been dislocated.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They have had to move,\Nand every parliament session,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm getting complaints\Nfrom different communities
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,asking for assistance to build seawalls
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to see what we can do\Nabout the freshwater lakes
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because it's being destroyed,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and so in my trips\Nto the different islands,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm seeing evidence of communities
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which are now having to cope\Nwith the loss of food crops,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the contamination of the water lands,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I see these communities\Nperhaps leaving, having to relocate,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,within five to 10 years.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,CA: And then, I think the country\Nsuffered its first cyclone,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and this is connected, yes?\NWhat happened here?
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,AT: Well, we're on the equator,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I'm sure many of you understand\Nthat when you're on the equator,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's supposed to be the doldrums.\NWe're not supposed to get the cyclones.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We create them, and then we send them\Neither north or south.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter)
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But they aren't supposed to come back.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But for the first time,\Nat the beginning of this year,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the Cyclone Pam, which destroyed Vanuatu,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and in the process, the very\Nedges of it actually touched
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,our two southernmost islands,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and all of Tuvalu was underwater\Nwhen Hurricane Pam struck.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But for our two southernmost islands,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we had waves come over half the island,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and so this has never happened before.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's a new experience.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I've just come back\Nfrom my own constituency,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I've seen these beautiful trees\Nwhich have been there for decades,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they've been totally destroyed.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So this is what's happening, but when\Nwe talk about the rising sea level,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we think it's something\Nthat happens gradually.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It comes with the winds,\Nit comes with the swells,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and so they can be magnified,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but what we are beginning to witness\Nis the change in the weather pattern,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is perhaps the more urgent challenge
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that we will face sooner\Nthan perhaps the rising sea level.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,CA: So the country is already\Nseeing effects now.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,As you look forward,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what are your options\Nas a country, as a nation?
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,AT: Well, I've been telling\Nthis story every year.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think I visit a number,\NI've been traveling the world
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to try and get people to understand.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We have a plan. We think we have a plan,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and one occasion, I think\NI spoke in Geneva
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and there was a gentleman\Nwho was interviewing me
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on something like this,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I said, "Yeah, we are looking\Nat floating islands,"
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and he thought it was funny,\Nbut somebody said,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"No, this is not funny.\NThese people are looking for solutions."
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so I have been looking\Nat floating islands.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The Japanese are interested\Nin building floating islands.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But we have, as a country,\Nwe have made a commitment
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that no matter what happens,\Nwe will try as much as possible
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to stay and continue\Nto exist as a nation.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What that will take,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's going to be something\Nquite significant,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,very, very substantial.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Either we live on floating islands,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or we have to build up the islands\Nto continue to stay out of the water
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as the sea level rises\Nand as the storms get more severe.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But even that, it's going to be\Nvery, very difficult
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to get the kind of resourcing\Nthat we would need.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,CA: And then the only recourse\Nis some form of forced migration.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,AT: Well, we are also looking at that,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because in the event\Nthat nothing comes forward
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from the international community,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we are preparing, we don't want to be\Ncaught like what's happening in Europe.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Okay? We don't want to mass migrate\Nat some point in time.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We want to be able to give the people\Nthe choice today,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,those who choose and want\Nto do that, to migrate.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We don't want something to happen\Nthat they are forced to migrate
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,without having been prepared to do so.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Of course, our culture is very different,\Nour society is very different,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and once we migrate\Ninto a different environment,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and a different culture,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there's a whole lot of adjustments\Nthat are required.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,CA: Well, there's forced migration\Nin your country's past,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I think just this week, just yesterday\Nor the day before yesterday,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you visited these people.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What happened here?\NWhat's the story here?
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,AT: Yes, and I'm sorry,\NI think somebody was asking
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,why we were sneaking off\Nto visit that place?
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I had a very good reason because we have\Na community of Kiribati people
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,living in that part\Nof the Solomon Islands,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but these were people who were relocated\Nfrom the Phoenix Islands, in fact,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the 1960s.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There was serious drought, and the people\Ncould not continue to live on the island,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and so they were moved to live here\Nin the Solomon Islands,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and so yesterday it was very interesting\Nto meet with these people.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They didn't know who I was.\NThey had heard of me.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Some of them later recognized me,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I think they were very happy.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Later they really wanted to have\Nthe opportunity to welcome me formally.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But I think what I saw yesterday\Nwas very interesting,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because here I see our people.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I spoke in our language,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and of course they spoke back,\Nthey replied,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but their accent, they are beginning\Nnot to be able to speak Kiribati properly.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I saw them. There was\Nthis lady with red teeth.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She was chewing betel nuts,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it's not something we do in Kiribati.\NWe don't chew betel nuts.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I met also a family who have married\Nthe local people here,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and so this is what is happening.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,As you go into another community,\Nthere are bound to be changes.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There is bound to be\Na certain loss of identity,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and this is what we will be\Nlooking for in the future
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if and when we do migrate.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,CA: It must have been\Njust an extraordinarily emotional day,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because of these questions about identity,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the joy of seeing you and perhaps\Nan emphasized sense of what they had lost.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it's very inspiring to hear you say\Nyou're going to fight to the end
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to try to preserve the nation\Nin a location.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,AT: This is our wish.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Nobody wants ever to leave their home,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and so it's been a very\Ndifficult decision for me.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,As a leader, you don't make plans\Nto leave your island, your home,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and so I've been asked\Non a number of occasions,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"So how do you feel?"
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it doesn't feel good at all.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's an emotional thing,\Nand I've tried to live with it,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I know that on occasions, I'm accused\Nof not trying to solve the problem
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because I can't solve the problem.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's something that's got\Nto be done collectively.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Climate change is a global phenomenon,\Nand as I've often argued,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,unfortunately, the countries,\Nwhen we come to the United Nations,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was in a meeting with\Nthe Pacific Island Forum countries
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where Australia and New Zealand\Nare also members,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we had an argument.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There was a bit of a story in the news,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because they were arguing\Nthat to cut emissions,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it would be something\Nthat they're unable to do,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because it would affect the industries.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so here I was saying,\N"Okay, I hear you,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I understand what you're saying,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but try also to understand\Nwhat I'm saying,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because if you do not cut your emissions,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then our survival is on the line.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so it's a matter for you\Nto weigh this, these moral issues.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's about industry as opposed to\Nthe survival of a people.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,CA: You know, I ask you yesterday\Nwhat made you angry,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you said, "I don't get angry."\NBut then you paused.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think this made you angry.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,AT: I'd refer you to my earlier\Nstatement at the United Nations.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was very angry, very frustrated,\Nand then depressed.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There was a sense of futility\Nthat we are fighting a fight
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that we have no hope of winning.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I had to change my approach.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I had to become more reasonable,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because I thought people would listen\Nto somebody who was rational,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I remain radically rational,\Nwhatever that is.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter)
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,CA: Now, a core part\Nof your nation's identity is fishing.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think you said pretty much everyone\Nis involved in fishing in some way.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,AT: Well, we eat fish\Nevery day, every day,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I think there is no doubt\Nthat our rate of consumption of fish
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is perhaps the highest in the world.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We don't have a lot of livestock,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so it's fish that we depend on.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,CA: So you're dependent on fish,\Nboth at the local level
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and for the revenues\Nthat the country receives
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from the global fishing business for tuna,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and yet despite that, a few years ago\Nyou took a very radical step.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Can you tell us about that?
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think something happened\Nright here in the Phoenix Islands.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,AT: Let me give some of the background\Nof what fish means for us.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We have one of the largest\Ntuna fisheries remaining in the world.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In the Pacific, I think we own\Nsomething like 60 percent
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the remaining tuna fisheries,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it remains relatively healthy\Nfor some species, but not all.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And Kiribati is one of of the three\Nmajor tuna resource owners.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And at the moment, we have been getting
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,something like 80 to 90\Npercent of our revenue
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from access fees, license fees.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,CA: Of your national revenue.\NAT: National revenue,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which drives everything that we do
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in governments, hospitals,\Nschools, and what have you.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But we decided to close this,\Nand it was a very difficult decision.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Politically, locally, it was not easy,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I was convinced\Nthat we had to do this
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to ensure that the fishery\Nremains sustainable.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There had been some indications\Nthat some of the species,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in particular the bigeye tuna,\Nwas under serious threat.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The yellowfin was also heavily fished.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Skipjack remains healthy.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so we had to do something like that,\Nand so that was the reason I did that.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Another reason I did that
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was because I had been asking\Nthe international community
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that in order to deal with climate change,\Nin order to fight climate change,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there has got to be sacrifice,\Nthere has got to be commitment.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So in asking the international community\Nto make a sacrifice,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I thought we ourselves\Nneed to make that sacrifice.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so we made the sacrifice.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that, forgoing commercial fishing\Nin the Phoenix Islands protect area
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,would mean a loss of revenue.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We are still trying to assess\Nwhat that loss would be,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because we actually closed it off\Nat the beginning of this year,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and so we will see by the end of this year
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what it means in terms\Nof the lost revenue.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,CA: so there's so many things\Nplaying into this.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,On the one hand, it may prompt\Nhealthier fisheries.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean, how much are you able\Nto move the price up
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that you charge for the remaining areas?
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,AT: The negotiations\Nhave been very difficult,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but we have managed to raise\Nthe cost of a vessel day.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For any vessel to come in\Nto fish for a day,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we have raised the fee from,\Nit was $6,000 and $8,000,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,now to $10,000, $12,000 per vessel day.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so there's been\Nthat significant increase.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But at the same time,\Nwhat's important to note is,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,whereas in the past these fishing boats
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,might be fishing in a day\Nand maybe catch 10 tons,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,now they're catching maybe 100 tons\Nbecause they've become so efficient.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so we've got to respond likewise.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We've got to be very, very careful\Nbecause the technology has so improved.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There was a time when the Brazilian fleet\Nmoved from the Atlantic to the Pacific.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They couldn't. They started experimenting\Nif they could, per se.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But now they've got ways of doing it,\Nand they've become so efficient.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,CA: Can you give us just a sense\Nof what it's like in those negotiations,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because you're up against companies
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that have hundreds of millions\Nof dollars at stake, essentially.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How do you hold the line?
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Is there any advice you can give\Nto other leaders who are dealing
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with the same companies about how\Nto get the most for your country,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,get the most for the fish?
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What advice would you give?
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,AT: Well, I think we focus\Ntoo often on licensing
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in order to get the rate of return,\Nbecause what we are getting
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from license fees is about 10 percent\Nof the landed value of the catch
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on the side of the wharf,\Nnot in the retail shops.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we only get about 10 percent.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What we have been trying\Nto do over the years
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is actually to increase\Nour participation in the industry,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the harvesting, in the processing,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and eventually hopefully the marketing.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They're not easy to penetrate,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but we are working towards that,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and yes, the answer would be to enhance.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In order to increase our rate of return,\Nwe have to become more involved.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so we've started doing that,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we have to restructure the industry.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We've got to tell these people\Nthat the world has changed.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now we want to produce the fish ourselves.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,CA: And meanwhile,\Nfor your local fishermen,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they are still able to fish,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but what is business like for them?
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Is it getting harder?\NAre the waters depleted?
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Or is that being run\Non a sustainable basis?
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,AT: For the artisanal fishery,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we do not participate\Nin the commercial fishing activity
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,except only to supply the domestic market.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The tuna fishery is really entirely\Nfor the foreign market,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,mostly here in the US, Europe, Japan.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I am a fisherman, very much,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I used to be able to catch yellowfin.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now it's very, very rare\Nto be able to catch yellowfin
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because they are being lifted\Nout of the water by the hundreds of tons
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by these sailors.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,CA: So here's a couple\Nof beautiful girls from your country.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean, as you think about their future,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what message would you have for them
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and what message would you have\Nfor the world?
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,AT: Well, I've been telling the world\Nthat we really have to do something
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about what is happening to the climate,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because for us, it's about\Nthe future of these children.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have 12 grandchildren, at least.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think I have 12. My wife knows.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter)
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I think I have eight children.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's about their future.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Every day I see my grandchildren,\Nabout the same age as these young girls,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I do wonder,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I get angry sometimes, yes I do.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I wonder what is to become of them.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so it's about them
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that we should be telling everybody,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that it's not about\Ntheir own national interest,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because climate change,\Nregrettably, unfortunately,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is viewed by many countries\Nas a national problem. It's not.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And this is the argument we got into\Nrecently with our partners,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the Australians and New Zealanders,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because they said we can't cut any more.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is what one of the leaders,\Nthe Australian leader, said,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that we've done our part,\Nwe are cutting back.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I said, what about the rest?\NWhy don't you keep it?
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you could keep\Nthe rest of your emissions
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,within your boundaries, within\Nyour borders, we'd have no question.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You can go ahead as much as you like.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But unfortunately,\Nyou're sending it our way,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it's affecting the future\Nof our children,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and so surely I think that is the heart\Nof the problem of climate change today.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We will be meeting in Paris\Nat the end of this year,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but until we can think of this\Nas a global phenomenon,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because we create it,\Nindividually, as nations,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but it affects everybody else,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and yet, we refuse to do\Nanything about it,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we deal with it as a national problem,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which it is not. It is a global issue,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it's got to be dealt with\Ncollectively.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,CA: People are incredibly bad\Nat responding to graphs
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and numbers, and we shut our minds to it.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Somehow, to people, we're slightly better\Nat resonding to that sometimes.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it seems like it's very possible\Nthat your nation, despite,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,well actually because of\Nthe intense problems you face,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you may yet be the warning light\Nto the world that shines most visibly,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,most powerful.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I just want to thank you, I'm sure,\Non behalf of all of us, actually,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for your extraordinary leadership\Nand for being here.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Mr. President, thank you.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Applause)