WEBVTT 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 I'm Solveig. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Here you have my contact info. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 I use Free Software and especially Debian since quite some time now 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and I also contribute to Tails 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 so my interests are in privacy… 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 No? Yes? Do you hear me? 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 I do some non-developer things 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and in Debian I found a way to contribute without coding 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 or maintaining packages which is to triage bugs. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Bug triaging, it helps, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 it's kind of non visible but it helps Debian as a whole 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 because maintainers don't always have the time to deal 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 with all their bug reports, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 some packages have a lot of bug reports, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 like the kernel or Xorg. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Also, it's a good way to improve the package quality. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 When some packages have a lot of bugs open against them, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 it can make it harder for the maintainers to know which ones are 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 solvable, actionable, and they can get a bit over their head. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 So when you triage bugs, you help everybody have a better experience 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 with Debian. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 So, you want to do it. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 First, it's easy. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 You don't need to learn any new tool supposing you already know 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 how to read and write e-mail. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 So that's a low threshold to start. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 It's very rewarding, the maintainers are happy when you help them, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 even if you don't touch their packages, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 if you sort their bugs, they'll be happy and the users who submitted them 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 will be happy that somebody looked at them 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 so it can be very joyful. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Also, you search random bugs for packages you don't necessarily know, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 so you learn about a lot of software in Debian and 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 some of them are really really surprising and you… 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 "Wha? What does this do?" and that's kind of fun. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 And of course, it saves kittens. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 On this page, there's a… 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 The bug triage page is a howto page I made some years ago, with tips 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and this part, especially, has a list of teams that added themselves 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 so that they want you to help sort their bugs. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Those are the teams I worked with, they're really really nice, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 they don't bite. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 They will let you know if you did an error, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 they will answer your questions, you can work together. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 I don't recommend closing random bugs. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 If you go and touch packages from people you have not warned 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 or who are not willing to have somebody touch their bugs, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 you might have backfire. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 To start, I think it's good to go packages that you know people are happy 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 if you help with. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 The first tool to triage bugs is UDD. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 I don't know if you've ever tried it, the interface is really great. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Here, that's UDD. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 So it's a bit arid like this, but 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 it allows you to select many many types of packages, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 we can see that later. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Then you can choose a team or other criteria 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and when you're happy about your criteria, you search. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 It will give you a list of packages corresponding to your criteria 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and you can select some more info you want listed here. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 So, that's UDD search. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 I usually ignore the bug reports that somebody has searched in the last year. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Probably somebody else will look at them, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 let's look at those that are lost in the limbos. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 I select wontfix, moreinfo, upstream or unreproducible. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Those are those that probably you can do something on. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 And then you chose a team, preferably one of those that is listed 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 in the page we saw before. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Once you'll have selected a bug and something to do on it, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 you'll have to document what you do. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Because you can change many many stuff on the bug, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 you send the commands to control@bugs.debian.org 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 but it's always nice to put a small a small sentence, or 2 or 3 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 to say what made you conclude that is the right change. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Also make sure the e-mail where you do the commands is sent 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 to everybody interested, because by default it only sends it 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 to the maintainer and the submitter in some cases. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 So if other people answered the bug report saying 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 "Hey, I have the bug too" or if upstream came by to explain something, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 it's good to see all of those who interacted on the bug report and 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 put them all in copy. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Ideally, people can receive the e-mail, read what you're saying and 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 don't have to go back to the bug page to read it again. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 So that you should sum up the thread if it was long and have them know everything. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 If you do massive triage, you should have a few generic messages 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 so you keep the messages and just replace the words as needed. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 It saves you a lot of time. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Also, it allows you to put a lot of nice things in your generic e-mail 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 that people are always happy to read without more effort. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 You know, add a little "Thanks for submitting the bug" or 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 "That was a very interesting discussion" or something like that. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Let's keep the positive energy flowing. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 There are many ways to triage. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 One of them is trying to reproduce bug reports. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 In the UDD we saw earlier, if you select 'unreproducible' 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Oh no… those that don't have the tag 'confirmed', 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 these are bugs that one person submitted but nobody knows if they're really 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 still up to date or if it's just, somebody submitted it but… 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 If it's confirmed, there's more chance that the maintainer will look at them. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 If they're really old, maybe they have been corrected and nobody bothered 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 to close the bug. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 If they're new, maybe you should have them too, so see if it's the case. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 If it's the case, you write to this adress 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 the 'nnn' is the number of the bug and you add the tag 'confirmed' 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 That's how we interact with control@b.d.o 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 All the bug tracking is on a e-mail interface 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 'found bugnumber versionnumber' 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 that's a command that control will recognize, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 you give the bug number and what version you're running. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 You add the tag 'confirmed'. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Since you found it, you're 2, so it's confirmed. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 And 'thanks', you always have to end your e-mails to control with 'thanks' 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 or 'thank you' or whatever variation of it you want. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 The control is a very very polite beast and likes you to be the same. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 If you don't put politeness, it won't work. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Actually it's to tell them that the commands are done, but 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 let's be polite also with machines.