1 00:00:11,322 --> 00:00:14,120 IÑIGO MANGLANO-OVALLE: If art for me is a platform from which to speak, 2 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:15,680 but not tell you something? 3 00:00:15,680 --> 00:00:17,018 That’s good. 4 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:31,560 And if that’s a way in which I give you a  platform from which to think and debate it, 5 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:37,389 that’s even better, because ultimately  art for me does not reside in the object, 6 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:40,748 it resides in what’s said about the object. 7 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:47,548 All my work, even the most formal work, has... 8 00:00:48,622 --> 00:00:52,565 an underlying politics to it. 9 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:57,526 But I don’t want to reveal my position. 10 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:03,505 In LE BAISER or “the Kiss” 11 00:01:04,378 --> 00:01:10,120 I’m washing windows in Mies van der Rohe’s  Fansworth House out in Plano, Illinois. 12 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:16,519 The camera outside is always mic-ed to  the sound of the squeegee on the glass. 13 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:21,480 And it’s very sort of ambient in  one way and then very physical. 14 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:26,260 The squeegee squeaks and  sarcastically kisses the building. 15 00:01:26,260 --> 00:01:27,360 (MUSIC) 16 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:31,600 Whenever the camera is inside the  pane of glass or inside the building, 17 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:34,480 there’s an ethereal sort of electronic music 18 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:39,359 which is a single moment of a  guitar solo by the band KISS, 19 00:01:39,762 --> 00:01:42,960 and then that little guitar, nanosecond, 20 00:01:42,960 --> 00:01:49,502 is stretched to make the sound piece or  the score for all the interior shots. 21 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:54,880 I have a strong connection  to architecture in my work. 22 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:59,069 At a very young age I was taken by  my parents to see Mies’ architecture. 23 00:01:59,920 --> 00:02:05,880 For me, on one level, the piece was just  about visiting a shrine of modernity. 24 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:10,396 It was about trying to figure out a  way to actually touch the building. 25 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:14,120 You’re three things as the actor. 26 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:17,824 You’re artist, you’re  laborer, and you’re architect. 27 00:02:18,920 --> 00:02:21,000 You’re artist because you’re making the film 28 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:23,200 and because sometimes when  you’re washing the windows 29 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:29,400 the camera is watching your hand make a gesture. 30 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:32,996 Almost a painting gesture across the pane. 31 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:36,440 You’re also just simply washing a window. 32 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:38,040 So it’s mundane. 33 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:41,229 And, then you’re outside the  building tending to its form. 34 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:43,040 So you’re the architect. 35 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:48,720 And inside is a young woman  spinning some discs on a platform 36 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:51,920 with headphones being separated by the… 37 00:02:51,920 --> 00:02:55,000 a thin skin of transparency. 38 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:57,610 But ultimately total separation. 39 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:00,840 The female actor at one moment in the piece 40 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:04,182 actually raises her eyes and  looks straight into the camera, 41 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:09,400 thereby looks into the viewer of the  installation and acknowledges them or says, 42 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:12,640 I see you and that’s the one moment for me that 43 00:03:12,640 --> 00:03:15,261 she’s able to penetrate through the architecture. 44 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:20,840 Of course LE BAISER is about love, 45 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:23,562 but it’s a kind of restrained love. 46 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:34,302 I thought what we would do  is run through the edit. 47 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:40,920 The School of Architecture  in Chicago auctioned off 48 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:44,680 breaking the windows at the  Mies van der Rohe’s Crown Hall. 49 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:47,712 They were going to renovate, put new glass in. 50 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:56,658 As it turns out, the winner of the auction  is Mies’s grandson who is also an architect. 51 00:03:57,978 --> 00:04:00,960 I was interested in this whole  notion of almost like patricide, 52 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:05,000 you know the son breaking the father’s temple. 53 00:04:17,840 --> 00:04:20,880 The show in New York is a show that I think is 54 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:23,520 kind of difficult to negotiate 55 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:29,720 because there is no apparent sort of common theme. 56 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:35,880 I’ve been wanting to make  this umbrella for a long time. 57 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:40,960 When you actually look at an umbrella,  there’s so many complex curves in that fabric. 58 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:44,040 There are so many parabolic equations. 59 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:46,160 It’s very much like a flower. 60 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:50,000 That’s probably one of the best  designs out there in the world. 61 00:04:53,879 --> 00:05:00,199 I enlisted the help of a fabricator that  does prototypes for stealth bombers. 62 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:02,680 It’s called BULLETPROOF UMBRELLA. 63 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:04,360 And it’s exactly that. 64 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:09,560 It’s made out of graphite and  Kevlar and space age materials. 65 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:14,120 So I think it actually responds in  many ways to the climate of our times. 66 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:16,444 Although it does it very quietly. 67 00:05:17,003 --> 00:05:19,240 My mother would freak out. 68 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:20,940 She’s from Bogotá and… 69 00:05:20,940 --> 00:05:27,364 and an open umbrella indoors is like  bad luck for the rest of your life. 70 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:33,240 The jack, very much like the  umbrella takes an every day object 71 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:38,320 and sort of scales it up  and deforms one axis of it. 72 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:40,140 What you end up having is this, 73 00:05:40,140 --> 00:05:46,548 it’s almost like missile that points up  and almost touches the ceiling itself. 74 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:54,400 There are many connections between  these things and I think it’s just, 75 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:57,803 for me important not to make it readily apparent. 76 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:02,841 This sort of troublesome  condition is what I’m looking for. 77 00:06:03,982 --> 00:06:07,816 On a very, sort of, formal sense,  the exhibition is all about color. 78 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:13,680 So the red film on the window  of the gallery is a work itself. 79 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:17,520 It’s called FROM RED TO ORANGE AND ORANGE TO RED. 80 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:21,547 Going from high alert to not so high alert. 81 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:35,640 I’ve been very interested in weather patterns that  occur both inside and outside of architecture. 82 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:37,560 In the case of RANDOM SKY in Chicago, 83 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:41,160 the weather station is outside  and takes the temperature, 84 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:44,080 barometric pressure, wind speed, wind direction. 85 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:48,680 All these streams of data connect  directly to a set of computers 86 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:54,902 that are running a program that generates  these blue and white scan lines. 87 00:06:56,200 --> 00:07:01,000 When I decided to do this  project I met Mark Hereld, 88 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:04,385 an astrophysicist at Argon National Labs. 89 00:07:05,347 --> 00:07:09,200 MARK HERELD: I was asked originally  to help the Hyde Park Arts Center 90 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:12,028 figure out how to build this façade. 91 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:17,080 We have a large effort in what’s  called scientific visualization, 92 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:21,400 we think about ways to sort of  tame these herds of computers 93 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:24,200 that are intended present environments 94 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:26,760 that are large enough that  people can step into them, 95 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:30,280 become directly involved with  what’s being put out on the screen. 96 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:36,116 The outside world is coupling  to this internal universe. 97 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:40,173 So there is a kind of little  bit of a living ecology there. 98 00:07:41,895 --> 00:07:45,640 MANGLANO-OVALLE: We got to a certain  point where I needed to consider sound, 99 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:48,480 and in this case I worked with a young artist 100 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:49,760 by the name of Rick Gribenas 101 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:52,150 who is an artist as well as a composer. 102 00:07:54,745 --> 00:07:57,680 RICK GRIBENAS: RANDOM SKY is really  just an examination of this building 103 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:00,520 and its architecture and the  space that is contained within it 104 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:02,134 and the space that kind of surrounds it. 105 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:04,880 It’s definitely an exploration. 106 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:06,720 It’s a, you know, the kind of great lengths that 107 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:09,360 we as humans go through to kind  of understand our environment 108 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:11,820 and kind of adjust our environment. 109 00:08:12,849 --> 00:08:16,720 MANGLANO-OVALLE: RANDOM SKY  addresses that idea of the arbitrary 110 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:19,520 or the randomness or the uncontrollable, 111 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:23,668 the impossibility of our desire for stability. 112 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:31,080 CLOUD PROTOTYPE #1 was a thunderstorm 113 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:36,702 that was captured by the department of  atmospheric sciences at University of Illinois. 114 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:41,840 I watched the three-dimensional  data development as a storm 115 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:44,351 and at a certain moment I said, “Right there. 116 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:46,587 That’s the moment I want.” 117 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:49,720 It’s about stopping time. 118 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:52,855 It was just before the storm erupts. 119 00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:58,267 Capturing ephemera is an impossibility. 120 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:01,800 And in the end you really  haven’t captured ephemera, 121 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:03,188 you’ve made a sculpture. 122 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:11,400 The space between things is just as important 123 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:15,403 or more important than the  space that things occupy. 124 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:18,240 Once you enter the exhibition, 125 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:22,080 this little infrared video  of my son at five months old 126 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:25,160 is neglected by you because  as soon as you walk in, 127 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:27,413 you see the iceberg in the cloud. 128 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:34,240 Another sculpture is so  miniscule you can step on it. 129 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:37,080 Red Fist and it’s in a central location, 130 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:39,647 it’s dismissed by the viewer. 131 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:44,880 Red Fist actually came about playing  with my son a year-old with Play dough, 132 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:48,234 it’s all about just grabbing  things and holding them. 133 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:50,200 So I would roll little balls 134 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:51,400 and he would grab them 135 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:52,320 and we squished them 136 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:54,080 and his hand would open up 137 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:56,480 and I would see this glorious, like, 138 00:09:56,480 --> 00:10:00,000 shape that’s made by his fist. 139 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:04,800 SEARCH was a piece where the  architecture of the site, 140 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:08,680 this bullfight ring down in  Tijuana sort of called it forth. 141 00:10:08,680 --> 00:10:13,698 I mean the bullfight ring already looked  like a speaker facing up into the sky. 142 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:19,840 The bullfight ring was  converted into a radio telescope 143 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:24,882 that would search for the real aliens only  fifty meters south of the U.S. border. 144 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:29,080 And for me it was a joke. 145 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:31,960 I wanted to do a piece about alienation 146 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:34,760 and about UFOs and about the alien 147 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:36,013 and about immigration. 148 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:44,680 When I first came to United States as a baby, 149 00:10:44,680 --> 00:10:48,400 you know I came in as a resident alien. 150 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:52,200 And SEARCH was titled SEARCH (EN BÚSQUEDA), 151 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:55,150 the subtitle was Searching for the Real Aliens. 152 00:10:56,560 --> 00:11:03,868 In Tijuana everybody from cab drivers  to artists to politicians got the joke. 153 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:08,520 I grew up with parents that were always 154 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:14,640 having to shift the family from  Madrid to Bogotá to the United States, 155 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:17,760 so the world was very small at a very young age 156 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:22,173 and I almost had to learn that there were borders. 157 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:26,080 The General Service Administration asked me 158 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:30,920 to propose a work for the Immigration  Naturalization Service Building. 159 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:33,080 Now it’s part of Homeland Security. 160 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:34,360 I actually like the idea, 161 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:37,040 because a whole host of  people that I know have been 162 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:40,532 through that building as what they call clients. 163 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:44,800 So LA TORMENTA, these two clouds, or THE STORM, 164 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:47,480 there’s a kind of critique that’s going on there 165 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:50,360 because it’s a storm system that arrives 166 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:56,640 and historically all waves of  immigration to the U.S. have been storms. 167 00:11:56,640 --> 00:12:00,040 And have gone through  turbulence, upon their arrival, 168 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:02,080 and have caused turbulence 169 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:06,200 and all of those waves come  with a great deal of hope, 170 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:08,176 and a great deal of anxiety. 171 00:12:09,228 --> 00:12:11,080 And that’s what a thunderstorm is. 172 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:17,304 It’s one of the most destructive  and most productive events. 173 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:20,800 It was about the duality of that, 174 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:22,931 and duality of hope and anxiety 175 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:30,096 and the fact that the piece in a  sense reflects its public in a way, 176 00:12:31,752 --> 00:12:33,840 you know that they are the storm. 177 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:36,717 La Tormenta somos nosotros.