0:00:11.322,0:00:14.120 IÑIGO MANGLANO-OVALLE:[br]If art for me is a platform from which to speak, 0:00:14.120,0:00:15.680 but not tell you something? 0:00:15.680,0:00:17.018 That’s good. 0:00:26.360,0:00:31.560 And if that’s a way in which I give you a [br]platform from which to think and debate it, 0:00:31.560,0:00:37.389 that’s even better, because ultimately [br]art for me does not reside in the object, 0:00:37.680,0:00:40.748 it resides in what’s said about the object. 0:00:45.200,0:00:47.548 All my work, even the most formal work, has... 0:00:48.622,0:00:52.565 an underlying politics to it. 0:00:54.400,0:00:57.526 But I don’t want to reveal my position. 0:01:01.200,0:01:03.505 In LE BAISER or “the Kiss” 0:01:04.378,0:01:10.120 I’m washing windows in Mies van der Rohe’s [br]Fansworth House out in Plano, Illinois. 0:01:10.120,0:01:16.519 The camera outside is always mic-ed to [br]the sound of the squeegee on the glass. 0:01:17.280,0:01:21.480 And it’s very sort of ambient in [br]one way and then very physical. 0:01:21.480,0:01:26.260 The squeegee squeaks and [br]sarcastically kisses the building. 0:01:26.260,0:01:27.360 (MUSIC) 0:01:27.360,0:01:31.600 Whenever the camera is inside the [br]pane of glass or inside the building, 0:01:31.600,0:01:34.480 there’s an ethereal sort of electronic music 0:01:34.480,0:01:39.359 which is a single moment of a [br]guitar solo by the band KISS, 0:01:39.762,0:01:42.960 and then that little guitar, nanosecond, 0:01:42.960,0:01:49.502 is stretched to make the sound piece or [br]the score for all the interior shots. 0:01:50.800,0:01:54.880 I have a strong connection [br]to architecture in my work. 0:01:54.880,0:01:59.069 At a very young age I was taken by [br]my parents to see Mies’ architecture. 0:01:59.920,0:02:05.880 For me, on one level, the piece was just [br]about visiting a shrine of modernity. 0:02:05.880,0:02:10.396 It was about trying to figure out a [br]way to actually touch the building. 0:02:12.320,0:02:14.120 You’re three things as the actor. 0:02:14.120,0:02:17.824 You’re artist, you’re [br]laborer, and you’re architect. 0:02:18.920,0:02:21.000 You’re artist because you’re making the film 0:02:21.000,0:02:23.200 and because sometimes when [br]you’re washing the windows 0:02:23.200,0:02:29.400 the camera is watching your hand make a gesture. 0:02:29.400,0:02:32.996 Almost a painting gesture across the pane. 0:02:33.600,0:02:36.440 You’re also just simply washing a window. 0:02:36.440,0:02:38.040 So it’s mundane. 0:02:38.040,0:02:41.229 And, then you’re outside the [br]building tending to its form. 0:02:41.520,0:02:43.040 So you’re the architect. 0:02:43.040,0:02:48.720 And inside is a young woman [br]spinning some discs on a platform 0:02:48.720,0:02:51.920 with headphones being separated by the… 0:02:51.920,0:02:55.000 a thin skin of transparency. 0:02:55.000,0:02:57.610 But ultimately total separation. 0:02:58.080,0:03:00.840 The female actor at one moment in the piece 0:03:00.840,0:03:04.182 actually raises her eyes and [br]looks straight into the camera, 0:03:05.480,0:03:09.400 thereby looks into the viewer of the [br]installation and acknowledges them or says, 0:03:09.400,0:03:12.640 I see you and that’s the one moment for me that 0:03:12.640,0:03:15.261 she’s able to penetrate through the architecture. 0:03:18.080,0:03:20.840 Of course LE BAISER is about love, 0:03:20.840,0:03:23.562 but it’s a kind of restrained love. 0:03:31.440,0:03:34.302 I thought what we would do [br]is run through the edit. 0:03:36.920,0:03:40.920 The School of Architecture [br]in Chicago auctioned off 0:03:40.920,0:03:44.680 breaking the windows at the [br]Mies van der Rohe’s Crown Hall. 0:03:44.680,0:03:47.712 They were going to renovate, put new glass in. 0:03:49.480,0:03:56.658 As it turns out, the winner of the auction [br]is Mies’s grandson who is also an architect. 0:03:57.978,0:04:00.960 I was interested in this whole [br]notion of almost like patricide, 0:04:00.960,0:04:05.000 you know the son breaking the father’s temple. 0:04:17.840,0:04:20.880 The show in New York is a show that I think is 0:04:20.880,0:04:23.520 kind of difficult to negotiate 0:04:23.520,0:04:29.720 because there is no apparent sort of common theme. 0:04:32.760,0:04:35.880 I’ve been wanting to make [br]this umbrella for a long time. 0:04:35.880,0:04:40.960 When you actually look at an umbrella, [br]there’s so many complex curves in that fabric. 0:04:40.960,0:04:44.040 There are so many parabolic equations. 0:04:44.040,0:04:46.160 It’s very much like a flower. 0:04:46.160,0:04:50.000 That’s probably one of the best [br]designs out there in the world. 0:04:53.879,0:05:00.199 I enlisted the help of a fabricator that [br]does prototypes for stealth bombers. 0:05:00.960,0:05:02.680 It’s called BULLETPROOF UMBRELLA. 0:05:02.680,0:05:04.360 And it’s exactly that. 0:05:04.360,0:05:09.560 It’s made out of graphite and [br]Kevlar and space age materials. 0:05:09.560,0:05:14.120 So I think it actually responds in [br]many ways to the climate of our times. 0:05:14.120,0:05:16.444 Although it does it very quietly. 0:05:17.003,0:05:19.240 My mother would freak out. 0:05:19.240,0:05:20.940 She’s from Bogotá and… 0:05:20.940,0:05:27.364 and an open umbrella indoors is like [br]bad luck for the rest of your life. 0:05:29.400,0:05:33.240 The jack, very much like the [br]umbrella takes an every day object 0:05:33.240,0:05:38.320 and sort of scales it up [br]and deforms one axis of it. 0:05:38.320,0:05:40.140 What you end up having is this, 0:05:40.140,0:05:46.548 it’s almost like missile that points up [br]and almost touches the ceiling itself. 0:05:50.240,0:05:54.400 There are many connections between [br]these things and I think it’s just, 0:05:54.400,0:05:57.803 for me important not to make it readily apparent. 0:05:58.720,0:06:02.841 This sort of troublesome [br]condition is what I’m looking for. 0:06:03.982,0:06:07.816 On a very, sort of, formal sense, [br]the exhibition is all about color. 0:06:09.360,0:06:13.680 So the red film on the window [br]of the gallery is a work itself. 0:06:13.680,0:06:17.520 It’s called FROM RED TO ORANGE AND ORANGE TO RED. 0:06:17.520,0:06:21.547 Going from high alert to not so high alert. 0:06:28.200,0:06:35.640 I’ve been very interested in weather patterns that [br]occur both inside and outside of architecture. 0:06:35.640,0:06:37.560 In the case of RANDOM SKY in Chicago, 0:06:37.560,0:06:41.160 the weather station is outside [br]and takes the temperature, 0:06:41.160,0:06:44.080 barometric pressure, wind speed, wind direction. 0:06:44.080,0:06:48.680 All these streams of data connect [br]directly to a set of computers 0:06:48.680,0:06:54.902 that are running a program that generates [br]these blue and white scan lines. 0:06:56.200,0:07:01.000 When I decided to do this [br]project I met Mark Hereld, 0:07:01.000,0:07:04.385 an astrophysicist at Argon National Labs. 0:07:05.347,0:07:09.200 MARK HERELD: I was asked originally [br]to help the Hyde Park Arts Center 0:07:09.200,0:07:12.028 figure out how to build this façade. 0:07:13.080,0:07:17.080 We have a large effort in what’s [br]called scientific visualization, 0:07:17.080,0:07:21.400 we think about ways to sort of [br]tame these herds of computers 0:07:21.400,0:07:24.200 that are intended present environments 0:07:24.200,0:07:26.760 that are large enough that [br]people can step into them, 0:07:26.760,0:07:30.280 become directly involved with [br]what’s being put out on the screen. 0:07:30.280,0:07:36.116 The outside world is coupling [br]to this internal universe. 0:07:36.720,0:07:40.173 So there is a kind of little [br]bit of a living ecology there. 0:07:41.895,0:07:45.640 MANGLANO-OVALLE: We got to a certain [br]point where I needed to consider sound, 0:07:45.640,0:07:48.480 and in this case I worked with a young artist 0:07:48.480,0:07:49.760 by the name of Rick Gribenas 0:07:49.760,0:07:52.150 who is an artist as well as a composer. 0:07:54.745,0:07:57.680 RICK GRIBENAS: RANDOM SKY is really [br]just an examination of this building 0:07:57.680,0:08:00.520 and its architecture and the [br]space that is contained within it 0:08:00.520,0:08:02.134 and the space that kind of surrounds it. 0:08:03.320,0:08:04.880 It’s definitely an exploration. 0:08:04.880,0:08:06.720 It’s a, you know, the kind of great lengths that 0:08:06.720,0:08:09.360 we as humans go through to kind [br]of understand our environment 0:08:09.360,0:08:11.820 and kind of adjust our environment. 0:08:12.849,0:08:16.720 MANGLANO-OVALLE: RANDOM SKY [br]addresses that idea of the arbitrary 0:08:16.720,0:08:19.520 or the randomness or the uncontrollable, 0:08:19.520,0:08:23.668 the impossibility of our desire for stability. 0:08:28.360,0:08:31.080 CLOUD PROTOTYPE #1 was a thunderstorm 0:08:31.080,0:08:36.702 that was captured by the department of [br]atmospheric sciences at University of Illinois. 0:08:38.000,0:08:41.840 I watched the three-dimensional [br]data development as a storm 0:08:41.840,0:08:44.351 and at a certain moment I said, “Right there. 0:08:45.000,0:08:46.587 That’s the moment I want.” 0:08:47.840,0:08:49.720 It’s about stopping time. 0:08:49.720,0:08:52.855 It was just before the storm erupts. 0:08:55.920,0:08:58.267 Capturing ephemera is an impossibility. 0:08:59.640,0:09:01.800 And in the end you really [br]haven’t captured ephemera, 0:09:01.800,0:09:03.188 you’ve made a sculpture. 0:09:07.640,0:09:11.400 The space between things is just as important 0:09:11.400,0:09:15.403 or more important than the [br]space that things occupy. 0:09:16.320,0:09:18.240 Once you enter the exhibition, 0:09:18.240,0:09:22.080 this little infrared video [br]of my son at five months old 0:09:22.080,0:09:25.160 is neglected by you because [br]as soon as you walk in, 0:09:25.160,0:09:27.413 you see the iceberg in the cloud. 0:09:30.440,0:09:34.240 Another sculpture is so [br]miniscule you can step on it. 0:09:34.240,0:09:37.080 Red Fist and it’s in a central location, 0:09:37.080,0:09:39.647 it’s dismissed by the viewer. 0:09:40.520,0:09:44.880 Red Fist actually came about playing [br]with my son a year-old with Play dough, 0:09:44.880,0:09:48.234 it’s all about just grabbing [br]things and holding them. 0:09:48.760,0:09:50.200 So I would roll little balls 0:09:50.200,0:09:51.400 and he would grab them 0:09:51.400,0:09:52.320 and we squished them 0:09:52.320,0:09:54.080 and his hand would open up 0:09:54.080,0:09:56.480 and I would see this glorious, like, 0:09:56.480,0:10:00.000 shape that’s made by his fist. 0:10:01.760,0:10:04.800 SEARCH was a piece where the [br]architecture of the site, 0:10:04.800,0:10:08.680 this bullfight ring down in [br]Tijuana sort of called it forth. 0:10:08.680,0:10:13.698 I mean the bullfight ring already looked [br]like a speaker facing up into the sky. 0:10:16.920,0:10:19.840 The bullfight ring was [br]converted into a radio telescope 0:10:19.840,0:10:24.882 that would search for the real aliens only [br]fifty meters south of the U.S. border. 0:10:27.880,0:10:29.080 And for me it was a joke. 0:10:29.080,0:10:31.960 I wanted to do a piece about alienation 0:10:31.960,0:10:34.760 and about UFOs and about the alien 0:10:34.760,0:10:36.013 and about immigration. 0:10:40.040,0:10:44.680 When I first came to United States as a baby, 0:10:44.680,0:10:48.400 you know I came in as a resident alien. 0:10:48.400,0:10:52.200 And SEARCH was titled SEARCH (EN BÚSQUEDA), 0:10:52.200,0:10:55.150 the subtitle was Searching for the Real Aliens. 0:10:56.560,0:11:03.868 In Tijuana everybody from cab drivers [br]to artists to politicians got the joke. 0:11:04.920,0:11:08.520 I grew up with parents that were always 0:11:08.520,0:11:14.640 having to shift the family from [br]Madrid to Bogotá to the United States, 0:11:14.640,0:11:17.760 so the world was very small at a very young age 0:11:17.760,0:11:22.173 and I almost had to learn that there were borders. 0:11:24.120,0:11:26.080 The General Service Administration asked me 0:11:26.080,0:11:30.920 to propose a work for the Immigration [br]Naturalization Service Building. 0:11:30.920,0:11:33.080 Now it’s part of Homeland Security. 0:11:33.080,0:11:34.360 I actually like the idea, 0:11:34.360,0:11:37.040 because a whole host of [br]people that I know have been 0:11:37.040,0:11:40.532 through that building as what they call clients. 0:11:41.360,0:11:44.800 So LA TORMENTA, these two clouds, or THE STORM, 0:11:44.800,0:11:47.480 there’s a kind of critique that’s going on there 0:11:47.480,0:11:50.360 because it’s a storm system that arrives 0:11:50.360,0:11:56.640 and historically all waves of [br]immigration to the U.S. have been storms. 0:11:56.640,0:12:00.040 And have gone through [br]turbulence, upon their arrival, 0:12:00.040,0:12:02.080 and have caused turbulence 0:12:02.080,0:12:06.200 and all of those waves come [br]with a great deal of hope, 0:12:06.200,0:12:08.176 and a great deal of anxiety. 0:12:09.228,0:12:11.080 And that’s what a thunderstorm is. 0:12:11.080,0:12:17.304 It’s one of the most destructive [br]and most productive events. 0:12:18.960,0:12:20.800 It was about the duality of that, 0:12:20.800,0:12:22.931 and duality of hope and anxiety 0:12:23.960,0:12:30.096 and the fact that the piece in a [br]sense reflects its public in a way, 0:12:31.752,0:12:33.840 you know that they are the storm. 0:12:33.840,0:12:36.717 La Tormenta somos nosotros.