1 00:00:08,189 --> 00:00:11,370 The Snail Shamans are one of the biggest mysteries in all of Hallownest. 2 00:00:11,370 --> 00:00:17,460 I know I’ve said that before, about the Ancient Civilization, about Mask Maker, about 3 00:00:17,460 --> 00:00:23,529 the nature of Higher Beings, about Mister Mushroom, and about Zote’s political ideology. 4 00:00:23,529 --> 00:00:25,689 But I really do mean it this time. 5 00:00:25,689 --> 00:00:30,329 The Snail Shamans are a pretty easy group of characters to overlook in Hollow Knight. 6 00:00:30,329 --> 00:00:34,489 They’re definitely important, but they don’t seem too related to anything that actually 7 00:00:34,489 --> 00:00:38,289 happens in the main story the character unravels throughout the game. 8 00:00:38,289 --> 00:00:43,420 The Shamans also don’t really tell us much about who they are or where they came from. 9 00:00:43,420 --> 00:00:47,649 This is in part due to the fact that the vast majority of them are dead. 10 00:00:47,649 --> 00:00:52,199 And for the one Shaman who is alive, his dialogue only gives us small glimpses into the Snail 11 00:00:52,199 --> 00:00:54,210 Shaman culture and practices. 12 00:00:54,210 --> 00:00:58,530 One important thing to understand about the Snail Shamans is how they are related to Soul, 13 00:00:58,530 --> 00:01:01,729 one of the main spell systems found in Hollow Knight. 14 00:01:01,729 --> 00:01:05,620 Hollow Knight’s spell system is introduced very early in the game, and while it’s easy 15 00:01:05,620 --> 00:01:10,520 to understand mechanically, the lore surrounding it isn’t quite as straightforward. 16 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:15,250 Hitting enemies will give you “Soul” which you can “Focus” to either heal or use 17 00:01:15,250 --> 00:01:16,250 attacks. 18 00:01:16,250 --> 00:01:17,820 But what is Soul? 19 00:01:17,820 --> 00:01:19,720 Is it like mana? 20 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:23,210 Why is Soul always displayed as a white liquidy goop? 21 00:01:23,210 --> 00:01:25,910 Is it some kind of “spiritual milk”? 22 00:01:25,910 --> 00:01:29,860 It’s possible that Soul even have some kind of taste. 23 00:01:29,860 --> 00:01:33,790 The Hunter shares his thoughts in the Soul Twister hunter’s journal entry, saying: 24 00:01:33,790 --> 00:01:38,450 I have heard others talk about 'soul' but I do not understand what it actually is. 25 00:01:38,450 --> 00:01:43,620 I do know that freshly killed meat tastes best - is that because the 'soul' still clings 26 00:01:43,620 --> 00:01:44,680 to it? 27 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:49,470 Of course this seems more like idle speculation on the Hunter’s part, and unfortunately, 28 00:01:49,470 --> 00:01:54,350 he doesn’t actually tell us what Soul might taste like, so we can only make educated guesses 29 00:01:54,350 --> 00:01:55,390 on that front. 30 00:01:55,390 --> 00:02:00,180 Hollow Knight’s Soul system draws more from the concept of shamanism than the traditional 31 00:02:00,180 --> 00:02:05,230 fantasy magic systems you’d find in stuff like Lord of the Rings or Arthur. 32 00:02:05,230 --> 00:02:10,950 Basically, every living bug contains Soul, and this Soul is used to animate their bodies, 33 00:02:10,950 --> 00:02:14,159 so Soul seems to act like a lifeforce primarily. 34 00:02:14,159 --> 00:02:15,790 But Soul can be found elsewhere. 35 00:02:15,790 --> 00:02:20,840 In fact, Soul is so prevalent throughout the world that it permeates the air itself, and 36 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:24,870 Soul is so valuable that several groups in Hallownest have taken efforts to store or 37 00:02:24,870 --> 00:02:27,590 manipulate Soul in some way. 38 00:02:27,590 --> 00:02:31,420 The Ancient Civilization built totems used to store Soul. 39 00:02:31,420 --> 00:02:36,270 The Soul Sanctum scholars appeared to have studied these totems and ended up using glass 40 00:02:36,270 --> 00:02:39,450 jars to store the Soul of bugs they captured. 41 00:02:39,450 --> 00:02:41,480 And then there’s the Snail Shamans. 42 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:46,060 Their goals and habits are probably even more vague than the Ancient Civilizatio At least 43 00:02:46,060 --> 00:02:48,560 we know that they were worshipping the Void. 44 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:52,810 As for the Shamans, they just sort of hang out inside their own little mounds. 45 00:02:52,810 --> 00:02:55,120 And we don’t know exactly why. 46 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:59,090 We also have no idea where they came from or how they fit in with the other groups in 47 00:02:59,090 --> 00:03:00,660 Hallownest. 48 00:03:00,660 --> 00:03:04,990 But it’s clear that they have a strong connection to Soul, and that connection ties deeply into 49 00:03:04,990 --> 00:03:07,069 how they live their lives. 50 00:03:07,069 --> 00:03:12,540 The majority of the Shamans the Knight finds are located in these areas called mounds. 51 00:03:12,540 --> 00:03:16,620 These mounds are described by the Wanderer’s Journal as ancient temples constructed from 52 00:03:16,620 --> 00:03:20,220 the bones and shells of innumerable dead creatures. 53 00:03:20,220 --> 00:03:24,640 These mounds also appear to have some actual structure to them, with several beams of wood 54 00:03:24,640 --> 00:03:26,240 arranged in various ways. 55 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:29,860 And I use the term “structure” loosely. 56 00:03:29,860 --> 00:03:35,580 And just to clarify, this stuff isn’t technically wood, but instead “shellwood”. 57 00:03:35,580 --> 00:03:40,100 The Hunter mentions that Zote’s Life Ender is made from this shellwood substance, and 58 00:03:40,100 --> 00:03:42,910 there’s also a developer’s note about it as well. 59 00:03:42,910 --> 00:03:45,050 But what is shellwood actually? 60 00:03:45,050 --> 00:03:48,140 How would one carve a shell into wood? 61 00:03:48,140 --> 00:03:52,100 Well, my theory is that I have no fucking idea. 62 00:03:52,100 --> 00:03:56,020 Getting back to the mounds, I’m guessing they are supposed to be similar to burial 63 00:03:56,020 --> 00:03:57,020 mounds. 64 00:03:57,020 --> 00:04:00,580 There’s literally a bench made out of bones here, so I don’t think that’s much of 65 00:04:00,580 --> 00:04:01,910 a stretch. 66 00:04:01,910 --> 00:04:06,370 The Shaman even says that the spirits of his ancestors will watch over the Knight when 67 00:04:06,370 --> 00:04:08,599 he forces it to kill the Elder Balder. 68 00:04:08,599 --> 00:04:12,440 There’s no denying that Soul is connected to dead bugs. 69 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:16,261 Whenever you cast a spell, you can hear whispering coming from the Soul. 70 00:04:16,966 --> 00:04:20,411 *spooky whispering 71 00:04:20,777 --> 00:04:26,150 Which makes sense because the Knight is literally conjuring an angry spirit and firing it off 72 00:04:26,150 --> 00:04:30,710 to attack its foes, hence the name “Vengeful Spirit”. 73 00:04:30,710 --> 00:04:34,457 The Soul Sanctum bugs also fire attacks that make this whispering sound. 74 00:04:34,905 --> 00:04:37,390 *ᵖᵉᵉ ᶦˢ ˢᵗᵒʳᵉᵈ ᶦⁿ ᵗʰᵉ ᵇᵃˡˡˢ 75 00:04:37,634 --> 00:04:42,061 We can even hear the nightmarish cries of distressed Souls in the second phase of the 76 00:04:42,061 --> 00:04:42,561 Soul Master fight. 77 00:04:42,561 --> 00:04:45,251 *demonic voices WHAT THE HELL 78 00:04:45,612 --> 00:04:48,290 This is kinda weird. 79 00:04:48,290 --> 00:04:53,140 There are already ghosts in Hollow Knight, but these creatures are completely different. 80 00:04:53,140 --> 00:04:57,840 Ghosts are made up of Essence, a substance which can take the form of bygone memories. 81 00:04:57,840 --> 00:05:02,570 So Essence can hold part of a bug’s personality or identity in a sense. 82 00:05:02,570 --> 00:05:05,430 But Soul can kinda do the same thing. 83 00:05:05,430 --> 00:05:10,130 The whispering of Souls implies it holds some semblance of the bugs it occupies. 84 00:05:10,130 --> 00:05:12,480 And Soul can take the form of Spirits which… 85 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:15,030 I think are the same things as ghosts? 86 00:05:15,030 --> 00:05:19,530 So there are two different forces in the world of Hollow Knight that can create apparitions. 87 00:05:19,530 --> 00:05:23,850 This is a pretty big deviation from how actual ghosts work in the real world. 88 00:05:23,850 --> 00:05:27,750 But we all know how that stuff works, so I don’t want to bore you with the details. 89 00:05:27,750 --> 00:05:31,850 The Ancestral Mound also gives us a bit more information about the Snail Shamans via the 90 00:05:31,850 --> 00:05:33,780 Whispering Root found there. 91 00:05:33,780 --> 00:05:36,250 The dialogue produced by this root reads: 92 00:05:36,250 --> 00:05:37,710 ...Soul attuned... 93 00:05:37,710 --> 00:05:39,170 ...Spiral focus... 94 00:05:39,170 --> 00:05:40,630 ...Shunned Power... 95 00:05:40,630 --> 00:05:42,550 The first line is a little vague. 96 00:05:42,550 --> 00:05:47,080 It just seems to be confirming that the Snail Shaman is attuned to Soul in some way. 97 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:50,850 We don’t really know how difficult it is to be Soul attuned, but it seems like the 98 00:05:50,850 --> 00:05:54,680 Snail Shamans had a much better grasp on how to use Soul when compared against the bugs 99 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:58,330 of Hallownest, even including the ones in the Soul Sanctum. 100 00:05:58,330 --> 00:06:00,830 We only see the Snail Shaman use Soul once. 101 00:06:00,830 --> 00:06:05,389 He actually uses his cute little staff to conjure up the Vengeful Spirit out of thin 102 00:06:05,389 --> 00:06:06,389 air. 103 00:06:06,389 --> 00:06:09,949 He demonstrates a clear capacity to manipulate Soul when he does this. 104 00:06:09,949 --> 00:06:14,500 The Snail Shaman also has the Soul Catcher charm, which is used by Shamans to collect 105 00:06:14,500 --> 00:06:16,910 Soul from the world around them. 106 00:06:16,910 --> 00:06:21,800 Another Shaman relic found in the game, the Shaman Stone, informs us that the Snail Shamans 107 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:27,310 have spent generations growing their knowledge of Soul manipulation to create powerful spells. 108 00:06:27,310 --> 00:06:32,280 One final Shaman charm even gives us a peek into how Shamans once lived. 109 00:06:32,280 --> 00:06:37,810 The Soul Eater charm is a forgotten Shaman artifact that was used to draw Soul from still-living 110 00:06:37,810 --> 00:06:38,810 creatures. 111 00:06:38,810 --> 00:06:43,210 So it seems like Shamans of the past were more intent on taking Soul from others, instead 112 00:06:43,210 --> 00:06:47,230 of passively collecting Souls in temples riddled with remains. 113 00:06:47,230 --> 00:06:51,050 As for why this practice was forgotten, it may have to do with the arrival of the Pale 114 00:06:51,050 --> 00:06:52,729 King in Hallownest. 115 00:06:52,729 --> 00:06:57,290 We know that the King did not approve of this sort of repurposing of other bugs’ Soul. 116 00:06:57,290 --> 00:07:01,449 He explicitly objected to the action taken by the bugs of the Soul Sanctum. 117 00:07:01,449 --> 00:07:05,650 These bugs harvested the Souls of others, literally consuming Soul to the point where 118 00:07:05,650 --> 00:07:08,330 their bodies became bloated and deformed. 119 00:07:08,330 --> 00:07:11,370 My favorite example of this has to be the Soul Master. 120 00:07:11,370 --> 00:07:15,600 When staggered, we can literally see Soul escaping out of his body as he shrivels up 121 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:16,960 like a raisin. 122 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:21,650 And when he dies, the Desolate Dive ability seeps out of his mouth like a deflating balloon. 123 00:07:21,650 --> 00:07:25,410 The second line given by the Whispering Root might give us another little insight into 124 00:07:25,410 --> 00:07:28,460 how the Snail Shamans are able to manipulate Soul. 125 00:07:28,460 --> 00:07:33,400 The “spiral focus” line might be referring to the spiral shell the Shaman wears on his 126 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:34,400 head. 127 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:38,880 This spiral pattern also shows up on the inside of all three Snail Shaman charms, a small 128 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:41,789 detail that might highlight its importance. 129 00:07:41,789 --> 00:07:46,240 There seems to be some sort of connection between the use of Soul, focusing and the 130 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:47,240 head. 131 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:52,100 The Godseeker focuses using a crest located on the mask she wears on her head. 132 00:07:52,100 --> 00:07:55,960 Although in this case, she isn’t focusing Soul, but thoughts. 133 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:59,930 The Godseeker is sort of an outlier here, but she still shows a connection between the 134 00:07:59,930 --> 00:08:02,600 head of a creature, and the act of focusing. 135 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:05,750 There’s also the Kingsoul and Void Heart charms. 136 00:08:05,750 --> 00:08:10,509 Another Hollow Knight lore YouTuber, Ccmaci, pointed out to me that these charms have a 137 00:08:10,509 --> 00:08:16,090 similar looking crest or insignia on their foreheads, like what we see with the Godseeker’s 138 00:08:16,090 --> 00:08:17,090 mask. 139 00:08:17,090 --> 00:08:20,840 This might entirely be a coincidence, but I wouldn’t be surprised if it was intentional, 140 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:25,980 as it could imply the Knight having a greater mastery over Soul and Void respectively. 141 00:08:25,980 --> 00:08:30,070 The Soul Sanctum bugs claim that they are trying to obtain a pure “Focus” which 142 00:08:30,070 --> 00:08:33,690 somehow involves consuming large amounts of Soul. 143 00:08:33,690 --> 00:08:37,470 One of the end results of this is how their minds swell and ache. 144 00:08:37,470 --> 00:08:42,470 On top of that, all of the scholars wear these strange jewels on their heads, which are occasionally 145 00:08:42,470 --> 00:08:45,300 used to fire off Soul attacks. 146 00:08:45,300 --> 00:08:49,310 These appear to be the same objects that we see on the Spell Twister charm. 147 00:08:49,310 --> 00:08:53,080 Perhaps they act like the crest on Godseekers head, helping them focus. 148 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:56,670 Unfortunately, there isn’t much else to go on here. 149 00:08:56,670 --> 00:08:59,600 Another vague connection we can make is to the Mask Maker. 150 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:04,380 The Mask Maker tells us that one requires a face to “define, focus and exist”, which 151 00:09:04,380 --> 00:09:08,260 is pretty open to interpretation but it’s definitely important. 152 00:09:08,260 --> 00:09:12,770 So maybe this head-Soul connection is an extension of that in some way. 153 00:09:12,770 --> 00:09:17,360 That being said, Soul is such a vague force in this game that you can connect it to a 154 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:21,399 lot of things, and it’s hard to tell what connections were actually intended by Team 155 00:09:21,399 --> 00:09:22,550 Cherry. 156 00:09:22,550 --> 00:09:27,370 In my King’s Pass video, I talked a lot about focusing and Soul and how regular bugs 157 00:09:27,370 --> 00:09:30,790 might be able to focus their own Souls in some way. 158 00:09:30,790 --> 00:09:35,000 In my Silksong speculation videos, I talk about how Hornet might be able to make silk 159 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:37,130 that is composed of Soul. 160 00:09:37,130 --> 00:09:41,779 In my video discussing the post war politics of Australia after the Emu War, I mentioned 161 00:09:41,779 --> 00:09:44,089 that Soul might taste like vegemite. 162 00:09:44,089 --> 00:09:47,960 And with so many different ways Soul can be interpreted, it’s kinda hard to say there 163 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:52,240 is a definite connection between the concept of the face or the head and Soul. 164 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:55,870 But I do think there are some strands there. 165 00:09:55,870 --> 00:09:59,610 The last line of the Whispering Root is fairly easy to understand. 166 00:09:59,610 --> 00:10:04,140 The Shaman’s power to use Soul was probably shunned by the Pale King. 167 00:10:04,140 --> 00:10:08,630 Like I said earlier, he didn’t seem to approve of the Soul Sanctum’s experiments at all. 168 00:10:08,630 --> 00:10:12,390 Or it might just be that the other bugs of Hallownest find freaky snail people with bone 169 00:10:12,390 --> 00:10:15,190 furniture both scary and disgusting. 170 00:10:15,190 --> 00:10:19,940 We know other strange powers like Lifeblood were considered taboo in Hallownest too. 171 00:10:19,940 --> 00:10:24,500 So something as strange as Soul manipulation was probably treated the same way. 172 00:10:24,500 --> 00:10:28,550 This line could also explain another phenomenon we see with the Shamans. 173 00:10:28,550 --> 00:10:32,360 We know from the Snail Shaman’s dialogue that he is bound to the Ancestral Mound in 174 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:33,360 some way. 175 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:37,480 There’s also a developer’s note about this line of dialogue, which reads: 176 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:40,040 At some point hints that he can not leave the mound. 177 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:45,000 "Can not" could mean he stays out of duty, or literally can not leave 178 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:50,080 We find Snail Shamans in the Ancestral Mound, Overgrown Mound and Crystallized Mound. 179 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:54,970 If we find any of them outside of a mound, they are either buried, or being brutally 180 00:10:54,970 --> 00:10:55,970 tortured. 181 00:10:55,970 --> 00:11:00,480 There’s one in the Soul Sanctum, who appears to have been subjected to experiments. 182 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:03,990 And there’s one sealed in a sarcophagus in the Resting Grounds. 183 00:11:03,990 --> 00:11:07,720 Perhaps Snail Shamans were forced to remain near their mounds due to how the rest of Hallownest 184 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:09,530 perceived their power. 185 00:11:09,530 --> 00:11:13,870 But that doesn’t seem too likely considering everyone is pretty much dead at this point. 186 00:11:13,870 --> 00:11:18,250 So it’s probably either that the Shaman has a sense of duty to the mound, or his strength 187 00:11:18,250 --> 00:11:20,370 is somehow tied to it. 188 00:11:20,370 --> 00:11:24,320 Maybe the Shaman’s spells don’t work as well outside the mound, so he is vastly underpowered 189 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:26,000 to leave his home. 190 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:31,020 After all, he doesn’t even seem capable of clearing out his own den of dangerous creatures. 191 00:11:31,020 --> 00:11:33,149 But it’s anyone’s guess, honestly. 192 00:11:33,149 --> 00:11:36,810 Team Cherry very much left this part of the lore ambiguous. 193 00:11:36,810 --> 00:11:40,850 Of course, there’s one question looming over the nature of the Snail Shamans. 194 00:11:40,850 --> 00:11:45,090 A question that gets thrown around a lot whenever discussion about them arises. 195 00:11:45,090 --> 00:11:47,860 Are the Snail Shamans Void? 196 00:11:47,860 --> 00:11:52,360 In my video on the Ancient Civilization, I confidently said there was no question that 197 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:54,670 these things were Void creatures. 198 00:11:54,670 --> 00:11:55,670 But… 199 00:11:55,670 --> 00:11:58,530 I think I jumped the gun a little bit. 200 00:11:58,530 --> 00:12:02,950 So now it’s time to lace up those clown shoes, put on that clown makeup, and pull 201 00:12:02,950 --> 00:12:07,550 out your clown keyboards, because we are about to have a serious discussion about whether 202 00:12:07,550 --> 00:12:10,269 or not Snail Shamans are Void. 203 00:12:10,269 --> 00:12:15,100 So what was 2019 mossbag’s reasoning behind calling the Shamans Void? 204 00:12:15,100 --> 00:12:19,850 Well, it mainly comes down to a few simple observations. 205 00:12:19,850 --> 00:12:24,390 When the Knight examines the Snail Shaman in the Soul Sanctum, it explodes into black 206 00:12:24,390 --> 00:12:26,839 particles that the Knight absorbs. 207 00:12:26,839 --> 00:12:31,200 The Snail Shaman in the Crystalized Mound also explodes in the same way. 208 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:35,490 The Knight collects the Shade Soul and Descending Dark from these Shamans respectively. 209 00:12:35,490 --> 00:12:40,080 What’s interesting here is that while the prompts for these moves still mention spirits, 210 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:43,130 their descriptions in the menu describe them as shadows. 211 00:12:43,130 --> 00:12:48,089 For the Abyss Shriek move, we can even see the attack uses a combination of Soul and 212 00:12:48,089 --> 00:12:49,089 shadow. 213 00:12:49,089 --> 00:12:53,640 And there’s even unused art of a Vengeful Spirit-like move with this same motif. 214 00:12:53,640 --> 00:13:00,130 Regardless, these upgrades all mix the original Soul-based attacks to also use Void. 215 00:13:00,130 --> 00:13:04,250 One noteworthy distinction between the Soul upgrades and the Void upgrades is that the 216 00:13:04,250 --> 00:13:07,279 Soul upgrades appear as these little spirit sprites. 217 00:13:07,279 --> 00:13:09,589 The Void spells don’t have this at all. 218 00:13:09,589 --> 00:13:13,820 In all three instances, it’s black balls flying into the Knight. 219 00:13:13,820 --> 00:13:18,320 And in the third instance that takes place in the Abyss, we can be fairly sure that the 220 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:20,770 Knight is consuming Void. 221 00:13:20,770 --> 00:13:22,769 This invites a very simple conclusion. 222 00:13:22,769 --> 00:13:28,150 These Shamans explode into Void which the Knight then sucks up to inherit their spells. 223 00:13:28,150 --> 00:13:29,320 And that makes sense. 224 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:31,010 Bada bing bada boom, right? 225 00:13:31,010 --> 00:13:34,270 Well, let’s talk about the elephant in the room. 226 00:13:34,270 --> 00:13:39,060 Characters exploding into stuff happens on a number of occasions in Hollow Knight, and 227 00:13:39,060 --> 00:13:41,540 it doesn’t always make sense. 228 00:13:41,540 --> 00:13:47,519 For example, when the Seer disappears after collecting 2400 Essence, she appears to transform 229 00:13:47,519 --> 00:13:48,519 into a Lumafly. 230 00:13:48,519 --> 00:13:53,600 It’s a really small detail that might have lore implications, but there is absolutely 231 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:58,649 nothing else in the game to follow up on this, and it opens such a huge can of worms that 232 00:13:58,649 --> 00:14:00,529 I’m afraid to even talk about it. 233 00:14:00,529 --> 00:14:05,639 There’s also the Grey Mourner and the Brooding Mawlek who explode into Mask Shards. 234 00:14:05,639 --> 00:14:08,310 This makes absolutely no sense. 235 00:14:08,310 --> 00:14:13,500 If people can just die and turn into masks, then why the hell do we need Mask Maker? 236 00:14:13,500 --> 00:14:16,810 Are masks somehow connected to the Souls of bugs? 237 00:14:16,810 --> 00:14:20,130 Was the Brooding Mawlek hiding this Mask Shard up its asshole? 238 00:14:20,130 --> 00:14:21,260 That sounds painful! 239 00:14:21,260 --> 00:14:27,279 A more agreeable and straightforward explanation is that this is just a gameplay quirk. 240 00:14:27,279 --> 00:14:30,930 Another example we can compare this to is Grey Prince Zote. 241 00:14:30,930 --> 00:14:35,200 Several of his animations use the black ball effect similar to what we see with the Snail 242 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:36,550 Shamans and the Abyss. 243 00:14:36,550 --> 00:14:40,480 Since this entire fight takes place inside a Dream concocted by Bretta’s obsessive 244 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:44,300 mind, this probably isn’t supposed to imply that Zote is Void. 245 00:14:44,300 --> 00:14:49,120 In fact, it seems highly unlikely that Bretta would even know what Void is. 246 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:53,839 So black stuff that appears in her dream is probably just an ingame effect used to portray 247 00:14:53,839 --> 00:14:56,830 the conjuring of a character made up mostly of the color black. 248 00:14:56,830 --> 00:14:59,790 We’re in a similar boat with these Shamans. 249 00:14:59,790 --> 00:15:04,070 These effects might purely be an aesthetic choice by Team Cherry, and not proof that 250 00:15:04,070 --> 00:15:06,360 the Shamans are actually Void. 251 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:10,320 If we talk to the Snail Shaman after getting the Shade Soul, he implies that it was the 252 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:14,800 Knight’s essence that melded with the spell, using a powerful source to do so. 253 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:18,170 The wording here is annoying in how obscure it is. 254 00:15:18,170 --> 00:15:23,000 So stuff goes into the Knight, giving it enough power to transform the spell inside it with 255 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:27,980 its own essence, and by essence, I don’t mean actual Essence, but Void. 256 00:15:27,980 --> 00:15:32,310 There’s enough vagueness there to perhaps argue that the Knight is absorbing the power 257 00:15:32,310 --> 00:15:38,360 of the Shamans in a general sense, and not somehow absorbing their Void bodies, but it 258 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:41,130 would honestly make more sense to me if they were just Void. 259 00:15:41,130 --> 00:15:45,130 I mean that seems to be the case when we get the Abyss Shriek. 260 00:15:45,130 --> 00:15:49,850 Another possible hint at Shamans being Void is how the Shaman in the Overgrown Mound appears 261 00:15:49,850 --> 00:15:54,590 to be melting, kind of like what we see with Void in other locations, particularly the 262 00:15:54,590 --> 00:15:55,779 Collector. 263 00:15:55,779 --> 00:16:00,380 But it could be just dark colored leaves, to help sell the “overgrown” aspect of 264 00:16:00,380 --> 00:16:01,600 the mound. 265 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:06,810 As a side note, if the Shamans are Void, it’s kinda weird they put one in a sarcophagus. 266 00:16:06,810 --> 00:16:11,250 It’s certainly possible, but I think it would be the only instance of a Void creature 267 00:16:11,250 --> 00:16:13,990 having a “proper” burial. 268 00:16:13,990 --> 00:16:18,750 Another small detail to consider is how the Snail Shaman calls the Knight a shadow and 269 00:16:18,750 --> 00:16:21,350 mentions its “empty face”. 270 00:16:21,350 --> 00:16:25,310 This could imply that the Snail Shamans are at least aware of what Void is. 271 00:16:25,310 --> 00:16:29,959 The only characters who call the Knight a shadow directly are Hornet and the Dreamers, 272 00:16:29,959 --> 00:16:34,850 and arguably Divine, all characters who are more likely to know what Void is. 273 00:16:34,850 --> 00:16:39,760 It’s obvious that the Snail Shaman is pretty aware of things, considering he can tell when 274 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:41,010 he is Dream Nailed. 275 00:16:41,010 --> 00:16:46,110 Also, the fact that he says our essence melded with the Vengeful Spirit after getting the 276 00:16:46,110 --> 00:16:49,680 Shade Soul kinda implies that he knows the Knight is unique. 277 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:55,200 How exactly would a non-Void creature's essence meld with a Void spell? 278 00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:58,019 So that’s all of the evidence for why the Shamans are Void. 279 00:16:58,019 --> 00:16:59,900 Our main argument is balls. 280 00:16:59,900 --> 00:17:05,010 And yes, balls are pretty convincing in most instances of Hollow Knight lore discussion. 281 00:17:05,010 --> 00:17:09,900 But once we get into non-ball related topics, there are a lot of other issues that pop up 282 00:17:09,900 --> 00:17:11,439 with this theory. 283 00:17:11,439 --> 00:17:15,619 First of all, if the Shamans are Void, where did they come from? 284 00:17:15,619 --> 00:17:18,869 For a lot of Void beings, we have explanations. 285 00:17:18,869 --> 00:17:22,600 The Kingsmoulds and Wingmounds were created to serve the Pale King. 286 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:27,149 The Collector probably also came from that mold, and probably is sort of working with 287 00:17:27,149 --> 00:17:31,080 the Pale King, it’s a whole thing, we’re not getting into it right now. 288 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:35,190 The Vessels were also created by the Pale King, when he placed eggs containing his children 289 00:17:35,190 --> 00:17:36,529 in the Abyss. 290 00:17:36,529 --> 00:17:41,519 The ferocious Void Tendrils and Shade Lord appear to be more intricately tied to the 291 00:17:41,519 --> 00:17:46,580 Abyss and Void itself, although the specifics are muddy on that front. 292 00:17:46,580 --> 00:17:51,179 The Shamans, on the other hand, don’t have any leads for their possible Void origins. 293 00:17:51,179 --> 00:17:55,210 In fact, we are fairly certain they didn’t come from the Abyss at all. 294 00:17:55,210 --> 00:17:58,600 After obtaining the Abyss Shriek, the Snail Shaman tells the Knight that the spell must 295 00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:02,350 have come from a place the Snail Shamans never thought to look. 296 00:18:02,350 --> 00:18:06,650 This implies that the Shamans aren’t connected to the Abyss at all, unless the Snail Shaman 297 00:18:06,650 --> 00:18:09,590 somehow forgot where his people came from. 298 00:18:09,590 --> 00:18:13,460 That seems unlikely, but we do know that the Snail Shamans have forgotten at least one 299 00:18:13,460 --> 00:18:18,230 part of their history, considering the Soul Eater charm is described as a forgotten Shaman 300 00:18:18,230 --> 00:18:19,429 relic. 301 00:18:19,429 --> 00:18:23,840 As for their true origins, we do see a similar character to the Snail Shamans in the upcoming 302 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:25,450 Silksong sequel. 303 00:18:25,450 --> 00:18:30,559 The Churchkeeper appears to be a similar character archetype as the Shamans, except instead of 304 00:18:30,559 --> 00:18:34,340 teaching Hornet how to shoot ghosts out of her face, she’s teaching Hornet how to play 305 00:18:34,340 --> 00:18:36,249 songs on her needle. 306 00:18:36,249 --> 00:18:39,280 But should this character even be considered a Snail Shaman? 307 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:41,279 Are Snail Shamans even a species? 308 00:18:41,279 --> 00:18:44,919 Or do you just need to wear one of those snail hats to become one? 309 00:18:44,919 --> 00:18:49,690 Regardless, she is visually similar to them, which might imply Snail Shaman-like creatures 310 00:18:49,690 --> 00:18:51,200 aren’t unique to Hallownest. 311 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:56,230 You could argue that this strengthens the argument against Shamans being Void, but I 312 00:18:56,230 --> 00:19:00,690 will say we know so little about what Void is and where it comes from. 313 00:19:00,690 --> 00:19:04,250 Who's to say there aren’t other Abyss-like areas beyond Hallownest where Void can be 314 00:19:04,250 --> 00:19:05,549 found? 315 00:19:05,549 --> 00:19:09,999 So maybe the Shamans found in Hallownest and Pharloom are Void beings who originated from 316 00:19:09,999 --> 00:19:11,429 a different place. 317 00:19:11,429 --> 00:19:14,110 But, we’re speculating an awful lot here. 318 00:19:14,110 --> 00:19:19,309 And this isn’t the only issue that arises with the “Shamans are Void” statement. 319 00:19:19,309 --> 00:19:23,409 Another monkey wrench in this idea is how the Snail Shaman refers to the other Shamans 320 00:19:23,409 --> 00:19:25,100 as his relatives. 321 00:19:25,100 --> 00:19:28,850 Once you get the Desolate Dive, he mentions his third uncle has the same ability. 322 00:19:28,850 --> 00:19:33,639 He also mentions his fourth aunt, who resides in the Crystallized Mound. 323 00:19:33,639 --> 00:19:37,470 And he mentions his larger cousin located in the Overgrown Mound. 324 00:19:37,470 --> 00:19:40,649 How exactly would Void beings have relatives? 325 00:19:40,649 --> 00:19:45,490 Can Void beings get married, do the nasty and give birth to children? 326 00:19:45,490 --> 00:19:50,239 Technically, shades are siblings, which shows that creatures connected to the Void can have 327 00:19:50,239 --> 00:19:52,330 relations to one another. 328 00:19:52,330 --> 00:19:57,119 But cousins and uncles imply a multigenerational community of Void beings. 329 00:19:57,119 --> 00:20:00,750 And... that just sounds kinda silly. 330 00:20:00,750 --> 00:20:03,039 But this does beg the question. 331 00:20:03,039 --> 00:20:05,710 What exactly is a “fourth aunt”? 332 00:20:05,710 --> 00:20:09,890 In order to answer this question, I decided to consult some of the brightest minds on 333 00:20:09,890 --> 00:20:11,200 the entire internet. 334 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:15,659 So naturally, I took to twitter dot com and asked my followers for their thoughts on the 335 00:20:15,659 --> 00:20:16,659 matter. 336 00:20:16,659 --> 00:20:21,129 Thanks to a very knowledgeable and patient person known as Sage, I was able to uncover 337 00:20:21,129 --> 00:20:22,129 the truth. 338 00:20:22,129 --> 00:20:25,470 “Fourth aunt” isn’t really a thing. 339 00:20:25,470 --> 00:20:29,149 Perhaps a fourth aunt is just your mother or father’s fourth sister. 340 00:20:29,149 --> 00:20:30,669 That would be the easiest explanation. 341 00:20:30,669 --> 00:20:35,849 Or a fourth aunt could be a fourth cousin, once removed, which would be someone who shares 342 00:20:35,849 --> 00:20:40,039 great great great grandparents with your parents. 343 00:20:40,039 --> 00:20:45,159 This would imply that, given none of the Snail Shamans participated in inbreeding, a huge 344 00:20:45,159 --> 00:20:51,039 family tree of at least 133 other Snail Shamans must have existed to facilitate the relation 345 00:20:51,039 --> 00:20:55,610 between these two characters, let alone the third uncle and larger cousin and whoever 346 00:20:55,610 --> 00:20:58,909 the hell these people who are and their relation to the Snail Shaman. 347 00:20:58,909 --> 00:21:02,940 And that’s not even considering the sexual reproductive habits of actual snails. 348 00:21:02,940 --> 00:21:08,380 And if the Shamans are anything like that, well, things become much more complicated. 349 00:21:08,380 --> 00:21:12,240 Youcould argue that these relations are more sentimental than genealogical. 350 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:14,799 Sorta like dog moms. 351 00:21:14,799 --> 00:21:18,109 While that excuse might work for the relatives, we still have to counter with the fact that 352 00:21:18,109 --> 00:21:21,159 these Shamans are deeply tied to their ancestors. 353 00:21:21,159 --> 00:21:25,059 The spirits of the Snail Shaman’s ancestors are apparently watching over the Ancestral 354 00:21:25,059 --> 00:21:26,080 Mound. 355 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:30,649 This not only reinforces the idea of the Shamans being biological creatures that aren’t just 356 00:21:30,649 --> 00:21:34,190 created, but it also raises another complicated question. 357 00:21:34,190 --> 00:21:36,679 Can Void beings even have spirits? 358 00:21:36,679 --> 00:21:40,990 Void creatures aren’t technically alive, hence the White Lady saying that the Knight 359 00:21:40,990 --> 00:21:42,820 died in the Abyss. 360 00:21:42,820 --> 00:21:48,191 Obviously Void creatures like the Collector and James Corden have no Soul, but creatures 361 00:21:48,191 --> 00:21:52,460 like the Hollow Knight do give off Soul, so maybe they would count? 362 00:21:52,460 --> 00:21:57,210 But being a living creature animated by Soul is very different from being a Void creature 363 00:21:57,210 --> 00:22:00,190 that can contain or hold Soul within its shell. 364 00:22:00,190 --> 00:22:04,599 I don’t think you could say the Hollow Knight really has its own “spirit” in the same 365 00:22:04,599 --> 00:22:07,570 sense that a regular creature would have a spirit. 366 00:22:07,570 --> 00:22:11,950 Or maybe I’m reading way too far into the concept of spirits and Team Cherry just wanted 367 00:22:11,950 --> 00:22:16,090 an excuse to put cute little faces on the Hollow Knight’s attacks. 368 00:22:16,090 --> 00:22:20,710 Either way you slice it, there are some weird questions that pop up around the Snail Shamans. 369 00:22:20,710 --> 00:22:25,119 If they truly are Void creatures, why are they unaware of the Abyss? 370 00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:26,609 How were they created? 371 00:22:26,609 --> 00:22:29,070 Why do they refer to each other as relatives? 372 00:22:29,070 --> 00:22:33,609 If they aren’t Void, why do they explode into black balls that the Knight sucks up 373 00:22:33,609 --> 00:22:35,840 and then gains Void spells from them? 374 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:40,019 Why do they still seem to be aware of Void and its shadow-like nature? 375 00:22:40,019 --> 00:22:43,440 In the end, the Snail Shamans don’t have a clear answer. 376 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:47,639 Looking strictly at what’s in the game, it seems more likely that they aren’t Void, 377 00:22:47,639 --> 00:22:52,570 since the Void ball phenomenon is easier to handwave than the dialogue we actually get 378 00:22:52,570 --> 00:22:54,789 from the Snail Shaman. 379 00:22:54,789 --> 00:22:59,580 And even if we ignore the Void stuff, there’s still the big question of what the older generations 380 00:22:59,580 --> 00:23:01,509 of Snail Shamans were doing. 381 00:23:01,509 --> 00:23:05,669 The fact that they had a charm like the Soul Eater implies that they were a much more dangerous 382 00:23:05,669 --> 00:23:06,669 force in the past. 383 00:23:06,669 --> 00:23:10,460 What were these ancient snail people doing exactly? 384 00:23:10,460 --> 00:23:12,739 How powerful were these overcooked hotdogs? 385 00:23:12,739 --> 00:23:17,880 I’m gonna hold out hope that Silksong somehow illuminates the Snail Shamans for us. 386 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:22,950 Just gonna go and add it to the Silksong Bingo card right next to more Macebug lore and Funky 387 00:23:22,950 --> 00:23:23,950 Mode. 388 00:23:23,950 --> 00:23:29,791 I mean William did say we might get some Snail Shaman lore in a Reddit AMA post from 3 years ago 389 00:23:29,791 --> 00:23:32,302 So it’s basically confirmed.