(thoughtful music)
(drawers scraping)
- [Cindy] Did you know
they have press-on nails for pedicures? (laughs)
- [Speaker] Wait a minute.
- I haven't tried them yet,
but I'm really dying to try them,
isn't that crazy? (chuckles)
I'm thinking of just wearing them myself
just for a party, just as a joke, you know?
I mean, they just, I mean, except these aren't as obvious.
These are maybe more obvious
because they have little polka dots on them
and they just look like,
"Who would wear little polka dots on your toes?"
My work is not about
kind of fantasizing about characters or situations.
Some people, I think, have thought that
the characters I do were,
yeah, like as if I've always fantasized
about being a femme fatal or whatever, you know,
if in my film stills.
Yeah, I don't think of it as that literal to me.
When I'm doing the characters,
I really don't feel like it's some sort of something
that grows out of my fantasy, my own dreams.
In college when I would do it,
I would, you know, become a character
and then sort of think,
"Well, gee, here I am as Lucille Ball,
and what do I do now?"
So then it became sort of a thing
and a little more like performance
and I started to do it going to parties sometimes
I remember once getting all in character
and wanting to go to some opening
and feeling like something was missing,
and then I put a pillow under the dress
and went as a pregnant woman.
When I moved to New York, I did it a few times,
but it suddenly wasn't the same I think
because in the city I felt like I needed my own sort of,
you know, street armor,
or whatever to just to deal with the street
and people out on the street and the crazy people
and the real crazy people who look
like some of the characters I was looking like.
And I didn't wanna be confused, I guess, with them.
That's the advantage of being in them myself
is I can just play around.
When I've experimented with other people in them as models,
paid models or friends or family,
I feel like I just, I don't know what to tell them to do
because I don't really know
what it is I'm looking for until I see it.
So I tend to sort of rush them through the whole process
and I redo it myself and it's like grueling.
So, I mean, even though I love to do it,
it's much more work
because, you know, I'm like frustrated at trying
to capture on film something that I can't even articulate
because I don't really know what it is I am looking for
until I see it.