WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:03.808 (gentle music) 00:00:05.816 --> 00:00:11.810 (drawers scraping) 00:00:13.524 --> 00:00:17.325 - (Cindy) Did you know they have press-on nails for pedicures? 00:00:17.339 --> 00:00:18.579 (chuckles) 00:00:18.579 --> 00:00:19.471 - (Speaker) Wait a minute- 00:00:19.471 --> 00:00:20.772 - (Cindy) I haven't tried them yet, 00:00:20.772 --> 00:00:22.994 but I'm really dying to try them, 00:00:22.994 --> 00:00:24.670 isn't that crazy? (chuckles) 00:00:26.361 --> 00:00:28.361 I'm thinking of just wearing them myself 00:00:28.361 --> 00:00:30.505 just for a party, just as a joke, you know? 00:00:30.505 --> 00:00:34.006 I mean, they just, I mean, except these aren't as obvious. 00:00:34.006 --> 00:00:35.071 These are maybe more obvious 00:00:35.071 --> 00:00:36.492 because they have little polka dots on them 00:00:36.492 --> 00:00:37.641 and they just look like, 00:00:37.641 --> 00:00:40.935 'Who would wear little polka dots on your toes?' 00:00:46.905 --> 00:00:50.642 My work is not about fantasising 00:00:50.642 --> 00:00:52.554 about characters or situations. 00:00:54.182 --> 00:00:56.044 Some people, I think, have thought that 00:00:56.955 --> 00:00:59.098 the characters I do were, 00:01:00.116 --> 00:01:02.066 yeah, as if I've always fantasised 00:01:02.114 --> 00:01:06.004 about being a femme fatale or whatever, you know, 00:01:06.401 --> 00:01:08.073 in my film stills. 00:01:09.443 --> 00:01:14.319 Yeah, I don't think of it as that literal to me. 00:01:16.509 --> 00:01:18.000 When I'm doing the characters, 00:01:18.000 --> 00:01:21.148 I really don't feel like it's some sort of something 00:01:21.148 --> 00:01:25.747 that grows out of my fantasy, my own dreams. 00:01:29.413 --> 00:01:31.039 In college when I would do it, 00:01:31.169 --> 00:01:33.309 I would become a character 00:01:33.157 --> 00:01:34.878 and then sort of think, 00:01:34.749 --> 00:01:39.070 'Well, gee, here I am as Lucille Ball, and what do I now?' 00:01:40.020 --> 00:01:41.656 So then it became sort of a thing 00:01:41.656 --> 00:01:43.984 and a little more like performance. 00:01:43.984 --> 00:01:47.550 And I started to do it going to parties sometimes. 00:01:48.853 --> 00:01:51.097 I remember once getting all in character 00:01:51.097 --> 00:01:52.557 and wanting to go to some opening 00:01:52.557 --> 00:01:55.252 and feeling like something was missing, 00:01:55.252 --> 00:01:57.731 and then I put a pillow under the dress 00:01:57.731 --> 00:01:59.175 and went as a pregnant woman. 00:02:00.518 --> 00:02:02.862 When I moved to New York, I did it a few times, 00:02:03.103 --> 00:02:05.363 but it suddenly wasn't the same 00:02:05.363 --> 00:02:06.972 I think because in the city 00:02:07.442 --> 00:02:11.383 I felt like I needed my own 00:02:11.383 --> 00:02:16.410 sort of, street armour, or whatever 00:02:17.512 --> 00:02:19.950 just to deal with the street, and people out on the street 00:02:19.950 --> 00:02:21.751 and the crazy people, and the real crazy people 00:02:21.751 --> 00:02:23.837 who looked like some of the characters 00:02:23.837 --> 00:02:24.897 I was looking like. 00:02:24.897 --> 00:02:27.493 And I didn't want to be confused, I guess, with them. 00:02:29.718 --> 00:02:32.568 That's the advantage of being in them myself 00:02:32.568 --> 00:02:34.640 is I can just play around. 00:02:36.550 --> 00:02:39.319 When I've experimented with other people in them, 00:02:39.319 --> 00:02:42.102 as models, paid models, or friends or family, 00:02:42.699 --> 00:02:46.919 I feel like I just, I don't know what to tell them to do 00:02:46.871 --> 00:02:48.062 because I don't really know 00:02:48.062 --> 00:02:50.459 what it is I'm looking for until I see it. 00:02:50.569 --> 00:02:54.008 So I tend to sort of rush them through the whole process. 00:02:55.327 --> 00:02:57.777 Then I redo it with myself, and it's like grueling. 00:02:57.777 --> 00:03:00.020 So, I mean, even though I love to do it, 00:03:00.020 --> 00:03:01.523 it's much more work 00:03:01.523 --> 00:03:04.035 because I'm like frustrated 00:03:04.035 --> 00:03:06.856 at trying to capture on film 00:03:06.856 --> 00:03:08.679 something that I can't even articulate. 00:03:08.679 --> 00:03:12.709 Because I don't really know what it is I am looking for. 00:03:12.709 --> 00:03:13.614 until I see it.