(gentle music)
(drawers scraping)
- (Cindy) Did you know they have press-on nails for pedicures?
(chuckles)
- (Speaker) Wait a minute-
- (Cindy) I haven't tried them yet,
but I'm really dying to try them,
isn't that crazy? (chuckles)
I'm thinking of just wearing them myself
just for a party, just as a joke, you know?
I mean, they just, I mean, except these aren't as obvious.
These are maybe more obvious
because they have little polka dots on them
and they just look like,
'Who would wear little polka dots on your toes?'
My work is not about fantasising
about characters or situations.
Some people, I think, have thought that
the characters I do were,
yeah, as if I've always fantasised
about being a femme fatale or whatever, you know,
in my film stills.
Yeah, I don't think of it as that literal to me.
When I'm doing the characters,
I really don't feel like it's some sort of something
that grows out of my fantasy, my own dreams.
In college when I would do it,
I would become a character
and then sort of think,
'Well, gee, here I am as Lucille Ball, and what do I now?'
So then it became sort of a thing
and a little more like performance.
And I started to do it going to parties sometimes.
I remember once getting all in character
and wanting to go to some opening
and feeling like something was missing,
and then I put a pillow under the dress
and went as a pregnant woman.
When I moved to New York, I did it a few times,
but it suddenly wasn't the same
I think because in the city
I felt like I needed my own
sort of, street armour, or whatever
just to deal with the street, and people out on the street
and the crazy people, and the real crazy people
who looked like some of the characters
I was looking like.
And I didn't want to be confused, I guess, with them.
That's the advantage of being in them myself
is I can just play around.
When I've experimented with other people in them,
as models, paid models, or friends or family,
I feel like I just, I don't know what to tell them to do
because I don't really know
what it is I'm looking for until I see it.
So I tend to sort of rush them through the whole process.
Then I redo it with myself, and it's like grueling.
So, I mean, even though I love to do it,
it's much more work
because I'm like frustrated
at trying to capture on film
something that I can't even articulate.
Because I don't really know what it is I am looking for.
until I see it.