0:00:00.000,0:00:03.808 (gentle music) 0:00:05.816,0:00:11.810 (drawers scraping) 0:00:13.524,0:00:17.325 - (Cindy) Did you know they have[br]press-on nails for pedicures? 0:00:17.339,0:00:18.579 (chuckles) 0:00:18.579,0:00:19.471 - (Speaker) Wait a minute- 0:00:19.471,0:00:20.772 - (Cindy) I haven't tried them yet, 0:00:20.772,0:00:22.994 but I'm really dying to try them, 0:00:22.994,0:00:24.670 isn't that crazy? (chuckles) 0:00:26.361,0:00:28.361 I'm thinking of just wearing them myself 0:00:28.361,0:00:30.505 just for a party,[br]just as a joke, you know? 0:00:30.505,0:00:34.006 I mean, they just, I mean,[br]except these aren't as obvious. 0:00:34.006,0:00:35.071 These are maybe more obvious 0:00:35.071,0:00:36.492 because they have[br]little polka dots on them 0:00:36.492,0:00:37.641 and they just look like, 0:00:37.641,0:00:40.935 'Who would wear little[br]polka dots on your toes?' 0:00:46.905,0:00:50.642 My work is not about fantasising 0:00:50.642,0:00:52.554 about characters or situations. 0:00:54.182,0:00:56.044 Some people, I think,[br]have thought that 0:00:56.955,0:00:59.098 the characters I do were, 0:01:00.116,0:01:02.066 yeah, as if I've always fantasised 0:01:02.114,0:01:06.004 about being a femme fatale[br]or whatever, you know, 0:01:06.401,0:01:08.073 in my film stills. 0:01:09.443,0:01:14.319 Yeah, I don't think of[br]it as that literal to me. 0:01:16.509,0:01:18.000 When I'm doing the characters, 0:01:18.000,0:01:21.148 I really don't feel like [br]it's some sort of something[br] 0:01:21.148,0:01:25.747 that grows out of my fantasy,[br]my own dreams. 0:01:29.413,0:01:31.039 In college when I would do it, 0:01:31.169,0:01:33.309 I would become a character 0:01:33.157,0:01:34.878 and then sort of think, 0:01:34.749,0:01:39.070 'Well, gee, here I am as Lucille Ball, [br]and what do I now?' 0:01:40.020,0:01:41.656 So then it became sort of a thing 0:01:41.656,0:01:43.984 and a little more like performance. 0:01:43.984,0:01:47.550 And I started to do it [br]going to parties sometimes. 0:01:48.853,0:01:51.097 I remember once getting all in character 0:01:51.097,0:01:52.557 and wanting to go to some opening 0:01:52.557,0:01:55.252 and feeling like something was missing, 0:01:55.252,0:01:57.731 and then I put a pillow under the dress 0:01:57.731,0:01:59.175 and went as a pregnant woman. 0:02:00.518,0:02:02.862 When I moved to New York,[br]I did it a few times, 0:02:03.103,0:02:05.363 but it suddenly wasn't the same 0:02:05.363,0:02:06.972 I think because in the city 0:02:07.442,0:02:11.383 I felt like I needed my own 0:02:11.383,0:02:16.410 sort of, street armour, or whatever 0:02:17.512,0:02:19.950 just to deal with the street,[br]and people out on the street 0:02:19.950,0:02:21.751 and the crazy people,[br]and the real crazy people 0:02:21.751,0:02:23.837 who looked like some of the characters 0:02:23.837,0:02:24.897 I was looking like. 0:02:24.897,0:02:27.493 And I didn't want to be confused,[br]I guess, with them. 0:02:29.718,0:02:32.568 That's the advantage[br]of being in them myself 0:02:32.568,0:02:34.640 is I can just play around. 0:02:36.550,0:02:39.319 When I've experimented[br]with other people in them, 0:02:39.319,0:02:42.102 as models, paid models,[br]or friends or family, 0:02:42.699,0:02:46.919 I feel like I just, [br]I don't know what to tell them to do 0:02:46.871,0:02:48.062 because I don't really know 0:02:48.062,0:02:50.459 what it is I'm looking for until I see it. 0:02:50.569,0:02:54.008 So I tend to sort of rush them[br]through the whole process. 0:02:55.327,0:02:57.777 Then I redo it with myself,[br]and it's like grueling. 0:02:57.777,0:03:00.020 So, I mean, even though I love to do it, 0:03:00.020,0:03:01.523 it's much more work 0:03:01.523,0:03:04.035 because I'm like frustrated 0:03:04.035,0:03:06.856 at trying to capture on film 0:03:06.856,0:03:08.679 something that I can't even articulate. 0:03:08.679,0:03:12.709 Because I don't really know[br]what it is I am looking for. 0:03:12.709,0:03:13.614 until I see it.