WEBVTT 00:00:05.816 --> 00:00:11.810 (drawers scraping) 00:00:13.524 --> 00:00:17.325 - (Cindy) Did you know they have press-on nails for pedicures? 00:00:17.339 --> 00:00:18.689 (chuckles) 00:00:18.689 --> 00:00:19.511 - (Speaker) Wait a minute- 00:00:19.511 --> 00:00:20.772 - (Cindy) I haven't tried them yet, 00:00:20.772 --> 00:00:23.334 but I'm really dying to try them, 00:00:23.334 --> 00:00:24.400 isn't that crazy? (chuckles) 00:00:26.361 --> 00:00:28.161 I'm thinking of just wearing them myself 00:00:28.379 --> 00:00:30.505 just for a party, just as a joke, you know? 00:00:30.505 --> 00:00:34.030 I mean, they just, I mean, except these aren't as obvious. 00:00:34.030 --> 00:00:35.181 These are maybe more obvious 00:00:35.181 --> 00:00:36.922 because they have little polka dots on them 00:00:36.922 --> 00:00:38.061 and they just look like, 00:00:38.061 --> 00:00:40.935 'Who would wear little polka dots on your toes?' 00:00:46.905 --> 00:00:50.712 My work is not about fantasizing 00:00:50.712 --> 00:00:52.554 about characters or situations. 00:00:54.182 --> 00:00:56.044 Some people, I think, have thought that 00:00:56.955 --> 00:00:59.098 the characters I do were, 00:01:00.116 --> 00:01:02.066 yeah, as if I've always fantasized 00:01:02.114 --> 00:01:06.004 about being a femme fatale or whatever, you know, 00:01:06.771 --> 00:01:08.073 in my film stills. 00:01:09.443 --> 00:01:14.319 Yeah, I don't think of it as that literal to me. 00:01:16.509 --> 00:01:17.940 When I'm doing the characters, 00:01:18.123 --> 00:01:21.848 I really don't feel like it's some sort of something 00:01:21.848 --> 00:01:25.747 that grows out of my fantasy, my own dreams. 00:01:29.413 --> 00:01:31.039 In college when I would do it, 00:01:31.169 --> 00:01:33.309 I would become a character 00:01:33.157 --> 00:01:34.878 and then sort of think, 00:01:34.749 --> 00:01:39.070 'Well, gee, here I am as Lucille Ball, and what do I now?' 00:01:40.020 --> 00:01:41.726 So then it became sort of a thing 00:01:41.726 --> 00:01:44.064 and a little more like performance. 00:01:44.064 --> 00:01:47.550 And I started to do it going to parties sometimes. 00:01:48.853 --> 00:01:51.097 I remember once getting all in character 00:01:51.097 --> 00:01:52.557 and wanting to go to some opening 00:01:52.557 --> 00:01:55.252 and feeling like something was missing, 00:01:55.252 --> 00:01:57.851 and then I put a pillow under the dress 00:01:57.851 --> 00:01:59.175 and went as a pregnant woman. 00:02:00.518 --> 00:02:01.502 When I moved to New York, 00:02:01.502 --> 00:02:03.054 I did it a few times, 00:02:03.103 --> 00:02:05.363 but it suddenly wasn't the same 00:02:05.372 --> 00:02:06.972 I think because in the city 00:02:07.442 --> 00:02:11.383 I felt like I needed my own 00:02:11.383 --> 00:02:16.410 sort of, street armour, or whatever 00:02:17.452 --> 00:02:20.092 just to deal with the street, and people out on the street, 00:02:19.970 --> 00:02:21.861 and the crazy people, and the real crazy people 00:02:21.861 --> 00:02:23.897 who looked like some of the characters 00:02:23.897 --> 00:02:25.117 I was looking like. 00:02:25.117 --> 00:02:27.433 And I didn't want to be confused, I guess, with them. 00:02:29.718 --> 00:02:32.568 That's the advantage of being in them myself 00:02:32.568 --> 00:02:34.640 is I can just play around. 00:02:36.550 --> 00:02:39.369 When I've experimented with other people in them, 00:02:39.305 --> 00:02:42.102 as models, paid models, or friends or family, 00:02:42.809 --> 00:02:46.919 I feel like I just, I don't know what to tell them to do 00:02:46.871 --> 00:02:48.062 because I don't really know 00:02:48.062 --> 00:02:50.459 what it is I'm looking for until I see it. 00:02:50.699 --> 00:02:54.008 So I tend to sort of rush them through the whole process. 00:02:55.327 --> 00:02:58.057 Then I redo it with myself, and it's like grueling. 00:02:58.810 --> 00:03:00.330 So, I mean, even though I love to do it, 00:03:00.330 --> 00:03:01.523 it's much more work 00:03:01.523 --> 00:03:04.175 because I'm like frustrated 00:03:04.175 --> 00:03:06.976 at trying to capture on film 00:03:06.976 --> 00:03:08.889 something that I can't even articulate. 00:03:08.889 --> 00:03:12.859 Because I don't really know what it is I am looking for. 00:03:12.859 --> 00:03:13.614 until I see it.