1 00:00:05,816 --> 00:00:11,810 (drawers scraping) 2 00:00:13,524 --> 00:00:17,325 - (Cindy) Did you know they have press-on nails for pedicures? 3 00:00:17,339 --> 00:00:18,689 (chuckles) 4 00:00:18,689 --> 00:00:19,511 - (Speaker) Wait a minute- 5 00:00:19,511 --> 00:00:20,772 - (Cindy) I haven't tried them yet, 6 00:00:20,772 --> 00:00:23,334 but I'm really dying to try them, 7 00:00:23,334 --> 00:00:24,400 isn't that crazy? (chuckles) 8 00:00:26,361 --> 00:00:28,161 I'm thinking of just wearing them myself 9 00:00:28,379 --> 00:00:30,505 just for a party, just as a joke, you know? 10 00:00:30,505 --> 00:00:34,030 I mean, they just, I mean, except these aren't as obvious. 11 00:00:34,030 --> 00:00:35,181 These are maybe more obvious 12 00:00:35,181 --> 00:00:36,922 because they have little polka dots on them 13 00:00:36,922 --> 00:00:38,061 and they just look like, 14 00:00:38,061 --> 00:00:40,935 'Who would wear little polka dots on your toes?' 15 00:00:46,905 --> 00:00:50,712 My work is not about fantasizing 16 00:00:50,712 --> 00:00:52,554 about characters or situations. 17 00:00:54,182 --> 00:00:56,044 Some people, I think, have thought that 18 00:00:56,955 --> 00:00:59,098 the characters I do were, 19 00:01:00,116 --> 00:01:02,066 yeah, as if I've always fantasized 20 00:01:02,114 --> 00:01:06,004 about being a femme fatale or whatever, you know, 21 00:01:06,771 --> 00:01:08,073 in my film stills. 22 00:01:09,443 --> 00:01:14,319 Yeah, I don't think of it as that literal to me. 23 00:01:16,509 --> 00:01:17,940 When I'm doing the characters, 24 00:01:18,123 --> 00:01:21,848 I really don't feel like it's some sort of something 25 00:01:21,848 --> 00:01:25,747 that grows out of my fantasy, my own dreams. 26 00:01:29,413 --> 00:01:31,039 In college when I would do it, 27 00:01:31,169 --> 00:01:33,309 I would become a character 28 00:01:33,157 --> 00:01:34,878 and then sort of think, 29 00:01:34,749 --> 00:01:39,070 'Well, gee, here I am as Lucille Ball, and what do I now?' 30 00:01:40,020 --> 00:01:41,726 So then it became sort of a thing 31 00:01:41,726 --> 00:01:44,064 and a little more like performance. 32 00:01:44,064 --> 00:01:47,550 And I started to do it going to parties sometimes. 33 00:01:48,853 --> 00:01:51,097 I remember once getting all in character 34 00:01:51,097 --> 00:01:52,557 and wanting to go to some opening 35 00:01:52,557 --> 00:01:55,252 and feeling like something was missing, 36 00:01:55,252 --> 00:01:57,851 and then I put a pillow under the dress 37 00:01:57,851 --> 00:01:59,175 and went as a pregnant woman. 38 00:02:00,518 --> 00:02:01,502 When I moved to New York, 39 00:02:01,502 --> 00:02:03,054 I did it a few times, 40 00:02:03,103 --> 00:02:05,363 but it suddenly wasn't the same 41 00:02:05,372 --> 00:02:06,972 I think because in the city 42 00:02:07,442 --> 00:02:11,383 I felt like I needed my own 43 00:02:11,383 --> 00:02:16,410 sort of, street armour, or whatever 44 00:02:17,452 --> 00:02:20,092 just to deal with the street, and people out on the street, 45 00:02:19,970 --> 00:02:21,861 and the crazy people, and the real crazy people 46 00:02:21,861 --> 00:02:23,897 who looked like some of the characters 47 00:02:23,897 --> 00:02:25,117 I was looking like. 48 00:02:25,117 --> 00:02:27,433 And I didn't want to be confused, I guess, with them. 49 00:02:29,718 --> 00:02:32,568 That's the advantage of being in them myself 50 00:02:32,568 --> 00:02:34,640 is I can just play around. 51 00:02:36,550 --> 00:02:39,369 When I've experimented with other people in them, 52 00:02:39,305 --> 00:02:42,102 as models, paid models, or friends or family, 53 00:02:42,809 --> 00:02:46,919 I feel like I just, I don't know what to tell them to do 54 00:02:46,871 --> 00:02:48,062 because I don't really know 55 00:02:48,062 --> 00:02:50,459 what it is I'm looking for until I see it. 56 00:02:50,699 --> 00:02:54,008 So I tend to sort of rush them through the whole process. 57 00:02:55,327 --> 00:02:58,057 Then I redo it with myself, and it's like grueling. 58 00:02:58,810 --> 00:03:00,330 So, I mean, even though I love to do it, 59 00:03:00,330 --> 00:03:01,523 it's much more work 60 00:03:01,523 --> 00:03:04,175 because I'm like frustrated 61 00:03:04,175 --> 00:03:06,976 at trying to capture on film 62 00:03:06,976 --> 00:03:08,889 something that I can't even articulate. 63 00:03:08,889 --> 00:03:12,859 Because I don't really know what it is I am looking for. 64 00:03:12,859 --> 00:03:13,614 until I see it.