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Those of you who follow us on Facebook

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may wonder why we have

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things like this on Facebook.

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And I do hope everyone is following us

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on Facebook.

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But if you do follow us [br]on Facebook

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you know that we have a laugh

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in the afternoon everyday.

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Can you all see that? OK

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So, you know, we have things

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like this or things like this one.

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This one was just up earlier this week.

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It's a scientist's tip on how you tell an

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alligator from a crocodile,

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by whether the animal will see you later

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or in a while. That's how you can tell

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OK. There's another way you can tell

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the difference between them

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and that is if the animal is singing

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and dancing and playing a musical

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instrument, it's certainly an alligator

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Crocodiles would never do anything

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like that, so why do we do this?

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Why are we 'yucking' it up all the time

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Well, the fact is that the topics we

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deal with on a regular basis [br]are very grim.

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We deal with a lot of dark stuff.

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As you just saw, our previous speaker,

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practically in tears,

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And he's not the only one that's going

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through this type of stuff.

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And one of the least fun things that

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we deal with now is child abuse.

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These are not fun things to deal with.

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So we laugh, we try to yuck it up and have

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a good time, because if we don't,

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we'll give up. We gotta be in it for the

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long haul, which means you gotta be

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able to, you know, have some fun once

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in a while. So that's why we have

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stupid alligators and chick magnets

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and things like that on our website

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every afternoon.

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So, I mentioned this pamphlet,

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"Do you know a survivor

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
of the Sexual Revolution?"

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If you open that up and study it,

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you will not see survivors

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
of sexual abuse on there.

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And the reason they're not on there

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is because when I was working this out in

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
2013, I said to myself: "Well you know

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
there's always been sexual abuse,

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
it isn't really fair to attribute that to

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
the Sexual Revolution. [br]And besides, look at

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
all these other stuff we have to work on.

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Isn't this enough for one organization?

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And besides, secretly, I didn't want to

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deal with it because it's not really...

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It's awful. No one really wants to deal

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
with it, but then last year

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these issues started coming up, with the

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
sexual harassment issues with

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Harvey Weinstein and all of these things

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And you could kind of see that the girls

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
were trying to solve the #metoo movement

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but they weren't really going to get it

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
done because they were kind of hanging

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
on to the Sexual Revolution.

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They were hanging onto things they

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
shouldn't be hanging on to.

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And, so I thought: [br]"You know, maybe we need

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to be talking about this". And then

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the whole thing broke with [br]the clergy sexual abuse

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
within the Catholic Church, and then I

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just became really convinced

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"yeah, we gotta deal with it".[br]the Reuben Institutes got to deal with it.

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First off, nobody else will deal with

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
the broad spectrum of the Sexual

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
Revolution like we will, so therefore

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we're the only guys in the field.

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But also the Sexual Revolution is deeply

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implicated in this whole thing.

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For this reason, the Sexual Revolution is

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a set of ideas, and those ideas

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empower predators. They encourage

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predators. The core idea of the

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
Sexual Revolution is that everybody is

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entitled to sex! Everybody is entitled to

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guilt-free, child-free, problem-free sex.

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And anybody who says otherwise is

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violating your human rights, for crying

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out loud! [br]Who really thinks

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you're entitled to sex? I mean come on,

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that's the view of a rapist. That's not

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real to think you're entitled to sex.

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So that one idea, has many tentacles

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and is a very poisonous idea. And at the

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
same time, these ideas also undermine the

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
victims. They disarm the victims.

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And so the Sexual Revolution is profoundly

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implicated in the whole thing. And so,

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that's what motivated me to reach out

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to our next speaker, Moira Greyland Peat,

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whom we're going to honour as

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the public witness of the year.

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I met Moira at an event sponsored by

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in Texas, and I heard her story of growing

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up with openly, actively gay and

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
lesbian parents. She's the author of the

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best selling book The Last Closet and

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she's the daughter of famous gay

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authors, Marion Zimmer Bradley and

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Walter Breen. And this is a photo of Moira

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
there, in the center, with her mother

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
and her brother. Her mother was the

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author of this series of books,

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The Mists of Avalon. She was married to

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
Walter Breen, who was also a famous author.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
Moira's mother had a long-time lesbian

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
lover, and Walter Breen lived an active

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
homosexual life and was himself an

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unrepentant child molester. Both of her

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
parents sexual abused Moira and her

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
brother for years. And since they were

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famous authors, and icons really, in the

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
science fiction community, people didn't

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really do much about it.

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Her father enjoyed being in hot tubs

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with children. Sometimes without any

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clothes on. He would encourage

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kids to get into the hot tub with him

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
without any clothes on. And numerous

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
adults saw or could have seen that the

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kids were being groomed.

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And really, for all practical purposes,

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nobody did anything about it.

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As a teenager, Moira called the police

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
on her father, when she caught him

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in the act of molesting a 11-year-old boy

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Her father was arrested, put in prison,

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where he died, and her family considered

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
this an act of betrayal. Rather than

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
denying what her father did, her mother

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said, "well children have the right to

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
make up their own lines about having sex

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
with adults". [br]Her father had made his views

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clear in this book called Greek Love

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and a journal called The Journal of

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
Greek Love, which she edited.

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In 2014, Moira revealed all these things

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
about her parents. People were shocked,

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
and she was shocked to find how many

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
people who were also children of gays,

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
reached out to her with similar stories.

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So The Last Closet, Moira's book,

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is not simply a tale of victimization

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its also a tale that explains [br]how her parents

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became who they became.

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But Moira regards herself as lucky in one way,

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her lifelong pain resulted

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in workholism and as a result,[br]she is a successful professional

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musician. You wrote this, Girl.

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I'm taking this right off your bio.[br](laughter)

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She is the founder and former artistic

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director of the Royal English Opera.

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She is an award-winning dramatic colour true

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soprano with a nearly five-octave range.

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She is an accomplished concert harpist,

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singer, composer, recruiting artist and

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movie actress. [br]Tonight... oops.

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Tonight, we're gonna hear her

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tell her story and perhaps, recite

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a poem or two from her work.

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But, first of all, help me welcome our

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Ruth Institute Public Witness of the Year

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awardee Moira Greyland.[br](Audience applause)

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Thank you so much, Moira ...

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Thank you.

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(Moira) Good evening, How are you doing?

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Usually when I'm in front of a

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crowd of people i'm sitting in the corner

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with a harp and i don't have to talk

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i'm just going to sit there, [br](hums)

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I'm the radio and that is i think very much

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how i felt about my parents

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for a long time. I'm just going to watch

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and not say anything[br]i want just

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to play the harp over here.

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anyway Doug.. who is a wonderful witness

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
in his own right, contacted me

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this afternoon and asked me to send him

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a text of my speech.

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Now since I'm usually speak [br]extemporaneously

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usually...[br]in the one speaking occasion I had

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before this, so I didn't have any text

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to send him but i thought he wants me to

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send the text I better write some.

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thus the podium.[br]I'm sure I'll look

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at it eventually.

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In any case. [br]First of all, I wanted

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to talk to you about growing up straight

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and closeted. Yes closeted. My book is

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called "The Last Closet". Am I saying:

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"Alas! I'm the closet because I'm that

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horrible of a sexual person who has no

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
refuge and it is so very sad?"

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No? It's because i was growing

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up in a family of gay people, and I was

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straight, and when i finally was able

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
to admit this to my parents, they were

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incensed. [br]Because my job as a child of gays

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is to make them feel good.

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Is to make them happy about themselves.

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I will give a very extreme example

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
of what happens when we, children of gays,

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cannot be the perfect advocates

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that our needy, victimised parents need us

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
to be. [br]A little while ago there was a

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
case that was big in the news[br]and it was

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
of a married lesbian couple and their six

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
adopted children.[br]When CPS was closing in

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
to investigate the starvation and terrible

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
brutality that these children were

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
subjected to.[br]Rather than let these children talk

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
about what happened to them,[br]the mother dosed the children and her wife

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
with Benadryl and drove all eight of them[br]off a cliff.

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I understood this story [br]and followed it closely, because

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
I really understood how it was [br]that the most important thing[br]

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
in the gay family is to make sure that[br]the children approve, approve, approve.

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that is why we are there! If we do not approve.[br]we don't deserve to be alive.

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Now, that's heavy as hell. I am sorry about that.[br]Back to my speech! It's all here!

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OK. My name is Moira Greyland.[br]I am the daughter of two gay authors.

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my mother is famous science fiction author, Marion Zimmer Bradley. [br][br]

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Author of the Arthurian series, [br]the bestselling book,[br]The Mists of Avalon.

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The MoA is a re-telling of the King Arthur legend [br]from a feminist perspective.

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Naturally, the only way the only way to get Arthur, Gwenievere and Lancelot [br][br]into bed together at the same time

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is to throw history, religion and good manners out of the window!

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which is very much what happened in our family.

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my father is famous numismatic author, [br]Walter Breen. [br]

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Between the two of them, [br][br]they were well over 100 books.

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my parents were both sexually abused as children. [br]And both had broken relationships [br][br]

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with their opposite sex parents, while desperately[br]needing the love and approval of their same sex parent.

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My mother was repeatedly raped by her [br]drunken father in the front seat of their truck,[br][br]

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where she would drive far away [br]from her farm house so[br][br]

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
her screams would not be heard. [br]When she finally got the nerve to [br]

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
call the cops,[br][br](whispers) Its a tradition now, I guess,

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(regular) her father was arrested. [br]But her mother forced her [br]

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
to drop the charges, [br]rather than the sole provider imprisoned.

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My father was brought up [br]in an orphanage,

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
where his adoptive mother worked[br]as a janitor.

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he hated her for her harsh punishments,[br][br]

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and what he viewed as her religious [br]excesses.[br]

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She put him in a monastery[br]when he was eleven.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
hoping he would become a priest. [br]All he would say about his exposure

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
to the priests was that the experiences [br]he had with them was the

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
only love he had ever known.[br]He was hidden from his adoptive

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
father when they divorced[br]and he always longed for [br]

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
his missing father.[br]Both my parents identified [br]

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
as gay long before they met.[br]My mother had lesbian relationships

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
in her teens, which did not stop her [br]from marrying a man at 19 and having

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my oldest brother, David.[br]she ended up hating her first husband[br]

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
for forcing her into repeated abortions.[br]and when she told him she would

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
never have another abortion, [br]he simply stopped sleeping

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
with her. [br]her liaisons with women continued.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
my father already preferred boys [br]from his teenage years on.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
his first arrest was in 1954[br]for exposing himself to a young boy[br][br]

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
on a boardwalk in Atlantic City.[br]He was involved with a famous doctor,[br][br]

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Doctor Shelden, who was [br]into eugenics... nice fellow.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
In a set of experiments in Colombia University,[br]called The Super Kids, [br]which was about high IQ children.[br]

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Now I am not convinced that all these boys [br]were necessarily so high 'IQ'ed.[br]

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But I am absolutely convinced that all these boys[br]had in common is that they were available. [br]

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because for some strange reason, all these boys[br]ended up being paedophiles themselves.

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even on that day, my father was using sci-fic[br]

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
conventions to groom his young targets. [br]My parents met through sci-fic fandoms

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and through mutual memberships at MENSA,[br]which is another story.[br]

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my father was already well known [br]as a paedophile in sci-fic circles.

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but since counter cultures back[br]in the 60s were reluctant to reject anyone,

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he was tolerated.[br]the scandal called Breendoggle

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that is B-R-E-E-N D-O-G-G-L-E, is online.[br]you can read what happened.

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it contains eye witness reports of my father[br]publicly molesting about 10 children. [br]

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and when I say children, I mean,[br]children under the age of 12.

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the youngest one was a little girl

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who was 3. And this was in front [br]of other people.

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nobody stopped him. The closest anyone came [br]to stopping him

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was the mother saying that she was [br]

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going to order her children to barricade

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themselves in their rooms if he came to visit [br]

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That was as far as anyone would go.

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(Pause)

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A few people hated him. Others wondered

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whether he was actually harming the kids,

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yet others were oblivious.

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Some even claimed that they didn't like one

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of the boys he was sleeping with.

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So what happened to the little bastard?[br]Is what they said.

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my mother walked fully into the scandal

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fully cognisant and ready to marry my father.

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Did my mother object to my father's actions?

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Not on a tint pipe.

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Admidst public denials, she welcomed the 10-year-old

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boy he was sleeping with to bed [br]with both of them!