0:00:24.800,0:00:26.680 PALLAVI SHASTRY: We're here to share an amazing 0:00:26.710,0:00:28.939 Rails Girls Summer of Code experience. 0:00:28.939,0:00:31.520 It was an internship of about three months, 0:00:31.520,0:00:33.160 and we were the team Diasbits. 0:00:33.160,0:00:38.149 So Dias is the short form of the Open Source[br]project 0:00:38.149,0:00:41.010 we picked up called Diaspora and 'bits,' 0:00:41.010,0:00:44.570 we were trying to be the tiny, teeny tiny[br]bits of Diaspora 0:00:44.570,0:00:46.260 by contributing to Diaspora, 0:00:46.260,0:00:51.690 and that's how we picked up the name Diaspora. 0:00:51.690,0:00:54.210 So we are- I'm Pallavi. 0:00:54.210,0:00:57.109 I'm working as a developer in Bang the Table 0:00:57.109,0:00:59.920 and this is my coding partner Sakshi Jain. 0:00:59.920,0:01:06.920 She's a final year engineering student from[br]Rajasthan. 0:01:07.060,0:01:09.360 And let's say more about Rails Girls. 0:01:09.360,0:01:13.430 Sakshi Jain: So we're here to share about[br]the fun 0:01:13.430,0:01:16.150 we had during Rails Girls summer of code, 0:01:16.150,0:01:18.120 and so we'll be talking less technical and[br]more, 0:01:18.120,0:01:19.610 sharing more of the fun. 0:01:19.610,0:01:25.110 So, Rails Girls- the aim of Rails Girls is[br]to give 0:01:25.110,0:01:29.500 tools to women and a community so that they 0:01:29.500,0:01:34.600 understand technology and build it ideas. 0:01:34.600,0:01:37.330 So this they do by providing them 0:01:37.330,0:01:42.930 a great experience and making technology more[br]approachable. 0:01:42.930,0:01:48.270 So let's see more about Rails Girls, here. 0:01:48.270,0:01:49.480 [VIDEO] 0:01:49.480,0:01:56.480 Girl: We want to give the girls a chance to[br]build a web application from concept to code. 0:02:13.560,0:02:20.560 Boy: And we think it's important that the[br]girls learn to see the web as a platform for 0:02:34.770,0:02:38.010 their ideas. 0:02:38.010,0:02:42.880 [indecipherable lecture & chatting] 0:02:42.880,0:02:48.680 Voice Over: It's really awesome to see you[br]all here, 0:02:48.680,0:02:54.180 because I hope that you're actually going[br]to start building web apps and services. 0:02:54.180,0:03:01.180 Boy: So we want to get the girls to destroy[br]the world! 0:03:07.210,0:03:10.580 P.S.: So after connecting in a number of workshops[br]and meet-ups, 0:03:10.580,0:03:14.030 so the Rails Girls organizers decided to take[br]it to the next step 0:03:14.030,0:03:17.110 and that's how the Rails Girls Summer of Code[br]was born. 0:03:17.110,0:03:21.650 So Rails Girls Summer of Code- 0:03:21.650,0:03:24.830 the main idea was to get women and girls into[br]Open Source. 0:03:24.830,0:03:27.540 And it works very similar to Google Summer[br]of Code 0:03:27.540,0:03:29.950 and Ruby Summer of Code, where students will[br]be paid, 0:03:29.950,0:03:34.350 and the students are free to pick up any Open[br]Source project work on. 0:03:34.350,0:03:39.670 And like the Google Summer of Code and the[br]Ruby Summer of Code, 0:03:39.670,0:03:42.380 the idea of Rails Girls Summer of Code was[br]to expand 0:03:42.380,0:03:45.569 the knowledge and skills by contributing to[br]great Open Source Projects. 0:03:45.569,0:03:47.840 So you don't have to come up with a sophisticated[br]code 0:03:47.840,0:03:49.890 by the end of your internship. 0:03:49.890,0:03:56.890 So there were about forty applications from[br]about 0:03:57.340,0:04:00.360 one forty students from all over the world. 0:04:00.360,0:04:02.080 And few of them were outstandingly prepared, 0:04:02.080,0:04:04.610 few of them had their own support networks 0:04:04.610,0:04:07.459 from local community and coaches, 0:04:07.459,0:04:09.940 and few of them had their own personal stories. 0:04:09.940,0:04:10.310 And this 0:04:10.310,0:04:10.620 00:04:10.26 ?? 0:04:10.620,0:04:12.370 was the teams that got selected from 0:04:12.370,0:04:19.370 different parts of the world, and we were[br]the team from India. 0:04:25.300,0:04:29.569 So we were a team. So team consisted of participants, 0:04:29.569,0:04:32.340 coaches and mentors. So the participants were[br]me and Sakshi. 0:04:32.340,0:04:34.949 It was a paired event. And coaches- 0:04:34.949,0:04:39.270 coaches are the people who you used to help[br]us with all our doubts, 0:04:39.270,0:04:42.770 you know, help us whenever we get stuck with[br]anything. 0:04:42.770,0:04:46.099 And mentors are the people who know in and[br]out about the project we picked up. 0:04:46.099,0:04:53.099 So we picked up Diaspora and we had Diaspora[br]developers as our mentors. 0:04:53.270,0:04:55.449 And these people were our coaches. 0:04:55.449,0:04:58.559 Arihant Godha, Neha, and Tejas Dinkar, 0:04:58.559,0:05:02.039 the guy who spoke about native extensions. 0:05:02.039,0:05:08.759 It was not only coding, the whole three months. 0:05:08.759,0:05:10.759 We had a lot of fun activities, 0:05:10.759,0:05:12.729 not only reporting or blogging about the work 0:05:12.729,0:05:14.659 we did or the coding we did. 0:05:14.659,0:05:15.580 We did have regular interactions, 0:05:15.580,0:05:16.779 hang-outs with our mentors, other teams, 0:05:16.779,0:05:21.270 and we met a lot of awesome people. 0:05:21.270,0:05:28.059 And we got a lot of goodies from all the sponsors. 0:05:28.059,0:05:29.669 And Sakshi will tell us more about the project. 0:05:29.669,0:05:34.900 S.J.: Yeah, so let's see about what projects[br]did we actually work for. 0:05:34.900,0:05:40.199 We chose to work for Rails Girls App generator[br]and Diaspora. 0:05:40.199,0:05:42.309 Initially we thought that we'd be working[br]for Diaspora 0:05:42.309,0:05:46.379 for the whole three months, but Diaspora is[br]a huge project, 0:05:46.379,0:05:47.460 and it was really difficult for us, 0:05:47.460,0:05:51.240 for us beginners to understand what actually[br]Diaspora is, 0:05:51.240,0:05:53.210 and how we should contribute to it. 0:05:53.210,0:05:57.729 And it requires a lot of knowledge of Rails[br]and other things. 0:05:57.729,0:06:03.249 So we chose, we started off with Rails Girls[br]App generator. 0:06:03.249,0:06:09.770 This project also included our visits to Rails[br]Girls events in Bangalore and 0:06:09.770,0:06:10.460 00:06:09.90?? . 0:06:10.460,0:06:14.619 So, what do we actually do in the Rails Girls[br]events 0:06:14.619,0:06:17.559 is that we learn more about Rails, 0:06:17.559,0:06:22.569 and we get to meet a lot of people and we[br]can meet our coaches, 0:06:22.569,0:06:25.960 we can ask any doubt we have in our mind. 0:06:25.960,0:06:32.449 And also there's a lot of chance to have nice[br]pictures of Friday hug. 0:06:32.449,0:06:36.710 So during this project, what we did is- 0:06:36.710,0:06:41.270 Rails Girls App generator is about adding[br]comments 0:06:41.270,0:06:44.360 targeted at Rails Girls students 0:06:44.360,0:06:49.300 and it removes more complicated stuff 0:06:49.300,0:06:54.509 like respond-to blocks and JSON stuff in controllers,[br]et cetera. 0:06:54.509,0:06:57.919 So this project also includes a 0:06:57.919,0:06:58.999 JQ 00:06:58.37 ?? 0:06:58.999,0:07:02.169 based website hosted on GitHub pages, 0:07:02.169,0:07:09.080 which gives pointers to the guides and other[br]resources - 0:07:09.080,0:07:15.110 beginners, intermediate, et cetera. 0:07:15.110,0:07:19.419 So after finishing off with Rails Girls App[br]generator, 0:07:19.419,0:07:23.960 which took us about a month to figure out[br]what exactly has to be done, 0:07:23.960,0:07:29.589 and we learnt more about Rails, et cetera,[br]then we switched on to Diaspora. 0:07:29.589,0:07:36.589 Diaspora is a legacy-aware decentralized social[br]network, 0:07:36.960,0:07:40.539 which gives the user whole control of their[br]data. 0:07:40.539,0:07:43.229 And it was touted by the media as a Facebook-killer. 0:07:43.229,0:07:47.099 So, why is it called as a Facebook-killer? 0:07:47.099,0:07:49.449 Because it is completely different 0:07:49.449,0:07:55.159 and it gives the user complete freedom and[br]privacy. 0:07:55.159,0:08:01.490 So I should not speak much about Diaspora[br]because I haven't contributed to it much. 0:08:01.490,0:08:03.029 Let's see- next slide. 0:08:03.029,0:08:06.419 Yeah. So before contributing to Diaspora, 0:08:06.419,0:08:09.270 we had some doubt in our mind as to what exactly 0:08:09.270,0:08:11.159 should we know about Diaspora, 0:08:11.159,0:08:13.539 and how should we even contribute to it? 0:08:13.539,0:08:16.329 So how- should we start reading 0:08:16.329,0:08:16.330 ?? 00:08:16.29 0:08:16.330,0:08:17.860 books from starting to end, 0:08:17.860,0:08:20.039 or should we start learning all the languages: 0:08:20.039,0:08:20.589 Ruby, Javascript, et cetera. 0:08:20.589,0:08:25.999 So, this was the answer which was given to[br]us by the Diaspora developer. 0:08:25.999,0:08:30.409 He said that, "Never try to learn everything[br]up front, 0:08:30.409,0:08:36.130 that doesn't work. Better pick upa little[br]task and learn what you need to solve it." 0:08:36.130,0:08:38.380 So this, we formed as a principle 0:08:38.380,0:08:41.669 and so now we use this concept whenever 0:08:41.669,0:08:46.470 we start contributing to any Open Source project. 0:08:46.470,0:08:50.319 Also, one important thing that what prior[br]knowledge 0:08:50.319,0:08:53.149 should we have before making any contributions. 0:08:53.149,0:08:56.399 He said that git workflow is the most important[br]thing, 0:08:56.399,0:08:59.420 and learn everything else as you go. 0:08:59.420,0:09:04.990 So this is a concept which helps you to save[br]your time. 0:09:04.990,0:09:08.990 Just pick up one task and research about it[br]and try to solve it. 0:09:08.990,0:09:11.680 If you have less time, that means you should[br]not start 0:09:11.680,0:09:15.019 the reading whole of the languages. 0:09:15.019,0:09:18.699 It is good if you know everything, but, 0:09:18.699,0:09:21.550 if you have less time that means you set about[br]a particular bug, 0:09:21.550,0:09:25.399 which you want to fix. 0:09:25.399,0:09:30.759 So we picked up some issues from Diaspora[br]issue list, 0:09:30.759,0:09:35.079 and these were the few issues from the beginner's[br]category, 0:09:35.079,0:09:39.069 and these are some of the issues: 0:09:39.069,0:09:41.360 Blocking people from the profile page, fix[br]commenting, 0:09:41.360,0:09:46.329 comment still displayed after a fail posting,[br]et cetera. 0:09:46.329,0:09:49.170 So let me explain to you about the blocking[br]feature, 0:09:49.170,0:09:53.730 which we introduced into Diaspora. 0:09:53.730,0:09:57.459 So as you can see in the image, 0:09:57.459,0:10:00.190 first we had to design what, 0:10:00.190,0:10:07.190 where should the block icon be placed on the[br]profile page in Diaspora. 0:10:07.769,0:10:11.250 So we went through a series of design steps. 0:10:11.250,0:10:15.350 As you can see, we had the block in the drop-down, 0:10:15.350,0:10:19.220 and then a little finishing was required. 0:10:19.220,0:10:25.230 Finally we came down to one design, which[br]was accepted by most of the people. 0:10:25.230,0:10:29.730 So through all this we learned about how to[br]communicate 0:10:29.730,0:10:34.139 in Open Source projects, what, 0:10:34.139,0:10:41.139 how to ask Diaspora developers how do they[br]review, et cetera. 0:10:42.690,0:10:47.940 After fixing our design, then we, 0:10:47.940,0:10:50.629 what we did was, we had to figure out what[br]exactly, 0:10:50.629,0:10:53.209 where exactly the code should be placed. 0:10:53.209,0:10:55.560 So we had to figure out which files will be[br]effected. 0:10:55.560,0:10:58.910 So all this we could do with the help of Diaspora[br]developers. 0:10:58.910,0:11:02.639 So, Pallavi, what did we learn? 0:11:02.639,0:11:08.690 P.S.: Rails, of course, and the Git workflow, 0:11:08.690,0:11:14.160 and we had this oh-my-god situations when[br]we had much conflicts. 0:11:14.160,0:11:19.519 So, how do we branch out? How do we fix it? 0:11:19.519,0:11:21.250 And then how do we send a poll-request? 0:11:21.250,0:11:24.970 And how do developers review it? And how they[br]comment? 0:11:24.970,0:11:27.910 The whole Git workflow basically, and working[br]remotely. 0:11:27.910,0:11:29.879 So Sakshi's from Ajmer. I'm from Banglore. 0:11:29.879,0:11:32.100 So for the first few days, in the beginning, 0:11:32.100,0:11:34.709 it was difficult for us to communicate. 0:11:34.709,0:11:38.050 And also the developers are from Berlin, 0:11:38.050,0:11:40.620 and coach is luckily a developer from Banglore. 0:11:40.620,0:11:42.060 And most of the time it was through pinging 0:11:42.060,0:11:46.160 or email or IRC we could communicate with[br]each other. 0:11:46.160,0:11:49.550 And not only fixing the bugs, we also, 0:11:49.550,0:11:51.220 it was a test in development. 0:11:51.220,0:11:56.300 So we learned a lot about RSPEC or 00:11:53.15??[br]and all that. 0:11:56.300,0:11:59.060 S.J.: The impact. 0:11:59.060,0:12:06.060 The impact is that we are standing here and[br]speaking in front of you. 0:12:10.430,0:12:13.079 So the whole Rails Girls Summer of Code journey 0:12:13.079,0:12:15.879 had a great impact on our life and career. 0:12:15.879,0:12:21.779 So we know, like, what exactly we want to[br]do now, and what is our destination. 0:12:21.779,0:12:25.060 Though we still have to learn a lot and, 0:12:25.060,0:12:28.660 it made us realize that we too have the capability 0:12:28.660,0:12:34.370 to implement our ideas and we got to meet[br]a lot of 0:12:34.370,0:12:36.209 people from all over the world. 0:12:36.209,0:12:39.660 We understood the learning strategy of different[br]people 0:12:39.660,0:12:46.660 from different countries. We realized that[br]we too have the, 0:12:46.920,0:12:49.550 fortunately we too have the chance to make[br]things, 0:12:49.550,0:12:54.750 to change the world and make things better,[br]and happen. 0:12:54.750,0:12:58.279 Thank you! 0:12:58.279,0:13:01.329 Thank you to the coaches, to the mentors, 0:13:01.329,0:13:04.370 to the organizers of Rails Girls Summer of[br]Code journey, 0:13:04.370,0:13:06.769 to the Garden City Ruby Conference organizers 0:13:06.769,0:13:10.389 for giving us this opportunity to speak here. 0:13:10.389,0:13:11.360 Thank you all. 0:13:11.360,0:13:13.839 P.S.: Any questions? 0:13:13.839,0:13:20.839 V.O.: We do have time for questions, yeah. 0:13:23.220,0:13:29.399 QUERANT: Just wanted to say, good job and[br]all the rest. 0:13:29.399,0:13:32.279 P.S.: Thank you. 0:13:32.279,0:13:35.540 Anyone, any questions? 0:13:35.540,0:13:40.899 QUERANT: I just want to ask like, what are[br]the 0:13:40.899,0:13:41.430 00:13:42.7 ?? 0:13:41.430,0:13:45.480 challenges that you faced with this? I see[br]a lot of- 0:13:45.480,0:13:47.500 I'm not engend- I'm gonna not engender women, 0:13:47.500,0:13:50.999 or something like that, but I see a lot of[br]fresher sort you know, 0:13:50.999,0:13:52.850 people who are just doing their college 0:13:52.850,0:13:55.240 and are finding a real tough time basically 0:13:55.240,0:13:57.399 to learn technology and things. 0:13:57.399,0:14:00.529 Like how do you break that ice, how did you[br]guys do it in specific? 0:14:00.529,0:14:04.139 P.S.: So, we do have that feeling, like, 0:14:04.139,0:14:07.199 we felt timid sometimes because we don't have 0:14:07.199,0:14:09.999 the required technical skills, but then once[br]we got into it, 0:14:09.999,0:14:13.300 we eventually picked up. We slowly picked[br]up. 0:14:13.300,0:14:16.069 And I think the best thing would be to just, 0:14:16.069,0:14:18.029 just don't feel timid, just pick up, 0:14:18.029,0:14:19.749 eventually you'll pick up everything. 0:14:19.749,0:14:21.920 S.J.: And yeah, the Rails Girls Summer of[br]Code 0:14:21.920,0:14:24.170 organizers were so welcoming. 0:14:24.170,0:14:26.379 Anything you can ask them on IRC just ping[br]them, 0:14:26.379,0:14:28.970 they'll give you an answer, you can research, 0:14:28.970,0:14:30.980 you can talk to your coaches. 0:14:30.980,0:14:35.230 So that's how we got to learn a lot of things. 0:14:35.230,0:14:40.670 QUERANT: OK, so I wanted to ask you, 0:14:40.670,0:14:42.230 have you followed up in your college 0:14:42.230,0:14:44.920 and have you told them about it? 0:14:44.920,0:14:47.870 What steps did you take to make people aware? 0:14:47.870,0:14:51.600 Because I did my GSub this summer and I've[br]been trying to do stuff. 0:14:51.600,0:14:54.149 So what are you guys doing in college? 0:14:54.149,0:14:57.749 P.S.: Yes, we did have a similar talk in college, 0:14:57.749,0:15:01.459 we introduced the rest of the girls to this. 0:15:01.459,0:15:03.540 And I'm not very sure when it's gonna happen[br]again, 0:15:03.540,0:15:10.540 but I make sure some of my juniors will take[br]part. 0:15:18.579,0:15:24.259 QUERANT: All right, that's great. 0:15:24.259,0:15:25.110 P.S.: OK 0:15:25.110,0:15:27.459 QUERANT: Again, I love your confidence. 0:15:27.459,0:15:29.889 This was a great talk. So my question is, 0:15:29.889,0:15:32.699 the learnings that you've had in college, 0:15:32.699,0:15:38.629 how much was it applicable in this experience? 0:15:38.629,0:15:40.209 The useful stuff? 0:15:40.209,0:15:43.730 P.S.: Yeah, we got to know that we didn't[br]learn anything, 0:15:43.730,0:15:48.399 and we have to start learning. 0:15:48.399,0:15:50.269 S.J.: Exactly. 0:15:50.269,0:15:55.889 QUERANT: So, finally, Emacs or Vin?? 0:15:55.889,0:16:02.889 P.S.: Yeah, not so much. OK, he has a question. 0:16:03.430,0:16:08.649 QUERANT: What is the answer by the way? 0:16:08.649,0:16:15.649 QUERANT: So that was a good talk. Part of-[br]slightly different question. 0:16:20.329,0:16:22.389 What are you personal plans to take this forward, 0:16:22.389,0:16:26.089 Rails Girls initiatives and the Rails Girls[br]Summer of Code initiatives? 0:16:26.089,0:16:29.790 How you gonna take it forward, because I've[br]seen in the past, 0:16:29.790,0:16:32.910 people come up here on stage, get there visibility, 0:16:32.910,0:16:37.639 get the limelight, get into the corporate[br]bubble, 0:16:37.639,0:16:38.749 and disappear out of this. 0:16:38.749,0:16:41.740 S.J.: So we are standing here, that means[br]we're inspiring students. 0:16:41.740,0:16:45.399 QUERANT: Right now. What are you all going[br]to do? 0:16:45.399,0:16:45.660 S.J.: Yeah. 0:16:45.660,0:16:46.569 P.S.: OK, we're still contributing to Diaspora, 0:16:46.569,0:16:50.949 there are few peers left under review, and[br]now we know, 0:16:50.949,0:16:53.870 we have a fair idea of how to contribute to[br]Open Source, 0:16:53.870,0:16:55.709 so we'll pick up some other Open Source project. 0:16:55.709,0:16:57.029 I tried my hands on 0:16:57.029,0:16:57.550 00:16:56.77 ?? 0:16:57.550,0:17:01.110 Yeah. Pretty much take it forward that way. 0:17:01.110,0:17:02.809 QUERANT: And one request. 0:17:02.809,0:17:03.839 Inspire others, please, 0:17:03.839,0:17:06.709 other girls especially to get onto the same[br]boat here. 0:17:06.709,0:17:07.970 Well done, thanks. 0:17:07.970,0:17:10.050 P.S.: Thank you. 0:17:10.050,0:17:16.450 So we have a lot of time for questions. 0:17:16.450,0:17:18.940 QUERANT: I have a sister, who is going to 0:17:18.940,0:17:19.210 00:17:18.20?? 0:17:19.210,0:17:22.990 this year. So do you have any statements for 0:17:22.990,0:17:28.690 what should I tell her to do or ask her to[br]follow? 0:17:28.690,0:17:34.220 P.S.: So basically when we applied, they asked[br]us to show sample codes. 0:17:34.220,0:17:37.670 So I think, this was not only specific to[br]Ruby on Rails, 0:17:37.670,0:17:40.010 any web framework, anything that is related[br]to web. 0:17:40.010,0:17:44.220 I mean, there were other teams who were working[br]on JavaScript. 0:17:44.220,0:17:49.330 So if she's interesting, ask her to have some[br]sample codes, 0:17:49.330,0:17:52.010 so that'll help her to get into. 0:17:52.010,0:17:56.210 And compared to Google Summer of Code and[br]Ruby Summer of Code, 0:17:56.210,0:17:57.340 this wasn't so competitive. 0:17:57.340,0:18:01.030 I mean, I think it was the first time. 0:18:01.030,0:18:02.430 S.J.: Yeah, it was. 0:18:02.430,0:18:04.200 P.S.: And only a few of them knew it. 0:18:04.200,0:18:06.030 So it should be easy to get into it. 0:18:12.720,0:18:16.020 V.O.: We [br]do have time for more questions. 0:18:20.760,0:18:23.880 QUERENT: I don't actually have a question, 0:18:23.910,0:18:28.110 but I have a piece of advice. In India, right[br]now, 0:18:28.110,0:18:33.830 we have a good amount of Ruby developers male 0:18:33.830,0:18:40.270 to which we look forward and we plan to be[br]more helpful, 0:18:40.270,0:18:44.770 we get some inspiration from them, but there's[br]no female developers, 0:18:44.770,0:18:48.270 as such, where the new community which is[br]coming in to, 0:18:48.270,0:18:53.290 they look forward to any female that can inspire[br]them. 0:18:53.290,0:19:00.290 So I advise you guys to equally be active[br]in social media, 0:19:01.280,0:19:07.220 so that it creates a word out of it, and it[br]takes that, 0:19:07.220,0:19:09.960 it takes forward from there, onwards. 0:19:09.960,0:19:11.930 P.S.: OK. 0:19:11.930,0:19:18.930 QUERANT: I like your introduction, but then,[br]you know, 0:19:19.420,0:19:22.900 I like the confidence with which you guys[br]are standing there, 0:19:22.900,0:19:24.600 not that you're girls or guys standing there, 0:19:24.600,0:19:25.620 but even two guys standing there, 0:19:25.620,0:19:27.370 I would have been really happy to see two[br]people 0:19:27.370,0:19:29.280 come up there and do the things they're doing. 0:19:29.280,0:19:32.410 I think there enough female developers that[br]are kicking ass, 0:19:32.410,0:19:37.780 I think, you don't have to look beyond a girl[br]who can kick ass. 0:19:37.780,0:19:41.120 But, good job because, it's just the confidence, 0:19:41.120,0:19:45.120 keep the confidence going, and all the rest. 0:19:45.120,0:19:51.790 P.S.: OK, thank you. 0:19:51.790,0:19:58.460 He has a question. 0:19:58.460,0:20:01.250 QUERANT: So a lot of people, including myself, 0:20:01.250,0:20:02.780 have a issue with confidence? 0:20:02.780,0:20:06.410 But did you did mention that you went through[br]a period of feeling timid. 0:20:06.410,0:20:09.870 And I've actually worked with some juniors[br]as well, 0:20:09.870,0:20:11.300 and I do see that as a problem. 0:20:11.300,0:20:14.240 Could you explain a little bit more of how 0:20:14.240,0:20:17.810 personally you can overcome your timidness, 0:20:17.810,0:20:21.270 or any stress level of learning so many things? 0:20:21.270,0:20:25.990 S.J.: So I should thank my parents, I think, 0:20:25.990,0:20:32.990 for introducing me into a school which was[br]a kind of a great development... 0:20:33.530,0:20:39.790 so, should I name my school? It is Sophia[br]Senior secondary school from Madrid, 0:20:39.790,0:20:43.320 and I'm really thankful to my teachers, you[br]know, 0:20:43.320,0:20:50.320 their encouragement and their support, so[br]I am here today. 0:20:51.340,0:20:55.360 QUERANT: Hello. My question is how did you[br]come across Rails Girls 0:20:55.360,0:20:58.740 in the first place? As in how did you know[br]it was there? 0:20:58.740,0:21:02.230 P.S.: OK, so, that's a nice question. 0:21:02.230,0:21:06.720 I was a part of an organization called Free[br]Software ?? 0:21:06.720,0:21:09.280 So they help students to get into Open Source[br]pro- 0:21:09.280,0:21:12.810 I mean, you know, introduce them to Open Source[br]and all that. 0:21:12.810,0:21:15.160 So I subscribed to their mailing list 0:21:15.160,0:21:17.880 and I happened to see this and I thought OK, 0:21:17.880,0:21:21.000 let me try, and then started coding in Ruby 0:21:21.000,0:21:24.590 and all that, and then applied for Rails Girls[br]Summer of Code. 0:21:24.590,0:21:26.710 And it's the same thing with her, even she[br]came, 0:21:26.710,0:21:31.580 she found out about Rails Girls Summer of[br]Code through some mailing list. 0:21:31.580,0:21:34.910 S.J.: In my career of engineering I, 0:21:34.910,0:21:38.370 actually I was searching for some new language[br]to learn about, 0:21:38.370,0:21:43.740 so I asked one coach, ??, he told me to start[br]learning Ruby. 0:21:43.740,0:21:49.350 So I found it easy to understand at first.[br]But though, 0:21:49.350,0:21:52.740 when you go in depth of Ruby, it is more complicated. 0:21:52.740,0:21:57.100 So it requires a lot of practice in implementation. 0:21:57.100,0:22:04.100 QUERANT: K, I've got one question for you. 0:22:06.120,0:22:08.870 So if you had one message to pass on to other[br]women in technology 0:22:08.870,0:22:13.620 or other girls who are looking to get into[br]technology, what would that be? 0:22:13.620,0:22:20.620 S.J.: That would be that if you want to apply[br]for any program, 0:22:20.850,0:22:23.530 just go for it, don't think that 0:22:23.530,0:22:25.620 you don't have that much of technical background, 0:22:25.620,0:22:29.450 or you don't know these things, that you can't[br]apply. 0:22:29.450,0:22:34.610 So it's better to just push yourself and you'll[br]eventually learn. 0:22:34.610,0:22:38.750 P.S.: And also like just look for any of these[br]women-centric programs. 0:22:38.750,0:22:44.240 You know they pay you money. 0:22:44.240,0:22:51.240 QUERANT: By the way there's also the normal[br]?? program. 0:22:52.980,0:22:57.350 P.S.: List of women-centric programs would[br]be, 0:22:57.350,0:22:59.100 of course the Google Summer of Code is there, 0:22:59.100,0:23:03.150 the twenty-four students, and there's ?? outreach program for[br]women and uh, 0:23:03.150,0:23:05.960 Ruby Summer of Code, and Rails Girls Summer[br]of Code. 0:23:05.960,0:23:07.920 S.J.: And the Next Foundation. 0:23:07.920,0:23:14.920 P.S.: Yeah, the Next Foundation. Oh, yeah[br]?? is also there. 0:23:18.080,0:23:25.080 Thank you all.