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Dialogue: 0,0:00:09.68,0:00:12.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,China, at the beginning of this century
Dialogue: 0,0:00:13.82,0:00:18.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,shot to number one in the world in terms \Nof transplant volumes after the United States.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:19.02,0:00:22.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,10,000 a year, according to\Nthe Government of China figures.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:23.23,0:00:25.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,From where did all these organs come.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:25.74,0:00:28.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Official Chinese explanation was... donations.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:29.42,0:00:32.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But China did not then\Nhave an organ donation system.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:33.58,0:00:38.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In 2006, the Government of\NChina shifted... its explanation
Dialogue: 0,0:00:38.33,0:00:40.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and said that the organs were coming...
Dialogue: 0,0:00:40.19,0:00:43.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,mostly from prisoners sentenced\Nto death and then executed.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:44.62,0:00:49.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, how many prisoners were there in China\Nbeing sentenced to death and then executed?
Dialogue: 0,0:00:49.56,0:00:52.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The Government of China would not say.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:53.22,0:00:55.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Chinese hospitals websites...
Dialogue: 0,0:00:56.01,0:00:59.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,advertised short waiting times for transplant tourists.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:00.36,0:01:06.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Transplant tourism patients going into China\Nwhom we interviewed after the transplantation
Dialogue: 0,0:01:06.17,0:01:09.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,told us that they can choose\Ntheir timing for transplants.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:09.92,0:01:12.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That was true even for vital organs:
Dialogue: 0,0:01:12.54,0:01:14.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Heart, liver, and lung.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:15.62,0:01:17.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Everywhere else in the world,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:17.09,0:01:19.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,patients waited months and years for organs.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:20.26,0:01:24.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In China, hospitals and prisons\Nwaited for the arrival of patients
Dialogue: 0,0:01:24.44,0:01:27.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so that prisoners can be killed for their organs.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:28.87,0:01:33.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now, not every prisoner is available as\Na source of organs for every patient.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:34.15,0:01:37.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Transplants require blood type compatibility
Dialogue: 0,0:01:37.50,0:01:40.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and ideally even tissue type compatibility.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:41.31,0:01:43.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Organs of donors have to be at least...
Dialogue: 0,0:01:43.66,0:01:47.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,roughly the same size as the\Norgans that are being replaced.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:48.44,0:01:54.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's a high rate of hepatitis B in\Nthe Chinese criminal prison population,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:54.43,0:01:56.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the order of 60%.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:57.12,0:02:00.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That makes organs of many prisoners\Nsentenced to death and then executed
Dialogue: 0,0:02:00.79,0:02:02.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,unusable for transplants.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:04.30,0:02:08.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,China at that time did not have\Nan organ distribution system.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:08.26,0:02:10.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That meant that organs were sourced locally,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:11.21,0:02:15.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from prisons in the neighborhood\Nof the hospitals that do transplants.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:15.72,0:02:20.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Chinese law requires persons\Nsentenced to death to be executed
Dialogue: 0,0:02:20.17,0:02:22.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,within seven days of sentence.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:22.55,0:02:26.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That meant there was no pool\Nof prisoners sentenced to death
Dialogue: 0,0:02:26.09,0:02:30.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and waiting for patients \Nto arrive to be executed.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:31.71,0:02:34.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Put these factors together in our estimate is that
Dialogue: 0,0:02:34.19,0:02:39.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,China... in order to get 10,000\Norgans for transplants a year,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:39.96,0:02:45.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,would have had to be executing in the order of\N100,000 prisoners sentenced to death every year.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:46.38,0:02:48.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That is an implausible figure,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:48.32,0:02:53.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,out by more... than a factor of ten than\Neven the wildest death penalty estimates.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:55.03,0:02:57.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Non-governmental organizations estimated that...
Dialogue: 0,0:02:57.70,0:03:01.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,China, at its height, was \Nexecuting maybe 5,000 a year
Dialogue: 0,0:03:01.93,0:03:05.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is already... way more than any other country.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:06.32,0:03:09.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Over time, death penalty volume decreased.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:09.66,0:03:14.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But transplant volumes with minor variations\Nremained... constant or even increased.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:16.01,0:03:18.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, from where were all the organs coming?
Dialogue: 0,0:03:19.40,0:03:21.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Donations were not the answer.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:21.63,0:03:24.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Executed criminals were not the answer.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:24.61,0:03:26.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What was the answer?
Dialogue: 0,0:03:26.75,0:03:28.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Let's step back.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:30.24,0:03:32.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Let me begin with a... confession.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:32.61,0:03:36.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,As a student in Paris in the late 60s,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:36.27,0:03:39.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was actually an admirer of Mao.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:40.40,0:03:42.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I even read his little red book.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:43.22,0:03:44.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He seemed...
Dialogue: 0,0:03:45.16,0:03:49.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He seemed so... kind swimming in the\Nfamous photo in the Yangtze River.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:50.64,0:03:53.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Many historians today \Nas I'm sure you know
Dialogue: 0,0:03:54.48,0:03:59.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,named Mao one of the worst...\Nmass murderers of the 20th century.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:00.23,0:04:01.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Chang and Halliday,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:05.31,0:04:10.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,noted that "over 70 million \Nperished under Mao's rule".
Dialogue: 0,0:04:12.96,0:04:16.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Many governance problems in\NChina today stem from the fusion
Dialogue: 0,0:04:16.96,0:04:19.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of Mao's totalitarianism
Dialogue: 0,0:04:19.66,0:04:23.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with Deng Xiaoping's\Neconomic reforms after 1978.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:24.58,0:04:26.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But, ladies and gentlemen,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:28.81,0:04:32.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,violence and corruption are\Nthe system today in China.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:34.69,0:04:36.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Every 10 years or so,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:37.08,0:04:40.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the Party starts a persecution of a minority
Dialogue: 0,0:04:41.26,0:04:45.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and mainly I think to instill \Nfear in the general population.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:46.51,0:04:51.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Consider just three of the persecution\Ncampaigns to have gone on since 1950,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:53.97,0:04:58.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the... so-called Great Leap Forward,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:58.69,0:05:02.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or an estimated 40 million \Npeople starve to death.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:05.94,0:05:11.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The Cultural Revolution which\Nyou all know I'm sure 1966 to 1976,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:11.75,0:05:14.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,perhaps another 2 million killed.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:17.26,0:05:20.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The Tiananmen Square massacre of 1989,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:23.03,0:05:26.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,one of my favorite photographs of all time
Dialogue: 0,0:05:26.87,0:05:31.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where soldiers killed thousands of people\Nwho are seeking openness and democracy.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:33.47,0:05:35.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So what if David and I told you that...
Dialogue: 0,0:05:35.72,0:05:40.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,hundreds of thousands of innocent people\Nhave input into slave labor camps across China.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:41.86,0:05:44.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They are not only making goods for export
Dialogue: 0,0:05:45.62,0:05:47.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but they're also tortured,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:47.68,0:05:48.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,blood tested,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:49.30,0:05:52.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the unlucky ones are\Nkilled on demand for their organs,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:52.78,0:05:53.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,harvested...
Dialogue: 0,0:05:54.24,0:05:55.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for profit!
Dialogue: 0,0:05:58.23,0:06:00.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So how two of us get involved in this?
Dialogue: 0,0:06:01.08,0:06:05.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,About ten years ago, we were\Ninvited by a volunteer coalition
Dialogue: 0,0:06:06.86,0:06:11.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to investigate allegations of\Norgan harvesting in China.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:12.12,0:06:15.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have been a Secretary of\NState for Asia-Pacific for Canada
Dialogue: 0,0:06:15.72,0:06:19.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and David Matas have had a\Nlifetime of working on human rights
Dialogue: 0,0:06:19.09,0:06:22.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and also trying to find lessons of the Holocaust.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:22.29,0:06:27.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So we agreed on a volunteer independent\Nbasis to look into these allegations.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:28.07,0:06:29.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What follows...
Dialogue: 0,0:06:29.89,0:06:34.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the conclusion of our investigator\Nof reform our report is so disturbing
Dialogue: 0,0:06:34.67,0:06:36.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we have called what's happening...
Dialogue: 0,0:06:36.42,0:06:39.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a new form of evil on the planet!
Dialogue: 0,0:06:41.08,0:06:42.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That was our conclusion
Dialogue: 0,0:06:42.53,0:06:44.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that organs came from prisoners allright.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:45.14,0:06:49.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But they were not only criminal prisoners\Nsentenced to death and then executed,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:49.55,0:06:51.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they were mostly prisoners of conscience,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:51.53,0:06:55.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,primarily practitioners of the\Nspiritually based set of exercises,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:55.35,0:06:56.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Falun Gong.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:56.73,0:06:59.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A Chinese equivalent of yoga.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:00.65,0:07:03.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Before the Communist repression of this practice,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:03.91,0:07:09.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the number of Falun Gong practitioners\Nwas in the order of 70 to 100 million people,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:09.32,0:07:11.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,according to government of China figures.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:13.07,0:07:16.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They had been detained through all\NChina in the hundreds of thousands
Dialogue: 0,0:07:16.79,0:07:20.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,after the Party decided to repress the practice
Dialogue: 0,0:07:20.52,0:07:23.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,out of jealousy over the popularity of Falun Gong
Dialogue: 0,0:07:23.57,0:07:28.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and fear by the Party for its ideological supremacy.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:29.46,0:07:32.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Falun Gong practitioners who recanted or released
Dialogue: 0,0:07:32.82,0:07:34.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and some of those got out of China.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:35.12,0:07:37.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We interviewed them around the world
Dialogue: 0,0:07:37.16,0:07:40.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and found out that all Falun Gong detainees
Dialogue: 0,0:07:40.65,0:07:44.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,were systematically blood tested and organ examined.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:45.01,0:07:49.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This was not done for their health since\Nthey were being tortured to recant
Dialogue: 0,0:07:49.74,0:07:52.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but it is necessary for transplants
Dialogue: 0,0:07:52.00,0:07:56.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because of the need for blood type\Nand ideally tissue type compatibility.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:57.64,0:08:00.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We had investigators calling into hospitals,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:00.49,0:08:03.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,pretending to be relatives of\Npatients who needed transplants,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:04.15,0:08:09.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and asking the hospital if they had all\Norgans of Falun Gong practitioners for sale.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:10.58,0:08:14.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Our callers claim to want these organs\Nbecause the organs were healthy,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:15.14,0:08:17.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,healthy because of the Falun Gong exercises.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:18.89,0:08:21.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Through out China, we got\Ndoctors and hospitals saying...
Dialogue: 0,0:08:21.92,0:08:25.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Yes, we do have organs of\NFalun Gong practitioners for sale."
Dialogue: 0,0:08:25.90,0:08:27.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Come on down.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:27.76,0:08:29.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,These calls have been taped,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:29.32,0:08:31.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,translated and transcribed.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:32.52,0:08:35.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Although the practice of\NFalun Gong is totally innocent,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:35.75,0:08:39.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the propaganda the Party's\Nspewed out against practitioners,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:40.08,0:08:44.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,demonized, depersonalized\Nand dehumanized this population.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:44.69,0:08:48.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Their jailers thought nothing\Nof killing them arbitrarily
Dialogue: 0,0:08:48.90,0:08:51.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because they did not consider them human.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:51.82,0:08:56.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This population provides an explanation\Nfor the numbers of transplants
Dialogue: 0,0:08:56.10,0:08:59.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that prisoners sentenced to\Ndeath and executed could not.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:01.32,0:09:04.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When the persecution of Falun Gong began,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:04.82,0:09:08.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the former head of the Party Jiang Zemin vowed
Dialogue: 0,0:09:09.33,0:09:12.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Ruin... their reputation,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:12.32,0:09:14.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,bankrupt them financially,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:14.84,0:09:16.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and destroy them physically."
Dialogue: 0,0:09:18.84,0:09:20.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Falun Gong practitioners...
Dialogue: 0,0:09:20.39,0:09:24.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in China come from all walks of life,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:24.37,0:09:27.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from scientists, to soldiers, to Party officials
Dialogue: 0,0:09:28.75,0:09:31.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is a grassroots spiritual movement
Dialogue: 0,0:09:31.03,0:09:34.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as we mentioned that grew\Nexponentially in the 1990s.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:35.60,0:09:38.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, let's put some faces to the faceless.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:38.81,0:09:40.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We'd like to show you a short excerpt
Dialogue: 0,0:09:40.76,0:09:43.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from the award-winning film "Free China",
Dialogue: 0,0:09:44.02,0:09:48.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,an Oscar contender for the \N2014 for the best documentary
Dialogue: 0,0:09:49.34,0:09:53.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that featured two... inspirational \Nsurvivors of the persecution.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:54.61,0:09:57.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The main subject of the film, Jennifer
Dialogue: 0,0:09:58.03,0:09:59.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a Falun Gong practitioner.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:00.70,0:10:01.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She's a mother,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:02.27,0:10:06.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,she has a Master's degree in Science and \Nshe's a former Communist Party member.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:07.51,0:10:09.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,After her escape from China,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:09.30,0:10:13.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,she became a best-selling author \Nin writing about her experiences.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:14.39,0:10:17.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Not only was she jailed and tortured,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:17.80,0:10:20.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in her testimony, she recounted \Nhow she was blood tested
Dialogue: 0,0:10:21.63,0:10:22.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,during her detention.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:23.45,0:10:27.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Luckily for her perhaps, \Nshe also had hepatitis
Dialogue: 0,0:10:27.34,0:10:32.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,during the birth of a child and this perhaps \Nsaved her from being a so-called organ donor.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:33.50,0:10:35.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The second person you'll see...
Dialogue: 0,0:10:35.95,0:10:38.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is a Chinese - American, Dr. Charles Lee
Dialogue: 0,0:10:39.24,0:10:42.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who was jailed for three years \Nafter he went back to China
Dialogue: 0,0:10:42.13,0:10:44.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to try to explain the truth \Nof what was happening.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:46.06,0:10:50.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He was... sentenced without \Nanything approaching a fair trial
Dialogue: 0,0:10:54.97,0:10:56.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and send to a slave labour camp.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:56.57,0:10:57.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Let's take a look.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:58.07,0:11:00.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Every time they apply the baton on me,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:00.76,0:11:02.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I just couldn't help shaking
Dialogue: 0,0:11:03.67,0:11:05.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the anticipating
Dialogue: 0,0:11:05.88,0:11:08.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the next round of shocks
Dialogue: 0,0:11:08.46,0:11:14.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just... was too terrible to... describe.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:14.46,0:11:16.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is exactly what I was forced to make
Dialogue: 0,0:11:16.42,0:11:17.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in Nanjing prison.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:18.35,0:11:19.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Homer Simpson slippers.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:20.25,0:11:21.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I saw this label
Dialogue: 0,0:11:22.85,0:11:24.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,inside the prison when I was making it.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:24.69,0:11:27.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"SG Footwear, Hackensack, New Jersey."
Dialogue: 0,0:11:27.48,0:11:28.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When I was in America
Dialogue: 0,0:11:28.76,0:11:31.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I watched Homer Simpson shows,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:31.24,0:11:32.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know, pretty often
Dialogue: 0,0:11:33.00,0:11:34.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,during the 90s.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:34.14,0:11:35.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, very funny.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:35.23,0:11:36.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But when I was
Dialogue: 0,0:11:36.54,0:11:38.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,forced to make these shoes
Dialogue: 0,0:11:38.86,0:11:39.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in prison,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:40.24,0:11:41.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you don't feel it's funny at all.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:42.28,0:11:43.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The Government of China...
Dialogue: 0,0:11:43.94,0:11:45.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was not prepared to acknowledge
Dialogue: 0,0:11:45.94,0:11:49.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that their organs for transplants were \Ncoming from prisoners of conscience.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:50.70,0:11:54.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But their acknowledgement that the \Norgans were coming from prisoners
Dialogue: 0,0:11:54.05,0:11:57.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sentenced to death and executed was bad enough.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:58.14,0:12:00.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That admission met with global revulsion.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:00.82,0:12:03.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The Chinese transplant profession was ostracized
Dialogue: 0,0:12:04.12,0:12:08.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on different occasions denied training abroad,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:08.17,0:12:10.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,publication of papers exchanges,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:10.67,0:12:15.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and presentation platform at international \Ncongresses of their colleagues.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:16.33,0:12:19.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Chinese health officials reacted by saying that,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:19.50,0:12:21.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as January this year,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:21.32,0:12:25.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they had ceased sourcing organs from \Nprisoners and renounce sourcing organs
Dialogue: 0,0:12:26.23,0:12:27.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,entirely from donors.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:28.52,0:12:33.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,China created both an organ donor registry \Nand an organ donor distribution system.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:34.23,0:12:38.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The government enacted a policy \Ngiving priority to local patients
Dialogue: 0,0:12:38.45,0:12:42.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and a law forbidding sourcing \Nof organs without consent.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:44.67,0:12:48.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Are these changes... \Nreal or just pretense?
Dialogue: 0,0:12:49.43,0:12:51.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The answer is a bit of both.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:52.36,0:12:54.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Officials in China have said that,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:54.69,0:12:57.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,prisoners can donate organs still.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:58.78,0:13:02.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If that is so then organ sourcing \Nfrom prisoners continues.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:03.61,0:13:08.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There has been no abatement in the \Ndemonization of persecution of Falun Gong.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:08.72,0:13:10.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Those remain in full force
Dialogue: 0,0:13:11.29,0:13:14.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as well even blood testing \Nof Falun Gong practitioners
Dialogue: 0,0:13:14.32,0:13:15.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,continues.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:16.48,0:13:22.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Official statements do not consistently say \Norgans sourcing from... prisoners has ended.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:22.67,0:13:24.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Some say only that it will end
Dialogue: 0,0:13:24.89,0:13:29.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that China is now in a \Ntransition period leading to its ending.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:31.53,0:13:34.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There are in reality two systems running in China now.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:34.22,0:13:36.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A donation system and \Na non donation system.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:37.33,0:13:40.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Some hospitals still carry on as they always did,
Dialogue: 0,0:13:40.76,0:13:43.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,albeit less blatantly than before.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:45.13,0:13:47.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The question we asked to China remains,
Dialogue: 0,0:13:47.71,0:13:50.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"From where do you get your organs for transplants?"
Dialogue: 0,0:13:51.61,0:13:54.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Chinese officials say now that all is good.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:54.77,0:13:58.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But, the records are not \Nopen to independent scrutiny.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:59.77,0:14:02.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,International standards do not require
Dialogue: 0,0:14:02.34,0:14:06.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that we establish that China is doing \Nsomething wrong in organ sources.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:06.84,0:14:11.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,International standards rather \Nimpose a duty on China
Dialogue: 0,0:14:11.03,0:14:13.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to explain where it gets \Nits organs for transplants.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:15.07,0:14:21.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That duty is not met just by bold assertions by \NChinese authorities that everything is alright.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:22.04,0:14:24.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is met by... transparency,
Dialogue: 0,0:14:24.58,0:14:27.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,accountability and openness to scrutiny.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:28.31,0:14:29.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We say to China,
Dialogue: 0,0:14:30.26,0:14:31.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,don't just tell us...
Dialogue: 0,0:14:31.55,0:14:34.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where you get your organs for transplants.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:34.53,0:14:35.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Show us!
Dialogue: 0,0:14:37.66,0:14:39.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Over the past ten years,
Dialogue: 0,0:14:39.50,0:14:41.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the evidence... has become overwhelming.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:41.84,0:14:45.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We have... 32 kinds of evidence \Nthat's happening in China.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:47.04,0:14:48.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A surgeon, Enver Tohti
Dialogue: 0,0:14:49.58,0:14:52.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,has testified that he was \Nforced to remove the organs
Dialogue: 0,0:14:52.48,0:14:54.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from a live Uyghur,
Dialogue: 0,0:14:54.52,0:14:56.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,political prisoner in the mid-90s.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:58.94,0:15:01.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Organ pillaging most likely then moved to the...
Dialogue: 0,0:15:02.80,0:15:03.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,...the Tibetans,
Dialogue: 0,0:15:03.74,0:15:04.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then to the Uyghurs,
Dialogue: 0,0:15:04.87,0:15:06.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and finally... to the House Christians,
Dialogue: 0,0:15:06.63,0:15:09.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then massively to the \NFalun Gong community.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:10.36,0:15:12.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In 2013,
Dialogue: 0,0:15:12.70,0:15:14.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,EU Parliament, to its credit,
Dialogue: 0,0:15:15.08,0:15:16.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,passed a resolution where...
Dialogue: 0,0:15:17.20,0:15:22.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"expresses its deep concern over \Nthe persistent and credible reports
Dialogue: 0,0:15:22.39,0:15:27.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of systematic, state-sanctioned organ harvesting \Nfrom large numbers of Falun Gong practitioners"
Dialogue: 0,0:15:29.22,0:15:30.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In...
Dialogue: 0,0:15:31.58,0:15:33.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,2014,
Dialogue: 0,0:15:33.98,0:15:35.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Ethan Gutmann published a book:
Dialogue: 0,0:15:35.80,0:15:36.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The Slaughter,
Dialogue: 0,0:15:37.58,0:15:39.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where he interviewed over a hundred people
Dialogue: 0,0:15:39.75,0:15:42.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and collected new evidence over eight years.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:43.99,0:15:46.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He estimates that at any given time,
Dialogue: 0,0:15:46.24,0:15:52.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,between 450,000 to a million Falun Gong \Npractitioners are languishing in prisons
Dialogue: 0,0:15:52.29,0:15:53.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and slave labor camps.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:54.95,0:16:00.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He concludes, that approximately \N65,000 Falun Gong practitioners
Dialogue: 0,0:16:00.64,0:16:02.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and 2,000 to 4,000 Uyghurs,
Dialogue: 0,0:16:03.16,0:16:05.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Tibetans and Christians
Dialogue: 0,0:16:05.31,0:16:08.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,were killed for their organs \Nin the 2000 to 2008 period.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:10.09,0:16:12.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,His estimates regarding Falun Gong practitioners
Dialogue: 0,0:16:12.84,0:16:14.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are similar to the ones that...
Dialogue: 0,0:16:14.36,0:16:17.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,David Matas and I have come up, calculated.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:18.65,0:16:20.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When you follow the money,
Dialogue: 0,0:16:21.35,0:16:24.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you partly began to understand why this is happening.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:25.09,0:16:27.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Hospitals as it shows,
Dialogue: 0,0:16:27.70,0:16:31.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,can... get 62,000 for kidneys,
Dialogue: 0,0:16:32.12,0:16:35.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and heart too are worth up to 160,000.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:35.44,0:16:38.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We're talking about... billions of dollars in profits!
Dialogue: 0,0:16:39.89,0:16:44.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So all of mainstream media has paid\Nminimal attention to these atrocities.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:44.99,0:16:46.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The truth is gradually getting out.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:47.65,0:16:49.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We want to show you in this final clip.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:50.12,0:16:52.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's an excerpt from the \Ndocumentary "Human Harvest",
Dialogue: 0,0:16:53.27,0:16:56.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which won the prestigious \NPeabody Award earlier this year.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:58.73,0:17:00.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The least the EU can do to stop it
Dialogue: 0,0:17:01.30,0:17:02.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is to condemn publicly
Dialogue: 0,0:17:02.71,0:17:05.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,organ transplantation abuses in China,
Dialogue: 0,0:17:05.04,0:17:07.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and to inform those European citizens
Dialogue: 0,0:17:07.44,0:17:10.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who travel to China for organ transplants.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:10.24,0:17:14.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is a crime against humanity.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:15.60,0:17:19.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We should do our best... to identify
Dialogue: 0,0:17:19.18,0:17:23.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,those specific individuals who are engaged in this.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:23.51,0:17:25.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and put them on the list
Dialogue: 0,0:17:25.57,0:17:29.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of people who deserve to be brought to justice.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:29.26,0:17:32.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,America must stand with the Falun Gong,
Dialogue: 0,0:17:32.00,0:17:34.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and indeed with all of the oppressed.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:34.24,0:17:37.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Beijing must release Falun Gong practitioners
Dialogue: 0,0:17:37.76,0:17:41.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and other prisoners of conscience immediately.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:41.43,0:17:43.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They theme is hidden treasures.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:44.87,0:17:47.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think that the Hidden Treasure in all of us...
Dialogue: 0,0:17:47.77,0:17:50.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is the courage to overcome our fears
Dialogue: 0,0:17:50.59,0:17:53.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to stand for what's right \Nno matter what the cost.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:55.06,0:17:57.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,David and I are just two Davids...
Dialogue: 0,0:17:57.78,0:18:00.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the Goliath that we face \Nas you know is so huge.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:00.91,0:18:02.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is indeed a daunting challenge.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:03.30,0:18:04.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is where we need your help.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:06.59,0:18:09.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There are at least three \Nthings that all of you can do.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:10.14,0:18:14.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,First, simply Google "organ harvesting in China".
Dialogue: 0,0:18:16.06,0:18:18.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Second, tell friends which you've learned.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:20.67,0:18:25.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Third, please share this information \Non Facebook and other social media.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:26.41,0:18:28.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Today's Internet connected world,
Dialogue: 0,0:18:29.01,0:18:31.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I believe the key is awareness...
Dialogue: 0,0:18:32.00,0:18:34.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and fundamentally, we all deserve to be free,
Dialogue: 0,0:18:34.80,0:18:36.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we all are truly connected.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:37.59,0:18:41.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If we can reach millions to the \Npower of community such as Ted,
Dialogue: 0,0:18:42.81,0:18:44.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we can hopefully inspire enough people...
Dialogue: 0,0:18:45.44,0:18:50.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to take action to save lives and to \Nstop this trafficking in human organs
Dialogue: 0,0:18:52.15,0:18:55.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and which of course is also \Na crime against humanity.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:56.56,0:18:57.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thank you!