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Dialogue: 0,0:00:08.27,0:00:13.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Sound of Welding)
Dialogue: 0,0:00:13.07,0:00:14.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,JUDY PFAFF: I got my first welder in Maine,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:15.64,0:00:18.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I made some structures \Nand stuff and I thought oh,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:18.12,0:00:19.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have to learn how to weld now.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:20.64,0:00:22.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I never wanted to be a sculptor.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:23.28,0:00:24.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My background is painting.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:24.32,0:00:25.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was a painter.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:25.60,0:00:26.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,All my friends are painters.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:27.52,0:00:30.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Elizabeth Murray, you know great, great painters.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:32.88,0:00:36.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I always thought that welders \Nwere not only guys that drank beer,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:37.60,0:00:39.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and clanked around with rusty stuff,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:39.76,0:00:43.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I am now clanking around with \Nrusty stuff, drinking beer.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:47.24,0:00:51.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But this first welder I got was actually for \Nthin sheet metal and it was for auto body guys.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:51.68,0:00:57.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was like a sweet welder, not \Nstick welding, which is pretty rough.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:57.84,0:01:01.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This would be the equivalent \Nof hot glue gun or sewing.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:06.01,0:01:06.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,MAN: That’s Mel
Dialogue: 0,0:01:06.92,0:01:08.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,PFAFF: I have to talk about Mel.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:09.20,0:01:12.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He moves earth around. I didn’t realize it.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:12.56,0:01:14.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I only deal with little things.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:14.20,0:01:17.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He deals with like big things, you know?
Dialogue: 0,0:01:17.52,0:01:21.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he sees these roots, \Nand he says you want roots?
Dialogue: 0,0:01:21.52,0:01:22.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I got roots.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:24.47,0:01:28.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,PFAFF: So Mel and I go down \Nto the river and we find,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:28.32,0:01:29.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don’t know if you’ve looked at these things,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:30.57,0:01:32.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they’re the best roots I ever saw.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:34.16,0:01:36.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Can you see how rough these things were?
Dialogue: 0,0:01:36.04,0:01:38.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They’re like...these are huge.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:38.36,0:01:40.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Look at the size of that. Look.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:55.20,0:01:58.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,These stumps were broken into four parts \Nbecause we’ve got to get them into the gallery
Dialogue: 0,0:01:58.56,0:02:03.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and up elevators so we’re cutting them \Napart, putting them back together.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:07.07,0:02:08.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,PFAFF: You ready?
Dialogue: 0,0:02:16.87,0:02:19.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,PFAFF: You should-\NMAN: But you can’t really do it when…
Dialogue: 0,0:02:19.10,0:02:21.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,PFAFF: Right...we draw this pattern \Nout and we’re going to take it apart...
Dialogue: 0,0:02:21.96,0:02:25.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,PFAFF: I was born in London. That was 1946.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:25.76,0:02:31.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And came to America when I was \N(SIGH) about twelve and uh,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:31.04,0:02:35.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,did not fit and was quite unruly.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:35.96,0:02:37.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I wasn’t raised by my mother.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:37.60,0:02:39.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I met her when I came to America.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:41.08,0:02:42.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I never have met my father.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:44.96,0:02:46.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was a terrible student.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:47.84,0:02:48.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don’t like to read.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:48.88,0:02:50.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don’t like to do homework.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:50.56,0:02:52.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I could care less. I’m ornery.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:52.68,0:02:53.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don’t like authority.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:53.80,0:02:57.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean there’s a lot of things that \Nwould...made me a lousy student.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:57.60,0:03:00.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The art part...and that was \Nactually where Al came in.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:00.56,0:03:03.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Al Held was my teacher at Yale.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:03.04,0:03:07.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He thought I was visually \Nintelligent, a disaster in other ways.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:07.56,0:03:11.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But he thought there was something in \Nthe way I sort of get it with materials
Dialogue: 0,0:03:11.04,0:03:13.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that would hook me into another kind of education.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:15.96,0:03:18.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Painters I think are made differently.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:18.20,0:03:20.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They can concentrate in different ways.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:20.52,0:03:24.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I found when I was a painter \NI couldn’t stop and until it
Dialogue: 0,0:03:24.76,0:03:27.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was finished another thought didn’t enter.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:27.56,0:03:29.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,With the sculpture, they go on for months.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:29.52,0:03:31.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It tells different kinds of stories.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:31.40,0:03:34.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They’re sort of sequence of moments.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:34.32,0:03:38.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It worked better for the way I \Nam put together and I love stuff
Dialogue: 0,0:03:38.48,0:03:41.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and as you know I love tools.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:45.36,0:03:47.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Last year, everyone I knew died.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:47.76,0:03:52.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My mother, Al, good friends, and uh,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:54.44,0:03:58.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I just thought, this show \NI just want it to be emotional.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:58.40,0:04:02.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I was basing this sort of on images of…
Dialogue: 0,0:04:02.40,0:04:05.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don’t think hell, but darkness and kind of a…
Dialogue: 0,0:04:05.80,0:04:09.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a wilder characteristic than the other stuff.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:11.16,0:04:13.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The show is going to have a lot of light,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:13.16,0:04:17.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and there’s going to be one \Nroom all light, all white.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:17.64,0:04:19.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And another one all black.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:19.68,0:04:22.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Or I think, and these big \Nroots are going to come in,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:22.36,0:04:29.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and so it’s going to be a stack of things that go \Nfrom light to dark or heavy to light or however.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:29.72,0:04:31.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(TORCH FLARES)
Dialogue: 0,0:04:36.16,0:04:40.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have uh, a way of never sort \Nof touching things directly.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:40.56,0:04:43.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It’s sort of funny because I’m very \Nhands-on but in a way that’s not…
Dialogue: 0,0:04:43.44,0:04:44.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not true.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:44.16,0:04:45.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There’s usually a tool.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:46.80,0:04:49.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And finding these burning kits was like…
Dialogue: 0,0:04:49.32,0:04:53.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this is for guys who make duck decoys,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:53.20,0:04:58.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so you get these blades for putting \Nfeathers on or doing details.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:58.04,0:05:02.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It’s all solid burning and \Ndying and going through layers,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:02.44,0:05:06.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so it’s a nice physical way \Nof getting into something.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:10.80,0:05:14.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think I have so much control over things.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:14.40,0:05:18.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I get so involved that having an \Ninstrument between it blunts that a bit.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:23.08,0:05:24.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think the show is going to look like these…
Dialogue: 0,0:05:24.96,0:05:26.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,these drawings and it’s…
Dialogue: 0,0:05:26.20,0:05:30.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you know and that’s sort \Nof ends up actually to be true.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:30.00,0:05:35.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But I think if you see that and see the work \Nyou can see that there’s just a lot of uh,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:35.40,0:05:37.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,imagery that sort of similar in a way.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:37.68,0:05:39.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There’s a lot of flaming going…
Dialogue: 0,0:05:39.12,0:05:46.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there’s a lot of like soot, fire, \Nburning, and a lot of water too.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:47.00,0:05:51.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So the...I think it will be an \Ninteresting set of dynamics.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:52.68,0:05:55.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think some of these drawings \Nactually look quite nice.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:56.72,0:05:57.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Even tame.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:58.56,0:06:01.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Their way of being made is very rough.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:02.96,0:06:05.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What I don’t understand was all this roughness,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:05.16,0:06:08.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that it actually kind of ends up calming down.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:20.16,0:06:22.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We’ve been doing these forms for a while.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:22.36,0:06:24.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They’re based on what’s called a sweep mold.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:24.64,0:06:27.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sweep...s-w-e-e-p mold.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:27.44,0:06:32.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I saw a pattern for it on a WPA \Nmanual for people learning plaster work.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:33.52,0:06:35.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They use what’s called live plaster,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:35.32,0:06:39.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so the plaster is mixed with \Nstuff and then you have a form
Dialogue: 0,0:06:39.04,0:06:44.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and at a certain moment you drag the \Nform over and it takes that perfectly.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:44.84,0:06:49.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For big shapes, you have a circular \Ntrack and you’re walking it,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:49.04,0:06:52.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so it’s just this gigantic sort \Nof performance of walking this…
Dialogue: 0,0:06:52.60,0:06:54.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this plastic blade…
Dialogue: 0,0:06:54.20,0:07:00.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This will be filled with Styrofoam and \Nthen the last part of it is this plaster
Dialogue: 0,0:07:00.20,0:07:03.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that makes it like this \Nmost beautiful turned form.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:03.56,0:07:06.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So what this is going to look like, there are two.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:06.28,0:07:07.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There’s one that goes up this way,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:07.88,0:07:10.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and there’s another one that goes to the top,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:10.00,0:07:13.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so it’ll look like the \Nnegative space of two spheres.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:15.04,0:07:17.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that’s where that kind \Nof two worlds thing coming,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:17.48,0:07:19.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the white and the black, so...I think.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:19.41,0:07:20.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don’t know.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:20.00,0:07:22.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I’m saying this thinking that \Nthat’s exactly what I’m going to do
Dialogue: 0,0:07:22.56,0:07:24.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I always change my mind, so...
Dialogue: 0,0:07:36.87,0:07:38.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ELEVATOR: Second(?) Floor.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:38.87,0:07:40.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,BOB: So if you want to be safe, \Nyou turn the lights off first.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:40.71,0:07:44.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ASSISTANT: (INAUD)
Dialogue: 0,0:07:44.93,0:07:45.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,PFAFF: Is that going to work, Bob?
Dialogue: 0,0:07:45.56,0:07:46.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,BOB: Yeah.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:46.06,0:07:48.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,PFAFF: Do you know what \Nhappened? Was it the wiring or...
Dialogue: 0,0:07:48.12,0:07:50.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,BOB: Oh this? I don’t know. I think, I suspect...
Dialogue: 0,0:07:50.74,0:07:52.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,PFAFF: The ballast?\NBOB: The faulty ballast, yeah.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:52.24,0:07:54.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,PFAFF: That’s the...is that the brand new one?
Dialogue: 0,0:07:54.44,0:07:55.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,BOB: No.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:28.84,0:08:35.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,MAN: Look at that. That’s like \Na drain in my bathtub. Sweet.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:43.54,0:08:47.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,MAN: More, more, more, more, more\N(TALK)
Dialogue: 0,0:09:04.49,0:09:07.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ELEVATOR: Second Floor
Dialogue: 0,0:09:12.97,0:09:17.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,PFAFF: You come off the elevators, and \Nthere’s a pretty big obstacle in front of you,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:17.44,0:09:19.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this kind of double cone.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:20.20,0:09:23.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I assumed one would go to the right.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:23.44,0:09:25.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There’s a kind of natural route.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:27.04,0:09:30.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I always thought that it would \Nbe walked counter-clockwise.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:30.56,0:09:32.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Just because the layout of the gallery.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:41.12,0:09:42.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I received two emails.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:42.96,0:09:47.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They’d just seen the show and both of \Nthem talked about sadness and loss.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:50.04,0:09:54.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I thought wow, I’m glad \Nthat they saw that in that.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:54.12,0:09:55.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because that’s what I thought,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:55.56,0:09:59.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that’s what drove it, that’s what I anticipated.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:02.32,0:10:04.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When we were finishing up the show,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:04.76,0:10:07.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,once we stopped making a lot of mess
Dialogue: 0,0:10:07.06,0:10:13.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and there was a straight view past \Nthe drawing room into a far back room,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:13.32,0:10:15.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I remembered that they \Nhad an Al Held painting,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:15.92,0:10:20.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a black and white, that if it was \Nput up it would just fill that…
Dialogue: 0,0:10:20.92,0:10:23.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that slot through the gallery.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:31.36,0:10:33.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think I’m very romantic.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:33.68,0:10:36.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That’s where these scrims and these structures,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:36.20,0:10:37.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,why they’re around.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:42.04,0:10:43.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think there are these levels,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:43.48,0:10:47.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like the thing that I was \Ngiven was way too much romance,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:47.60,0:10:48.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,way too much emotion,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:48.92,0:10:51.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and not enough of these other things \Nwhich are hard for me to get to.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:51.64,0:10:54.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So the work is to get to the other levels.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:56.24,0:10:58.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,To the silence, to the…
Dialogue: 0,0:10:58.24,0:11:01.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the breath, to a sweeter sense of things.