WEBVTT 00:00:00.987 --> 00:00:08.283 The realization of the Self is a very simple thing in itself 00:00:11.641 --> 00:00:17.244 What it is, in itself, is just simple and natural. 00:00:19.376 --> 00:00:24.114 What it is, is just simple and natural 00:00:25.504 --> 00:00:28.174 And I even wondered if there was a time 00:00:28.174 --> 00:00:30.781 when human beings were just like that, 00:00:30.781 --> 00:00:38.430 just in our natural state, but I don't know that. 00:00:38.430 --> 00:00:43.055 I felt, in those days, I want to share this 00:00:43.055 --> 00:00:46.162 because it is so simple, it's so simple. 00:00:46.162 --> 00:00:49.162 But in my own case, 00:00:49.162 --> 00:00:54.066 it took a little bit of scrubbing as well, to arrive at that. 00:01:02.972 --> 00:01:09.845 This is a kind of paradox, in a way, because it is so simple, 00:01:09.845 --> 00:01:13.401 but where we are coming from is so complex. 00:01:13.401 --> 00:01:17.306 As I said before, The Truth is simple, 00:01:17.306 --> 00:01:20.950 but the seeker of Truth is complex. 00:01:20.950 --> 00:01:25.076 And he has to get over himself. 00:01:25.076 --> 00:01:27.853 He cannot do anything for Truth. 00:01:27.853 --> 00:01:31.383 We cannot do anything for Truth. We cannot help Truth. 00:01:31.383 --> 00:01:37.812 It's total nonsense, arrogance and stupidity to even think of that. 00:01:37.812 --> 00:01:43.239 The basis of the entire universe is that it emanates 00:01:43.239 --> 00:01:47.166 and plays in the space of Truth. 00:01:47.166 --> 00:01:52.825 So no one can do anything for Truth. 00:01:52.825 --> 00:02:00.283 And the fact is that, we are Truth. We are Truth. 00:02:00.283 --> 00:02:02.920 But in order to make a search happen, 00:02:02.920 --> 00:02:06.669 we have to be under the spell of the untrue. 00:02:06.669 --> 00:02:14.026 Otherwise, there is no search. Why would there be any search? 00:02:14.026 --> 00:02:18.514 Just like now, we came to be convinced that we are our name, 00:02:18.514 --> 00:02:25.199 that we are our culture, that we are our race, that we are our gender. 00:02:25.199 --> 00:02:36.359 We believe that, so we don't have to question that. 00:02:36.359 --> 00:02:40.815 We just assume; nobody questions that. 00:02:40.815 --> 00:02:44.705 In the state of the Truth, then it is completely natural. 00:02:44.705 --> 00:02:47.503 You don't have to question that any more. 00:02:47.503 --> 00:02:49.775 But while we have the identity 00:02:49.775 --> 00:02:53.835 or the idea that we are persons and people, 00:02:53.835 --> 00:02:57.126 it is a very complex state of consciousness, 00:02:57.126 --> 00:03:02.335 it's very self-centred, but self-centred in the psychological sense. 00:03:02.335 --> 00:03:06.615 Meaning that, it is a kind of neurosis; a complexity is there. 00:03:06.615 --> 00:03:08.915 And we are not going to be happy. 00:03:08.915 --> 00:03:13.413 There is no one who, not being aware of the pure Self, 00:03:13.413 --> 00:03:17.611 can be in a state of equanimity and unbroken happiness. 00:03:17.611 --> 00:03:21.281 Our lives will be topsy-turvy. We will experience that. 00:03:21.281 --> 00:03:23.809 But for one who is aware of the Truth, 00:03:23.809 --> 00:03:26.569 and aware that they are the Truth, 00:03:26.569 --> 00:03:32.771 then the waves of the mind, the waves of the vital force 00:03:32.771 --> 00:03:36.488 cannot trouble them at all. There is no trouble at all, 00:03:36.488 --> 00:03:39.361 because they are not holding onto the mind, 00:03:39.361 --> 00:03:42.425 they are not holding onto any emotional state, 00:03:42.425 --> 00:03:44.757 they are not holding onto the body. 00:03:44.757 --> 00:03:47.688 Just like how they say the Ganga is flowing, 00:03:47.688 --> 00:03:50.428 but it is also constant. 00:03:50.428 --> 00:03:56.196 The waves are like, maybe, our thoughts. 00:03:56.196 --> 00:04:01.686 The changefulness that occurs and arises in the body is like the waves, 00:04:01.686 --> 00:04:07.940 but the Ganga itself, you can say, is untroubled. 00:04:07.940 --> 00:04:10.334 It is the same thing. 00:04:10.334 --> 00:04:18.288 So we don't need to study for years to realize the Self. 00:04:18.288 --> 00:04:23.529 And yet we do. We don't need to study for years and years. 00:04:23.529 --> 00:04:30.318 What are we studying? What are we practising? 00:04:30.318 --> 00:04:32.653 Sometimes, also, we are practising, 00:04:32.653 --> 00:04:35.981 and we still don't know what we're practising for. 00:04:35.981 --> 00:04:37.983 Sometimes we meditate, 00:04:37.983 --> 00:04:41.313 yet we don't know the aim and object of meditation. 00:04:41.313 --> 00:04:43.846 If we are meditating only to meditate, 00:04:43.846 --> 00:04:47.832 to enjoy a portion of time in a state of non-duality, 00:04:47.832 --> 00:04:49.829 meditation can offer us this. 00:04:49.829 --> 00:04:52.771 But as we have heard people say in satsang, 00:04:52.771 --> 00:04:56.626 'The minute I step away, the minute my meditation is over, 00:04:56.626 --> 00:04:59.763 the chaos of life and of the mind comes again'. 00:04:59.763 --> 00:05:02.697 So that cannot be the permanent state. 00:05:02.697 --> 00:05:07.794 Nothing that we acquire will be the permanent state. 00:05:07.794 --> 00:05:10.661 Only what we discover, 00:05:10.661 --> 00:05:14.621 which is independent of the personal wave, 00:05:14.621 --> 00:05:19.562 only that is stable by itself; nobody can make it stable. 00:05:19.562 --> 00:05:26.360 We can only discover that untouched essence. 00:05:26.360 --> 00:05:32.088 And when 'we' discover 'That', we are That! 00:05:32.088 --> 00:05:34.085 You cannot discover the Self 00:05:34.085 --> 00:05:38.215 and be a discoverer of the Self as a person. 00:05:38.215 --> 00:05:44.747 And this is why I say that the self-inquiry is my 'piranha question', 00:05:44.747 --> 00:05:51.942 because as we are exploring and introspecting this question, 00:05:51.942 --> 00:05:56.004 the questioner and the questioning are being swallowed up 00:05:56.004 --> 00:05:59.206 by the very inquiry itself. 00:06:01.386 --> 00:06:03.726 [music] 00:06:03.726 --> 00:06:11.420 'Nothing that you acquire can be the permanent state ... ' 00:06:13.240 --> 00:06:19.936 ' ... only what you discover.' ~ Mooji ~ 00:06:38.045 --> 00:06:41.110 Spontaneous Satsang under Papaji's Tree 00:06:41.110 --> 00:06:43.112 Rishikesh, India, 2013