1 00:00:01,280 --> 00:00:02,659 [布莱恩·赞尼斯尼克] 我准备好了...... 2 00:00:02,660 --> 00:00:03,640 【镜头后的男人】 你准备好了?好的。 3 00:00:03,640 --> 00:00:04,920 【赞尼斯尼克】 我意思是,如果你想的话,都行。 4 00:00:05,020 --> 00:00:06,920 我在纽约州立大学当老师来着, 5 00:00:06,920 --> 00:00:08,380 就在纽约城外。 6 00:00:08,390 --> 00:00:10,360 有个学生从来不上课。 7 00:00:10,360 --> 00:00:11,100 这没啥。 8 00:00:11,100 --> 00:00:13,220 有一天他在下午上课时间来了, 9 00:00:13,220 --> 00:00:15,340 他说,“我需要你在这张表上签字, 10 00:00:15,349 --> 00:00:18,320 证明你允许我退选你的课。” 11 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:20,150 然后我说, “你一个学期都没来上过课,” 12 00:00:20,150 --> 00:00:22,230 “我不会在最后一天让你退课的。” 13 00:00:22,230 --> 00:00:23,430 “这门课你挂了。” 14 00:00:23,430 --> 00:00:25,210 然后他说, “签字。” 15 00:00:25,210 --> 00:00:26,400 我跟他说, 16 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:27,590 “这又不是你的课。” 17 00:00:27,590 --> 00:00:28,590 “我才是老师。” 18 00:00:28,590 --> 00:00:30,810 当时差不多有20个学生看着吧。 19 00:00:30,810 --> 00:00:32,590 然后他朝我走得更近了。 20 00:00:32,590 --> 00:00:34,860 这时候我不得不站起来, 21 00:00:34,860 --> 00:00:36,550 然后他就用胸撞了我。 22 00:00:36,550 --> 00:00:38,800 把我扔到墙上, 23 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:41,020 说“签了这张该死的表!” 24 00:00:41,020 --> 00:00:42,430 然后他就...... 25 00:00:42,430 --> 00:00:45,469 把我书桌上的东西都扑腾掉了。 26 00:00:45,469 --> 00:00:47,579 他说, “你都不算个真正的老师!” 27 00:00:47,580 --> 00:00:49,060 “你是个艺术老师!” 28 00:00:49,060 --> 00:00:49,860 “你们都逊毙了!” 29 00:00:49,860 --> 00:00:51,120 “艺术逊毙了!” 30 00:00:52,020 --> 00:00:52,820 我让他挂科了。 31 00:00:52,820 --> 00:00:53,560 我让这个学生挂科了。 32 00:00:54,460 --> 00:00:57,300 【”布莱恩·赞尼斯尼克的大轴心“】 33 00:00:58,140 --> 00:01:01,880 我觉得人们可能对在纽约 34 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:03,760 当艺术家这事儿有幻想。 35 00:01:05,580 --> 00:01:08,180 在某种程度上, 我觉得我把这种幻想变成了现实。 36 00:01:10,020 --> 00:01:12,280 我得以每天做作品。 37 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:13,820 得以和很棒的人 38 00:01:13,820 --> 00:01:15,000 以及很棒的机构合作。 39 00:01:15,380 --> 00:01:16,460 但从另一方面来说, 40 00:01:16,460 --> 00:01:18,580 我认为在纽约有份工作 41 00:01:18,590 --> 00:01:20,289 和生活这件事,有时候 42 00:01:20,289 --> 00:01:22,100 并不能完全满足一个人的期待。 43 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:26,939 产出一件作品并 44 00:01:26,939 --> 00:01:28,459 资助这件作品, 45 00:01:28,459 --> 00:01:29,670 靠的真的是这个艺术家。 46 00:01:29,670 --> 00:01:32,719 要成为一个艺术家, 你要投入一切, 47 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:34,680 不去担心钱的事情。 48 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:43,240 我会做那种需要我 收集几千件物品的项目。 49 00:01:43,249 --> 00:01:46,139 我会整理摆放它们, 给它们拍照, 50 00:01:46,140 --> 00:01:47,860 挪动它们, 来搭起一个装置。 51 00:01:49,220 --> 00:01:51,060 我喜欢万物有灵论—— 52 00:01:51,060 --> 00:01:54,619 即一个无生命的物体是有 53 00:01:54,620 --> 00:01:56,600 灵魂或性格的。 54 00:01:57,260 --> 00:01:59,180 我觉得我真得很着迷于 55 00:01:59,180 --> 00:02:00,840 收集这些物品所带来的 56 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:04,640 那种神秘感或冒险一般的刺激。 57 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:10,840 在艺术世界里你很容易 看起来成功了, 58 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:13,380 但实际上一点都没做成。 59 00:02:13,380 --> 00:02:17,040 我是说,你可以有很多 机构的支持, 60 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:20,220 但是你从那里得不到多少钱。 61 00:02:21,640 --> 00:02:24,420 我记得我在一个画廊 办过一个展, 62 00:02:24,420 --> 00:02:26,030 我当时做了一个巨大的装置。 63 00:02:26,030 --> 00:02:27,440 我开始做这些雕塑。 64 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:30,460 有一些嵌有物件的高柱子。 65 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:33,579 如果我卖了它们, 只需要把它们翻个个儿就好, 66 00:02:33,580 --> 00:02:35,480 把它们送到想要它们的人那, 67 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:36,360 给我写张支票, 68 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:37,540 这些该死的柱子就是你的了。 69 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:40,580 我开始搭这些柱子, 70 00:02:40,599 --> 00:02:42,770 这时候制造队的人来见我了, 71 00:02:42,770 --> 00:02:43,980 跟我说,”出了个问题。“ 72 00:02:43,980 --> 00:02:44,820 我说,”啥问题?“ 73 00:02:44,820 --> 00:02:46,180 他们说, ”我们担心你的柱子 74 00:02:46,180 --> 00:02:48,240 会倒下 75 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:49,560 砸死人。” 76 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:52,940 我说, “好吧,怎么解决这个问题?” 77 00:02:52,940 --> 00:02:53,620 他们说, 78 00:02:53,620 --> 00:02:57,000 “我们得把底座 闩在水泥地里。” 79 00:02:57,000 --> 00:02:59,700 我说,“展览完事以后 我们怎么把这些闩子弄出来?” 80 00:02:59,700 --> 00:03:00,840 他们说, “哦,我们就直接毁了它。” 81 00:03:01,640 --> 00:03:02,520 我说, 82 00:03:02,530 --> 00:03:05,569 “我的天,我能卖的柱子就这下场。” 83 00:03:05,569 --> 00:03:07,400 “我得毁了它们。” 84 00:03:08,640 --> 00:03:12,260 85 00:03:12,260 --> 00:03:14,579 86 00:03:14,580 --> 00:03:15,680 87 00:03:20,020 --> 00:03:22,040 88 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:24,780 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