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這是一件重大的事

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這令人感到驚艷

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我不得不一直提醒自己
這都不是真實的

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我們正在做的是一部
有歷史意義的電影

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我的電影生涯有百分之九十都在這了

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就像這樣

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來這裏做一部以威廉斯堡為背景的表演

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在柏林做這件事
就好在我的腦海裡表演

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一系列的意第緒語
對我來說，是一件很棒的事

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將要處理一種沒人理解的語言

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我是指，我們正在處理的是
沒人能理解的服裝和儀式

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但本質上的事卻是普遍能理解的

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這是一個非常美麗且獨特的故事

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故事像是描繪了兩個不同的世界

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我不認為這是個關於上帝存在與否或是類似宗教的故事

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更像是一個...勇敢為自己發聲的故事

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很多人都像我一樣
從來都沒有這樣的機會

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我們從來沒有在大眾文化的故事中

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看到自己的影子

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所以我們真的不知道
該如何去創造自己的故事

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我想這是有史以來
第一個真實描繪

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哈希德派的節目

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他們是真實存在的人
他們的經歷也是非常普遍的

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你可以很容易地產生連結

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當大家看到作品的時候
會有人像我一樣

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看到的是這個女孩子
過著跟她一模一樣的生活

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而且她還有勇氣去追逐夢想

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也許自己也可以做到

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當我遇到Ann和Alexa的時候
我們就成了朋友

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我意識到，如果真的有人要去掌握

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這個故事真正的意義

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並真正的去執行

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且對文化產生正面的影響

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那就是這些女人了

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在我遇見Deborah之後，我讀了她的書

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我認為非常的精彩

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我一口氣把這本書看完

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接著，她說：

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「為什麼你不把我的書做成電視劇呢？」

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我和Anna想要一起做一部戲已經一段時間了

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我們討論了很多主題

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討論了很多關於在德國生活的猶太人

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對我來說，這是一個關於年輕女性

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尋找自我的故事

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並且在這個世界裡尋找她的群體

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Esther是一個19歲的少女

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他在布魯克林的威廉斯堡出生長大

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這裡有一個族群叫做薩圖馬雷

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- 小艾，別忘了，讓他先開口。

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她生長在一個非常虔誠的社區

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並且，把自己從一段不幸福的指定婚姻裡解放出來

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然後逃到了柏林

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她的故事非常獨特且浪漫

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我們覺得它是如此的不同
就像怎麼會有人離開

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紐約布魯克林的威廉斯堡裡
這個非常孤立的社區

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並無奈地找到了他們的方式

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從很小的時後，她就覺得自己與眾不同

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也總是被別人說她很不一樣

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事實上她的心裡也有很多的疑問

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你可以說她有點“無所畏懼”

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薩圖馬雷的猶太人是哈西德教派

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來自匈牙利的薩圖馬雷市

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他們大多是希特勒大屠殺倖存者們的後裔

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戰後，由那些倖存者們在紐約創立的

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這讓他們和其他很多

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哈西德派的族群不一樣

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因為他們戰後才發展了他們的想法

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而不是戰前

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它是被那些苦苦掙扎在

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我們所能想像
巨大創傷之中的人創立的

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對於第一代

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甚至是第二代

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這個創傷是一個很大的推進力

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造就了這個群體的意識結構

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薩瑪圖雷這個族群也很特別
意第緒語是他們的母語

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我想他們在某種程度上可以被視為

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意第緒語的傳承

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- 為什麼是柏林
- 你說呢

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- 什麼意思？
- 她那瘋狂的媽媽住在柏林

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對我們來說，在現今的故事裡
做一些改變是很重要的

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從作者黛博拉費德曼本人的真實生活中

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她是一位年輕的女性
一個公眾人物

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是一個知識份子
我們希望艾絲特在柏林的生活

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可以跟黛博拉在柏林的真實生活
有很大的不同

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所以艾絲特在布魯克林的過去和原著很相似

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但在柏林的經歷幾乎都是虛構的

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你必須脫離那些陳腔濫調

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去超越那些我們所投影出

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那些族群的生活可能是什麼樣子

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這對我們來說很重要
試著不只是去注意那些外表、情感

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服裝、儀式、和所有對的東西

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而是試著去深入思考那些角色的世界

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你才會感到真實

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感受也會被增強
因為這是個電視劇

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我只是覺得，一般來說
當你在表現不同的群體

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特別是邊界的那些族群

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你更要把細節都做到好

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我們知道讓所有人都有共識有多重要

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不只是演員，更是幕前幕後的所有人

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那些來自這個群體的人

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所以我們娉請的第一個人就是Eli Rosen

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他是一個演員、一個翻譯
也是個專家顧問

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當談到意第緒語

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Eli Rosen就是我們的指導者

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也是我們的靈魂嚮導

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他不只翻譯劇本

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也用意第緒語來教導演員

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所有文化上的細節都是他幫忙的

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也親自扮演拉比這個角色

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當我獲得這個機會去確保

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這部戲是具有代表性且有真實性的

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嗯...我...

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我就馬上接受了

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在指導那些背景設立在

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極端正統的猶太教的世界中的場景時

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如果沒有這些建議
我可能會很迷惘

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我們整個團隊去了兩趟紐約做研究

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不只是看看或是觸碰所有東西

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我們更得到了與這個族群內的人士

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會面的機會

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我們盡力讓我們的總部有很多這樣的機會

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當然，這些行程就像是在捕獲一些印象

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或者是感受這的氛圍

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去四處看看、去吸收一切

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有點像是在建立圖像的研究

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我們到處看、到處拍照

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並試著去吸入這個世界

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靠著那些視覺的印象

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當我們被帶去探索紐約的時候

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我們去了一個由前薩圖馬雷女性所帶領的
威廉斯堡導覽

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她在那裡長大，在那裡有了她第一個小孩

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在那裡結婚和經歷所有事

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她帶我們走過威廉斯堡裡很多地方

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也講解了內部建築的一些傳統

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Silke對她的世界做了很多紀錄

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我也做了很多筆記

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對於那些我正要創立的角色

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我們開始拍攝過去在威廉斯堡的部分

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然後，我們去了柏林

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突然間，感覺事情不一樣了

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從意第緒語變成英文
服裝跟打扮也都不一樣

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然後是髮型
有很多各式各樣的髮型，對吧？

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有禿頭、這種、然後那種、還有假髮

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艾絲特有好多種面貌

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在開始這個計劃之前，我跟黛博拉費德曼聊過

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聊關於這個過渡期的個人經歷

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從薩圖馬雷端莊的服裝到西方風格的服裝

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她說她花了很長的時間，這是個很緩慢的過程

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他強迫自己去體驗

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穿T恤露出手臂

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再到露出更多的部位

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她說這真的花了很長的時間

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我也想要表達出這點

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我想要把戴博拉的經歷反映在艾絲特身上

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這是一個很困難的過程

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一個作品就像是一個時代的電影

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在現今的社會上播放

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創立那樣的服飾是一個很大的挑戰

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就像是將背景設立在兩個世界中

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我們的服裝也是截然不同的兩個世界

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而且每個角色都有角色弧線

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不只是存在她的個性，也存在他的外表、服裝

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我們的美術指導

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知道我們會用哪些拍攝地點

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然後量身訂造了不同的場景

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來與這些外景串連

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我們的拍攝地點很複雜

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因為我們在柏林拍攝了大部分的紐約片段

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- 為什麼是德國？

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我以前做過的其他電影

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我們都從視窗來看

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現在，我們直接從裡面拍

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也許這對我來說也是第一次

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Wolfgang是一個很厲害的電影攝影師

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他拍過一些很棒的紀錄片

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他會抓自然光

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會自發性的工作

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我們都開玩笑說他就像攝影機的三腳架穩定器

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他擅長結合不同的光線

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因為我們在真實拍攝場景裡結合了內部造景

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所以光線非常的脆弱

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但Wolfgang真的很擅長做這件事

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當我在看後期製作的素材時

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我很困難去分辨

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哪些是內部哪些是戶外

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哪些是在紐約拍的，哪些是在柏林

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- 她不在這嗎

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希拉哈絲很有天賦
簡直是個鬼臉

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我的意思是，他只要移動她一部分的表情

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就可以讓你哭，或者讓你笑

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希拉是一個很棒的女演員

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很有天賦，也很認真

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給人純粹的喜悅

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每天跟他一起工作都是

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我認為那就是艾絲蒂的美

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我覺得她非常...非常的...

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儘管她的人生一直有人說她很另類

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儘管她也覺得自己跟別人不一樣

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她還是很努力很努力的想要融入

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她很想要感受到歸屬感和幸福

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我們有大約四個主要角色

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