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開機

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這是一件重大的事

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這令人感到驚艷

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我不得不一直提醒自己[br]這都不是真實的

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我們正在做的是一部[br]有歷史意義的電影

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我的電影生涯有百分之九十都在這了

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就像這樣

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來這裏做一部以威廉斯堡為背景的表演

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在柏林做這件事[br]就好在我的腦海裡表演

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一系列的意第緒語[br]對我來說，是一件很棒的事

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將要處理一種沒人理解的語言

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我是指，我們正在處理的是[br]沒人能理解的服裝和儀式

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但本質上的事卻是普遍能理解的

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這是一個非常美麗且獨特的故事

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故事像是描繪了兩個不同的世界

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我不認為這是個關於上帝存在與否或是類似宗教的故事

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更像是一個...勇敢為自己發聲的故事

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很多人都像我一樣[br]從來都沒有這樣的機會

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我們從來沒有在大眾文化的故事中

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看到自己的影子

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所以我們真的不知道[br]該如何去創造自己的故事

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我想這是有史以來[br]第一個真實描繪

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哈希德派的節目

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他們是真實存在的人[br]他們的經歷也是非常普遍的

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你可以很容易地產生連結

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當大家看到作品的時候[br]會有人像我一樣

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看到的是這個女孩子[br]過著跟她一模一樣的生活

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而且她還有勇氣去追逐夢想

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也許自己也可以做到

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當我遇到Ann和Alexa的時候[br]我們就成了朋友

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我意識到，如果真的有人要去掌握

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這個故事真正的意義

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並真正的去執行

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且對文化產生正面的影響

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那就是這些女人了

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在我遇見Deborah之後，我讀了她的書

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我認為非常的精彩

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我一口氣把這本書看完

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接著，她說：

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「為什麼你不把我的書做成電視劇呢？」

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我和Anna想要一起做一部戲已經一段時間了

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我們討論了很多主題

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討論了很多關於在德國生活的猶太人

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對我來說，這是一個關於年輕女性

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尋找自我的故事

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並且在這個世界裡尋找她的群體

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Esther是一個19歲的少女

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他在布魯克林的威廉斯堡出生長大

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這裡有一個族群叫做薩圖馬雷

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- 小艾，別忘了，讓他先開口。

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她生長在一個非常虔誠的社區

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並且，把自己從一段不幸福的指定婚姻裡解放出來

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然後逃到了柏林

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她的故事非常獨特且浪漫

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我們覺得它是如此的不同[br]就像怎麼會有人離開

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紐約布魯克林的威廉斯堡裡[br]這個非常孤立的社區

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並無奈地找到了他們的方式

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從很小的時後，她就覺得自己與眾不同

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也總是被別人說她很不一樣

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事實上她的心裡也有很多的疑問

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你可以說她有點“無所畏懼”

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薩圖馬雷的猶太人是哈西德教派

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來自匈牙利的薩圖馬雷市

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他們大多是希特勒大屠殺倖存者們的後裔

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戰後，由那些倖存者們在紐約創立的

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這讓他們和其他很多

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哈西德派的族群不一樣

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因為他們戰後才發展了他們的想法

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而不是戰前

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它是被那些苦苦掙扎在

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我們所能想像[br]巨大創傷之中的人創立的

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對於第一代

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甚至是第二代

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這個創傷是一個很大的推進力

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造就了這個群體的意識結構

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薩瑪圖雷這個族群也很特別[br]意第緒語是他們的母語

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我想他們在某種程度上可以被視為

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意第緒語的傳承

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- 為什麼是柏林[br]- 你說呢

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- 什麼意思？[br]- 她那瘋狂的媽媽住在柏林

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對我們來說，在現今的故事裡[br]做一些改變是很重要的

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從作者黛博拉費德曼本人的真實生活中

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她是一位年輕的女性[br]一個公眾人物

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是一個知識份子[br]我們希望艾絲特在柏林的生活

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可以跟黛博拉在柏林的真實生活[br]有很大的不同

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所以艾絲特在布魯克林的過去和原著很相似

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但在柏林的經歷幾乎都是虛構的

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你必須脫離那些陳腔濫調

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去超越那些我們所投影出

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那些族群的生活可能是什麼樣子

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這對我們來說很重要[br]試著不只是去注意那些外表、情感

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服裝、儀式、和所有對的東西

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而是試著去深入思考那些角色的世界

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這才是真實的

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層次也被提高了[br]因為這只是個電視劇

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我會覺得，一般來說[br]當你在表現不同的群體

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特別是邊界的那些族群

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你更要把細節都做到好

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我們知道讓所有人都有共識有多重要

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不只是演員，更是幕前幕後的所有人

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那些來自這個群體的人

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所以我們娉請的第一個人就是Eli Rosen

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他是一個演員、一個翻譯[br]也是個專家顧問

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