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[잔잔한 음악]

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액션!

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아주 크죠

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정말 굉장해요

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이들은 실제가 아니라는 것을
제 자신에게 계속 상기시켜야 했어요

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우리가 만드는 것은 어찌보면
역사 영화라고 볼 수 있죠

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촬영장에서 촬영을 할 때 저는 보통

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이런 모습으로 있어요

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여기 와서 윌리엄스버그 세트장 세우고

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베를린에서 촬영하는 게, 상상으로 펼치는 놀이죠.

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저한테도 유대인이 쓰는 언어로 드라마 찍는 게 대단한 일이었죠.

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우리는 아무도 알아듣지 못하는 말로 촬영을 하고,

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아무도 이해하지 못할 의상과 의식을 다루니까요.

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그러나 누구나 그 본질을 이해할 수 있어요.

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이 작품은 아주 아름답고 특별한 이야기를 담고 있어요.

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다른 두 세계를 보여주는 거죠.

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이게 신의 존재를 다루는 이야기는 아니라고 생각해요.

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뭐랄까.. 누구나 목소리를 낼 권리를 다루는 거죠.

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그리고 결단코 나와 같은 사람들은 실제로 그럴 기회가 없었어요.

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대중 문화에서 이런 이야기를 통해 우리 스스로를 고찰할 기회는

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없었으니까요.

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그래서 우린 우리만의 이야기를 어떻게 만들어나가는지 잘 몰랐어요.

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그래서 전 이 작품이 정확하게 하디시즘이라는 공동체를

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제대로 나타낸 최초의 드라마라고 생각하죠.

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이들은 실제로 존재하며, 아주 보편적이고 공감대를 형성해온

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경험을 가지고 있죠.

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하디시즘 문화 속에서 살아가는 사람이 이 작품을 볼 때, 그리고 저같은

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작품을 보고 이 소녀가 정확히 이 문화에 맞게 살고 있었고

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그녀의 꿈을 쫓기 위해 최대한의 용기를 낼 수 있었다는 걸 알 수 있어요.

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이 소녀도 마찬가지에요.

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앤과 알렉사를 만나자마자 바로 친구가 되었어요.

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그리고 만약 누군가가 이 이야기가 무얼 말하고자 하는지를

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제대로 이해하게 될거라면,

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그리고 정말 긍정적인 방향으로

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문화적인 영향력을 끼칠 거라면, 바로 이 여자들이라는 걸

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깨달았습니다.

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데보라를 만나고 나서 그녀의 책을 읽었고,

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정말 굉장하다고 생각했어요.

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자리에 앉아 단숨에 책을 읽었는데, 도저히 책을 내려놓을 수 없었죠.

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그러고나서, 그녀가

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"내 책을 TV 드라마로 만들어 보는 게 어때?"라고 했어요.

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그래서 한동안은 안나와 제가 드라마를 만들고 싶어서

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다양한 주제들을 놓고 작업해봤어요.

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특히 독일에서 유대인으로 사는 것에 대해 많은 이야기를 나누었죠.

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저한텐 이 이야기가 한 젊은 여성이

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스스로를 찾아 나서며

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이 세계에서 그녀가 속할 공동체를 찾아나가는 여정이에요.

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에스더는 19살 소녀죠.

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브루클린의 윌리엄스버그, 그리고 사트말이라고 하는 지역 사회에서

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태어나고 자라왔죠.

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- 에스더, 잊지마. 남자가 먼저 말하는 거야.

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그녀는 매우 독실한 이웃들과 함께 성장했어요.

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그리고 중매로 맺어진 불행한 결혼 생활로부터 탈출해서

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베를린으로 날아갔죠.

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그녀의 이야기는 특별하고 로맨틱해요.

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뉴욕 브루클린의 윌리엄스버그의, 이렇게 아주 배타적인 무리를 떠나

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여기서 선택의 여지 없이 살 길을 찾아나가는 게

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굉장히 특이하다는 걸 느꼈어요.

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아주 어린 나이부터 그녀는 스스로가 항상 남들과는 다르다고 생각했죠.

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항상 마음 속으로 의문을 품어왔고,

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대담한 마음가짐을 지녔다는 사실로 인해

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그녀는 늘 특이하다는 말을 듣고 살아왔어요.

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사트말 유대교는 하디시즘 공동체로

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헝가리의 사투 마레라는 마을로부터 유래됩니다.

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그들은 대부분 홀로코스트에서 생존한 이들의 후손이고

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세계 대전 후 뉴욕에 자리 잡은 홀로코스트 생존자들로부터 이어져왔죠.

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이러한 역사는 그들이 다른 하디시즘 공동체와는

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다소 동떨어진 느낌을 주는데요.

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왜냐하면 전쟁이 끝난 후, 과거와는 다른 그들만의 정체성을

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세웠기 때문입니다.

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사트말은 우리가 상상할 수 있는

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가장 심각한 정신적 트라우마로 시달린 이들이 세웠습니다.

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사트말 1세대에게,

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제 생각엔 처음 1세대와 2세대에겐

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이런 트라우마가 사트말 공동체의

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사상적인 구조를 세우는 데 큰 원동력이 되었죠.

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사트말 사람들이 이디쉬어를 모국어로 쓰는 것도 특별한 점이죠.

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어느 정도는 그들이 이디시어를 존속시켜왔다고

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볼 수 있습니다.

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- 그런데 왜 하필 베를린이야?
- 생각을 해봐.

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- 뭐라고?
- 정신나간 걔네 엄마가 베를린에서 살잖아!

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오늘날 데보라 펠드만이라는 사람의 인생에 변화를 가져오는 점은

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우리에게 정말 중요했습니다.

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그녀는 어린 소녀이자 유명 인사이며, 대중적인 지식인이기 때문에

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우리는 에스더의 베를린 생활이 실제 데보라의 베를린 생활과는

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큰 차이가 있길 원했습니다.

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그래서 어떤 의미에선

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248
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251
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252
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253
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254
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255
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256
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257
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258
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259
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260
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261
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262
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263
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264
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265
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266
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267
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268
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269
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270
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271
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272
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273
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274
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275
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276
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277
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278
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279
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280
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281
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282
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283
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284
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285
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286
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287
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288
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289
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290
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291
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292
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293
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294
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295
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296
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297
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298
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299
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300
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301
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302
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303
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304
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305
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306
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307
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308
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309
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310
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311
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312
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313
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314
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315
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316
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317
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318
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319
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320
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321
00:17:45,790 --> 00:17:49,281


322
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323
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324
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325
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326
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327
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328
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329
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330
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331
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332
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333
00:18:35,867 --> 00:18:37,384


334
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335
00:18:41,834 --> 00:18:45,031


336
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337
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338
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339
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340
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341
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342
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343
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344
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345
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346
00:19:16,696 --> 00:19:19,538


347
00:19:20,228 --> 00:19:22,052


348
00:19:22,052 --> 00:19:25,551


349
00:19:26,511 --> 00:19:32,252


350
00:19:32,252 --> 00:19:38,665


351
00:19:38,665 --> 00:19:41,283


352
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353
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354
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355
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356
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357
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358
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359
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360
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361
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362
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363
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364
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365
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366
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367
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