1 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 And action! 2 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 It's huge. 3 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 It's mind blowing. 4 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I have to keep reminding myself that they're not real. 5 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 It's like a historical movie, actually, what we are doing here. 6 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 This is 90 percent of my filming experience, here? 7 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Is like this. 8 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Come over here to do a show set in Williamsburg, 9 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 to do it in Berlin, it kind of, you know, plays with my head. 10 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 A series in Yiddish, for me also, personally, I think it's a great thing. 11 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Going to be dealing with a language that no one understands. 12 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I mean, we're dealing with costumes and rituals no one understands. 13 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 But the essence of what's happening, that's universally understood. 14 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 This very beautiful and unique story 15 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 that shows kind of like, both worlds. 16 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I don't think it's a story about the existence of God, or something. 17 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 It's more about...the right to have your voice. 18 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 And people like me never really had that opportunity. 19 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 We never saw ourselves reflected back in the stories being told 20 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 in popular culture. 21 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 So we didn't really know how to create our own stories. 22 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I think this is the first show, ever, to accurately portray 23 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 the Hasidic community. 24 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 These are real people, and their experiences are very universal, 25 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and very relatable. 26 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 When the community watches it, and there is somebody like me, 27 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 watches it, and sees, this girl lived exactly like she lives. 28 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 And, she was able to muster the courage to follow her dreams. 29 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Maybe this girl can, too. 30 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 When I met Ann and Alexa, and I became friends with them, 31 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I realized, if anybody is ever going to really be able to grasp 32 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 what the story is about, 33 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and to really execute it in a way 34 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 that is going to have a positive cultural impact, 35 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 it's these women. 36 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 After I met Deborah, i read her book, 37 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and I thought it was amazing. 38 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I mean, I read it in one sitting. I couldn't put it down. 39 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 And then, she said: 40 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 "Well, why don't you make my book into a TV show?" 41 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Anna and I wanted to make a show for a while, 42 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 in which we could work through a lot of the topics 43 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 we discuss a lot, especially about being Jewish in Germany. 44 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 To me, the story is about a young woman, who 45 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 is searching for herself, 46 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and she is searching for her community in the world. 47 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Esther is a 19 year old girl. 48 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 She was born and raised in Williamsburg, Brooklyn, 49 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 in the community called Satmar. 50 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 - Don't forget, Esty. He speaks first. 51 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 She grows up in a very religious neighborhood. 52 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 And, frees herself from an unhappy arranged marriage, 53 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and flees to Berlin. 54 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Her story is unique, and romantic. 55 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 We just felt it was so different, that somebody would leave 56 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 this very insular community in Williamsburg, Brooklyn, New York, 57 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and find their way here, out of choice. 58 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 From a very young age, she always felt very different. 59 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 She's always been told that she is very different, 60 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 because of the fact that she always has questions within her, 61 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and she has that 'chutzpah,' you can say. 62 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 The Satmar Jews are a Hasidic community, 63 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 originally from the town of Sate Mar, in Hungary. 64 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 They are mostly descendants of Holocaust survivors, and 65 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 started by Holocaust survivors, in New York, after the war. 66 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 This kind of makes them a little bit different 67 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 than a lot of other Hasidic communities, 68 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 because they really developed what they were about, after the war. 69 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 It is founded by people who are struggling with the most immense trauma. 70 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 For the first generation, 71 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I would say even for the first two generations, 72 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 this trauma was a very driving force 73 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 behind the ideological structures of this community. 74 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 The Satmar community is also special, in that Yiddish is their native language. 75 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I think they can be credited, to some degree, 76 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 with keeping Yiddish alive. 77 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 - But why Berlin? - Think about it. 78 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 - What? - Her crazy mama lives in Berlin! 79 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 It was very important to us, to make changes in the present-day story, 80 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 from Deborah Feldman's real life. 81 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Because she is a young woman, she is a public figure, 82 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 she is a public intellectual, and we wanted Esther's 83 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Berlin life to be very different from real Deborah's Berlin life. 84 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 So, in a sense, the flasbacks are based on the book, 85 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 but the present-day story is entirely made up. 86 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 You have to go beyond cliché, 87 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 beyond our projection into what the life might be. 88 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 in a community like this. 89 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 It was very important to us to get not just the look and feel 90 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and costumes, and rituals, and everything correct, but 91 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 to inhabit the ideas of these characters' worlds, 92 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 in a way that felt authentic, 93 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 but also heightened, because it's television. 94 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I just, in general, feel like, when you're showing 95 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 different communities, especially communities on the margins, 96 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 you want to get the details right. 97 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 We knew it was so important to get people on board, 98 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 not just as actors, but behind and in front of the camera, 99 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 who are from this community. 100 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 So one of the first people we hired was Eli Rosen, 101 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 who is an actor, translator, and kind of specialist, 102 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 when it comes to Yiddish. 103 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Eli Rosen was like our guide. 104 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 He was our spirit guide. 105 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 He not only translated the scripts, 106 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 he coached the actors in Yiddish, 107 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 he helped us with all the cultural details, 108 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and he played the rabbi. 109 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 When I was given the opportunity to help ensure 110 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 that it was representative, and that it is authentic, 111 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 um...I, uh... 112 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 jumped at it. 113 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Directing the scenes which are set within or 114 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 in the ultra-Orthodox world, 115 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I would have been lost, without this advice. 116 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 We had two research trips to New York, 117 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 with our entire team, to not just watch and look, 118 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and touch everything we saw, but we got access 119 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 to meeting people who are still in this community. 120 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 We really tried to offer our heads of department, as much access. 121 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 These trips, of course, are like a hunt, for impressions, 122 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 for feeling atmosphere, 123 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 for just watching, for just taking things in. 124 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 It was a kind of image-based research. 125 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 We looked around. We took so many pictures. 126 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 And we tried to inhale this world 127 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 by the visual impressions we got. 128 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 While we were taken around New York, 129 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 we went on a tour of Williamsburg, by an ex-Satmar woman, 130 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 who had grown up there, she had her first child there, 131 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and had been married, and everything. 132 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 She walked us through a lot of Williamsburg, 133 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and a lot of traditions within the exterior buildings. 134 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Silke was taking lots of notes for her world, 135 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and I was taking lots of notes 136 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 for the characters that I was going to be building. 137 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 We started shooting the past, like the Williamsburg parts, 138 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and then, we moved to Berlin. 139 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 So, suddenly, something felt different. 140 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Also, it's moving from Yiddish to English, and different outfits and makeup. 141 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Suddenly, the hair -- and there was so many different hairs, right? 142 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 There is bald, and there is this, and there is the wig, and -- 143 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Esty has so many faces. 144 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I had spoken to Deborah Feldman, before we started the project, 145 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 about her personal experience of transitioning 146 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 from Satmar modesty clothing, to Western clothing. 147 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 She said it took her a long time, and it was a slow process, 148 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and she pushed herself to experience 149 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 wearing T shirts, and showing her arm, 150 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and showing more flesh. 151 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 She said it did take a long time. 152 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 So, I wanted to show that. 153 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I wanted to reflect Deborah's experience, with Esther. 154 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 It was so hard to create, in a way, 155 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 a production that is much like a period film, 156 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 that plays in the world of today. 157 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 To create the costumes for that was a very big challenge. 158 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Much like the sets that played in two worlds, 159 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 we had costumes that played in two worlds. 160 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Plus, a character who has an arc, 161 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 not just in her character, but in her looks, and her clothes. 162 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Our production designer knew which exterior locations 163 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 we were going to be using there, 164 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and built, made to measure, here, 165 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 to sync with those exteriors. 166 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 We have complicated locations, because we shot 167 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 most of the New York part, here in Berlin. 168 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 - Why Germany? 169 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 The other movies that we did before, 170 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 we can [film] through the windows, 171 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and now, we do everything inside. 172 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 So, maybe, this is a very first experience, for me. Yeah. 173 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Wolfgang is an incredible cinematographer. 174 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 He has shot some of the most incredible documentaries. 175 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 He is able to work with natural light. 176 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 He is able to work spontaneously. 177 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 We joke that he is like the hand held steadicam. 178 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 He is good at combining different kinds of light, 179 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 which, because we were matching set interiors with real exteriors, 180 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 the lighting was very delicate, 181 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and Wolfgang was incredible at that. 182 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 When I watch material in post production, 183 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I think it is very difficult 184 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 to see what was inside, and what was outside, 185 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 what was in New York, and what was shot in Berlin. 186 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 - She's not here? 187 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Shira Haas is a talent. What a face. 188 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I mean, she only needs to move a part of her face, 189 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and can make you cry, or laugh. 190 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Shira is just an enormous, enormous actress. 191 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 So talented. So gifted. Such a hard worker. 192 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 It was pure joy. 193 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Every day, it was pure joy, to work with Shira. 194 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I think that what is really beautiful in Esty, 195 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I think that she really really really, 196 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 even though she has been told all her life that she is different, 197 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 even though she feels like she is different, 198 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 she always tries very, very hard to fit in. Really. 199 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 And, she really wants to find that feeling of belonging and happiness. 200 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 We have, sort of, four main characters. 201 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I mean, Esther is the main character, 202 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 but the other main characters are all Satmar characters, 203 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 who are dealing with being inside and outside at the same time.