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Dialogue: 0,0:00:06.29,0:00:10.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, it's almost time\Nto begin the presentation.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:11.60,0:00:17.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We will begin this last session\Nwith a presentation on WikiCite,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:17.88,0:00:22.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,led by Elizabeth Seiver,\NSimon Cobb, and Liam Wyatt.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:22.03,0:00:26.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I'll just let you introduce yourself.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:27.13,0:00:30.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Please don't hesitate\Nto take notes on Etherpad.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:30.75,0:00:33.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thank you for everything.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:35.36,0:00:37.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Alright, let's get started.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:37.06,0:00:38.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, I'm Elizabeth Seiver.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:38.47,0:00:42.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm the outgoing\Nprogram manager for WikiCite.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:42.78,0:00:45.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I wanted to tell you all\Na little bit about it.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:45.25,0:00:48.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Just as a show of hands, how many people\Nare already familiar with WikiCite?
Dialogue: 0,0:00:49.02,0:00:51.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's great. I'm just glad\Nthat so many of you are.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:51.77,0:00:54.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was wondering how many people here--\NI was thinking about it--
Dialogue: 0,0:00:54.37,0:00:57.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is just like, "Who are all these people\Nputting all the citations
Dialogue: 0,0:00:57.64,0:00:59.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in Wikidata and filling it up?"
Dialogue: 0,0:00:59.63,0:01:01.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And WikiCite is so much more.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:01.05,0:01:03.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, we're all excited\Nto tell you about it today.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:05.68,0:01:07.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, what is WikiCite?
Dialogue: 0,0:01:08.28,0:01:12.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The goal of WikiCite\Nis to collect all citations
Dialogue: 0,0:01:12.10,0:01:14.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for the sum of all human knowledge.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:14.18,0:01:16.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, just a little something.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:16.05,0:01:19.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we're doing this in a number of ways.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:20.92,0:01:25.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And one of them\Nis via conferences and workshops
Dialogue: 0,0:01:25.29,0:01:27.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and getting together\Nthe community of people
Dialogue: 0,0:01:27.73,0:01:30.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who are interested\Nin working on citations.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:30.48,0:01:32.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it's a very diverse group of people.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:32.99,0:01:35.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, of course, we have people\Nwho are working in Wikidata,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:35.46,0:01:36.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and other Wikimedians.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:36.88,0:01:40.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We have librarians,\Npeople into linked open data,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:40.58,0:01:44.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,software engineers, data scientists,\Nopen knowledge advocates--
Dialogue: 0,0:01:45.52,0:01:50.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,coming together about\Nlinked open bibliographic data.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:53.23,0:01:55.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, in terms of the history of WikiCite,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:55.86,0:01:59.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it was founded as an initiative in 2016.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:59.48,0:02:05.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we secured dedicated funding\Nfor events for three years in 2018.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:05.46,0:02:10.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And as I mentioned,\Nyou're probably familiar with the big--
Dialogue: 0,0:02:11.38,0:02:13.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the millions of citations\Nthat we already have
Dialogue: 0,0:02:13.44,0:02:15.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that are hosted on Wikidata.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:23.29,0:02:27.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, what are we doing in WikiCite\Nand with all these citations?
Dialogue: 0,0:02:27.60,0:02:30.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's not just about collecting them.\NIt's about using them.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:30.28,0:02:36.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it creates so many opportunities\Nfor new projects.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:36.57,0:02:38.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, one of the things\Nyou can do with this data
Dialogue: 0,0:02:38.80,0:02:42.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is build data models\Nfor bibliographic item types,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:42.16,0:02:44.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which should be exciting for people\Nwho are into schemas.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:45.97,0:02:50.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You can also do open cataloging\Nand disambiguation--
Dialogue: 0,0:02:51.86,0:02:54.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sorry, my notes are not in sync with this.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:54.45,0:02:57.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And people are also building\Ntools on top of this.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:57.90,0:03:00.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Visualization tools, such as Scholia.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:03.28,0:03:06.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you're interested at all\Nin open cataloging,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:06.100,0:03:09.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or author disambiguation,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:10.20,0:03:12.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or just even figuring out\Nhow sources link together,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:12.91,0:03:15.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,WikiCite is a good way to do that.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:17.33,0:03:20.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, in terms of the direction\Nthat WikiCite is heading in,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:21.02,0:03:23.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,one of the things\Nwe're trying to do is expand
Dialogue: 0,0:03:23.31,0:03:25.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all the types of things that are cited.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:25.57,0:03:28.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Right now, in Wikidata,\Nit's mostly journal articles.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:28.93,0:03:31.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We'd like to keep growing our community,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:31.08,0:03:32.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,especially outside of the Global North
Dialogue: 0,0:03:32.87,0:03:35.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and outside of English\Nlanguage publications.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:36.64,0:03:41.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I realize this is actually something\Nthat Liam will be talking about.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:42.70,0:03:45.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, what we wanted to do now,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:45.54,0:03:49.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to do sort of a deep dive\Ninto one of the uses of Wikidata.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:49.84,0:03:53.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, for that, I would like\Nto introduce Simon Cobb.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:57.29,0:03:58.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Hi, everyone.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:58.35,0:04:01.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, what I want to talk about\Nis an example of something
Dialogue: 0,0:04:01.26,0:04:05.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we could potentially focus on\Nwithin the scope of WikiCite.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:05.06,0:04:08.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that's the data quality issues\Nthat I've been encountering
Dialogue: 0,0:04:08.06,0:04:12.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,over the last year, as I've been editing\Non scholarly papers.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:15.55,0:04:17.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The three issues I'm going\Nto briefly touch on
Dialogue: 0,0:04:17.93,0:04:21.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are the quality of the author items\Nthat are getting attached
Dialogue: 0,0:04:21.06,0:04:24.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to scholarly articles,\Nissues around DOI formats,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:24.100,0:04:29.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and just general curation\Nof the data that we're creating.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:31.27,0:04:33.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Firstly, we look at some authors.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:33.58,0:04:35.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Oh, sorry, firstly,\NI'll provide some context.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:35.80,0:04:38.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We've got 26 million\Nscholarly article items now.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:38.95,0:04:41.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the data quality issues\NI'm going to talk about,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:41.94,0:04:43.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a very small proportion of these
Dialogue: 0,0:04:43.84,0:04:47.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are generally creating\Nquite good quality data.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:48.47,0:04:53.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We have a lot of external identifiers--\N21.65 million PubMed IDs,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:53.64,0:04:59.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,19 million DOIs, and we've added\N8.3 million author statements,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:59.97,0:05:05.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,although we still have 105.5 million\Nauthor name strings to replace.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:07.31,0:05:09.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In terms of the authors,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:09.56,0:05:12.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we've been creating a lot\Nof items from ORCID IDs.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:14.58,0:05:17.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We've got over half a million items\Nwith an ORCID ID now.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:18.44,0:05:22.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But over 50% of those\Ndo not have any affiliation data yet.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:23.46,0:05:26.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that's now in {\i1}employer{\i0}\Nor in {\i1}educated at{\i0}.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:26.70,0:05:28.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I found 25,000
Dialogue: 0,0:05:28.73,0:05:30.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where we only have two statements.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:30.76,0:05:34.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's an ORCID ID,\Nand {\i1}an instance of a human{\i0}.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:34.79,0:05:37.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This isn't particularly\Nuseful in terms of--
Dialogue: 0,0:05:39.10,0:05:42.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we use for anyone else\Nand beyond Wikidata.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:42.27,0:05:45.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If we're serious about approaching\Na bibliographic database
Dialogue: 0,0:05:45.51,0:05:47.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and providing open data for people,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:47.70,0:05:50.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we really need to be focusing\Non quality, I believe.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:52.08,0:05:54.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, there's a lot of work to be done.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:54.01,0:05:56.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We've done really well\Nwith automatic input,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:56.85,0:05:59.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I think we need to, in the future,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:59.29,0:06:02.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,step back and think\Nhow can we really make this data useful.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:03.64,0:06:04.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And one of the ways to do that
Dialogue: 0,0:06:04.91,0:06:09.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is by making our author items\Nbetter quality
Dialogue: 0,0:06:09.92,0:06:14.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by adding affiliation information,\Nadding first names, surnames,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:14.86,0:06:18.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and just moving beyond\Noccupation researcher,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:18.93,0:06:22.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,trying to get what field people\Nare working in, for example.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:23.92,0:06:25.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Moving on to DOIs.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:25.70,0:06:29.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When I was looking at how many\Nscholarly papers we have now,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:29.43,0:06:35.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I immediately noticed that we have DOIs\Nthat are just four characters.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:35.04,0:06:37.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that is not a correct DOI.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:37.23,0:06:42.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We've got about 110 items\Nwith this DOI format.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:42.87,0:06:46.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In the grand scheme of things,\Nnot that big a problem.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:46.70,0:06:49.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But that's never been a correct DOI
Dialogue: 0,0:06:49.06,0:06:51.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's being created\Nby an automatic process.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:51.52,0:06:55.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,No one's checked that and realized\Nwe had this error and corrected it.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:55.28,0:06:57.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, it's kind of an appeal\NI want to make to people--
Dialogue: 0,0:06:58.53,0:07:01.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if you're doing batch imports,\Nto check what you're doing,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:01.10,0:07:03.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,look for these obvious\Ndata quality problems.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:06.54,0:07:10.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And another final issue\Nthat I've noticed is errata.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:10.61,0:07:15.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We have over 13 thousand items\Nthat are {\i1}instance of errata{\i0},
Dialogue: 0,0:07:16.05,0:07:18.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but they're not linked\Nto the paper they're correcting.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:18.61,0:07:25.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, I've also produced a table\Nof the top ten titles of the--
Dialogue: 0,0:07:26.15,0:07:27.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,these are errata items.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:27.34,0:07:30.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You will notice they're not\Nparticularly informative.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:30.03,0:07:32.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, as some point,\Nwe're going to have to go back
Dialogue: 0,0:07:32.50,0:07:36.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and look at how we can actually\Nget the information
Dialogue: 0,0:07:36.87,0:07:39.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about what these errata are correcting,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:39.84,0:07:43.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because they're not really\Nof much use to anyone at the moment.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:44.71,0:07:48.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, in the future, I hope this is one area\Nthat we can work on as a community,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:48.83,0:07:53.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we can coordinate a bit better\Nwith what data imports we're doing,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:53.35,0:07:57.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and how we can curate all our data,\Nbring it all together,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:57.77,0:07:59.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and combine our expertise.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:01.62,0:08:03.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm going to pass over to Liam now
Dialogue: 0,0:08:03.28,0:08:07.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to talk a bit about how we might be able\Nto coordinate our efforts in the future.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:15.12,0:08:16.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thank you.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:21.30,0:08:26.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, as mentioned\Nin the final slide from Elizabeth,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:26.84,0:08:33.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,WikiCite is trying to be\Nmore and more diverse,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:33.12,0:08:36.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and high quality, and more widely spread.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:36.14,0:08:39.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The idea is over the next year or so,\Nwith the dedicated funding
Dialogue: 0,0:08:39.95,0:08:43.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's been provided and is available\Nover a three-year period,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:43.11,0:08:45.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of which we've entered,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:45.35,0:08:51.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to change WikiCite-- the conference--\Nwhich there's been a few--
Dialogue: 0,0:08:51.19,0:08:58.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,into a series of proposals from you,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:58.89,0:09:02.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,into what we're calling\N"satellite events" around the world.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:03.34,0:09:08.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This will be focusing--\Nthere'll be a call for a proposal system--
Dialogue: 0,0:09:08.24,0:09:12.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like reviewing a procedure
Dialogue: 0,0:09:12.04,0:09:14.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that is currently not yet invented
Dialogue: 0,0:09:14.39,0:09:18.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for deciding on how to--
Dialogue: 0,0:09:20.97,0:09:22.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what's the word I'm after--
Dialogue: 0,0:09:22.48,0:09:24.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,prioritize these requests.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:24.80,0:09:29.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And see if we can't get a wider diversity
Dialogue: 0,0:09:29.38,0:09:32.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of content contributor and topic
Dialogue: 0,0:09:33.12,0:09:36.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,supported in the WikiCite umbrella,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:38.24,0:09:41.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,through this series of satellite events.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:41.35,0:09:42.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,To that end,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:43.10,0:09:46.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the WikiCite grant--
Dialogue: 0,0:09:47.04,0:09:52.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was successfully applied for and received
Dialogue: 0,0:09:52.34,0:09:57.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,through the work\Nof WikiCite's father, Dario,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:57.46,0:10:00.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who many of you might know\Nfrom the Wikimedia Foundation.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:00.98,0:10:04.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Dario no longer works\Nwith the Wikimedia Foundation,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:04.11,0:10:06.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and so this grant has a--
Dialogue: 0,0:10:08.04,0:10:09.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,needed a home.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:09.86,0:10:14.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What has happened\Nis that the WikiCite steering committee,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:14.28,0:10:17.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,primarily made up of the organizing team
Dialogue: 0,0:10:17.10,0:10:20.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from last year's WikiCite conference,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:20.32,0:10:23.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,will continue to oversee this work,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:23.92,0:10:27.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the Wikimedia Foundation\Nhas hired a temporary
Dialogue: 0,0:10:28.22,0:10:31.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or a part-time coordinator,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:32.02,0:10:34.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to oversee and support that work,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:34.62,0:10:38.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and to promote and receive\Nthose applications
Dialogue: 0,0:10:38.79,0:10:40.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for the satellite events.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:40.45,0:10:41.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that will be me.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:42.84,0:10:45.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(laughter and cheers)
Dialogue: 0,0:10:48.32,0:10:50.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, I got the call yesterday
Dialogue: 0,0:10:50.59,0:10:54.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so that I could be able\Nto like confirm that in--
Dialogue: 0,0:10:54.32,0:10:58.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,among an audience\Nwhich is highly relevant to that topic.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:59.31,0:11:02.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Which is helpful, so I can talk to you\Nhere and now about that.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:03.97,0:11:08.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, this is listed as a panel\Nin the program.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:09.56,0:11:11.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Even though it's a bit of a--
Dialogue: 0,0:11:12.19,0:11:13.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think panel is a generous way
Dialogue: 0,0:11:13.78,0:11:17.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of describing the three of us\Nin this context.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:17.34,0:11:19.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But the idea is we would like\Nto hear from you
Dialogue: 0,0:11:19.57,0:11:22.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on that immediate thought about--
Dialogue: 0,0:11:22.57,0:11:24.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or questions to Simon, as well--
Dialogue: 0,0:11:24.91,0:11:27.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if you have questions\Nfor Simon, specifically--
Dialogue: 0,0:11:27.49,0:11:31.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about what you think are good directions
Dialogue: 0,0:11:31.91,0:11:35.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that should be addressed\Nor should be attempted
Dialogue: 0,0:11:35.32,0:11:37.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in this forthcoming year,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:38.60,0:11:40.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,either individually, online--
Dialogue: 0,0:11:41.52,0:11:43.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and things that not\Nnecessarily you can do,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:43.99,0:11:46.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but think should be done.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:47.43,0:11:52.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And specifically, to start thinking about
Dialogue: 0,0:11:52.02,0:11:55.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what a satellite event would mean
Dialogue: 0,0:11:55.62,0:11:58.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with relation to open citations
Dialogue: 0,0:11:58.46,0:12:03.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and how the community at large\Nwould best be served
Dialogue: 0,0:12:03.19,0:12:04.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by that kind of support.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:04.73,0:12:08.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Beyond merely financial,\Nbut what does support mean
Dialogue: 0,0:12:08.86,0:12:13.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for satellite events in open citations\Naccording to you.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:14.50,0:12:16.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you want to come back up, and we can--
Dialogue: 0,0:12:17.29,0:12:18.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Did you have a question?
Dialogue: 0,0:12:18.58,0:12:23.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(woman) Ah, yes. I do research\Non predatory publishing
Dialogue: 0,0:12:23.04,0:12:25.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and on retractions.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:25.06,0:12:26.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You only mentioned errata.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:26.81,0:12:29.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, how are you dealing\Nwith expressions of concern
Dialogue: 0,0:12:29.100,0:12:31.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and retractions?
Dialogue: 0,0:12:31.67,0:12:36.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And what is your policy on trying\Nto identify predatory publishers?
Dialogue: 0,0:12:37.01,0:12:39.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Okay, so, within the scope\Nof preparing for this,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:39.80,0:12:45.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I wasn't looking at retractions,\Nbut people have been doing work on that
Dialogue: 0,0:12:45.55,0:12:49.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and trying to-- we have a property--\Nnotice of retractions--
Dialogue: 0,0:12:49.04,0:12:51.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so we can be creating those links.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:52.45,0:12:55.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't know what extent\Nthat's happened in the same way.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:55.48,0:13:00.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Not all the errata are linked\Nto the paper that's being corrected.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:00.30,0:13:02.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I suspect that's a similar case with--
Dialogue: 0,0:13:02.50,0:13:04.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- (woman) It's exactly the same.\N- Yeah.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:05.33,0:13:06.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,As I said, I wasn't looking at that,
Dialogue: 0,0:13:06.91,0:13:12.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but we can potentially link the retraction\Nto the retracted article,
Dialogue: 0,0:13:12.49,0:13:15.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the retraction notice\Nto the retracted article.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:15.14,0:13:17.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In terms of predatory publishers,
Dialogue: 0,0:13:18.28,0:13:21.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm not aware of anyone\Nhaving done any work in this area,
Dialogue: 0,0:13:21.38,0:13:23.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I wouldn't like to say\Nthat hasn't happened.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:23.84,0:13:26.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We have Charles, whose hand\Nis going up there.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:26.84,0:13:30.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Do you want to comment\Non predatory publishers, Charles?
Dialogue: 0,0:13:35.17,0:13:38.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Charles) Well, I encountered\Nthis problem in the ScienceSource project.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:38.84,0:13:43.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And first of all, I did what I could\Nto put fields list in Wikidata format.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:43.46,0:13:46.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Fields list isn't sort of what everybody\Nwants to be dealing with,
Dialogue: 0,0:13:46.98,0:13:48.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but it was a starting point.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:48.44,0:13:52.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, that has been done,\Nas far as I was able to.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:53.27,0:13:56.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But the thing I rely on more, perhaps,
Dialogue: 0,0:13:56.74,0:14:00.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is DOAJ IDs.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:00.72,0:14:04.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That is, if we put all the DOAJ IDs
Dialogue: 0,0:14:04.18,0:14:07.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,into Wikidata,
Dialogue: 0,0:14:07.83,0:14:09.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we'd have made a really good attempt
Dialogue: 0,0:14:09.91,0:14:12.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to isolate the predatory publishers.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:12.62,0:14:14.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that is not the whole story,
Dialogue: 0,0:14:14.06,0:14:16.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but these days,\Nit's the bulk of the story.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:16.93,0:14:19.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(woman) [Is the directory\Nof open access there?]
Dialogue: 0,0:14:19.07,0:14:22.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- (Charles) Directory of open access, yes.\N- (woman) Alright, good.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:31.45,0:14:34.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(man) To start with, I just spent a year\Ntraveling around New Zealand
Dialogue: 0,0:14:34.24,0:14:37.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,trying to explain Wikidata\Nto the library community,
Dialogue: 0,0:14:37.78,0:14:40.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and as soon as I mentioned WikiCite,\Ntheir eyes rolled,
Dialogue: 0,0:14:40.22,0:14:42.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because they've just been told\Nthey have to be [up] with Wikipedia,
Dialogue: 0,0:14:42.87,0:14:43.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Wiki Commons, Wikidata.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:43.96,0:14:46.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Here's another Wiki project\Nthat they need to know about.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:46.23,0:14:48.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Why can't we just do it all\Nwith Wikidata?" they were saying.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:48.74,0:14:50.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, there's a public perception\Nproblem straightaway,
Dialogue: 0,0:14:50.89,0:14:53.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that's the very community\Nthat we need to have onboard
Dialogue: 0,0:14:53.80,0:14:54.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for this to work.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:54.82,0:14:57.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm interested in thinking\Nhow we are going to reach
Dialogue: 0,0:14:57.10,0:15:01.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the library community, educate them,\Nand get them integrally involved
Dialogue: 0,0:15:01.42,0:15:03.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in this process?
Dialogue: 0,0:15:06.45,0:15:09.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have thoughts, but I'd like\Nto hear your thoughts first.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:10.91,0:15:14.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Sure, I think--\N- (assistant) [This one is on.]
Dialogue: 0,0:15:16.38,0:15:18.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This better? Alright.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:18.69,0:15:20.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Feel like I'm in a concert.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:20.54,0:15:23.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, one of the things we've tried to do
Dialogue: 0,0:15:23.09,0:15:29.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is incorporate librarians and libraries
Dialogue: 0,0:15:29.67,0:15:32.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,into WikiCite in everything that we do.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:32.62,0:15:33.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, on the steering committee,
Dialogue: 0,0:15:33.92,0:15:39.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we have at least\Ntwo librarians, if not more.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:39.46,0:15:44.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And at our actual WikiCite events,
Dialogue: 0,0:15:44.23,0:15:46.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,one of the things that's actually\Npretty great about WikiCite
Dialogue: 0,0:15:46.70,0:15:50.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is that we end up getting\Nboth speakers and participants,
Dialogue: 0,0:15:50.91,0:15:54.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who maybe are not actually involved\Nin any Wiki projects.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:54.85,0:15:56.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, we don't have Wiki fatigue.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:57.47,0:16:01.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And a lot of times, they're coming\Nfrom the perspective of...
Dialogue: 0,0:16:01.69,0:16:04.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Well, I'm interested in linked open data,
Dialogue: 0,0:16:04.84,0:16:07.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I love to use citations at my university,
Dialogue: 0,0:16:07.43,0:16:09.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,can you tell me a little bit more\Nabout how Wikidata works,
Dialogue: 0,0:16:09.75,0:16:12.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and how I might use the citations\Nthat are in Wikidata?"
Dialogue: 0,0:16:12.38,0:16:17.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, I think it's very much\Nabout bringing these communities together,
Dialogue: 0,0:16:17.06,0:16:20.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which might seem disparate,\Naround these common goals
Dialogue: 0,0:16:20.70,0:16:23.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for people who are really concerned\Nabout curating data,
Dialogue: 0,0:16:23.08,0:16:26.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then, people who might already know\Nabout how to do that on Wikidata.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:28.35,0:16:31.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I would say, in terms of the confusion,
Dialogue: 0,0:16:31.40,0:16:35.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the complexity implied by the question\Nof well, there's WikiCite,
Dialogue: 0,0:16:35.32,0:16:37.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and there's Wikidata, and there's this...
Dialogue: 0,0:16:37.35,0:16:41.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,WikiCite is a brand name,\Nit's a project-- GLAM-Wiki--
Dialogue: 0,0:16:42.89,0:16:45.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,GLAM-Wiki also uses the word Wiki,
Dialogue: 0,0:16:45.53,0:16:48.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but it's not pretending to be a Wiki
Dialogue: 0,0:16:48.76,0:16:51.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or competing with Wikipedia and Wikidata.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:51.19,0:16:56.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's the particular focus area\Nof reference information,
Dialogue: 0,0:16:56.12,0:16:58.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"referenceable" information.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:58.79,0:17:04.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now, particularly in the context\Nof a series of conferences
Dialogue: 0,0:17:04.91,0:17:07.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that have happened\Nover the last few years,
Dialogue: 0,0:17:07.06,0:17:09.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the conference is called WikiCite--
Dialogue: 0,0:17:11.96,0:17:15.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,particularly within this community,\Nthe Wikidata core group,
Dialogue: 0,0:17:15.81,0:17:21.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,WikiCite is seen, known, understood\Nas a large number of items
Dialogue: 0,0:17:21.40,0:17:24.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,uploaded to Wikidata\Nabout scholarly publications.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:24.67,0:17:30.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That is what is understood as WikiCite\Nby this community, mostly.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:32.94,0:17:35.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I would like to--
Dialogue: 0,0:17:36.05,0:17:38.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there is a question about,
Dialogue: 0,0:17:38.04,0:17:42.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,could WikiCite be made\Ninto its own Wikibase
Dialogue: 0,0:17:42.06,0:17:45.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of just citation stuff?
Dialogue: 0,0:17:45.23,0:17:47.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Not Wikidata, and then there's federation,
Dialogue: 0,0:17:48.91,0:17:50.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and funky things like that,
Dialogue: 0,0:17:50.57,0:17:54.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you could put a lot more\Nvery specific information
Dialogue: 0,0:17:54.90,0:17:58.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about individual, citable things there,
Dialogue: 0,0:17:59.64,0:18:01.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is a perfectly valid way
Dialogue: 0,0:18:01.59,0:18:04.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of dealing with questions\Nof notability and properties.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:04.35,0:18:06.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But the technology for doing that
Dialogue: 0,0:18:06.45,0:18:10.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is not yet relevant in any way.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:10.79,0:18:17.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We need a lot more work,\Nparticularly on federation in Wikibase
Dialogue: 0,0:18:17.54,0:18:19.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to make sure everything syncs neatly.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:20.12,0:18:25.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, until such time\Nas that would be a viable outcome,
Dialogue: 0,0:18:26.72,0:18:31.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the meantime, all of the things\Nthat would serve that kind of outcome
Dialogue: 0,0:18:32.53,0:18:35.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,also serve just improving\Nthe quality on Wikidata
Dialogue: 0,0:18:35.97,0:18:39.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and improving the links\Nwith Wikipedia and Wikisource.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:40.14,0:18:43.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The brand name is,\Nas far as I'm concerned, irrelevant.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:43.66,0:18:47.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's just the project to make\Nbetter footnotes.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:50.09,0:18:52.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(woman 2) Just a comment\Nin relation to your query
Dialogue: 0,0:18:52.45,0:18:57.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about satellite proposals
Dialogue: 0,0:18:57.73,0:18:59.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for satellite conferences--
Dialogue: 0,0:19:00.77,0:19:04.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't think you realize\Nthe level of ignorance
Dialogue: 0,0:19:04.01,0:19:08.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about Wiki-anything\Nfrom our country in New Zealand.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:08.35,0:19:09.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean, seriously.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:09.73,0:19:12.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,As an Australian, I recognize\Nthe ignorance of New Zealanders--
Dialogue: 0,0:19:12.50,0:19:15.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(laughter)
Dialogue: 0,0:19:17.75,0:19:21.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(woman 2) Oh, [inaudible], come on!
Dialogue: 0,0:19:26.99,0:19:31.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What I'm trying to say\Nis that if we have a satellite
Dialogue: 0,0:19:31.25,0:19:36.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or somehow organize\Na joint satellite conference,
Dialogue: 0,0:19:37.40,0:19:39.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from my perspective, what I'm looking for
Dialogue: 0,0:19:39.79,0:19:43.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is strategies and how\Nto engage the community.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:43.19,0:19:48.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They aren't even at the level of being--
Dialogue: 0,0:19:48.22,0:19:50.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they don't know enough\Nto even be enthusiastic
Dialogue: 0,0:19:50.68,0:19:52.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about Wikidata and WikiCite yet.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:52.100,0:19:57.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They look at it with a lot of skepticism,\Nif they're even aware of it.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:57.04,0:20:02.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I, in particular, want to be able\Nto have a meeting
Dialogue: 0,0:20:02.63,0:20:04.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in order to be able to learn from those.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:04.90,0:20:08.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We've already engaged\Nmore successfully with the community
Dialogue: 0,0:20:08.39,0:20:14.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to get a skill base in order to build\Nsome collaborations in New Zealand.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:15.12,0:20:18.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You're talking about extra people\Nto actually engage with.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:18.56,0:20:21.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I just want the core library community\Nto get on board,
Dialogue: 0,0:20:21.88,0:20:24.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then go the extra step.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:24.37,0:20:28.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's like I'm looking at you saying\Nthat we want to reach out
Dialogue: 0,0:20:28.28,0:20:29.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to other communities,
Dialogue: 0,0:20:29.66,0:20:32.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I'm saying, I just want\Nto reach out to {\i1}a{\i0} community.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:32.82,0:20:36.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, we're a lot further\Nbehind where we are.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:36.55,0:20:37.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, yeah.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:39.29,0:20:44.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I would not wish to pretend that WikiCite\Nand open bibliographic information
Dialogue: 0,0:20:44.94,0:20:50.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is the be-all and end-all of Wikidata\Nor Wikimedia outreach.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:51.21,0:20:53.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's a specific subset.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:53.11,0:20:59.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I would not wish to try\Nand make WikiCite a brand,
Dialogue: 0,0:21:00.48,0:21:04.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,appear to be overriding or replacing
Dialogue: 0,0:21:04.24,0:21:06.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or somehow getting in the way
Dialogue: 0,0:21:06.84,0:21:10.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of just general, good quality outreach\Nabout Wikimedia,
Dialogue: 0,0:21:11.46,0:21:16.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and working with libraries,\Nin general, and Wikidata,
Dialogue: 0,0:21:16.08,0:21:17.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,even more specific.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:17.18,0:21:19.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is a subset of Wikidata.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:19.39,0:21:22.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, particularly, for WikiCite\Nsatellite events,
Dialogue: 0,0:21:24.10,0:21:30.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't want to make it appear\Nlike there's a competition for Wiki--
Dialogue: 0,0:21:30.66,0:21:33.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so, everything about Wikidata now\Nhas to be called WikiCite-- no.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:33.98,0:21:37.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is a really quite niche--\Nin the scheme of things-- topic area,
Dialogue: 0,0:21:37.95,0:21:40.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,supporting general awareness-raising
Dialogue: 0,0:21:40.50,0:21:43.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about Wikidata\Nand open access information,
Dialogue: 0,0:21:43.04,0:21:47.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and Wikimedia is far beyond the scope
Dialogue: 0,0:21:47.66,0:21:52.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of this kind of particular\Nspecialist outreach.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:52.41,0:21:57.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that's not to say\Nthat it's not a good thing, too.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:59.30,0:22:01.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(woman 2) I just perceived--\Nsorry, one more comment--
Dialogue: 0,0:22:01.90,0:22:06.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,WikiCite as the possible inroad
Dialogue: 0,0:22:06.21,0:22:09.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to those at the wider community
Dialogue: 0,0:22:09.70,0:22:13.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for the people we want to get on board.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:13.32,0:22:16.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, to me, WikiCite is--\Nyes, it's a subset,
Dialogue: 0,0:22:16.51,0:22:22.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and really a much smaller set\Nof beliefs and information, et cetera--
Dialogue: 0,0:22:23.08,0:22:26.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I see it as an easy steppingstone\Nto get them addicted,
Dialogue: 0,0:22:26.84,0:22:28.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then you can open it up.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:29.36,0:22:30.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, yeah.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:35.90,0:22:38.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(assistant) We have just time\Nfor one short question.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:41.06,0:22:45.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, one of you have another question\Nfor the WikiCite team?
Dialogue: 0,0:22:47.97,0:22:49.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thank you for sharing\Nthis feedback with us.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:49.75,0:22:52.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Oh, somebody has a question.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:58.50,0:23:01.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(assistant) Which one of you wants to...
Dialogue: 0,0:23:06.03,0:23:07.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(woman 3) Hi, thank you so much for this.
Dialogue: 0,0:23:07.73,0:23:11.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was just wondering,\Nis there ever going to be
Dialogue: 0,0:23:11.99,0:23:17.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a paring of the bibliography\Nused in Wikipedia articles and WikiCite?
Dialogue: 0,0:23:17.87,0:23:22.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Are you planning to move\Nall those references and parse them
Dialogue: 0,0:23:22.83,0:23:27.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so that we can do some analyses\Nof which references we're using
Dialogue: 0,0:23:27.45,0:23:30.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the Wikipedia articles--
Dialogue: 0,0:23:30.25,0:23:33.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and when you create an article\Nin another language
Dialogue: 0,0:23:33.81,0:23:38.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just to get suggestions of this,\Nare the references that have been used,
Dialogue: 0,0:23:38.51,0:23:39.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,kind of like that.
Dialogue: 0,0:23:39.86,0:23:45.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I know one of the short-term goals\Nof WikiCite is to have all citations
Dialogue: 0,0:23:45.14,0:23:48.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in WikiProjects represented in Wikidata.
Dialogue: 0,0:23:48.50,0:23:50.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Currently, there's not\Nan automatic pipeline
Dialogue: 0,0:23:50.61,0:23:53.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that keeps that updated,
Dialogue: 0,0:23:53.04,0:23:55.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but that's definitely one\Nof our primary goals.
Dialogue: 0,0:23:57.41,0:24:01.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And ultimately, there\Nis not specific support
Dialogue: 0,0:24:01.27,0:24:07.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the developer community\Nfor that kind of activity in particular.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:07.83,0:24:10.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's on the interests\Nof individual community members
Dialogue: 0,0:24:10.47,0:24:14.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to do exports-- like all this work\Nthat's been demonstrated
Dialogue: 0,0:24:14.84,0:24:17.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's not from the foundation--
Dialogue: 0,0:24:17.27,0:24:20.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,people doing individual work\Non their interests.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:20.52,0:24:23.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, that could be a good satellite event
Dialogue: 0,0:24:23.32,0:24:26.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to try and explore that kind of work.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:26.44,0:24:31.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Getting it a good pipeline\Nso that you can make references
Dialogue: 0,0:24:31.30,0:24:36.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in Wikipedia's easily hook\Ninto Wikidata items,
Dialogue: 0,0:24:36.44,0:24:38.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,multilingual, et cetera--
Dialogue: 0,0:24:38.14,0:24:41.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,does not yet exist technologically,
Dialogue: 0,0:24:41.27,0:24:45.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and certain languages\Nhave concerns about that.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:45.88,0:24:50.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The larger the Wikipedia language,\Nthe more defensive they are
Dialogue: 0,0:24:50.14,0:24:53.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about using Wikidata directly.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:54.40,0:24:56.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But that'll come.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:57.72,0:25:00.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah, I was just going to say\Nwhen Liam's finished with that--
Dialogue: 0,0:25:00.27,0:25:03.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that it's strictly citations or something\Nthat are very much within scope,
Dialogue: 0,0:25:03.29,0:25:07.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and what we would like to work for,\Nbut that needs community to build this,
Dialogue: 0,0:25:07.55,0:25:09.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to take on that challenge, I think.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:10.35,0:25:15.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And also, we need to be doing the outreach\Nto the Wikipedians to show them
Dialogue: 0,0:25:15.20,0:25:18.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that we can provide good\Nquality data consistently.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:22.18,0:25:24.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(assistant) We are running out of time.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:24.16,0:25:27.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, if someone has another question
Dialogue: 0,0:25:27.66,0:25:33.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think that these nice people\Nwill ask you privately after.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:33.62,0:25:36.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, it's time for us,\Nfor the last edition,
Dialogue: 0,0:25:36.45,0:25:39.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we are welcoming on stage.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:39.96,0:25:44.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Jean-Fred, Envel, and...
Dialogue: 0,0:25:44.01,0:25:46.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(applause)