[Script Info] Title: [Events] Format: Layer, Start, End, Style, Name, MarginL, MarginR, MarginV, Effect, Text Dialogue: 0,0:00:00.15,0:00:05.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- I'm hungry, I'm hungry, I'm hungry...\N- No way, are you? Dialogue: 0,0:00:06.45,0:00:09.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- A little bit.\N- Chorizo? Dialogue: 0,0:00:09.53,0:00:14.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- I don't know, is there any left?\N- Yes, do you want it or not? Dialogue: 0,0:00:14.67,0:00:16.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Yes, but also for you and grandpa. Dialogue: 0,0:00:17.69,0:00:20.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Yes, there is, don't worry, I don't want it.\N- Ah, that's true. Dialogue: 0,0:00:24.82,0:00:27.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- I'm hungry, I'm hungry... Dialogue: 0,0:00:29.56,0:00:32.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- We went to the library today, at school.\N- What? Dialogue: 0,0:00:32.48,0:00:34.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- We went to the library... to the media library.\N- When? Dialogue: 0,0:00:34.76,0:00:37.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Today... In the morning.\N- Oh, in the morning? Dialogue: 0,0:00:37.27,0:00:37.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Yes-\N- And? Dialogue: 0,0:00:37.96,0:00:42.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- I got a lend of a book.\N- For the trip? Dialogue: 0,0:00:43.44,0:00:46.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Maybe yes, well, yes...\N- Ok, very well, yes... Dialogue: 0,0:00:48.72,0:00:53.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Its title is 'Grandpa and grandma at the summercamp'. Dialogue: 0,0:00:54.49,0:01:00.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Let's see, Garikoitz, here is yours... Grandpa doesn't eat chorizo. Dialogue: 0,0:01:01.08,0:01:04.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- No, I don't want it... I don't want it. Dialogue: 0,0:01:07.05,0:01:09.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- How is it? Is it hot? Dialogue: 0,0:01:11.30,0:01:14.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Gari, can you tell us where \Nand who you live with? Dialogue: 0,0:01:15.56,0:01:21.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Yes, well... I live in Biriatu with my grandparents. Dialogue: 0,0:01:21.58,0:01:24.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Surrounded by forests and montains. Are you \Nhappy here? Dialogue: 0,0:01:24.80,0:01:28.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Yes... yes.\N- Why do you live with your grandparents? Dialogue: 0,0:01:28.62,0:01:33.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Because my mother and father \Nwere in prison, and when I was 3 Dialogue: 0,0:01:33.68,0:01:35.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,my uncle took me to Biriatu Dialogue: 0,0:01:35.97,0:01:38.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to live with my grandparents. Dialogue: 0,0:01:38.72,0:01:41.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Have you always known \Nyour parents in prison? Dialogue: 0,0:01:41.48,0:01:44.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Yes \N- And how is that? Dialogue: 0,0:01:45.21,0:01:49.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Well, a bit sad. Dialogue: 0,0:01:51.00,0:01:56.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- When I see them I am very happy, \Nbut at the farewell a little bit sad. Dialogue: 0,0:01:56.92,0:01:59.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Enjoy!\N- Thank you. Dialogue: 0,0:02:01.17,0:02:08.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Later, I'll tell you where the ID \Nand the rest of the things are Dialogue: 0,0:02:08.47,0:02:11.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the backpack, okay? \NSo you can tell your auntie. Dialogue: 0,0:02:12.43,0:02:18.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- In your everyday life, in what situations \Ndo you notice that your parents \Nare in prison? Dialogue: 0,0:02:18.66,0:02:22.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What things do you have to change \Nbecause your parents are in prison? Dialogue: 0,0:02:23.19,0:02:25.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Well... Dialogue: 0,0:02:27.72,0:02:28.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- It's ok Gari. Dialogue: 0,0:02:28.82,0:02:31.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Oh and... maybe my homework for the journey. Dialogue: 0,0:02:32.23,0:02:33.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- I told you earlier...\N- Yes. Dialogue: 0,0:02:34.05,0:02:37.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,...to take them... to put them in the backpack. Dialogue: 0,0:02:38.71,0:02:40.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Yes, we'll put them in now. Dialogue: 0,0:02:40.68,0:02:44.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- I told you to take your homework with you,\Nso you can do them with Larraitz. Dialogue: 0,0:02:45.91,0:02:47.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- What homework do you have? Dialogue: 0,0:02:48.40,0:02:49.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Maths. Dialogue: 0,0:02:49.33,0:02:52.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Maths? That's easy! Dialogue: 0,0:02:52.13,0:02:52.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Yes. Dialogue: 0,0:02:52.70,0:02:56.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- But I told you earlier, to take it, didn't I? Dialogue: 0,0:02:56.09,0:02:57.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Yeaaaah! Dialogue: 0,0:03:00.54,0:03:03.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Errrm... I'm sorry, could you \Nask me the question again? Dialogue: 0,0:03:03.45,0:03:04.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- I can't remember it... Dialogue: 0,0:03:05.28,0:03:10.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Yes, we’d like to know what it is like \Nto have your parents in prison. Dialogue: 0,0:03:11.37,0:03:16.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Well, sometimes you feel bad, Dialogue: 0,0:03:16.82,0:03:25.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,other times not that much. I think about \Nthem all the time, and I love them very much. Dialogue: 0,0:03:27.20,0:03:31.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Where were you born? \N- In Granada. In prison. Dialogue: 0,0:03:32.74,0:03:40.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- So, usually otherwise, \Nwhenever I finish I will... Dialogue: 0,0:03:42.21,0:03:46.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Mikel is very nice, \Nand sometimes we speak Dialogue: 0,0:03:47.18,0:03:52.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or play with the kids, with Jare and the rest.\N- With Jare, yes, she is very kind! Dialogue: 0,0:03:52.99,0:04:01.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Yes, that wee girl, yes... And ask \NMikel to... connect to the wifi Dialogue: 0,0:04:01.12,0:04:05.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in your tablet.\N- Yes, sure... yes, yes. Dialogue: 0,0:04:05.94,0:04:10.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- So you can play a bit with the tablet.\N- Yes. Dialogue: 0,0:04:10.84,0:04:17.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- If you feel a little bored or whatever...\N- Yes, or to listen to music as well. Dialogue: 0,0:04:17.96,0:04:24.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- That’s it! Or watch videos, no?\N- Benito Lertxundi, or Huntza.\N(Basque bands) Dialogue: 0,0:04:24.82,0:04:30.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Yes, that's it.\N- Oh yes! Yes, there's a film at night. Dialogue: 0,0:04:32.22,0:04:40.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- How many prisons have you visited?\N- 7 or... 5, i’m not really sure. Dialogue: 0,0:04:42.17,0:04:45.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- How long were you in prison?\N- 3 years. Dialogue: 0,0:04:45.40,0:04:46.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- 3 years?\N- 3 years. Dialogue: 0,0:04:47.11,0:04:49.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- I've got you the biggest one.\N- Granma, I know how to cut it down, don't worry. Dialogue: 0,0:04:49.89,0:04:51.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Yes? So go, do it yourself. Dialogue: 0,0:04:52.78,0:04:57.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- When there are changes from one prison to another,\Nwhen your parents are moved to another prison... Dialogue: 0,0:04:57.67,0:05:06.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How is it like?\NIt's bad. If only they were moved closer Dialogue: 0,0:05:06.29,0:05:11.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But they don’t bring them closer to here… Dialogue: 0,0:05:12.09,0:05:13.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They take them further away, and it’s worse. Dialogue: 0,0:05:14.25,0:05:18.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Have all those changes always been to take them even further away? Dialogue: 0,0:05:18.47,0:05:19.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Yes. Dialogue: 0,0:05:21.08,0:05:25.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- So, one day I was with Aitzol, \Nmy older cousin, and we arrived Dialogue: 0,0:05:25.74,0:05:32.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to "El Cepo" to have breakfast, right? \NAnd well, later on with the family, \Nthe aunt and so on, Dialogue: 0,0:05:32.03,0:05:38.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they said 'How about the journey?' \Nand cousin Aitzol said Dialogue: 0,0:05:38.46,0:05:42.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'See, we were having breakfast in Cepo', \Nand Gari... was asleep! Dialogue: 0,0:06:48.44,0:06:51.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Welcome. Today we’re taking the bus \Nto go to Cadiz. Dialogue: 0,0:06:51.27,0:06:53.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A 2000 kilometres round trip. Dialogue: 0,0:06:53.87,0:06:57.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There, we will join a child who has both \Nof his parents in prison. Dialogue: 0,0:06:57.64,0:07:02.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In fact, Gari was born in a prison, \Nand he spent the first 3 years of his life there. Dialogue: 0,0:07:13.47,0:07:16.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Do you often say \Nthat you were born in prison? Dialogue: 0,0:07:17.25,0:07:18.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Yes. Dialogue: 0,0:07:18.23,0:07:22.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- And, what do people say?\N- That it’s very weird. Dialogue: 0,0:07:32.41,0:07:37.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He’s 9 now. He lives in Biriatu,\Nand he visits his parents once a month. Dialogue: 0,0:07:48.51,0:07:52.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Gari is not the only child with a backpack \Nwe'll meet today in Ur Handitan. Dialogue: 0,0:07:52.17,0:07:55.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Should you like to make this trip with us,\Nwelcome! Dialogue: 0,0:08:06.72,0:08:09.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Malen, you've always met your dad in jail.\N- Yes. Dialogue: 0,0:08:09.82,0:08:13.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- How many years has he been in prison?\N- 20. Dialogue: 0,0:08:14.04,0:08:16.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- 20 years, and how old are you?\N- 18. Dialogue: 0,0:08:17.10,0:08:24.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- He phones Aiur twice a week, \Nthe same as me, \Nbecause he can make 8 calls. Dialogue: 0,0:08:24.23,0:08:26.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We cannot phone him... Dialogue: 0,0:08:26.57,0:08:30.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- During those car trips...\N- Yes. Dialogue: 0,0:08:30.09,0:08:31.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- What do you think about? Dialogue: 0,0:08:31.65,0:08:35.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- About when we are going to arrive, \Nwhether he is fine... Dialogue: 0,0:08:37.50,0:08:41.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Why we must fill a part \Nof their sanction... Dialogue: 0,0:08:41.09,0:08:47.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Why we are forced\Nto make so many kilometres... Dialogue: 0,0:08:59.04,0:09:01.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Do you feel well treated in prison? Dialogue: 0,0:09:02.09,0:09:06.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- It depends. Sometimes you are treated well,\Nother times they're too strict... Dialogue: 0,0:09:07.90,0:09:10.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- How would you describe a jail? Dialogue: 0,0:09:11.25,0:09:14.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- So, dirty and old.\N- Yeah? Dialogue: 0,0:09:15.18,0:09:17.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Dark, there's no natural light. Dialogue: 0,0:09:18.08,0:09:19.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Cold and dark. Dialogue: 0,0:09:29.41,0:09:32.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Ur handitan \NCHILDREN WITH A BACKPACK Dialogue: 0,0:09:42.77,0:09:43.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Gari, wait! Dialogue: 0,0:09:44.80,0:09:47.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- That's it... Have a good time, ok? Dialogue: 0,0:09:48.47,0:09:50.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Ok, be calm! Dialogue: 0,0:09:50.41,0:09:52.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The bus will depart from Errenteria. Dialogue: 0,0:09:52.71,0:09:54.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Today Gari is going with aunt Txipi. Dialogue: 0,0:09:56.44,0:09:58.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Come on...\N- Regards! Dialogue: 0,0:09:58.54,0:10:00.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Bye bye! \N- Goodbye! Dialogue: 0,0:10:00.45,0:10:04.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Help Maite, help your grandmother, yes. Dialogue: 0,0:10:05.01,0:10:07.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Auntie, the homework, \Nthe homework, yes yes yes... Dialogue: 0,0:10:07.47,0:10:11.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Do you have them ? You didn't \Nbring anything, did you?\NYou'll do them on Sunday at home, ok? Dialogue: 0,0:10:11.37,0:10:12.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- No, no, I brought some. Dialogue: 0,0:10:12.73,0:10:14.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Did you bring your homework?\N- Yes. Dialogue: 0,0:10:14.33,0:10:17.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- And where will we do them, in Algeciras?\N- No... Dialogue: 0,0:10:17.77,0:10:19.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- You have everything \Nin your backpack.\N- Yes. Dialogue: 0,0:10:19.89,0:10:21.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Yes, yes, of course. Dialogue: 0,0:10:23.27,0:10:28.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Gari, where were you born?\N- In Granada, in jail. Dialogue: 0,0:10:30.22,0:10:34.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- And then you had to move\Nto another prison, right? Dialogue: 0,0:10:35.32,0:10:38.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- I think so, in a little while, \Nfrom there to Valencia. Dialogue: 0,0:10:40.51,0:10:44.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- And that, for example..., you tell people\Nyou were born in prison? Dialogue: 0,0:10:45.85,0:10:46.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Yes. Dialogue: 0,0:10:47.91,0:10:52.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- And how do you say it?\N- As a curiosity, as an oddity... Dialogue: 0,0:10:52.34,0:10:53.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- As an oddity. Dialogue: 0,0:10:54.00,0:10:55.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Do you tell your friends about it?\N- Yes, I do. Dialogue: 0,0:10:56.65,0:11:01.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- And what do they say?\N- That it's so weird... Dialogue: 0,0:11:03.28,0:11:05.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- That it's weird.\N- Yes. Dialogue: 0,0:11:05.38,0:11:07.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- And do they ask a lot of questions?\N- Yes, a lot. Dialogue: 0,0:11:09.00,0:11:10.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- What do they want to know? Dialogue: 0,0:11:11.17,0:11:16.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Once and again, how I feel,\Nhow I make the trips, Dialogue: 0,0:11:16.37,0:11:19.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how many kilometres, and so on. Dialogue: 0,0:11:19.81,0:11:24.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- You said that being born \Nin jail is an oddity... Dialogue: 0,0:11:24.19,0:11:24.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Yes. Dialogue: 0,0:11:24.72,0:11:27.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- What kind of oddity? \NHow do you see it? Dialogue: 0,0:11:28.88,0:11:29.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Sad. Dialogue: 0,0:11:30.06,0:11:31.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Sad?\N- Yes. Dialogue: 0,0:11:36.02,0:11:38.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Yes, yes, yes, I have my homework. Dialogue: 0,0:11:41.09,0:11:42.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well... on the bus. Dialogue: 0,0:11:45.18,0:11:46.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For Monday Dialogue: 0,0:11:47.63,0:11:53.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Sometimes, sometimes he calls \Nwhen we're not expecting it Dialogue: 0,0:11:54.21,0:11:58.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and some other times we're \Nwaiting for his calls. Dialogue: 0,0:11:58.75,0:12:00.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Do you have the chance \Nto talk to your dad on the phone? Dialogue: 0,0:12:00.92,0:12:03.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Yes, for 5 minutes, but yes. Dialogue: 0,0:12:05.31,0:12:07.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Eeeh, on weekends. Dialogue: 0,0:12:10.22,0:12:11.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Here it's rainy too... Dialogue: 0,0:12:15.10,0:12:18.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,...and otherwise umbrella and coat. Dialogue: 0,0:12:22.34,0:12:25.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- How do you communicate with your daddy? Dialogue: 0,0:12:25.36,0:12:27.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- By phone, letter and visits. Dialogue: 0,0:12:28.33,0:12:30.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- How long are the phone calls, \Ndo you know? Dialogue: 0,0:12:30.32,0:12:32.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- 5 minutes.\N- 5 minutes long? Dialogue: 0,0:12:32.77,0:12:34.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- And are they short or long for you? Dialogue: 0,0:12:37.18,0:12:38.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Short Dialogue: 0,0:12:38.49,0:12:40.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- So, you find them short?\N- Yes. Dialogue: 0,0:12:40.08,0:12:42.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- The call is suddenly cut off, isn't it?\N- Yes. Dialogue: 0,0:12:42.31,0:12:45.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Dad says 'It's gonna be cut off!\NGonna cut off!' And... It's cut off. Dialogue: 0,0:12:45.09,0:12:47.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Yes.\N- And how do you feel in that moment? Dialogue: 0,0:12:47.33,0:12:49.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"I haven't told him yet what \Nhappened to me yesterday!" Dialogue: 0,0:12:49.87,0:12:51.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- You often tell me that...\N- Yes. Dialogue: 0,0:12:53.53,0:13:03.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'Is it over? Damn... I love you!\NYes, cheers, I love you, bye!' Dialogue: 0,0:13:04.92,0:13:06.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'Is it over already?'\NYes. Dialogue: 0,0:13:07.09,0:13:10.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- What does he say? \N- Is it raining there also, in Algeciras? Dialogue: 0,0:13:10.28,0:13:12.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Yes.\N- Yes? Jesus! Dialogue: 0,0:13:12.97,0:13:15.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Do you know what their daily life is like\Ninside the prison? Dialogue: 0,0:13:15.79,0:13:18.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- No.\N- Do they tell you or... Dialogue: 0,0:13:19.79,0:13:25.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You don't ask them?\N- Sometimes... but I don't know very much. Dialogue: 0,0:13:26.64,0:13:36.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- What have they told you?\N- To be honest... they haven't told me much. Dialogue: 0,0:13:39.10,0:13:42.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Don't worry... Why do you think\Nthey haven't told you? Dialogue: 0,0:13:43.31,0:13:50.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Because for me it is not...\NBecause I wouldn't like it... That's why. Dialogue: 0,0:13:58.18,0:14:03.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Yes, thank you. \N- Wait, where is grandpa? Dialogue: 0,0:14:04.35,0:14:07.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Look, here they are, look!\N- Hi! Dialogue: 0,0:14:07.62,0:14:09.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Hello!\N- Hi there! Dialogue: 0,0:14:11.41,0:14:14.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,After stopping in Donostia, \Nthere is another stop in Bilbo. Dialogue: 0,0:14:14.64,0:14:18.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Gari's other grandfather is there,\Nready to greet his grandson. Dialogue: 0,0:14:18.70,0:14:22.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Now, in this interview... Dialogue: 0,0:14:22.36,0:14:26.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's true that you feel down\Nand that all your emotions get out, Dialogue: 0,0:14:27.12,0:14:33.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but otherwise, in your daily life, \Nwe see you as a strong boy. Dialogue: 0,0:14:33.95,0:14:37.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Yes.\N- And happy... How do you do that? Dialogue: 0,0:14:38.78,0:14:46.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- I think that they will come (home)\Nsome day... and I stay calm. Dialogue: 0,0:14:48.90,0:14:53.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- What helps you moving forward?\N- Grandma and grandpa. Dialogue: 0,0:14:57.32,0:14:59.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Hello!\N- Hi! Dialogue: 0,0:14:59.08,0:15:02.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Tell him.\N- Hello Ixone, hello! Dialogue: 0,0:15:02.55,0:15:04.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Hello, how are you?\N- Fine. Dialogue: 0,0:15:07.20,0:15:10.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Will we sit down here?\N- No, sorry, you have to sit in the back.... Dialogue: 0,0:15:10.69,0:15:13.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That one has to be free.\NThat's why we are here... Dialogue: 0,0:15:25.12,0:15:28.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- I have the championship\Non Saturday and Sundays, right? Dialogue: 0,0:15:28.84,0:15:31.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Yes.\N- And I can play and all sometimes, Dialogue: 0,0:15:31.79,0:15:34.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but other times I can't play Dialogue: 0,0:15:34.08,0:15:36.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because I have to come\Nto visit mom and dad. Dialogue: 0,0:15:36.21,0:15:39.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But of course, it makes sense,\Nthere will be another championships too. Dialogue: 0,0:15:40.25,0:15:43.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'd rather see mom and dad\Nthan play the championship. Dialogue: 0,0:15:43.75,0:15:49.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- I was always asking when he was going to come.\NAnd I had a rather critical time... Dialogue: 0,0:15:50.50,0:15:56.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was down or... and mom and dad, to calm me,\Nthey told me that dad would come to the next Dialogue: 0,0:15:56.51,0:16:02.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,verse championship with me.\NI accepted it happily but later on Dialogue: 0,0:16:02.86,0:16:08.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I realized it was a lie\Nto make me calm down. Dialogue: 0,0:16:08.56,0:16:12.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Your mom told you that your dad was going to be\Nin the next verse championship. Dialogue: 0,0:16:12.30,0:16:15.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Yes, with me.\N- But... He couldn't go to the last Dialogue: 0,0:16:15.30,0:16:16.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,verse championship.\N- No. Dialogue: 0,0:16:17.21,0:16:25.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- What do you think during those car trips?\N- When we'll arrive, whether he's gonna be ok... Dialogue: 0,0:16:27.11,0:16:30.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Why are you worried about your father? Dialogue: 0,0:16:30.38,0:16:37.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Well... he gets sick often. Dialogue: 0,0:16:37.80,0:16:41.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Does he tell you... the difficulties\Nhe is going through there, or not? Dialogue: 0,0:16:41.76,0:16:44.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Sometimes yes, and other times no. Dialogue: 0,0:16:45.19,0:16:48.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Do you think he doesn't tell you\Neverything, in order to protect you? Dialogue: 0,0:16:48.96,0:16:52.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- I don't know... but he doesn't say everything. Dialogue: 0,0:16:53.56,0:16:54.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Hize, interview. Dialogue: 0,0:16:55.40,0:16:57.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In Murcia, in prison... Dialogue: 0,0:16:57.64,0:17:03.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- We agreed on the phone\Nto watch cartoons at the same time Dialogue: 0,0:17:03.18,0:17:05.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and to look at the moon at the same time too. Dialogue: 0,0:17:05.84,0:17:09.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,At the same time to watch the cartoons\Nand look at the moon. Dialogue: 0,0:17:09.54,0:17:11.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-Oh! You watch the same cartoons then, Dialogue: 0,0:17:11.86,0:17:13.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at the same time.\N- Yes! Dialogue: 0,0:17:13.90,0:17:17.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- That's almost as if you were together! Dialogue: 0,0:17:17.22,0:17:23.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And looking at the moon at the same time,\Nthat's almost like being together too! Dialogue: 0,0:17:23.84,0:17:26.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- He makes two calls to Aiur every week, Dialogue: 0,0:17:26.84,0:17:32.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and another two to me, because he has\N8 phone calls.\NWe can't phone him... Dialogue: 0,0:17:50.28,0:17:53.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- And your friends know where\Nyour dad and mom are, don't they? Dialogue: 0,0:17:54.25,0:17:57.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Yes, indeed.\N- And your teachers as well? Dialogue: 0,0:17:57.09,0:17:58.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Yes, they do.\N- And so... Do they understand it? Dialogue: 0,0:17:58.90,0:17:59.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Yes.\N- Ok. Dialogue: 0,0:18:00.49,0:18:02.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Do you speak with the teachers about this?\NDo they ask about it? Dialogue: 0,0:18:02.76,0:18:04.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- No. Dialogue: 0,0:18:05.36,0:18:07.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- I have had a few problems, Dialogue: 0,0:18:07.75,0:18:10.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when the teacher knows... Dialogue: 0,0:18:10.99,0:18:15.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It seems... I don't know if it's fear or...\NA bit of worry, and then the teacher changes Dialogue: 0,0:18:15.32,0:18:19.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the relationship with you. Dialogue: 0,0:18:19.17,0:18:23.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Your teacher knows a very intimate \Nthing of your life... Dialogue: 0,0:18:23.01,0:18:26.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now they will know, if they're watching! Dialogue: 0,0:18:26.39,0:18:30.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Depending on how the teacher is, he/she \Nmight say: Dialogue: 0,0:18:30.84,0:18:36.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'Oh, poor little child' or something...\NAnd that's a bit like... Dialogue: 0,0:18:36.25,0:18:39.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't like that. Dialogue: 0,0:18:39.25,0:18:43.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- When Nuria, your teacher, proposed to\Ngo and see your parents in prison, Dialogue: 0,0:18:44.16,0:18:45.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what did you think? Dialogue: 0,0:18:45.47,0:18:52.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Yes, I thought it was a good idea\Nand I felt happy about it. Dialogue: 0,0:18:52.33,0:18:57.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-And I remember when we were coming\Nfrom the first visit, I said... Dialogue: 0,0:18:57.92,0:19:00.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When we were sitting in the circle \Nfirst thing in the morning I said: Dialogue: 0,0:19:00.36,0:19:04.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'You don't know how beautiful\NHaizea's mother is... Dialogue: 0,0:19:05.12,0:19:08.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and what precious rings she has,\Nand the beautiful necklace she has and...' Dialogue: 0,0:19:09.28,0:19:14.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And when I said that -I still remember\Nthe look in the children's eyes... Dialogue: 0,0:19:14.99,0:19:18.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And from that moment on, the kid started Dialogue: 0,0:19:18.72,0:19:23.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,talking more naturally \Nabout the situation. \N Dialogue: 0,0:19:24.25,0:19:28.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Your teacher has told us that when you were younger Dialogue: 0,0:19:28.54,0:19:33.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the other kids spoke \Nabout their parents, you used to get sad. Dialogue: 0,0:19:33.48,0:19:34.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Yes.\N- Why? Dialogue: 0,0:19:35.20,0:19:44.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Because their parents are free\Nand mine are not, and then I get sad... Dialogue: 0,0:19:45.62,0:19:52.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- When Haizea got into the classroom,\NI thought 'I meet the other parents... Dialogue: 0,0:19:52.16,0:19:57.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I talk about the kids with them.\NI want to be with these parents too.' Dialogue: 0,0:19:57.44,0:20:00.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How come am I not going to tell\Nthese parents about Dialogue: 0,0:20:00.77,0:20:05.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how their kid is doing at school?,\Nor what wee prank she is doing, Dialogue: 0,0:20:06.15,0:20:10.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or how she is behaving? Dialogue: 0,0:20:11.28,0:20:18.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- The other kids have meetings\Nbetween the teachers and the parents. Dialogue: 0,0:20:18.79,0:20:21.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Yes.\N- And you also have them... Dialogue: 0,0:20:21.87,0:20:22.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Yes. Dialogue: 0,0:20:23.88,0:20:26.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- What was the reaction of the parents? Dialogue: 0,0:20:26.10,0:20:32.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Look, as a mother, I perhaps...\NWhen I entered there and I saw Dialogue: 0,0:20:32.16,0:20:38.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the two of them together? \NThe look of the mother was incredible... Dialogue: 0,0:20:40.81,0:20:44.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- You won't ever forget that \Nfirst visit, right?\N-No, no way, never. Dialogue: 0,0:20:46.26,0:20:52.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Do you ever feel bad \Nor down at school Dialogue: 0,0:20:52.16,0:20:58.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and your teacher is there to help you?\N- Yes, sometimes I feel sad, Dialogue: 0,0:20:58.74,0:21:01.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I get out of the class,\Nand Nuria (the teacher) sees me. Dialogue: 0,0:21:03.19,0:21:05.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- So you have her support?\N- Yes. Dialogue: 0,0:21:06.72,0:21:12.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Has someone ever told you something about the special\Nattention you give to Haizea's parents? Dialogue: 0,0:21:12.73,0:21:16.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- No, never. Dialogue: 0,0:21:16.41,0:21:20.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- I am sure it's not easy to keep\Nan ethical distance, right? Dialogue: 0,0:21:21.53,0:21:25.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-No, it is not.\NIt is not easy. Dialogue: 0,0:21:25.92,0:21:28.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's not easy at all.\N- Why is that? Dialogue: 0,0:21:32.22,0:21:33.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Well, I am not really sure... Dialogue: 0,0:21:36.05,0:21:41.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sometimes you have to draw a line between\Nwhat you think and what you'd say. Dialogue: 0,0:21:41.10,0:21:45.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You have to draw the line, right? Dialogue: 0,0:21:45.68,0:21:50.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,At the end of the day, I'm a teacher and\NI can't mix things, right? Dialogue: 0,0:21:50.58,0:21:55.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There has to be a line between\Nyour personal stuff, your experiencies, Dialogue: 0,0:21:55.18,0:21:58.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and what you feel for that family,\Nif you know what I mean... Dialogue: 0,0:21:58.57,0:22:01.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- What would you like to be when \Nyou grow up?\N- I dont know. Dialogue: 0,0:22:01.70,0:22:03.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- A cook maybe?\N- Maybe, I'm not sure. Dialogue: 0,0:22:03.79,0:22:05.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- What then?\N- I don't know. Dialogue: 0,0:22:05.45,0:22:08.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- A musician maybe?\N- Yes, maybe. Dialogue: 0,0:22:08.52,0:22:11.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I like Huntza very much,\Nto listen to it... Yeah. Dialogue: 0,0:22:11.96,0:22:13.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Do you?\N- Yes, I like it a lot. Dialogue: 0,0:22:14.33,0:22:16.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And Anje Duhalde.\N- Oh, really? Dialogue: 0,0:22:16.24,0:22:17.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yes, yes. And... Dialogue: 0,0:22:18.08,0:22:22.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- So mummy and daddy will be happy\Nif you get good marks. Dialogue: 0,0:22:22.08,0:22:23.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Yes.\N- Very good! Dialogue: 0,0:22:23.27,0:22:26.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Well, I guess.\NI'll tell them tomorrow. Dialogue: 0,0:22:26.14,0:22:27.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Of course!\N- They don't know yet. Dialogue: 0,0:22:28.33,0:22:58.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(The song 'Malen', Ken Zazpi) Dialogue: 0,0:23:03.02,0:23:09.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Will you tell us about the story of\Nthe song 'Malen' by Ken Zazpi? Dialogue: 0,0:23:09.75,0:23:16.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- It was written by my mum when she was pregnant\Nwith me, and they named it after me. Dialogue: 0,0:23:16.31,0:23:17.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- What is it about? Dialogue: 0,0:23:17.92,0:23:23.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- About a trip to the prison, isn't it?\NThe trip, and then... 40 minutes. Dialogue: 0,0:23:35.14,0:23:39.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- When I was a child, for example,\NI didn't like the song. I was ashamed... Dialogue: 0,0:23:39.30,0:23:43.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We used to go to see Ken Zazpi\Nlife, on a concert... Dialogue: 0,0:23:43.30,0:23:47.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I'd hide myself, ashamed,\Nwhen they'd play that song, Malen. Dialogue: 0,0:23:47.50,0:23:53.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because they'd say, from the microphone\N'Today Malen, the kid, is among us\N Dialogue: 0,0:23:53.10,0:23:56.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and this is for her blablabla...'\NAnd I was so ashamed I'd hide. But now... Dialogue: 0,0:23:56.74,0:24:01.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now I like it\Nwhen they play it. Dialogue: 0,0:24:28.29,0:24:32.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- The song says that the thick glass\Nwon't take your smile away. Dialogue: 0,0:24:32.77,0:24:33.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It hasn't taken yours. Dialogue: 0,0:24:34.00,0:24:38.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- No, I don't know. You keep smiling, don't you? Dialogue: 0,0:24:46.51,0:24:50.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Malen, 18 years old,\Nshe hasn't met her father outside the prison. Dialogue: 0,0:24:50.56,0:24:54.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He is in Almeria. He was in Jaen before.\NSo he is even farther now. Dialogue: 0,0:24:54.100,0:24:58.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What are Malen's memories\Nfrom her childhood like? Dialogue: 0,0:24:59.04,0:25:04.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Do you have the feeling of having missed\Nthe best years you could have had with your dad? Dialogue: 0,0:25:05.89,0:25:10.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- The best moments I had with my dad\Nwere in Jaen, and... Dialogue: 0,0:25:10.72,0:25:16.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I played with him there, had our moments\Non our visits, and all of them... Dialogue: 0,0:25:16.51,0:25:19.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Those are my best memories.\NAt the end of the day... Dialogue: 0,0:25:19.89,0:25:24.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They aren't like other children's:\N'I've gone to the park with my daddy, Dialogue: 0,0:25:24.26,0:25:27.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it was the best day of my life!'\NWell, mines are like... Dialogue: 0,0:25:28.03,0:25:33.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Those years,\Nthose years in Jaen. Dialogue: 0,0:25:33.22,0:25:35.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They were tough years for him, but... Dialogue: 0,0:25:35.45,0:25:39.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have good memories\Nof those years, yes. Dialogue: 0,0:25:47.76,0:25:50.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- I'm very good when I'm with him,\Nbut when I have to leave... Dialogue: 0,0:25:50.69,0:25:53.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Saying good bye is sad,\Nbecause you hug him and then Dialogue: 0,0:25:53.98,0:25:56.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you don't see him in a month.\N- I know, I know. Dialogue: 0,0:25:56.86,0:25:59.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- It's like... nothing until January! Dialogue: 0,0:26:00.27,0:26:06.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Can you see any evolution in your personality,\Nyour questions, your concerns...? Dialogue: 0,0:26:07.59,0:26:11.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Well, the older I get, the more\Naware of the situation I am... Dialogue: 0,0:26:11.32,0:26:15.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And about the reality, well... Dialogue: 0,0:26:15.78,0:26:17.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have more questions too: Dialogue: 0,0:26:17.57,0:26:22.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Why do we have to be punished too? Dialogue: 0,0:26:23.12,0:26:29.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Why are we forced to travel so many kilometres? Dialogue: 0,0:26:29.45,0:26:37.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Do you think some people want the dispersion policy\Nto be used against you too, as a part of the sanction of your dad? Dialogue: 0,0:26:38.18,0:26:43.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Yes, because he could serve his time\Nin Castellon or Cordoba (Spanish State), Dialogue: 0,0:26:43.80,0:26:47.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or in Zaballa (in the Basque Country).\NIt's just revenge. Dialogue: 0,0:26:58.82,0:27:04.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- To know that your relatives will spend\N8 hours on the road and... Dialogue: 0,0:27:04.98,0:27:08.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,...and then they have to go back for another 8 hours,\Nno matter the weather... Dialogue: 0,0:27:12.41,0:27:16.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,To know that they're doing\Nsuch a thing because of him... Dialogue: 0,0:27:16.98,0:27:22.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That, that's a burden for the prisoner.\NAnd to make us go through all that... Dialogue: 0,0:27:22.72,0:27:25.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The only possible reason\Nis anger, rage. Dialogue: 0,0:27:25.53,0:27:28.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A rage or anger\Nwe don't necessarily have to feel. Dialogue: 0,0:27:30.68,0:27:32.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- I am a bit... sleepy. Dialogue: 0,0:27:33.35,0:27:36.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Yes, are you? Dialogue: 0,0:27:38.72,0:27:41.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- We'll have the family vis-à-vis at 10:30, Dialogue: 0,0:27:41.40,0:27:44.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then the one behind the glass at 13:00, Dialogue: 0,0:27:44.00,0:27:48.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then you'll have the 4-hours-visit\Nwith daddy and mummy in the afternoon. Dialogue: 0,0:27:49.11,0:27:53.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- And the bus at 8pm.\N- Yes, we'll be leaving at 8pm, Dialogue: 0,0:27:53.59,0:27:56.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,...we'll get on the bus and back\Nto the Basque Country, yes. Dialogue: 0,0:27:57.02,0:27:58.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- You're living 2 lifes at the same time,\Naren't you? Dialogue: 0,0:27:58.98,0:28:02.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because there's your life here, and then Dialogue: 0,0:28:02.46,0:28:07.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you've got your other life of\Nprison visits, road trips... Dialogue: 0,0:28:07.58,0:28:13.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Everything, the whole month, conditioned by visits.\NThat's like having two lifes. Dialogue: 0,0:28:13.31,0:28:17.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- The 'glass' is worse because... Dialogue: 0,0:28:17.96,0:28:21.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- You can't touch mummy and daddy... Dialogue: 0,0:28:21.81,0:28:26.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- But then, my mum works in the library,\Nshe takes care of the library, Dialogue: 0,0:28:26.33,0:28:31.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then, they give here points if she\Nlooks after the library for 3 months, Dialogue: 0,0:28:31.91,0:28:37.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and she told me they'll give her an extra visit\Nif she works in the library for 3 months! Dialogue: 0,0:28:37.59,0:28:39.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Really? Jesus! Dialogue: 0,0:28:39.83,0:28:42.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Nerea...\N- Yes, her friend Nerea... Dialogue: 0,0:28:42.62,0:28:47.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- She was here the other day...\N16 years since she last hugged mum, Dialogue: 0,0:28:47.16,0:28:50.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,...because she used to come to the visits, but\Njust to the ones behind the glass.\N- Very good!\N Dialogue: 0,0:28:50.26,0:28:54.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Yes, and after 15 years,\Nfor example... Granddad Juanjo. Dialogue: 0,0:28:54.54,0:28:59.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Yes, yes.\N- How long..? A lot! Dialogue: 0,0:28:59.18,0:29:02.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Yeah, with the glass...\N- And uncle Loren. Dialogue: 0,0:29:02.89,0:29:06.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Yes, uncle Loren too.\NBecause he can't... Dialogue: 0,0:29:06.05,0:29:08.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Because they are people...\Nthat don't come very often. Dialogue: 0,0:29:08.91,0:29:12.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Yes, and then of course,\Nthey have to stay behind the glass. Dialogue: 0,0:29:12.97,0:29:18.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,All the friends...\NOnly the family can be with her. Dialogue: 0,0:29:18.13,0:29:19.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Just close family. Dialogue: 0,0:29:20.57,0:29:22.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- You visit your dad once a month,\Nin Castellon. Dialogue: 0,0:29:24.85,0:29:27.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Where do you go to visit daddy?\N- To Murcia. Dialogue: 0,0:29:27.94,0:29:31.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- To Murcia... That's far away, isn't it?\N- Yes. Dialogue: 0,0:29:31.02,0:29:32.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- How many hours (drive)?\N- Eight. Dialogue: 0,0:29:32.72,0:29:35.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Takes us 8 hours to get there,\Nand we go by car. Dialogue: 0,0:29:35.79,0:29:41.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Play with the tablet, look at the sky,\Nand listen to some music. Dialogue: 0,0:29:41.15,0:29:43.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I feel dizzy sometimes... Dialogue: 0,0:29:44.34,0:29:47.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,...and I throw up.\N- You get sick sometimes, don't you? Dialogue: 0,0:29:47.90,0:29:49.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- And can Aiur go on trips too? Dialogue: 0,0:29:49.98,0:29:50.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Yes. Dialogue: 0,0:29:50.87,0:29:53.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- You two are quite good,\Naren't you? Dialogue: 0,0:29:53.84,0:29:54.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Yes. Dialogue: 0,0:29:54.50,0:29:59.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- It was daddy who made that\Nfor the birds. Did you know that? Dialogue: 0,0:29:59.34,0:30:03.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Yes. But they won't fit, because\Ndaddy made a small hole... Dialogue: 0,0:30:03.95,0:30:05.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Well, of couse, it's not for vultures Aiur! Dialogue: 0,0:30:05.79,0:30:08.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's for wee birds,\Nlike wrens and stuff. Dialogue: 0,0:30:08.53,0:30:09.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Wrens? Dialogue: 0,0:30:09.100,0:30:12.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Don't you know what a wren is? Dialogue: 0,0:30:12.12,0:30:14.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Yes, what granddad drinks... Dialogue: 0,0:30:15.92,0:30:18.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- And... when you see your daddy... Dialogue: 0,0:30:18.36,0:30:20.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,after having crossed those 9 doors... Dialogue: 0,0:30:21.67,0:30:23.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What do you do when you see him? Dialogue: 0,0:30:23.41,0:30:25.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- I jump on him! Dialogue: 0,0:30:25.11,0:30:26.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- When is your next visit? Dialogue: 0,0:30:26.59,0:30:28.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- At the end of January. Dialogue: 0,0:30:28.04,0:30:31.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- He is in the South of France, in Arles, Dialogue: 0,0:30:31.51,0:30:34.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in a prison... in a prison for convicted people. Dialogue: 0,0:30:34.40,0:30:39.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Take a lot of food, take the bags,\Nand go. Dialogue: 0,0:30:39.93,0:30:41.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- We have to prepare the bag... Dialogue: 0,0:30:41.36,0:30:45.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,...with everything we're going to give him... Dialogue: 0,0:30:45.17,0:30:47.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We always have to prepare that bag. Dialogue: 0,0:30:47.45,0:30:49.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- But yeah, hopefully. Dialogue: 0,0:30:50.10,0:30:52.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Which concerns, what doubts do you have now? Dialogue: 0,0:30:55.29,0:31:01.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Well... doubts? I don't know. Dialogue: 0,0:31:03.84,0:31:06.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- I mean, about the situation of your parents... Dialogue: 0,0:31:06.10,0:31:07.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Oh, yes, so... Dialogue: 0,0:31:07.04,0:31:10.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I wonder how they spend their day, Dialogue: 0,0:31:11.80,0:31:14.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what they do, what... Dialogue: 0,0:31:17.11,0:31:19.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I wonder if they live well. Dialogue: 0,0:31:22.02,0:31:24.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Do you ask your grandparents about it? Dialogue: 0,0:31:24.99,0:31:26.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Sometimes... Dialogue: 0,0:31:26.09,0:31:27.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- What do they tell you? Dialogue: 0,0:31:27.90,0:31:31.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- They tell me the truth... always. Dialogue: 0,0:31:32.05,0:31:33.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- What are your questions, Hize? Dialogue: 0,0:31:33.65,0:31:36.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Why daddy is in prison, concretely. Dialogue: 0,0:31:36.73,0:31:40.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Yes, she's been asking that\Nmore and more specifically. Dialogue: 0,0:31:40.12,0:31:44.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We used to give her more general answers,\Nbut the older she gets, Dialogue: 0,0:31:44.37,0:31:47.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the more details she wants to know, Dialogue: 0,0:31:47.34,0:31:52.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we give them to her.\NI think you have to tell children the truth. Dialogue: 0,0:31:55.39,0:31:57.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What does Hize's mum mean by 'telling the truth'? Dialogue: 0,0:31:57.99,0:32:00.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Do these underage kids know... Dialogue: 0,0:32:00.48,0:32:04.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,...what their parents did\Nbefore going to prison? Dialogue: 0,0:32:04.72,0:32:08.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And if they know,\Nwhat do they think about it? Dialogue: 0,0:32:08.91,0:32:11.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The aim of this program is not\Nto ask children about what Dialogue: 0,0:32:11.79,0:32:16.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,their parents did. The aim of \Nthis program is to analyze this: Dialogue: 0,0:32:16.12,0:32:21.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How the exceptional penitentiary policy\Nthat is applied to their parents Dialogue: 0,0:32:21.14,0:32:23.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,affects this kids. Dialogue: 0,0:32:26.11,0:32:29.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,One of the consequences of this\Npenitentiary policy of exception is Dialogue: 0,0:32:29.11,0:32:31.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that prisoners are kept far from their homeland: Dialogue: 0,0:32:31.14,0:32:36.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,54 prisoners are\Nbetween 100 and 390 kms away, Dialogue: 0,0:32:36.83,0:32:41.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,103 prisoners\Nbetween 400 and 690 kms away, Dialogue: 0,0:32:41.75,0:32:46.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,211 prisoners\Nbetween 700 and 1100 kms away. Dialogue: 0,0:32:47.19,0:32:52.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The children we're interviewing today\Nhave to travel all those kilometres twice... Dialogue: 0,0:32:52.09,0:32:57.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- one way, to go to see their parents,\Nand then to return home. Dialogue: 0,0:32:57.19,0:33:01.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We're talking about that\Npenitentiary policy of exception\Nin the program today. Dialogue: 0,0:33:01.38,0:33:05.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What these children know about\Nwhat their parents did... Dialogue: 0,0:33:05.32,0:33:09.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,...and what they think about it, Dialogue: 0,0:33:09.36,0:33:11.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,...which would stay in their intimacy... Dialogue: 0,0:33:11.96,0:33:14.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That would take another whole program. Dialogue: 0,0:33:14.49,0:33:22.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Your mum has told us that being 14 now,\Nwell, you're growing up and you've started... Dialogue: 0,0:33:22.21,0:33:29.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,...searching on the internet. What do you search?\NWhat are your concerns now? Dialogue: 0,0:33:30.40,0:33:38.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Well, I saw when I was 11 or 12, and \Nit wasn't really something I needed, but... Dialogue: 0,0:33:38.54,0:33:48.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,...I was curious, and I started searching... Dialogue: 0,0:33:48.63,0:33:53.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,...without knowing what I could find.\N- What did you search? Dialogue: 0,0:33:53.83,0:33:56.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Did you googled your father's name?\N- Yes. Dialogue: 0,0:33:57.12,0:33:59.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- And a sentence did come up...\N...or an article? Dialogue: 0,0:33:59.96,0:34:06.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Yes, but a newspaper was saying\None thing and... Dialogue: 0,0:34:06.20,0:34:10.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,...another one another thing, and well...\NIt was stuff about my dad. So I didn't... Dialogue: 0,0:34:10.44,0:34:14.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I didn't know what to believe... Dialogue: 0,0:34:15.03,0:34:17.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- What was your reaction? Dialogue: 0,0:34:22.36,0:34:27.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- I didn't say anything, not a word, but\NI did tell my mum after that, and... Dialogue: 0,0:34:27.20,0:34:32.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, there are different versions\Nabout it. Dialogue: 0,0:34:33.04,0:34:36.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- And has your mother explained everything?\N- Yes. Dialogue: 0,0:34:36.14,0:34:41.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Is there a question you repeat\Namong those you ask your mum? Dialogue: 0,0:34:42.18,0:34:44.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Yes, 'When is he coming back?' Dialogue: 0,0:34:48.17,0:34:55.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- And? What's the answer for that question?\N- I don't know. 'Soon'. That's what she says. Dialogue: 0,0:34:58.05,0:35:01.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- What have they told you about the years\Nyour dad has to spend in prison? Dialogue: 0,0:35:01.91,0:35:03.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- So... 40 years. Dialogue: 0,0:35:05.52,0:35:07.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Wow, that's some time!\N- Yes. Dialogue: 0,0:35:09.15,0:35:15.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- So?\N- So... I don't know. Dialogue: 0,0:35:16.14,0:35:18.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Why so many years? Dialogue: 0,0:35:18.76,0:35:22.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Do your classmates, or your group of friends,\Nask much about your father? Dialogue: 0,0:35:23.16,0:35:24.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- They used to ask when we were younger, yes. Dialogue: 0,0:35:24.89,0:35:29.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'Why is your daddy in prison?'\NAnd I found it hard to answer... Dialogue: 0,0:35:29.81,0:35:33.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,...because I didn't really know,\Nand they didn't neither... Dialogue: 0,0:35:33.02,0:35:36.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We still just know what they tell us at home. Dialogue: 0,0:35:36.71,0:35:41.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My mum used to tell me to tell them\Nthey should ask it at home. Dialogue: 0,0:35:41.57,0:35:46.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because at the end of the day, they're\Ngoing to tell you in one way... Dialogue: 0,0:35:46.83,0:35:50.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,...and my mum said she wasn't entitled\Nto tell other kids... Dialogue: 0,0:35:50.58,0:35:54.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,...to talk about those things...\NThat it was better to speak about it at home, and then... Dialogue: 0,0:35:54.86,0:35:56.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,...I used to tell my friends: Dialogue: 0,0:35:56.88,0:36:00.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'I don't know, my mum says\Nyou should ask your parents.' Dialogue: 0,0:36:00.44,0:36:05.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I usually answered that and\Nat the end, well... Dialogue: 0,0:36:05.28,0:36:09.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My friends stopped asking\Nat some stage, Dialogue: 0,0:36:09.46,0:36:13.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so I guess they were told\Nsomething at home, and... Dialogue: 0,0:36:15.60,0:36:20.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- I've also... To pass the time,\NI've brought the tablet, Dialogue: 0,0:36:20.95,0:36:23.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,...headphones for the music...\N- Are they new? Dialogue: 0,0:36:23.55,0:36:25.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- They're a present from granddad.\N- Are they? Very good! Dialogue: 0,0:36:25.61,0:36:28.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- And then my homework and a book.\N- Very good. Dialogue: 0,0:36:28.54,0:36:35.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Yes, and I'll do my homework\Non our way back on the bus, after seeing mum. Dialogue: 0,0:36:35.20,0:36:36.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Are you?\N- Yes, yes... Dialogue: 0,0:36:36.31,0:36:39.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Well sure, they have to be done by Monday... Dialogue: 0,0:36:39.74,0:36:43.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Yes, that's it. I can't do them\Non Monday morning... Dialogue: 0,0:36:43.22,0:36:44.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- No, no, no, of course... Dialogue: 0,0:36:44.83,0:36:52.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- What's the atmosphere like during the trips?\N- Good atmosphere, happy... Dialogue: 0,0:36:52.06,0:36:56.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,...and I laugh a lot somethimes.\N- Do you? What about? Dialogue: 0,0:36:56.73,0:36:58.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- With the bus drivers.\N- Why? Dialogue: 0,0:36:58.95,0:37:06.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Because... They try to entertain me,\Nand they do entertain me. Dialogue: 0,0:37:08.30,0:37:11.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Are you one of the youngest ones?\N- Yes. Dialogue: 0,0:37:13.68,0:37:15.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(They sing together) Dialogue: 0,0:37:27.72,0:37:30.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- We're getting the beds ready... Dialogue: 0,0:37:30.98,0:37:34.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Garikoitz will sleep here,\Nthis is for Maitetxu and that's for me. Dialogue: 0,0:37:34.12,0:37:36.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And Larraitz. And that other one... Dialogue: 0,0:37:36.74,0:37:39.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They get their beds ready before dinner. Dialogue: 0,0:37:39.58,0:37:44.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We're having dinner now, and well...\NWe'll arrive later on and... until tomorrow. Dialogue: 0,0:37:48.04,0:37:49.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Jesus! Dialogue: 0,0:37:51.07,0:37:55.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- And how is the trip going, Jare?\NGood? Dialogue: 0,0:37:57.19,0:38:00.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- You can't wait to see your daddy, can you?\N- Yeah... Dialogue: 0,0:38:00.98,0:38:04.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- She was in Larrabetzu today,\Nsaying she wanted to see daddy. Dialogue: 0,0:38:05.93,0:38:08.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Oh, yeah?\N- Tomorrow, tomorrow morning, soon. Dialogue: 0,0:38:10.69,0:38:12.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Will you see your daddy tomorrow morning?\N(She shakes her head 'no') Dialogue: 0,0:38:12.79,0:38:15.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- When then?\N- In the afternoon! Dialogue: 0,0:38:15.83,0:38:17.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Oh! Dialogue: 0,0:38:17.34,0:38:19.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Yes, because she'll come with me, won't she? Dialogue: 0,0:38:19.67,0:38:25.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Not tomorrow, because we have the relatives' visit.\NYou'll be in the long one, and we have the one in the small room. Dialogue: 0,0:38:25.40,0:38:30.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- And then 'cohabitation', and glass,\Nin the morning and in the afternoon. Dialogue: 0,0:38:30.88,0:38:36.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- But not the glass...\NThe glass isn't... Dialogue: 0,0:38:36.13,0:38:39.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,...as nice as the relatives' visit.\N- No, it's not. Dialogue: 0,0:38:39.50,0:38:42.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You can't touch your mummy and daddy.\NYeah... That's why, isn't it? Dialogue: 0,0:38:43.60,0:38:47.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- What do you prefer, Jare? Dialogue: 0,0:38:47.21,0:38:52.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Oh! To be with daddy!\NYes, and to kiss daddy! Dialogue: 0,0:38:52.60,0:38:53.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Yes? Dialogue: 0,0:38:55.86,0:38:57.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Shall we open it? Dialogue: 0,0:38:58.22,0:39:02.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- But Jare, talk like a 4-year-old kid.\NNot like a wee baby. Dialogue: 0,0:39:02.16,0:39:05.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- How old are you? 4?\N(She shows four fingers) Dialogue: 0,0:39:05.61,0:39:08.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Such a big girl!\N- But she's a bit unruly now... Dialogue: 0,0:39:08.73,0:39:11.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,...and it seems...\N- You must be tired... Of course. Dialogue: 0,0:39:11.90,0:39:15.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Jare gets angry sometimes, isn't she?\NWhen she has to say good bye to daddy... Dialogue: 0,0:39:16.44,0:39:19.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Yeah?\N(She nods) Dialogue: 0,0:39:22.76,0:39:25.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- She's messing around now... Dialogue: 0,0:39:31.13,0:39:35.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Well Gari, good bye darling.\NSee you tomorrow, ok? Good night. Dialogue: 0,0:40:50.30,0:40:54.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Some of the relatives get off the bus in\NEl Puerto de Santamaria (Cadiz). Dialogue: 0,0:40:54.22,0:40:58.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The rest have to keep traveling\N110 kilometres more until Algeciras. Dialogue: 0,0:41:00.95,0:41:05.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Well, we'll be there soon!\N- I hope so... Dialogue: 0,0:41:05.30,0:41:09.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,...because we started at 5pm yesterday,\Nand we're still here... Dialogue: 0,0:41:09.30,0:41:13.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Yes, yes...\N- There are still one or two hours left... Dialogue: 0,0:41:13.53,0:41:16.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Yes, it's been 14 hours now... Dialogue: 0,0:41:17.46,0:41:20.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- To have to drive 1,600 km\Nwith two children, on the car... Dialogue: 0,0:41:21.10,0:41:25.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,...and seeing the risk of having an accident...\NYou think it might be better to take a plane, Dialogue: 0,0:41:25.06,0:41:26.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,even if it's much more expensive... Dialogue: 0,0:41:28.29,0:41:31.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Traffic accidents are, of course,\Nthe most dangerous consequences of the dispersal policy. Dialogue: 0,0:41:31.92,0:41:35.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It has caused dozens of deaths and injuries in recent years.\N Dialogue: 0,0:41:35.58,0:41:38.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Relatives also consider taking a plane... Dialogue: 0,0:41:38.80,0:41:41.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but that's much more expensive. Dialogue: 0,0:41:42.42,0:41:46.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- The thing is that they've changed the timetable\Nof the plane and... Dialogue: 0,0:41:46.80,0:41:50.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,...it doesn't suit us anymore, does it? Dialogue: 0,0:41:50.10,0:41:56.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Yeah, and it used to be late sometimes,\Nand we couldn't get there on time. Dialogue: 0,0:41:56.52,0:41:59.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Yes, and what happens if you arrive a bit late? Dialogue: 0,0:42:00.44,0:42:02.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- You can't get in. Dialogue: 0,0:42:03.28,0:42:07.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- But well, sometimes we arrive on time and\Nwe still get in late, don't we? Dialogue: 0,0:42:07.87,0:42:11.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Yes!\N- Because they open the doors late... Dialogue: 0,0:42:11.71,0:42:13.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,...but well, that's how prison is, isn't it?\N- Yes... Dialogue: 0,0:42:13.95,0:42:16.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- We tell you that very often:\N'That's how prison works.' Dialogue: 0,0:42:28.26,0:42:32.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Do you know that I once counted\Nall the doors we have to go through Dialogue: 0,0:42:32.15,0:42:35.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,before we get to see daddy? Dialogue: 0,0:42:43.98,0:42:47.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- We go through a door, and then\Nwe have to wait there, don't we? Dialogue: 0,0:42:47.98,0:42:48.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Yes! Dialogue: 0,0:42:48.71,0:42:51.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Then they open another door, we go through it,\Nand we have to wait again... Dialogue: 0,0:42:51.64,0:42:53.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- And we do that nine times! Dialogue: 0,0:42:53.04,0:42:57.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Go through 9 doors,\Nand we have to wait a lot. Dialogue: 0,0:43:12.89,0:43:16.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- What happens when you arrive to prison? Dialogue: 0,0:43:16.29,0:43:21.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- We have to be there half an hour earlier,\Nand we have to show our IDs and the fingerprints... Dialogue: 0,0:43:21.50,0:43:29.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We go through a door after that, and they search us\Nwith a metal detector... A handheld detector. Dialogue: 0,0:43:29.37,0:43:34.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then, we get in and we have to wait\Nin another room, and we get in after that. Dialogue: 0,0:43:55.01,0:43:59.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- The screws are there, aren't they?\NPrison officers. Dialogue: 0,0:43:59.73,0:44:01.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How is your relationship with them? Dialogue: 0,0:44:01.77,0:44:07.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Well... There are lots of them,\Nand each of them is a different person, you know? Dialogue: 0,0:44:08.28,0:44:13.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They usually are quite respectful, even if\Nwe've had some problems with some of them... Dialogue: 0,0:44:13.56,0:44:16.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But they're usually respectful. Dialogue: 0,0:44:16.96,0:44:21.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- When I was going through your homework,\Nlast summer, I found... Dialogue: 0,0:44:21.62,0:44:25.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,...very nice drawings, and very nice essays.\NAnd you often said that thing... Dialogue: 0,0:44:25.84,0:44:28.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'We've been with daddy at the weekend'\N'It's been great...' Dialogue: 0,0:44:28.86,0:44:33.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And there was a drawing... I thought\Nit was special. Do you remember it? Dialogue: 0,0:44:33.48,0:44:36.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Yes, it was an angry screw. Dialogue: 0,0:44:36.55,0:44:38.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- How is the treatment you get from them? Dialogue: 0,0:44:39.15,0:44:44.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- I don't know...\NWe don't have a relationship like... So... Dialogue: 0,0:44:44.94,0:44:53.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They tell us 'Get in!' or 'Wait!' or...\N'What do you have there?' Dialogue: 0,0:44:54.26,0:44:56.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- And why was he angry? Dialogue: 0,0:44:56.13,0:44:59.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,With those big teeth...\N- Yes. Dialogue: 0,0:44:59.09,0:45:02.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Why was he angry?\N- They're always angry. Dialogue: 0,0:45:03.09,0:45:05.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Prison officers are always angry?\NDo you think? Dialogue: 0,0:45:05.48,0:45:07.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Yes.\N- Are they? Why do you think so? Dialogue: 0,0:45:07.54,0:45:10.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- I don't know.\N- Are they too serious? Dialogue: 0,0:45:10.77,0:45:11.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Yes.\N- Yes? Dialogue: 0,0:45:12.41,0:45:14.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Do you feel they treat you well in prison? Dialogue: 0,0:45:14.96,0:45:20.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- It depends on who... I do sometimes,\Nbut they're too rough some other times. Dialogue: 0,0:45:59.40,0:46:04.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Do you prepare each visit, each hour\Nyou spend with your dad? Dialogue: 0,0:46:04.67,0:46:09.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Well, each visit is different,\Nit has different things... Dialogue: 0,0:46:09.65,0:46:14.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's a funny thing about visits.\NEach of them is special, and intense, but... Dialogue: 0,0:46:14.25,0:46:19.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,...it's difficult to remember just one visit\Nas 'the special one'. Dialogue: 0,0:46:19.96,0:46:24.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They all are special,\Nand you can't remember one as the best one. Dialogue: 0,0:46:35.19,0:46:38.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- How would you describe a prison? Dialogue: 0,0:46:40.03,0:46:43.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Iron bars, walls, the sound of the doors... Dialogue: 0,0:46:43.94,0:46:48.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,...and because my dad has always been in solitary confinment,\Nwe have to go to that wing. Dialogue: 0,0:46:49.48,0:46:53.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it's very small, dark.\NThere's no daylight. Dialogue: 0,0:46:55.08,0:46:57.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Dirty and old. Dialogue: 0,0:46:57.86,0:46:59.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Cold and dark. Dialogue: 0,0:46:59.32,0:47:01.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Have you ever seen your dad's cell?\N- No. Dialogue: 0,0:47:01.84,0:47:03.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Has he told you what it's like?\N- No. Dialogue: 0,0:47:04.66,0:47:06.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Have you ever asked him?\N- No. Dialogue: 0,0:47:07.00,0:47:08.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Why not?\N Dialogue: 0,0:47:08.94,0:47:16.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Well... I'd rather spend the time we have\Ntalking about other stuff. Dialogue: 0,0:48:12.31,0:48:18.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- How is it when you see him?\N- Since I was a child... Dialogue: 0,0:48:18.06,0:48:23.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,...always, they open the door, and\NI always run towards him, I still do... Dialogue: 0,0:48:23.23,0:48:25.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,...and he takes me in his arms, always. Dialogue: 0,0:48:25.81,0:48:29.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Aiur and me jump on daddy... Dialogue: 0,0:48:29.44,0:48:32.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,...and we play to a lot of things. Dialogue: 0,0:48:52.67,0:49:00.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- The question people always ask is \Nhow my dad is, and even though \NI answered it so many times... Dialogue: 0,0:49:00.43,0:49:05.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,...it's still the most difficult \Nquestion to answer. Dialogue: 0,0:49:31.100,0:49:38.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- What would you say you need for that\Nhour and a half to be 'well spent'? Dialogue: 0,0:49:39.03,0:49:41.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What do you need to think... Dialogue: 0,0:49:41.85,0:49:44.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'it's been a well spent\Nan hour and a half'? Dialogue: 0,0:49:45.30,0:49:48.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- To share love... Dialogue: 0,0:49:48.38,0:49:51.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,...to enjoy it.\NWell, sometimes it's necessary to have bad times too. Dialogue: 0,0:49:52.23,0:50:01.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Have you ever felt... Have you felt\Nthe need to stay away... Dialogue: 0,0:50:01.29,0:50:05.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,...from your dad and the trips, maybe? Dialogue: 0,0:50:05.64,0:50:08.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- No, I've never felt that. Dialogue: 0,0:50:09.10,0:50:15.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We all try to keep as close as we can Dialogue: 0,0:50:15.94,0:50:17.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to the person who is inside. Dialogue: 0,0:50:27.14,0:50:31.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Then, at the end, a screw comes and says\N'It's over!'... Dialogue: 0,0:50:31.94,0:50:35.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Yes, or 'Come on, finish' or 'Time to leave',\Nand that's when... Dialogue: 0,0:50:35.94,0:50:37.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,...it's like a rage, anger... Dialogue: 0,0:50:37.84,0:50:40.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- A prison officer, from a microphone. Dialogue: 0,0:50:40.44,0:50:44.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- It's like when I was a child...\NI want to stay with him. Dialogue: 0,0:50:45.09,0:50:49.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- I hug him,\Nand start tidying everything up. Dialogue: 0,0:50:50.14,0:50:56.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- And... that 'good bye' is never easy.\NEven if we want to leave the prison, Dialogue: 0,0:50:56.65,0:50:59.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,...we don't want the visit to end. Dialogue: 0,0:50:59.76,0:51:04.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Because I have to wait a whole month\Nto see my daddy again. Dialogue: 0,0:51:14.76,0:51:20.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- The years go by and you don't see the end... Dialogue: 0,0:51:20.80,0:51:22.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Don't you give up? Dialogue: 0,0:51:23.19,0:51:27.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- No, you don't.\NYou always have to remain hopeful. Dialogue: 0,0:51:27.88,0:51:33.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You don't rely on false hopes, but\Nyou're always hopeful about... Dialogue: 0,0:51:33.19,0:51:39.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'Let's see if they bring him closer' or\Nsomething, you know? Dialogue: 0,0:51:39.09,0:51:43.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'Let's see if everything changes...'\NI don't know... Dialogue: 0,0:51:43.28,0:51:48.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You always have that... hope.\NYou have to remain hopeful. Dialogue: 0,0:51:48.85,0:51:53.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you lose it...\NYou don't have anything left. Dialogue: 0,0:52:12.31,0:52:15.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Can you think of a time\Nyou visited your dad... Dialogue: 0,0:52:16.44,0:52:18.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,...that you'll always remember? Dialogue: 0,0:52:22.01,0:52:25.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- We went on his birthday, last year. Dialogue: 0,0:52:25.70,0:52:28.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was a week day,\NI missed school... Dialogue: 0,0:52:28.97,0:52:30.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,...I wanted to go on that day. Dialogue: 0,0:52:30.58,0:52:34.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He writes a poem for me every year\Nfor my birthday, so I...\N Dialogue: 0,0:52:34.23,0:52:38.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,...I wrote one for him. It was nice.\N- Do you remember the poem? Dialogue: 0,0:52:38.21,0:52:40.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Yes.\N- Would you sing it? Dialogue: 0,0:52:43.96,0:52:50.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Years have gone by,\Nsome time now, Dialogue: 0,0:52:51.18,0:52:57.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and our love is what\Ndrives us every day. Dialogue: 0,0:52:58.14,0:53:04.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Being far away\Nstill strenghts the relationship. Dialogue: 0,0:53:05.03,0:53:11.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They won't see us sad,\Nwe'll always sing happily, Dialogue: 0,0:53:12.13,0:53:19.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because we don't care if\Nthey're 40 years, or 102. Dialogue: 0,0:53:19.62,0:53:26.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because we don't care if\Nthey're 40 years, or 102. Dialogue: 0,0:53:55.64,0:54:01.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- I want to get my driving license,\Nbecause I can't take the bus for years, Dialogue: 0,0:54:01.97,0:54:06.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,...and I'd like to go by myself.\NI think it could be nice. Dialogue: 0,0:54:06.36,0:54:09.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And on my arrival, I'd say to my mum and dad: Dialogue: 0,0:54:09.34,0:54:14.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'This has been my first trip on my own!'\NThat's why I'm excited about it. Dialogue: 0,0:54:15.28,0:54:19.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- To get your driving license, then?\N- Yes.