0:00:01.482,0:00:04.512 (Half bell) 0:00:09.468,0:00:32.371 (Bell) 0:00:32.371,0:00:34.989 Dear Thay, dear sangha. 0:00:35.199,0:00:38.734 I was at the Riverside Church in New York 0:00:38.734,0:00:42.274 in 2001 when you came to give a talk 0:00:42.274,0:00:45.716 shortly after September 11th. This was 0:00:45.716,0:00:49.538 the same location where Dr. King came 0:00:49.538,0:00:52.417 to give his speech against the Vietnam war 0:00:52.417,0:00:55.267 – a position, we remember with gratitude, 0:00:55.267,0:00:58.897 that was influenced by his time with you. 0:01:00.207,0:01:03.262 You spoke to your own experience of the 0:01:03.262,0:01:06.395 tragedy of war, and you were among 0:01:06.395,0:01:09.275 the only voices I can remember at the time 0:01:09.275,0:01:12.251 who advocated for seizing the moment 0:01:12.251,0:01:14.074 to work for peace. 0:01:14.374,0:01:17.273 Many of us in these times now 0:01:17.483,0:01:20.851 may be feeling fear, anger, despair 0:01:21.341,0:01:25.649 when we see so many wars waged in our name. 0:01:26.249,0:01:30.085 As you did with Dr King, can you advise us 0:01:30.325,0:01:32.684 how we might transform these feelings into 0:01:32.684,0:01:36.061 compassion and interactive peace making? 0:01:38.225,0:01:41.827 As you know, I was in America when the 0:01:41.827,0:01:44.110 September 11th took place. 0:01:47.340,0:01:50.942 That day I was going from Deer Park 0:01:50.942,0:01:55.169 to the north of California to organise 0:01:55.169,0:01:58.150 retreats and public talks. 0:01:58.990,0:02:05.654 And loading the bus, 0:02:05.654,0:02:09.087 we hear about the event. 0:02:13.077,0:02:17.199 I was supposed to give a talk in Berkeley 0:02:20.468,0:02:22.286 four days later. 0:02:24.291,0:02:29.972 And we could experience 0:02:29.972,0:02:33.160 the collective energy of fear and anger 0:02:35.390,0:02:37.175 in America. 0:02:38.843,0:02:41.098 Fear and anger. 0:02:46.457,0:02:51.343 We know that the collective energy 0:02:51.343,0:02:55.809 of compassion can be very healing, 0:02:56.399,0:02:59.459 but the collective energy of fear and anger 0:02:59.485,0:03:01.650 can be very dangerous. 0:03:01.960,0:03:06.023 It can start a war at any time. 0:03:07.878,0:03:11.397 So my purpose in giving the talks 0:03:11.397,0:03:12.477 was to ask Americans 0:03:12.477,0:03:14.381 to practice mindful breathing 0:03:14.381,0:03:16.049 in order to calm down 0:03:16.049,0:03:18.367 their feelings, their emotions. 0:03:18.367,0:03:20.907 That's the most important thing to do. 0:03:22.187,0:03:26.447 That is why in the talk taking place 0:03:26.447,0:03:29.146 in Berkeley – 4.000 people attended – 0:03:30.115,0:03:31.941 we wore our sangha tee, 0:03:33.278,0:03:35.322 the orange colour robe, 0:03:36.017,0:03:41.041 and we practiced meditation on compassion 0:03:41.384,0:03:43.991 and tried to calm down 0:03:44.740,0:03:47.006 – to help people calm down. 0:03:47.577,0:03:49.959 You can see the suffering on the face 0:03:49.989,0:03:53.237 of the people ... that day. 0:03:55.516,0:03:59.018 And we knew that after the talk[br] 0:03:59.463,0:04:01.300 people suffer less 0:04:01.843,0:04:03.940 – by – you just look at their face 0:04:03.940,0:04:06.819 and you know that people suffer less 0:04:06.839,0:04:10.743 after a guided meditation on compassion 0:04:10.743,0:04:12.872 and calming down. 0:04:14.734,0:04:17.676 But that is only for a few thousand people. 0:04:18.827,0:04:21.638 The talk in the Riverside Church had 0:04:21.638,0:04:23.255 the same purpose. 0:04:25.519,0:04:28.151 And we advised our friends in America 0:04:28.151,0:04:31.566 not to do anything yet. 0:04:32.246,0:04:34.455 Not to say anything yet. 0:04:34.455,0:04:37.611 The first thing to do is to calm down. 0:04:38.777,0:04:42.400 And then begin to look into the situation 0:04:42.830,0:04:44.176 and ask the question, 0:04:44.176,0:04:48.078 why they have done such a thing to us. 0:04:50.880,0:04:52.543 Have we done anything 0:04:54.260,0:04:57.249 that made them so angry at us ... 0:04:57.642,0:05:03.781 – that made them so despair 0:05:03.781,0:05:11.551 that they could commit ... such an act? 0:05:14.120,0:05:16.650 I proposed that 0:05:18.357,0:05:21.357 – according to the tradition we belong to 0:05:21.357,0:05:22.357 – I proposed that 0:05:23.388,0:05:27.633 America organise sessions of deep listening. 0:05:29.410,0:05:35.606 We should invite many wise Americans 0:05:35.606,0:05:38.347 to come and help us to listen. 0:05:38.945,0:05:41.306 And we invite the people in America 0:05:41.306,0:05:44.312 who feel that they are victims 0:05:46.160,0:05:53.394 of social injustice and so on 0:05:53.394,0:05:56.829 to come and tell us about their suffering. 0:05:57.654,0:06:03.974 And we proposed that sessions of 0:06:03.974,0:06:06.788 deep listening like that within America 0:06:06.799,0:06:09.356 can be televised 0:06:09.390,0:06:12.140 – so that everyone can follow. 0:06:12.685,0:06:15.443 That is to listen to your own suffering 0:06:15.443,0:06:17.636 – to our own suffering. 0:06:17.971,0:06:20.651 And understand our own suffering 0:06:20.651,0:06:23.631 before we want to listen to the suffering 0:06:23.638,0:06:27.064 of the people on the other side. 0:06:27.197,0:06:29.634 It's very faithful to our practice. 0:06:29.634,0:06:32.007 You listen to your own suffering first 0:06:32.007,0:06:35.821 before you listen to the suffering[br] 0:06:35.821,0:06:37.571 on the other side. 0:06:38.971,0:06:43.130 And after you have done deep listening 0:06:43.130,0:06:45.515 in your own country, 0:06:45.515,0:06:49.459 you may turn to the people over there 0:06:49.608,0:06:52.391 and use loving speech. 0:06:52.391,0:06:54.199 "Dear friends over there, [br] 0:06:54.731,0:06:56.551 we have suffered a lot. 0:06:56.871,0:06:58.394 We don't understand [br] 0:06:59.501,0:07:02.708 why you have done such a thing to us. 0:07:04.851,0:07:09.661 Have we done anything in order to try 0:07:09.740,0:07:12.972 to destroy you as a people? 0:07:13.528,0:07:16.477 as a religion? as a way of life? 0:07:17.431,0:07:19.706 We may have done something; 0:07:19.706,0:07:21.186 or we may have said something 0:07:21.186,0:07:23.021 that gave you the impression 0:07:23.021,0:07:24.909 that we want to destroy 0:07:24.909,0:07:27.884 you as a people, as a religion, 0:07:27.884,0:07:29.955 as a way of life. 0:07:29.955,0:07:33.708 But in fact, we do not have that intention. 0:07:33.708,0:07:36.444 So please tell us what we have done, 0:07:36.444,0:07:40.130 what we have said, that has given you 0:07:40.130,0:07:42.952 that kind of impression. 0:07:42.952,0:07:45.289 We know that you must have been 0:07:45.289,0:07:46.707 very angry at us 0:07:46.707,0:07:48.664 to have done such a thing to us. 0:07:48.664,0:07:50.871 We would like to listen. 0:07:50.871,0:07:53.705 Please tell us ... from your heart. 0:07:53.705,0:07:56.001 Tell us about your suffering ... 0:07:56.001,0:08:00.611 and our lack of skilfulness[br] 0:08:00.611,0:08:04.411 – in making you suffer." 0:08:04.411,0:08:07.976 And that is what I proposed to America 0:08:07.976,0:08:09.346 at that time. 0:08:12.120,0:08:16.183 And this is a process of 0:08:16.789,0:08:20.641 restoring communication and reconciling. 0:08:21.482,0:08:28.820 And last spring – the spring of this year, 0:08:28.820,0:08:35.258 I went to Korea and I gave retreats 0:08:35.258,0:08:38.301 – we gave retreats and public talks. 0:08:38.301,0:08:40.637 And there was one public talk 0:08:40.637,0:08:44.467 in the south 0:08:44.467,0:08:47.251 attended by many people 0:08:47.251,0:08:49.667 – maybe 20.000 people, 0:08:51.249,0:08:52.616 and they announced to us 0:08:52.646,0:08:57.376 that they were going to organise 0:08:57.376,0:09:00.725 a huge ceremony of prayer 0:09:00.725,0:09:02.254 for peace[br] 0:09:02.254,0:09:05.091 between the south and the north. 0:09:05.444,0:09:09.199 The north now has nuclear weapons 0:09:10.480,0:09:15.510 and they sound to be belligerent. 0:09:16.458,0:09:19.399 And the south is fearful, 0:09:19.399,0:09:22.151 and they are afraid that a war will 0:09:22.151,0:09:23.825 break out very soon. 0:09:24.686,0:09:27.859 So in that talk I said that: "Dear friends. 0:09:29.096,0:09:31.934 The danger is not the nuclear weapons. 0:09:32.207,0:09:34.361 The danger is the fear. 0:09:34.785,0:09:38.240 If you look deeply into the north, you see 0:09:38.240,0:09:41.536 the amount, the huge amount of fear. 0:09:41.816,0:09:44.222 When the president of the south 0:09:44.222,0:09:48.711 visited America, the north may think 0:09:48.711,0:09:51.043 that there should be a scheme 0:09:51.381,0:09:53.372 to attack the north, 0:09:53.372,0:09:55.088 so they are very scared. 0:09:55.222,0:09:57.136 And they are doing their best 0:09:57.136,0:09:59.999 in order to show that they are not afraid, 0:09:59.999,0:10:02.428 that they are ready to fight and to kill. 0:10:02.638,0:10:06.438 So, the belligerent attitude outside, 0:10:06.493,0:10:09.051 in appearance, shows that there is 0:10:09.051,0:10:10.494 a big fear inside. 0:10:11.264,0:10:16.745 And if you see that fear, you are not... 0:10:16.745,0:10:18.821 – you are not angry them anymore. 0:10:18.821,0:10:21.245 And you know that the best thing 0:10:21.245,0:10:24.409 is to try to help removing that fear 0:10:24.409,0:10:26.609 of the people in the north. 0:10:27.158,0:10:28.783 But in order to do that, 0:10:28.783,0:10:31.625 you have to remove the fear in you first. 0:10:32.969,0:10:35.096 Because you are also afraid. 0:10:35.734,0:10:38.363 And that is why a prayer for peace[br]is not enough. 0:10:39.504,0:10:42.102 Coming together and praying is not enough. 0:10:42.102,0:10:43.477 You have to create – 0:10:43.477,0:10:45.350 you have to organise retreats 0:10:45.350,0:10:50.161 for politicians, school teachers, 0:10:53.132,0:10:54.425 business leaders, 0:10:55.245,0:10:57.872 and help them to look deeply, 0:10:58.105,0:11:00.884 to calm them down – themselves down, 0:11:01.244,0:11:04.633 and to remove their fear by understanding. 0:11:04.888,0:11:07.023 And when you are free from fear, 0:11:07.023,0:11:09.846 you can help the north to do the same. 0:11:10.504,0:11:15.757 So, it's not by political manoeuvring 0:11:15.757,0:11:19.846 that you can solve the problem. 0:11:19.846,0:11:22.028 It is that kind of practice 0:11:22.953,0:11:26.537 that can remove fear and anger in us 0:11:27.219,0:11:30.928 that can make us more peaceful 0:11:32.048,0:11:33.700 and compassionate. 0:11:33.700,0:11:35.603 And when you are more peaceful 0:11:35.603,0:11:36.724 and compassionate, 0:11:36.724,0:11:37.924 you can help the people [br] 0:11:37.924,0:11:39.021 on the other side 0:11:39.021,0:11:40.051 to do the same [br] 0:11:40.051,0:11:42.128 – to be a real peace maker. 0:11:42.365,0:11:44.732 And that is a process we have learned 0:11:44.732,0:11:46.771 from the buddhist tradition. 0:11:46.771,0:11:51.426 And as north Korea and south Korea, 0:11:51.426,0:11:53.076 they have had buddhism 0:11:53.076,0:11:55.052 as their spiritual tradition, 0:11:55.052,0:11:56.608 we believe that they can 0:11:56.608,0:11:58.527 make good use of their tradition 0:11:58.527,0:11:59.983 in order to practice 0:11:59.983,0:12:01.483 in order to get out of 0:12:01.483,0:12:03.594 this difficult situation. 0:12:04.015,0:12:05.847 And I think that the same things 0:12:05.847,0:12:11.297 should be true here – in the Middle East, 0:12:11.487,0:12:14.029 in Europe, in America and so on. 0:12:16.440,0:12:19.888 (Half bell) 0:12:21.388,0:12:52.181 (Bell)