WEBVTT 00:00:18.261 --> 00:00:21.641 When I was a little girl I had a dream 00:00:21.641 --> 00:00:27.075 that I would meet my prince charming, he would sweep me off my feet. 00:00:27.075 --> 00:00:31.758 We'd get married and maybe practice making some babies. 00:00:33.638 --> 00:00:37.362 And we would love happily ever after with a white picket fence. 00:00:39.289 --> 00:00:44.049 I did meet my prince charming, he swept me right off my feet. 00:00:44.049 --> 00:00:46.760 We had three beautiful children. 00:00:48.770 --> 00:00:52.896 And we were living a perfect life, and I had that white picket fence. 00:00:55.576 --> 00:00:57.659 About eight years into our marriage 00:00:57.659 --> 00:01:01.686 I began to get this sinking feeling in my intuition 00:01:01.686 --> 00:01:04.376 that something wasn't right. 00:01:04.376 --> 00:01:06.040 Was it me? 00:01:06.040 --> 00:01:07.658 Was it him? 00:01:07.658 --> 00:01:09.488 Was that our relationship? 00:01:09.488 --> 00:01:12.040 Something wasn't right. 00:01:12.040 --> 00:01:13.982 So, I asked him about it. 00:01:15.222 --> 00:01:16.641 And he laid my fears. 00:01:18.381 --> 00:01:22.574 And I had to conclude that I was the crazy one. 00:01:25.666 --> 00:01:31.340 One day on our bank account I found an amount that was spent 00:01:31.340 --> 00:01:35.588 that caused me to think that he was cheating on me. 00:01:38.358 --> 00:01:40.950 So, I confronted him about it. 00:01:42.380 --> 00:01:46.921 And he answered me emphatically in a kind way, 00:01:48.011 --> 00:01:53.140 "Emily, I would never cheat on you with another woman." 00:01:57.220 --> 00:02:01.238 Of course I didn't want to think that, and I had no idea how to respond, 00:02:01.238 --> 00:02:03.532 so I turned to my sarcastic self, 00:02:05.232 --> 00:02:09.582 and I said, "What are you then? Gay or something?" 00:02:12.292 --> 00:02:15.965 His silence spoke volumes that I didn't understand. 00:02:18.349 --> 00:02:20.910 He answered me with his own question, 00:02:22.590 --> 00:02:24.679 "So, you knew this whole time?" 00:02:29.539 --> 00:02:33.001 Over the next year and a half I dealt with so many things. 00:02:33.001 --> 00:02:36.095 I don't even have enough time to tell it all, 00:02:36.095 --> 00:02:40.471 but I'm going to give you a small list of some general things 00:02:40.471 --> 00:02:44.911 so that you get a grasp of what was going on for me. 00:02:46.744 --> 00:02:51.518 I felt alone, and I didn't want to tell anyone 00:02:51.518 --> 00:02:55.068 because I didn't want anyone to think I was stupid. 00:02:55.967 --> 00:02:58.326 How could I be so naiive? 00:03:00.639 --> 00:03:04.113 The last thing I wanted in the world was to get a divorce from my husband 00:03:04.113 --> 00:03:06.133 because I loved him. 00:03:07.929 --> 00:03:11.327 And there were people who absolutely said, 00:03:11.327 --> 00:03:15.086 "Your only option is to get a divorce, clearly." 00:03:16.306 --> 00:03:21.620 And there were others including myself struggled with both of these things. 00:03:22.940 --> 00:03:24.498 In order to remain true 00:03:24.498 --> 00:03:29.768 to my Christian values, my Christian faith my marriage vows and the Scripture, 00:03:30.298 --> 00:03:33.246 I had to stay married to him. 00:03:34.606 --> 00:03:36.105 I felt stuck. 00:03:38.425 --> 00:03:41.261 I tried manipulating him and changing who he was. 00:03:42.921 --> 00:03:44.475 I was in denial. 00:03:45.855 --> 00:03:47.687 I used the kids against him. 00:03:48.837 --> 00:03:51.075 I used the Scripture against him. 00:03:53.275 --> 00:03:55.053 And I was desperate. 00:03:57.233 --> 00:04:00.593 I was desperate because I didn't know who I was without him. 00:04:02.393 --> 00:04:04.308 Who was I apart him? 00:04:07.978 --> 00:04:11.534 My white picket fence and my perfect life crumbled. 00:04:16.094 --> 00:04:20.629 Now I want to speak to two different people today 00:04:20.629 --> 00:04:23.139 about this scenario. 00:04:23.139 --> 00:04:27.599 I'll be speaking first to what I will call the straight spouse. 00:04:27.599 --> 00:04:32.350 And then I'll be speaking to the other person in the relationship. 00:04:32.350 --> 00:04:36.950 Sometimes I might refer to it as LGBTQ, lots of letters. 00:04:36.950 --> 00:04:39.180 There's more than that. 00:04:39.880 --> 00:04:42.114 Or I will say, "gay or lesbian spouse." 00:04:42.114 --> 00:04:44.602 So just know that they are interchangeable 00:04:44.602 --> 00:04:46.912 in this context at this point. 00:04:46.912 --> 00:04:52.028 My hope though even if you haven't hopefully had to deal with this, 00:04:52.028 --> 00:04:56.278 is that you will glean something from it for yourself 00:04:56.278 --> 00:05:01.400 because there, I feel, are some good principles here. 00:05:01.400 --> 00:05:03.854 First, to the straight spouse. 00:05:06.004 --> 00:05:07.912 I want to tell you two things. 00:05:09.892 --> 00:05:13.885 One: you are not alone. 00:05:15.575 --> 00:05:18.575 Now I'm going to repeat that. 00:05:18.575 --> 00:05:20.237 You are not alone. 00:05:22.277 --> 00:05:28.248 There ware hundreds of thousands, some estimates up to two million of us 00:05:28.248 --> 00:05:32.249 who would either be gone through it, or are going through it, 00:05:33.497 --> 00:05:35.680 or just might go through it. 00:05:39.430 --> 00:05:41.892 The interesting thing is that 00:05:44.912 --> 00:05:47.202 there is no how-to book, 00:05:48.232 --> 00:05:51.680 there is no black and yellow "Straight Spouse for Dummies." 00:05:53.865 --> 00:05:59.100 Now if there was either A: I would love to write it 00:05:59.100 --> 00:06:03.558 or B: I wouldn't even be up here, wouldn't need to be. 00:06:03.558 --> 00:06:08.922 When you're going through something that doesn't have a step-by-step program 00:06:08.922 --> 00:06:12.115 you've got to find people who have been where you are 00:06:12.115 --> 00:06:14.731 and are going through it. 00:06:14.731 --> 00:06:18.538 Finding other people helps you know you're not alone, 00:06:18.538 --> 00:06:22.313 and it is a great step towards healing. 00:06:25.743 --> 00:06:28.294 The second thing I want to tell the straight spouse 00:06:28.294 --> 00:06:31.277 is to find out who you are at your core. 00:06:31.277 --> 00:06:34.087 Now I'm going to explain that briefly. 00:06:35.157 --> 00:06:40.023 When two people get into a relationship no matter how long you've been together 00:06:40.023 --> 00:06:41.966 especially the longer you've been together, 00:06:41.966 --> 00:06:46.298 you end up losing, potentially, part of your identity, 00:06:46.298 --> 00:06:48.452 and melting it with the other person. 00:06:48.452 --> 00:06:50.549 Now it's not necessarily a bad thing. 00:06:52.809 --> 00:06:55.676 But whenever betrayal happens 00:06:57.056 --> 00:06:59.095 you have to flounder 00:06:59.095 --> 00:07:02.127 if you don't have something solid to stand on. 00:07:03.039 --> 00:07:07.352 So once that happens if it happens and I pray that it doesn't happen to you, 00:07:07.522 --> 00:07:11.404 find out who you are at your core, and know and love yourself 00:07:11.404 --> 00:07:14.625 because if you're going to be making decisions that are difficult, 00:07:14.625 --> 00:07:16.500 and you will be. 00:07:16.500 --> 00:07:18.863 You've got to have something solid to stand on. 00:07:18.863 --> 00:07:22.969 If you're ging to be setting a boundary that is very difficult to keep, 00:07:22.969 --> 00:07:26.151 you have to know and love yourself at your core, 00:07:26.151 --> 00:07:27.151 so that you have something solid 00:07:27.151 --> 00:07:29.144 to stand on. 00:07:29.144 --> 00:07:31.363 It's a great step for healing. 00:07:33.123 --> 00:07:39.018 Now, to the LGBTQ, the gay or lesbian spouse 00:07:41.178 --> 00:07:42.178 I want you to acknowledge something first. 00:07:43.524 --> 00:07:46.524 Well, 00:07:46.524 --> 00:07:51.349 I know that it's tough coming out. 00:07:53.219 --> 00:07:57.209 There's nobody here in my world that's going to say 00:07:57.209 --> 00:07:59.022 that's a bad thing. 00:07:59.022 --> 00:08:03.054 I used to think that until my husband came out. 00:08:05.204 --> 00:08:07.967 So I'm going to give you two pieces of advice 00:08:07.967 --> 00:08:11.957 because I believe that it is necessary to share that. 00:08:11.957 --> 00:08:17.354 I get contacts from people on my blog and through other websites 00:08:18.114 --> 00:08:22.905 asking "What can I do to help my spouse?" and thank you for wanting to help. 00:08:23.685 --> 00:08:26.654 So here're my two pieces of advice for you. 00:08:28.054 --> 00:08:30.258 Tell the truth. 00:08:31.413 --> 00:08:32.393 All of it. 00:08:35.518 --> 00:08:40.543 It's easy to think that once you tell the truth, 00:08:40.543 --> 00:08:43.759 it feels like a light load off of you, right? 00:08:43.759 --> 00:08:47.332 Now, you've carried this load whether you know your whole life or not, 00:08:47.332 --> 00:08:50.285 and you take that burden off because you figure out and it feels good. 00:08:50.285 --> 00:08:51.243 I know it does. 00:08:51.243 --> 00:08:53.992 That's not saying it's going to be easy from there on now. 00:08:53.992 --> 00:08:57.425 But you take that burden off of your shoulders, 00:08:57.425 --> 00:09:02.479 and put it squarely on the shoulders of your unsuspecting spouse. 00:09:04.463 --> 00:09:08.245 And let's just pretend you walk away because that is what it kind of feels like 00:09:10.865 --> 00:09:15.481 "Not doing this to beat anyone up, just want you to understand." 00:09:15.481 --> 00:09:20.505 So when we ask you for the truth, don't give us a half truth, 00:09:20.505 --> 00:09:24.834 don't not tell us because you were afraid to hurt us more. 00:09:26.716 --> 00:09:31.305 We have pieces missing from that moment backward 00:09:31.305 --> 00:09:34.772 that we need to understand and the only way to understand that 00:09:34.772 --> 00:09:37.446 is to get the full truth. 00:09:37.446 --> 00:09:39.251 So I want to encourage you. 00:09:39.251 --> 00:09:41.426 When your spouse asks you, you don't walk away 00:09:41.426 --> 00:09:46.037 because you feel lighter and you don't think it matters because of this. 00:09:47.247 --> 00:09:52.108 The second thing I want to tell the gay or lesbian spouses is: 00:09:52.108 --> 00:09:57.345 be humble and do what you can to make amends. 00:09:57.345 --> 00:10:01.522 Now you can't go back and change anything, 00:10:01.522 --> 00:10:05.876 worrying about the past is not going to help you at all. 00:10:05.876 --> 00:10:10.063 But from that moment forward I want to encourage you 00:10:10.063 --> 00:10:14.742 to not say the words "Sorry, but..." 00:10:17.129 --> 00:10:22.933 as in "I'm sorry I hurt you, but I couldn't help it." 00:10:25.853 --> 00:10:27.815 You see when we make excuses 00:10:27.815 --> 00:10:31.298 it builds up walls of bitterness and defensiveness for both parties. 00:10:31.798 --> 00:10:36.503 What we want to hear and feel is true humility 00:10:36.503 --> 00:10:38.848 because we know when we hear it. 00:10:38.848 --> 00:10:42.136 And it feels like we can heal finally. 00:10:45.436 --> 00:10:47.591 I can't tell you what to say. 00:10:47.591 --> 00:10:51.243 I don't know what that's going to look like in your relationship, 00:10:51.243 --> 00:10:55.299 but I do know that when I hear from other straight spouses 00:10:55.299 --> 00:10:58.243 who had a spouse who came out, 00:10:58.243 --> 00:11:02.404 and it truly humbled their heart before them in some way. 00:11:02.811 --> 00:11:05.822 It is such a gateway to healing for us. 00:11:05.822 --> 00:11:10.161 So whatever that is for you I want to encourage you to do it. 00:11:11.361 --> 00:11:12.081 Now. 00:11:13.611 --> 00:11:16.162 When hurt happens in a relationship 00:11:17.122 --> 00:11:19.907 the healing can seem impossible if you feel alone; 00:11:21.587 --> 00:11:25.880 the healing seems unattainable if you don't know all the truth. 00:11:28.420 --> 00:11:32.122 Healing can seem unfathomable 00:11:32.122 --> 00:11:35.847 if the one who hurt you is humble about it. 00:11:37.527 --> 00:11:40.490 About the straight spouse and the LGBTQ spouse: 00:11:43.080 --> 00:11:44.136 be authentic, 00:11:45.936 --> 00:11:48.216 know and love yourself. 00:11:50.026 --> 00:11:54.935 And above all, more humbly do what you can to help others heal. 00:11:55.705 --> 00:12:00.142 Now, lastly to my ex-husband 00:12:01.712 --> 00:12:04.312 whom I love and support, 00:12:05.832 --> 00:12:09.517 I want to thank him for coming out 00:12:09.517 --> 00:12:14.780 because if he hadn't, I wouldn't know and love who I am, 00:12:14.780 --> 00:12:17.643 regardless of anyone or anything 00:12:17.643 --> 00:12:22.873 including this imperfect life that I've lived. 00:12:22.873 --> 00:12:24.205 Thank you. 00:12:24.205 --> 00:12:28.737 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