WEBVTT 00:00:29.615 --> 00:00:31.433 [Brian Jungen] Eu não cresci na costa. 00:00:31.433 --> 00:00:37.421 Eu realmente gosto de estar perto do oceano. Mas eu gosto de ir visitá-lo e depois ir embora novamente. 00:00:38.460 --> 00:00:43.800 Quando eu morava no litoral, eu fui muito influenciado pela arte das Primeiras Nações 00:00:43.800 --> 00:00:49.559 na costa, e eu estava interessado em como algo 00:00:49.559 --> 00:00:55.680 muito específico como os motifs da costa e imagens costeiras 00:00:55.680 --> 00:01:03.320 passar a ser algo que era realmente associado a toda a província 00:01:05.339 --> 00:01:11.107 Eu tinha ouvido falar da última orca assassina, eu estava saindo do Aquário de Vancouver, então eu queria filmá-la, então 00:01:11.107 --> 00:01:15.314 e foi quando eu meio que tropecei sobre o que costumava ser uma grande indústria, 00:01:15.314 --> 00:01:18.768 a indústria baleeira no Costa oeste. 00:01:19.299 --> 00:01:26.401 A imagem da baleia foi bastante difundida, difundida em todas as culturas nativas marítimas. 00:01:34.380 --> 00:01:38.759 Quando fiz a primeira, todas desse tipo vieram junto 00:01:38.759 --> 00:01:43.774 trabalhando com aquelas cadeiras deixei muitas pistas que as pessoas poderiam dizer o que eram. 00:01:45.853 --> 00:01:48.180 Você pode comprar essas cadeiras em qualquer lugar, 00:01:48.180 --> 00:01:49.664 e são baratas. 00:01:51.899 --> 00:01:56.759 O tipo de mudança que acontece, a faísca, certo, 00:01:56.759 --> 00:01:59.217 isso faz com que as pessoas se interessem. 00:02:04.734 --> 00:02:15.476 ♪ ♪ 00:02:16.680 --> 00:02:21.900 Se você perguntar a qualquer índio nativo "De onde você é?" 00:02:21.900 --> 00:02:25.928 eles realmente não diriam a cidade em que por acaso moravam. 00:02:25.928 --> 00:02:31.003 Eles diriam de onde suas relações de sangue são. 00:02:31.379 --> 00:02:37.166 Eu sou Dane-zaa, então isso é uma parte muito específica do país. 00:02:40.140 --> 00:02:44.280 Mas me mudei para Vancouver quando eu tinha 18 anos para ir para uma escola de arte, 00:02:44.280 --> 00:02:47.800 e essa foi a primeira vez que morei em uma cidade. 00:02:50.565 --> 00:02:52.800 Eu amo as oportunidades e a cultura 00:02:52.800 --> 00:02:59.641 ao seu redor quando você está em uma cidade, mas eu prefiro viver aqui fora. 00:03:01.560 --> 00:03:05.067 É bom ver todo essa sálvia florindo, né? 00:03:15.780 --> 00:03:20.010 Minha infância foi passada em uma fazenda de gado muito grande, 00:03:21.735 --> 00:03:23.940 então, quando eu era criança, 00:03:24.117 --> 00:03:28.800 Eu passei muito tempo fora na floresta com os cachorros. 00:03:28.800 --> 00:03:31.542 Eles eram como os meus guardiões. 00:03:32.736 --> 00:03:34.498 Ed é um vira-lata do norte de Alberta. 00:03:35.700 --> 00:03:38.582 Ele é o chefe deste lugar de algumas maneiras. 00:03:38.582 --> 00:03:42.023 Por exemplo, todos ouvimos ao Ed. 00:03:43.860 --> 00:03:48.051 Então, sim, isso é do outro lado da estrada pra lá, esses pastos fazem parte da propriedade 00:03:48.404 --> 00:03:53.306 e lá em cima na encosta e lá em cima também. 00:03:54.540 --> 00:03:57.131 My ancestors were promised they could 00:03:57.131 --> 00:04:02.402 either live on reserve, or they would be given land, 00:04:03.234 --> 00:04:04.866 but none of it was honored. 00:04:05.949 --> 00:04:17.729 ♪ ♪ 00:04:24.617 --> 00:04:28.231 When I started working with shoes in the nineties, 00:04:28.740 --> 00:04:31.234 I went into Niketown. 00:04:31.831 --> 00:04:35.313 They had sneakers of theirs in glass vitrines, 00:04:35.313 --> 00:04:37.619 and I thought that was so strange. 00:04:38.880 --> 00:04:44.280 I started to make connections between the commodification of those shoes and 00:04:44.280 --> 00:04:47.122 the same thing that's happened to Native art. 00:04:49.620 --> 00:04:53.580 And then there was just kind of a strange coincidence that the color 00:04:53.580 --> 00:04:58.484 schemes and designs look very similar to Northwest Coast masks 00:05:00.180 --> 00:05:05.580 There was this kind of illicit thrill I got by buying these Air Jordans and, like, 00:05:05.580 --> 00:05:09.300 immediately starting to cut them up and stuff. 00:05:09.300 --> 00:05:13.139 So, yeah, and that was my first kind of foray 00:05:13.139 --> 00:05:16.362 into making objects. 00:05:18.684 --> 00:05:21.274 [chains rattling] 00:05:22.157 --> 00:05:23.287 - Tch, tch. 00:05:26.758 --> 00:05:30.080 I'm a pretty quiet person. 00:05:30.537 --> 00:05:34.880 I was kind of raised around cowboy culture, so there's a lot of aggression 00:05:34.880 --> 00:05:39.525 but it's not really how I approach the world. 00:05:39.835 --> 00:05:42.360 - That's right. Attaboy. 00:05:42.360 --> 00:05:46.979 So I didn't have much access to culture growing up in the north, so I had, 00:05:46.979 --> 00:05:53.180 like one television station AM radio, kind of thing. 00:05:55.000 --> 00:05:59.580 My folks died when I was 7, so I just kind 00:05:59.580 --> 00:06:05.839 kind of like buried myself in these--my imagination. 00:06:09.538 --> 00:06:11.340 I used to make artwork because I thought 00:06:11.340 --> 00:06:13.406 I could hide behind it, 00:06:14.600 --> 00:06:16.361 and that turned out not to be the case. 00:06:16.361 --> 00:06:22.580 My artwork became so tied up with my identity, especially as Native Canadian, 00:06:22.580 --> 00:06:30.388 that it was almost impossible to talk about my artwork without my identity. 00:06:33.180 --> 00:06:38.340 An uncle of mine showed me how to make drums years ago, and I'm not a very good 00:06:38.340 --> 00:06:43.620 musician, but whenever I'm home, like, my cousins will kind of thrust a drum at me 00:06:43.620 --> 00:06:46.979 to, like, participate, and it's great. I love it, 00:06:47.090 --> 00:06:50.180 but I wanted to make some of my own. 00:06:53.699 --> 00:06:57.707 I've always also really liked modern furniture. 00:07:01.440 --> 00:07:07.101 So I kind of used those chairs to make these drums, 00:07:07.396 --> 00:07:12.916 give them a life other than a utilitarian furniture, right? 00:07:14.039 --> 00:07:16.733 Kind of give them a voice. 00:07:19.690 --> 00:07:25.220 [strumming guitar] 00:07:33.669 --> 00:07:36.762 Yeah, I--I like vehicles. 00:07:37.500 --> 00:07:42.840 I have a nice Impala now. It's my summer car really. 00:07:42.840 --> 00:07:45.000 I cruise around in that. 00:07:45.553 --> 00:07:47.698 ♪ ♪ 00:07:48.240 --> 00:07:51.552 When I was an adolescent and into my 20s, 00:07:51.552 --> 00:07:56.585 I had to figure out who I was and kind of come out of the closet, 00:07:57.360 --> 00:08:04.829 but that's really not an issue anymore. I think gay culture's kind of mainstream... 00:08:06.780 --> 00:08:11.480 and I never really fit into that stereotype anyways. 00:08:15.720 --> 00:08:21.080 My family are hunters. it's very common in Canada, 00:08:21.780 --> 00:08:26.330 but a lot of my family have freezers to keep moose meat in, 00:08:26.330 --> 00:08:28.990 and a lot of the times, they're outside. 00:08:30.120 --> 00:08:35.279 When I was visiting family, and I started making these temporary sculptures and 00:08:35.279 --> 00:08:37.919 sticking them on top of the freezers because they were like the perfect 00:08:37.919 --> 00:08:38.935 pedestal, 00:08:41.039 --> 00:08:45.947 and I liked kind of seeing that, like some people would just--they thought like 00:08:45.947 --> 00:08:49.459 "Who put all this crap on here?" and other people, they would look at it and say, 00:08:49.459 --> 00:08:55.685 "Oh, that's an artwork, right?" So I decided to take that into the studio. 00:08:56.459 --> 00:09:02.420 I like using things people can recognize that they see around them every day. 00:09:18.324 --> 00:09:19.927 [synth music] 00:09:22.688 --> 00:09:26.220 [Sewing machine running] 00:09:30.899 --> 00:09:37.052 This new series I just started, it's gonna be shown in Vancouver in January. 00:09:40.019 --> 00:09:44.540 I wanted to revisit the material it's been about 10 years, 00:09:44.540 --> 00:09:48.574 and I wanted to do it in a new way. 00:09:50.700 --> 00:09:56.104 When I first made them, I was just kind of slowly taking them apart piece by piece, 00:09:56.104 --> 00:10:01.159 and now I just am much more fluid with it. 00:10:02.334 --> 00:10:05.089 - Oh, there are like kind of horns. 00:10:05.089 --> 00:10:07.089 [Saw whirring] 00:10:07.500 --> 00:10:12.000 I work very intuitively. We just tighten everything up and then 00:10:12.000 --> 00:10:15.000 start cutting see what happens. 00:10:15.668 --> 00:10:17.756 I--I don't have an idea of what it's gonna look 00:10:17.756 --> 00:10:22.680 like in my head, so it will be finished when it feels finished. 00:10:41.063 --> 00:10:45.183 You know, I always say to myself, "I'm not gonna work like this anymore, 00:10:45.183 --> 00:10:50.000 and things are gonna be done weeks ahead of the opening," 00:10:50.000 --> 00:10:53.557 but I guess a part of me still likes the kind 00:10:53.557 --> 00:10:57.636 of intensity of working down to the wire. 00:10:58.543 --> 00:10:59.738 - This will be attached? 00:10:59.738 --> 00:11:01.280 Have you figured out how that's gonna work? 00:11:01.280 --> 00:11:01.980 - No. 00:11:01.980 --> 00:11:03.147 - No, no. 00:11:04.800 --> 00:11:06.056 - So... 00:11:07.892 --> 00:11:08.719 Yeah. 00:11:09.625 --> 00:11:11.675 - Well, and hope for the best. 00:11:11.675 --> 00:11:12.839 [laughs] 00:11:12.839 --> 00:11:16.939 [synth sounds] 00:11:17.093 --> 00:11:21.827 I wanted to make these ones more abstract. 00:11:25.743 --> 00:11:28.860 I think when I made the first ones I was 00:11:28.860 --> 00:11:34.771 interested in referencing them to what people thought native art is. 00:11:39.240 --> 00:11:43.012 Now I've kind of moved away from that. 00:11:45.600 --> 00:11:51.770 And some of these just feel like 20th century modern sculpture. 00:11:55.287 --> 00:11:59.756 [strumming guitar] 00:12:00.309 --> 00:12:04.700 I'm involved in a contemporary art community that is very exclusive 00:12:05.142 --> 00:12:08.441 ♪ ♪ 00:12:10.838 --> 00:12:14.220 I don't know. There's all different sorts of art worlds. 00:12:14.220 --> 00:12:17.480 There's a whole Native American art world. 00:12:17.480 --> 00:12:21.373 ♪ ♪ 00:12:21.373 --> 00:12:25.159 I kind of have a bit of a hand in that. 00:12:25.159 --> 00:12:31.040 ♪ ♪ 00:12:31.549 --> 00:12:36.049 If I hadn't gone to art school, if my parents hadn't died, 00:12:36.049 --> 00:12:40.482 I probably would have wound up working on the family farm 00:12:41.544 --> 00:12:44.530 and making art in secret. 00:12:44.530 --> 00:12:48.309 ♪ ♪ 00:12:52.314 --> 00:12:55.414 [soft electronic music]