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[Brian Jungen]
Eu não cresci na costa.

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Eu realmente gosto de estar perto do oceano. Mas eu gosto de ir
visitá-lo e depois ir embora novamente.

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Quando eu morava no litoral, eu
fui muito influenciado pela arte das Primeiras Nações

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na costa,
e eu estava interessado em como algo

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muito específico
como os motifs da costa e imagens costeiras

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passar a ser algo que era realmente
associado a toda a província

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Eu tinha ouvido falar da última orca assassina, eu
estava saindo do Aquário de Vancouver, então eu queria filmá-la, então

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e foi quando eu meio que tropecei
sobre o que costumava ser uma grande indústria,

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a indústria baleeira no
Costa oeste.

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A imagem da baleia foi bastante difundida,
difundida em todas as culturas nativas marítimas.

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Quando fiz a primeira, todas
desse tipo vieram junto

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trabalhando com aquelas cadeiras deixei muitas
pistas que as pessoas poderiam dizer o que eram.

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Você pode comprar essas cadeiras
em qualquer lugar,

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e são baratas.

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O tipo de mudança que acontece,
a faísca, certo,

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isso faz com que as pessoas se interessem.

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Se você perguntar a qualquer índio nativo
"De onde você é?"

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eles realmente não diriam a
cidade em que por acaso moravam.

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Eles diriam de onde suas
relações de sangue são.

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Eu sou Dane-zaa, então isso é uma
parte muito específica do país.

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Mas me mudei para Vancouver quando
eu tinha 18 anos para ir para uma escola de arte,

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e essa foi a primeira vez que morei em uma
cidade.

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Eu amo as oportunidades e a cultura

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ao seu redor quando você está em uma cidade, mas
eu prefiro viver aqui fora.

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É bom ver todo essa sálvia
florindo, né?

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Minha infância foi passada em uma
fazenda de gado muito grande,

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então, quando eu era criança,

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Eu passei muito tempo fora na
floresta com os cachorros.

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Eles eram como os meus
guardiões.

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Ed é um vira-lata do norte de Alberta.

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Ele é o chefe deste lugar de
algumas maneiras.

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Por exemplo, todos ouvimos ao Ed.

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Então, sim, isso é do outro lado da
estrada pra lá, esses pastos fazem parte da propriedade

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e lá em cima na encosta e lá em cima também.

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My ancestors were promised
they could

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either live on reserve, or
they would be given land,

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but none of it was honored.

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When I started working with
shoes in the nineties,

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I went into Niketown.

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They had sneakers of theirs in
glass vitrines,

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and I thought that was so
strange.

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I started to make connections between
the commodification of those shoes and

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the same thing that's happened to Native art.

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And then there was just kind
of a strange coincidence that the color

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schemes and designs look very similar to
Northwest Coast masks

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There was this kind of illicit
thrill I got by buying these Air Jordans and, like,

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immediately starting to cut them up 
and stuff.

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So, yeah, and that was my
first kind of foray

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into making objects.

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[chains rattling]

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- Tch, tch.

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I'm a pretty quiet person.

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I was kind of raised around cowboy culture, so
there's a lot of aggression

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but it's not really how I approach the
world.

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- That's right. Attaboy.

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So I didn't have much access to culture
growing up in the north, so I had,

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like one television station AM radio,
kind of thing.

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My folks died when I was 7, so
I just kind

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kind of like
buried myself in these--my imagination.

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I used to make artwork because
I thought

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I could hide behind it,

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and that turned out not to be
the case.

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My artwork became so tied up
with my identity, especially as Native Canadian,

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that it was almost impossible to talk
about my artwork without my identity.

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An uncle of mine showed me how
to make drums years ago, and I'm not a very good

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musician, but whenever I'm home, like, my
cousins will kind of thrust a drum at me

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to, like, participate, and it's great. I
love it,

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but I wanted to make some of my own.

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I've always also really liked modern
furniture.

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So I kind of used those chairs
to make these drums,

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give them a life other than a
utilitarian furniture, right?

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Kind of give them a voice.

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[strumming guitar]

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Yeah, I--I like vehicles.

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I have a nice Impala now.
It's my summer car really.

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I cruise around in that.

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When I was an adolescent and
into my 20s,

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I had to figure out who I was
and kind of come out of the closet,

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but that's really not an issue anymore. 
I think gay culture's kind of mainstream...

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and I never really fit into that
stereotype anyways.

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My family are hunters. it's very 
common in Canada,

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but a lot of my family have freezers to
keep moose meat in,

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and a lot of the times, they're outside.

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When I was visiting family, and I started
making these temporary sculptures and

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sticking them on top of the freezers
because they were like the perfect

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pedestal,

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and I liked kind of seeing
that, like some people would just--they thought like

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"Who put all this crap on here?" and other people, they would look at it and say,

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"Oh, that's an
artwork, right?" So I decided to take that into the studio.

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I like using things people can recognize
that they see around them every day.

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[synth music]

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[Sewing machine running]

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This new series I just
started, it's gonna be shown in Vancouver in January.

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I wanted to revisit the material it's
been about 10 years,

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and I wanted to do it in a new way.

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When I first made them, I was just kind 
of slowly taking them apart piece by piece,

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and now I just am much more
fluid with it.

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- Oh, there are like kind of
horns.

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[Saw whirring]

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I work very intuitively.
We just tighten everything up
and then

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start cutting see what happens.

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I--I don't have an idea of what
it's gonna look

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like in my head, so it will be
finished when it feels finished.

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You know, I always say to myself, 
"I'm not gonna work like this anymore,

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and things are gonna be done
weeks ahead of the opening,"

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but I guess a part of me still
likes the kind

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of intensity of working down
to the wire.

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- This will be attached?

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Have you figured out how
that's gonna work?

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- No.

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- No, no.

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- So...

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Yeah.

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- Well, and hope for the best.

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[laughs]

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[synth sounds]

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I wanted to make these
ones more abstract.

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I think when I made the first
ones I was

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interested in referencing them to what
people thought native art is.

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Now I've kind of moved away
from that.

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And some of these just feel
like 20th century modern sculpture.

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[strumming guitar]

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I'm involved in a contemporary art
community that is very exclusive

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I don't know. There's all
different sorts of art worlds.

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There's a whole Native
American art world.

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♪ ♪

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I kind of have a bit of a hand
in that.

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If I hadn't gone to art
school, if my parents hadn't died,

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I probably would have wound up working on the family farm

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and making art in secret.

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♪ ♪

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[soft electronic music]