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Dialogue: 0,0:00:00.66,0:00:07.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Music]
Dialogue: 0,0:00:07.76,0:00:10.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,welcome to the gamedev.tv
Dialogue: 0,0:00:10.00,0:00:13.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,community podcast i'm your host kb and i
Dialogue: 0,0:00:13.04,0:00:14.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,would like to introduce you
Dialogue: 0,0:00:14.32,0:00:16.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to industry professionals and people who
Dialogue: 0,0:00:16.40,0:00:18.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,successfully made their path
Dialogue: 0,0:00:18.24,0:00:19.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to the video game industry i hope that
Dialogue: 0,0:00:19.68,0:00:21.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you will enjoy the podcast and get
Dialogue: 0,0:00:21.36,0:00:22.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,useful tips that'll bring you closer to
Dialogue: 0,0:00:22.96,0:00:24.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,achieving your dreams
Dialogue: 0,0:00:24.32,0:00:27.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,now let's get right into the podcast
Dialogue: 0,0:00:27.04,0:00:29.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,lauren googie welcome to the gamedev.tv
Dialogue: 0,0:00:29.44,0:00:31.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,podcast
Dialogue: 0,0:00:31.44,0:00:33.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,thank you if you are a ceo of the
Dialogue: 0,0:00:33.92,0:00:34.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,cinematic pie
Dialogue: 0,0:00:34.88,0:00:39.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,correct chromatic pie or magpie my bad
Dialogue: 0,0:00:39.04,0:00:40.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i knew it i was like i looked it up
Dialogue: 0,0:00:40.88,0:00:42.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,early and i was like i don't think
Dialogue: 0,0:00:42.24,0:00:42.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's right
Dialogue: 0,0:00:42.80,0:00:44.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we had a chromatic pie so explain a
Dialogue: 0,0:00:44.64,0:00:46.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,little bit what that that is and a
Dialogue: 0,0:00:46.08,0:00:47.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,little bit about who you are and then
Dialogue: 0,0:00:47.04,0:00:49.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we'll go from there
Dialogue: 0,0:00:49.04,0:00:51.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,well uh my name is lauren and i'm born
Dialogue: 0,0:00:51.84,0:00:53.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and raised in new zealand
Dialogue: 0,0:00:53.20,0:00:56.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,down under under and um i
Dialogue: 0,0:00:56.64,0:01:00.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just have a passion for video games as a
Dialogue: 0,0:01:00.00,0:01:02.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,lot of us do it's very deep seated for
Dialogue: 0,0:01:02.24,0:01:02.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,me from
Dialogue: 0,0:01:02.80,0:01:06.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,childhood um and i just
Dialogue: 0,0:01:06.48,0:01:08.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i just found my home really i found i'm
Dialogue: 0,0:01:08.80,0:01:10.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so lucky that i've found
Dialogue: 0,0:01:10.16,0:01:12.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a place where i can grow a career and
Dialogue: 0,0:01:12.32,0:01:14.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,really expand into all sorts of
Dialogue: 0,0:01:14.32,0:01:14.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,different
Dialogue: 0,0:01:14.96,0:01:17.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,corners of it which is what i'm doing
Dialogue: 0,0:01:17.20,0:01:19.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with chromatic pie
Dialogue: 0,0:01:19.28,0:01:21.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's awesome yes i saw the little bit
Dialogue: 0,0:01:21.92,0:01:22.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about it
Dialogue: 0,0:01:22.56,0:01:24.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you're basically trying to represent all
Dialogue: 0,0:01:24.88,0:01:26.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,communities
Dialogue: 0,0:01:26.00,0:01:28.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in one basically right yeah so that's
Dialogue: 0,0:01:28.72,0:01:30.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's really good nowadays because it's
Dialogue: 0,0:01:30.16,0:01:32.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like we need more of that so people can
Dialogue: 0,0:01:32.24,0:01:33.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,feel like representative and just
Dialogue: 0,0:01:33.76,0:01:35.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,connected and all that stuff but i want
Dialogue: 0,0:01:35.60,0:01:36.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to get
Dialogue: 0,0:01:36.00,0:01:38.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to how you got started follow this so
Dialogue: 0,0:01:38.40,0:01:40.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,back when you were younger did you
Dialogue: 0,0:01:40.64,0:01:42.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,play a lot of games were you into game
Dialogue: 0,0:01:42.00,0:01:43.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,design or you were just doing your thing
Dialogue: 0,0:01:43.68,0:01:44.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like
Dialogue: 0,0:01:44.08,0:01:47.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what's your story my story so when i was
Dialogue: 0,0:01:47.60,0:01:48.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,younger um
Dialogue: 0,0:01:48.80,0:01:51.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,my my dad was a gamer since before i was
Dialogue: 0,0:01:51.44,0:01:51.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,born
Dialogue: 0,0:01:51.92,0:01:54.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so i would watch him play quake doom and
Dialogue: 0,0:01:54.72,0:01:56.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,half-life
Dialogue: 0,0:01:56.48,0:01:59.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,probably a bit too young to watch but
Dialogue: 0,0:01:59.76,0:02:01.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like i just loved it you know i
Dialogue: 0,0:02:01.92,0:02:04.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he'd play it and i was so enthralled by
Dialogue: 0,0:02:04.80,0:02:06.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what was going on on this computer
Dialogue: 0,0:02:06.64,0:02:08.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,screen and it was like a whole
Dialogue: 0,0:02:08.00,0:02:11.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,new experience whole new world for me so
Dialogue: 0,0:02:11.12,0:02:12.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i grew up
Dialogue: 0,0:02:12.00,0:02:15.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with that and so we had the sega master
Dialogue: 0,0:02:15.20,0:02:16.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,system too which i
Dialogue: 0,0:02:16.48,0:02:19.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,still have it's uh on one of my shelves
Dialogue: 0,0:02:19.20,0:02:23.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the lounge with all the games
Dialogue: 0,0:02:27.28,0:02:30.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,um i have chuck rock and
Dialogue: 0,0:02:30.88,0:02:36.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i've got asterisks and a balux
Dialogue: 0,0:02:36.75,0:02:39.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Music]
Dialogue: 0,0:02:41.04,0:02:43.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,um so we had that one and then of course
Dialogue: 0,0:02:43.60,0:02:46.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we went up to the playstation one
Dialogue: 0,0:02:46.32,0:02:49.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,my dad also had a a game boy um and a
Dialogue: 0,0:02:49.76,0:02:51.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,few of the types of those
Dialogue: 0,0:02:51.60,0:02:53.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,um but that was like his one he didn't
Dialogue: 0,0:02:53.44,0:02:55.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,let us play on it too much because it
Dialogue: 0,0:02:55.36,0:02:56.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was
Dialogue: 0,0:02:56.56,0:02:59.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it was his thing yeah you want to mess
Dialogue: 0,0:02:59.92,0:03:01.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,up the save data
Dialogue: 0,0:03:01.68,0:03:04.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,yeah um and then yeah
Dialogue: 0,0:03:04.72,0:03:07.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just their ps2 uh xbox you know it just
Dialogue: 0,0:03:07.84,0:03:10.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sort of it just evolved over time and
Dialogue: 0,0:03:10.16,0:03:11.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when i was at school i would quite often
Dialogue: 0,0:03:11.84,0:03:13.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just come home and uh
Dialogue: 0,0:03:13.76,0:03:15.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know drop my bag down and just play
Dialogue: 0,0:03:15.84,0:03:17.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,video games
Dialogue: 0,0:03:17.04,0:03:19.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,um until you know homework or dinner
Dialogue: 0,0:03:19.84,0:03:20.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,time so
Dialogue: 0,0:03:20.48,0:03:22.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for me video games has always been a
Dialogue: 0,0:03:22.32,0:03:24.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,part of my life um
Dialogue: 0,0:03:24.16,0:03:26.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for me i i started in the entertainment
Dialogue: 0,0:03:26.40,0:03:27.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,aspect of things
Dialogue: 0,0:03:27.68,0:03:29.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i was going through quite a hard time in
Dialogue: 0,0:03:29.76,0:03:32.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,my life in my early 20s and i found this
Dialogue: 0,0:03:32.72,0:03:33.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,youtuber
Dialogue: 0,0:03:33.44,0:03:35.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,called the red bread and so i started
Dialogue: 0,0:03:35.92,0:03:36.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,watching his
Dialogue: 0,0:03:36.96,0:03:39.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,let's plays and you know he helped me
Dialogue: 0,0:03:39.84,0:03:41.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,through my situation
Dialogue: 0,0:03:41.44,0:03:43.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you know we all go through things
Dialogue: 0,0:03:43.68,0:03:44.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but i found that
Dialogue: 0,0:03:44.96,0:03:47.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,people playing video games for others
Dialogue: 0,0:03:47.84,0:03:49.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was just this amazing medium and i
Dialogue: 0,0:03:49.92,0:03:51.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,really wanted to tap into that myself
Dialogue: 0,0:03:51.84,0:03:52.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and so
Dialogue: 0,0:03:52.72,0:03:54.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's really where my uh streaming
Dialogue: 0,0:03:54.40,0:03:55.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,career began
Dialogue: 0,0:03:55.84,0:04:00.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and i this is a lengthy story
Dialogue: 0,0:04:00.40,0:04:03.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,no worries yeah it's all good we all
Dialogue: 0,0:04:03.52,0:04:05.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,want to hear it
Dialogue: 0,0:04:05.12,0:04:08.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,yeah yeah so i guess from you know
Dialogue: 0,0:04:08.00,0:04:09.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,streaming on twitch it just sort of took
Dialogue: 0,0:04:09.92,0:04:10.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,off
Dialogue: 0,0:04:10.88,0:04:13.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and uh i just i just loved interacting
Dialogue: 0,0:04:13.44,0:04:14.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with people
Dialogue: 0,0:04:14.00,0:04:16.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in real time and i earned enough money
Dialogue: 0,0:04:16.72,0:04:19.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where i could fly to america for my very
Dialogue: 0,0:04:19.20,0:04:19.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,first time
Dialogue: 0,0:04:19.92,0:04:22.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and attend the the first twitchcon uh
Dialogue: 0,0:04:22.88,0:04:23.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and
Dialogue: 0,0:04:23.28,0:04:25.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i kept returning to go to other gaming
Dialogue: 0,0:04:25.28,0:04:26.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,conventions
Dialogue: 0,0:04:26.56,0:04:29.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and so i just loved networking loved
Dialogue: 0,0:04:29.76,0:04:32.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,meeting the community and just loved
Dialogue: 0,0:04:32.80,0:04:33.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what i did
Dialogue: 0,0:04:33.68,0:04:36.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,um but i found through playing my video
Dialogue: 0,0:04:36.24,0:04:38.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,games on the hardest difficulty
Dialogue: 0,0:04:38.00,0:04:41.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is something not everyone does but
Dialogue: 0,0:04:41.60,0:04:44.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i i love a challenge i found from that
Dialogue: 0,0:04:44.96,0:04:46.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that i became more interested in game
Dialogue: 0,0:04:46.88,0:04:48.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,design and um
Dialogue: 0,0:04:48.72,0:04:51.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know the mechanics of of combat and
Dialogue: 0,0:04:51.76,0:04:53.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,boss fights and
Dialogue: 0,0:04:53.04,0:04:55.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i just really wanted to learn more and
Dialogue: 0,0:04:55.68,0:04:56.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so i
Dialogue: 0,0:04:56.32,0:04:58.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i put out on twitter one day you know
Dialogue: 0,0:04:58.56,0:04:59.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i'm looking for a
Dialogue: 0,0:04:59.84,0:05:02.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a community management position because
Dialogue: 0,0:05:02.00,0:05:04.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i knew community management quite well
Dialogue: 0,0:05:04.16,0:05:06.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,um from this the twitch side of things
Dialogue: 0,0:05:06.96,0:05:08.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so i got a job as a community manager at
Dialogue: 0,0:05:08.88,0:05:10.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a studio um
Dialogue: 0,0:05:10.16,0:05:12.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,here in wellington where i currently am
Dialogue: 0,0:05:12.56,0:05:14.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then they offered me to be a
Dialogue: 0,0:05:14.00,0:05:16.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,producer because they saw some
Dialogue: 0,0:05:16.00,0:05:19.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,potential in me so i took that role uh
Dialogue: 0,0:05:19.44,0:05:22.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then of course covered hit oh no
Dialogue: 0,0:05:22.84,0:05:23.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,yeah and
Dialogue: 0,0:05:23.28,0:05:26.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know the layoffs and all that sort
Dialogue: 0,0:05:26.40,0:05:28.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of jazz so i found myself in a position
Dialogue: 0,0:05:28.80,0:05:30.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where i was like you know what
Dialogue: 0,0:05:30.96,0:05:34.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i love video games i see uh
Dialogue: 0,0:05:34.64,0:05:36.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sort of gaps within the industry for
Dialogue: 0,0:05:36.72,0:05:38.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,inclusion diversity
Dialogue: 0,0:05:38.00,0:05:41.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and accessibility and i really want to
Dialogue: 0,0:05:41.04,0:05:43.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,use my leverage from all the the work
Dialogue: 0,0:05:43.60,0:05:44.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i've done over the years
Dialogue: 0,0:05:44.80,0:05:46.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,um you know all the social media
Dialogue: 0,0:05:46.48,0:05:48.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,presence that i've built up
Dialogue: 0,0:05:48.32,0:05:50.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and really just build something
Dialogue: 0,0:05:50.16,0:05:52.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,meaningful and that's going to help you
Dialogue: 0,0:05:52.08,0:05:52.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,know propel
Dialogue: 0,0:05:52.96,0:05:55.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the industry in new zealand but also
Dialogue: 0,0:05:55.20,0:05:56.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,globally
Dialogue: 0,0:05:56.00,0:05:58.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know we need to see more inclusive
Dialogue: 0,0:05:58.40,0:05:59.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and accessibility
Dialogue: 0,0:05:59.92,0:06:05.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in games i agree that's beautiful story
Dialogue: 0,0:06:05.12,0:06:08.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,thanks now i want to get into the whole
Dialogue: 0,0:06:08.96,0:06:11.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you playing games on the hard difficulty
Dialogue: 0,0:06:11.60,0:06:12.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is that something you just want to
Dialogue: 0,0:06:12.80,0:06:14.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,challenge yourself like what is the
Dialogue: 0,0:06:14.56,0:06:15.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,thought process because i'm gonna say
Dialogue: 0,0:06:15.84,0:06:17.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i'm on the same thing but i do it
Dialogue: 0,0:06:17.28,0:06:18.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because like
Dialogue: 0,0:06:18.72,0:06:20.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,go big and go home gotta prove myself
Dialogue: 0,0:06:20.56,0:06:23.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that i'm really good stuff
Dialogue: 0,0:06:24.40,0:06:27.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's it you know i i started doing it
Dialogue: 0,0:06:27.44,0:06:28.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because i just wanted
Dialogue: 0,0:06:28.56,0:06:30.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like something else you know something
Dialogue: 0,0:06:30.08,0:06:31.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,more interesting
Dialogue: 0,0:06:31.60,0:06:35.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,um and you know it you i'd start a game
Dialogue: 0,0:06:35.28,0:06:36.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and this is on twitch and it's in front
Dialogue: 0,0:06:36.64,0:06:38.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of people so it's not like i'm just
Dialogue: 0,0:06:38.00,0:06:40.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,doing it at home by myself which is
Dialogue: 0,0:06:40.48,0:06:42.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,way better yeah right you know you're
Dialogue: 0,0:06:42.40,0:06:44.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not as vulnerable
Dialogue: 0,0:06:44.40,0:06:47.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,yeah yeah yeah exactly watch me die like
Dialogue: 0,0:06:47.04,0:06:48.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all these times and people would like
Dialogue: 0,0:06:48.80,0:06:50.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,come and go like ah she's not really
Dialogue: 0,0:06:50.56,0:06:51.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,good but then
Dialogue: 0,0:06:51.52,0:06:54.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know a few hours into every game i
Dialogue: 0,0:06:54.24,0:06:56.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,overcome that learning curve and then i
Dialogue: 0,0:06:56.08,0:06:58.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,end up just propelling to the finish
Dialogue: 0,0:06:58.24,0:07:00.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and for me that feeling is just i love
Dialogue: 0,0:07:00.96,0:07:02.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that feeling you know that i've
Dialogue: 0,0:07:02.64,0:07:04.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i've stuck it in and i've learned the
Dialogue: 0,0:07:04.56,0:07:06.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,mechanics and i can really knuckle down
Dialogue: 0,0:07:06.64,0:07:08.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and just like get through the game
Dialogue: 0,0:07:08.64,0:07:10.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and i just love that sense of um
Dialogue: 0,0:07:10.72,0:07:12.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,accomplishment and
Dialogue: 0,0:07:12.24,0:07:14.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,uh the people that watch me they also
Dialogue: 0,0:07:14.56,0:07:15.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they're like wow
Dialogue: 0,0:07:15.68,0:07:17.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know you actually did the thing
Dialogue: 0,0:07:17.28,0:07:19.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you're really good [ __ ]
Dialogue: 0,0:07:19.44,0:07:21.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,no but seriously it's it's weird because
Dialogue: 0,0:07:21.36,0:07:22.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like you when you
Dialogue: 0,0:07:22.56,0:07:24.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,start to play in hard difficulties and
Dialogue: 0,0:07:24.56,0:07:26.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you get better and better and better you
Dialogue: 0,0:07:26.24,0:07:27.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,really become good at the game like i
Dialogue: 0,0:07:27.92,0:07:30.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,played god of war and got a war mode and
Dialogue: 0,0:07:30.00,0:07:31.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you really can't get hit
Dialogue: 0,0:07:31.44,0:07:34.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,oh my gosh then you get to a point
Dialogue: 0,0:07:34.08,0:07:35.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you're doing all the cool stuff you're
Dialogue: 0,0:07:35.36,0:07:37.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like you can't touch me you can't get me
Dialogue: 0,0:07:37.12,0:07:38.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i've learned the tricks i've learned
Dialogue: 0,0:07:38.40,0:07:39.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this stuff i know when you're gonna hit
Dialogue: 0,0:07:39.60,0:07:40.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,me it's
Dialogue: 0,0:07:40.32,0:07:42.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's incredible and and it's it's cool
Dialogue: 0,0:07:42.40,0:07:44.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because you go into this like flow state
Dialogue: 0,0:07:44.48,0:07:46.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where you you just won't give up until
Dialogue: 0,0:07:46.80,0:07:47.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you get there which i think can
Dialogue: 0,0:07:47.92,0:07:49.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,translate into like game design game
Dialogue: 0,0:07:49.60,0:07:50.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,programming like
Dialogue: 0,0:07:50.56,0:07:51.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you get to a point where you're like
Dialogue: 0,0:07:51.44,0:07:52.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you're going to fail but like well in
Dialogue: 0,0:07:52.80,0:07:54.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the game i failed but i kept failing
Dialogue: 0,0:07:54.40,0:07:55.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,failing and eventually i made it so
Dialogue: 0,0:07:55.84,0:07:57.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,maybe the same thing can happen here i
Dialogue: 0,0:07:57.36,0:07:58.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,don't know if you have the same type of
Dialogue: 0,0:07:58.88,0:08:01.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like perspective when you play these
Dialogue: 0,0:08:01.76,0:08:02.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,hard
Dialogue: 0,0:08:02.16,0:08:05.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,games but yeah definitely there was a
Dialogue: 0,0:08:05.36,0:08:06.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,pattern god of war
Dialogue: 0,0:08:06.72,0:08:08.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,earlier in the game on god of war mode
Dialogue: 0,0:08:08.56,0:08:10.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that i was playing in
Dialogue: 0,0:08:10.08,0:08:11.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it was just you had the x but you had
Dialogue: 0,0:08:11.84,0:08:13.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all those uh i can't remember
Dialogue: 0,0:08:13.52,0:08:15.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,their names but they were like frozen
Dialogue: 0,0:08:15.44,0:08:17.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and if you hit them they came to life
Dialogue: 0,0:08:17.68,0:08:19.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,um and it was really hard to avoid you
Dialogue: 0,0:08:19.68,0:08:20.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,know you're in this confined
Dialogue: 0,0:08:20.88,0:08:24.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,area and um that part i
Dialogue: 0,0:08:24.40,0:08:27.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i was stuck there so many times and died
Dialogue: 0,0:08:27.20,0:08:28.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so many times but
Dialogue: 0,0:08:28.64,0:08:32.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,after then it really set me up for like
Dialogue: 0,0:08:32.00,0:08:33.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the rest of the game and then
Dialogue: 0,0:08:33.60,0:08:35.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,whenever those enemies came along i was
Dialogue: 0,0:08:35.28,0:08:37.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like you guys are nothing
Dialogue: 0,0:08:37.60,0:08:39.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,did you beat the game like the whole
Dialogue: 0,0:08:39.44,0:08:41.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,game i did yep
Dialogue: 0,0:08:41.04,0:08:44.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i couldn't balder at the end i tried so
Dialogue: 0,0:08:44.56,0:08:46.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,many times i got to like the last part
Dialogue: 0,0:08:46.32,0:08:48.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of his health and i just i was like i'm
Dialogue: 0,0:08:48.64,0:08:49.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,done
Dialogue: 0,0:08:49.12,0:08:50.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i've spent i think i spent like a whole
Dialogue: 0,0:08:50.48,0:08:52.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,day actually like 24 hours on it and i
Dialogue: 0,0:08:52.56,0:08:53.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was like all right
Dialogue: 0,0:08:53.76,0:08:56.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's it's time it's time to cut it yeah
Dialogue: 0,0:08:56.32,0:08:58.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,yeah sometimes you have to sit back and
Dialogue: 0,0:08:58.08,0:08:59.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,be like
Dialogue: 0,0:08:59.68,0:09:01.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i'll come back to this i got close
Dialogue: 0,0:09:01.20,0:09:02.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,enough because i watched a little bit
Dialogue: 0,0:09:02.32,0:09:03.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,afterwards i was like oh no i'm at the
Dialogue: 0,0:09:03.52,0:09:05.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,end of the game i pretty much beat it
Dialogue: 0,0:09:05.60,0:09:08.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so but the hardest part too and i don't
Dialogue: 0,0:09:08.40,0:09:09.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,think you didn't easy
Dialogue: 0,0:09:09.52,0:09:11.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is when you got them low enough health
Dialogue: 0,0:09:11.76,0:09:12.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they would like
Dialogue: 0,0:09:12.64,0:09:14.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,re-heal and then have a second bar
Dialogue: 0,0:09:14.64,0:09:16.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,health so i remember i was watching my
Dialogue: 0,0:09:16.32,0:09:17.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,friend playing like damn i was like bro
Dialogue: 0,0:09:17.92,0:09:19.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this is too easy
Dialogue: 0,0:09:19.28,0:09:20.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i'm just like slashes and i'm like you
Dialogue: 0,0:09:20.88,0:09:22.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have to go gotta warm up makes you
Dialogue: 0,0:09:22.32,0:09:22.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,better
Dialogue: 0,0:09:22.80,0:09:25.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it makes you stronger so yeah no it's
Dialogue: 0,0:09:25.84,0:09:26.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that
Dialogue: 0,0:09:26.40,0:09:28.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,yeah i remember being on top of the the
Dialogue: 0,0:09:28.80,0:09:29.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,mountains
Dialogue: 0,0:09:29.60,0:09:31.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when you get the achievement after
Dialogue: 0,0:09:31.84,0:09:34.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,walking through this this cave scene
Dialogue: 0,0:09:34.40,0:09:36.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and um the music plays and it's just
Dialogue: 0,0:09:36.96,0:09:37.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this like
Dialogue: 0,0:09:37.84,0:09:41.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,oh i did it that's such a good game i
Dialogue: 0,0:09:41.60,0:09:44.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,can't wait for the next one
Dialogue: 0,0:09:45.04,0:09:47.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,now when you were doing your producer
Dialogue: 0,0:09:47.12,0:09:48.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,jump how was what was that like how did
Dialogue: 0,0:09:48.96,0:09:49.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you
Dialogue: 0,0:09:49.60,0:09:51.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,prepare for that and you evolved in that
Dialogue: 0,0:09:51.84,0:09:53.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,role
Dialogue: 0,0:09:53.44,0:09:56.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,wow yeah so being a producer for the
Dialogue: 0,0:09:56.32,0:09:57.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,first time was uh
Dialogue: 0,0:09:57.60,0:09:59.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,quite it was quite something you know
Dialogue: 0,0:09:59.76,0:10:02.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when when i was a part of um the studios
Dialogue: 0,0:10:02.08,0:10:04.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,called a44 games um they didn't really
Dialogue: 0,0:10:04.88,0:10:05.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have a
Dialogue: 0,0:10:05.68,0:10:08.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,producer structure at the time
Dialogue: 0,0:10:08.88,0:10:11.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so we had um two other producers at the
Dialogue: 0,0:10:11.36,0:10:13.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,time another junior another mid-level
Dialogue: 0,0:10:13.60,0:10:14.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,producer
Dialogue: 0,0:10:14.64,0:10:17.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,um so we didn't really have a program to
Dialogue: 0,0:10:17.68,0:10:18.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,really
Dialogue: 0,0:10:18.16,0:10:21.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,nestle into but then we got a senior
Dialogue: 0,0:10:21.20,0:10:22.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,producer in
Dialogue: 0,0:10:22.24,0:10:26.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from the united states and she was just
Dialogue: 0,0:10:26.16,0:10:30.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,incredible she came in february last
Dialogue: 0,0:10:30.32,0:10:31.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,year
Dialogue: 0,0:10:31.28,0:10:34.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and of course i think i left in
Dialogue: 0,0:10:34.32,0:10:36.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,june i believe so i was only there with
Dialogue: 0,0:10:36.72,0:10:38.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,her for a short amount of time but
Dialogue: 0,0:10:38.80,0:10:41.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,gosh she had like 30 years experience
Dialogue: 0,0:10:41.12,0:10:43.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and i really just got to go under her
Dialogue: 0,0:10:43.12,0:10:43.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,wing
Dialogue: 0,0:10:43.60,0:10:45.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and learn you know how successful you
Dialogue: 0,0:10:45.92,0:10:47.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,know how she's made herself successful
Dialogue: 0,0:10:47.76,0:10:49.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and helped other companies
Dialogue: 0,0:10:49.28,0:10:50.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and so i really took a lot from that you
Dialogue: 0,0:10:50.96,0:10:52.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,know i'm someone that
Dialogue: 0,0:10:52.32,0:10:54.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,absorbs a lot uh probably more than i
Dialogue: 0,0:10:54.88,0:10:55.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,lead on to
Dialogue: 0,0:10:55.68,0:10:58.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as well um and i really just take it all
Dialogue: 0,0:10:58.40,0:10:59.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in take it on board
Dialogue: 0,0:10:59.60,0:11:02.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i was the producer for um
Dialogue: 0,0:11:02.64,0:11:05.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,coding first and then i jumped over to
Dialogue: 0,0:11:05.12,0:11:05.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,design
Dialogue: 0,0:11:05.68,0:11:09.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so i was looking after systems narrative
Dialogue: 0,0:11:09.28,0:11:10.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know all the different facets of
Dialogue: 0,0:11:10.96,0:11:11.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,design
Dialogue: 0,0:11:11.52,0:11:14.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so during that as well i got to
Dialogue: 0,0:11:14.00,0:11:15.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,understand you know
Dialogue: 0,0:11:15.60,0:11:16.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how the different departments
Dialogue: 0,0:11:16.88,0:11:19.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,communicate with each other um
Dialogue: 0,0:11:19.20,0:11:21.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,got to understand you know what the
Dialogue: 0,0:11:21.04,0:11:22.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,different departments actually
Dialogue: 0,0:11:22.56,0:11:25.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,do what it's about how it all comes to
Dialogue: 0,0:11:25.12,0:11:25.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,life
Dialogue: 0,0:11:25.92,0:11:28.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and i just yeah i just gained such a
Dialogue: 0,0:11:28.56,0:11:30.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,passion for it and was like you know
Dialogue: 0,0:11:30.16,0:11:31.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what i know enough to start an indie
Dialogue: 0,0:11:31.84,0:11:33.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,game company
Dialogue: 0,0:11:33.44,0:11:35.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know i don't want to start this big
Dialogue: 0,0:11:35.44,0:11:37.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,triple a like you know but i can start
Dialogue: 0,0:11:37.84,0:11:40.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,indian like and go from there so
Dialogue: 0,0:11:40.40,0:11:42.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,yeah i loved being a producer it was
Dialogue: 0,0:11:42.24,0:11:43.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,great wow
Dialogue: 0,0:11:43.44,0:11:46.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,okay and so did you go to school for any
Dialogue: 0,0:11:46.16,0:11:46.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,game
Dialogue: 0,0:11:46.64,0:11:48.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,design game development or this was just
Dialogue: 0,0:11:48.56,0:11:50.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from twitch and then eventually evolving
Dialogue: 0,0:11:50.40,0:11:52.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,towards being a producer and then
Dialogue: 0,0:11:52.40,0:11:54.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or how did that yeah yeah i think yeah
Dialogue: 0,0:11:54.16,0:11:56.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,um it was lucky you know i wanted
Dialogue: 0,0:11:56.00,0:11:58.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a i wanted a career uh some more
Dialogue: 0,0:11:58.32,0:12:00.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,financial stability in my life um
Dialogue: 0,0:12:00.88,0:12:02.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know that twitch couldn't really
Dialogue: 0,0:12:02.16,0:12:04.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,give me so i thought you know community
Dialogue: 0,0:12:04.56,0:12:05.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,management would be
Dialogue: 0,0:12:05.84,0:12:09.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the gig and um that felt like a natural
Dialogue: 0,0:12:09.04,0:12:11.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,step to do that but when they offered me
Dialogue: 0,0:12:11.84,0:12:13.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a job as a producer
Dialogue: 0,0:12:13.44,0:12:15.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know it sort of opened doors for me
Dialogue: 0,0:12:15.12,0:12:16.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and i
Dialogue: 0,0:12:16.48,0:12:18.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i did see myself wanting to be a
Dialogue: 0,0:12:18.16,0:12:20.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,creative director one day while i was at
Dialogue: 0,0:12:20.16,0:12:21.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the studio
Dialogue: 0,0:12:21.44,0:12:23.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know like leveling up to that level
Dialogue: 0,0:12:23.36,0:12:26.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,over over a certain amount of years
Dialogue: 0,0:12:26.00,0:12:29.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,um but no you know i asked other
Dialogue: 0,0:12:29.36,0:12:30.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,creative directors within the studio i
Dialogue: 0,0:12:30.96,0:12:32.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was like you know would you recommend
Dialogue: 0,0:12:32.48,0:12:33.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,going to school
Dialogue: 0,0:12:33.52,0:12:35.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for something like this and they're like
Dialogue: 0,0:12:35.04,0:12:36.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,no you can learn it all in house
Dialogue: 0,0:12:36.96,0:12:38.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and a lot of teams are like that you
Dialogue: 0,0:12:38.56,0:12:40.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,know they will um
Dialogue: 0,0:12:40.08,0:12:42.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,help support you to to get to the the
Dialogue: 0,0:12:42.64,0:12:44.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,status that you want to get to
Dialogue: 0,0:12:44.72,0:12:47.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,over time um but you know if you want to
Dialogue: 0,0:12:47.28,0:12:48.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,go to
Dialogue: 0,0:12:48.00,0:12:50.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a game design school and whatnot those
Dialogue: 0,0:12:50.32,0:12:51.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are definitely
Dialogue: 0,0:12:51.12,0:12:52.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,helpful but if you're already in the
Dialogue: 0,0:12:52.96,0:12:55.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,industry and you've worked at a game
Dialogue: 0,0:12:55.20,0:12:56.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,studio
Dialogue: 0,0:12:56.08,0:12:57.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you feel like you have enough
Dialogue: 0,0:12:57.52,0:12:59.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,experience to start something
Dialogue: 0,0:12:59.28,0:13:00.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,um you know there's really nothing
Dialogue: 0,0:13:00.80,0:13:03.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,holding you back and um
Dialogue: 0,0:13:03.04,0:13:04.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,yeah i would just say just go for it
Dialogue: 0,0:13:04.96,0:13:07.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like i have i have a bit of courage
Dialogue: 0,0:13:07.12,0:13:07.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,though
Dialogue: 0,0:13:07.60,0:13:10.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it does take courage but uh yeah yeah i
Dialogue: 0,0:13:10.32,0:13:11.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was gonna ask
Dialogue: 0,0:13:11.12,0:13:13.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,dude were you nervous not well let's not
Dialogue: 0,0:13:13.52,0:13:14.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,talk about the suit yet but were you
Dialogue: 0,0:13:14.88,0:13:15.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,nervous when they were like
Dialogue: 0,0:13:15.76,0:13:18.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you want to be a producer and then yeah
Dialogue: 0,0:13:18.88,0:13:20.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because you know experience before so
Dialogue: 0,0:13:20.56,0:13:21.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you were like i have community
Dialogue: 0,0:13:21.60,0:13:23.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,management experience but not producers
Dialogue: 0,0:13:23.04,0:13:24.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how did you feel about that were you
Dialogue: 0,0:13:24.24,0:13:24.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like
Dialogue: 0,0:13:24.56,0:13:26.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,let's just bring it on or was your
Dialogue: 0,0:13:26.56,0:13:28.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,mindset yeah um
Dialogue: 0,0:13:28.08,0:13:30.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for yes i was i was you know i've got a
Dialogue: 0,0:13:30.80,0:13:32.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,really optimistic attitude
Dialogue: 0,0:13:32.40,0:13:34.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and uh you know i just feel like you
Dialogue: 0,0:13:34.96,0:13:36.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,know anything i could put my mind to
Dialogue: 0,0:13:36.72,0:13:38.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i can i can do it and if if it doesn't
Dialogue: 0,0:13:38.80,0:13:40.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,turn out it doesn't turn out you know
Dialogue: 0,0:13:40.56,0:13:42.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what have you got to lose so
Dialogue: 0,0:13:42.16,0:13:44.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i really just gave it my all um and
Dialogue: 0,0:13:44.88,0:13:46.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,really tried to learn
Dialogue: 0,0:13:46.24,0:13:48.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in my own way in my own time about how
Dialogue: 0,0:13:48.32,0:13:49.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,everything works and
Dialogue: 0,0:13:49.84,0:13:51.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i got to know the people at the studio
Dialogue: 0,0:13:51.60,0:13:53.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as well you know not just
Dialogue: 0,0:13:53.04,0:13:55.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from a level of you know telling them
Dialogue: 0,0:13:55.60,0:13:56.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when their
Dialogue: 0,0:13:56.32,0:13:59.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,tasks were due or milestones and whatnot
Dialogue: 0,0:13:59.20,0:14:00.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but actually you know getting to know
Dialogue: 0,0:14:00.72,0:14:01.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,them as people
Dialogue: 0,0:14:01.52,0:14:04.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and um how these different individuals
Dialogue: 0,0:14:04.88,0:14:07.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,work together but so differently
Dialogue: 0,0:14:07.92,0:14:10.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know and so i that's what i really
Dialogue: 0,0:14:10.32,0:14:12.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,loved about being a producer was that
Dialogue: 0,0:14:12.16,0:14:14.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the communication aspect and that like
Dialogue: 0,0:14:14.64,0:14:17.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the human level of like i don't i'm not
Dialogue: 0,0:14:17.60,0:14:19.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just going to be this person that tells
Dialogue: 0,0:14:19.28,0:14:19.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you
Dialogue: 0,0:14:19.84,0:14:22.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what to do where to go but actually like
Dialogue: 0,0:14:22.72,0:14:25.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know get amongst it
Dialogue: 0,0:14:25.84,0:14:28.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,okay wow that's crazy that's
Dialogue: 0,0:14:28.96,0:14:30.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's just it's insane because i've known
Dialogue: 0,0:14:30.64,0:14:32.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a lot of people even myself where it's
Dialogue: 0,0:14:32.08,0:14:32.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just like
Dialogue: 0,0:14:32.56,0:14:34.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i don't know if i feel ready for that
Dialogue: 0,0:14:34.24,0:14:35.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,even though i've done a lot of different
Dialogue: 0,0:14:35.68,0:14:36.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,things
Dialogue: 0,0:14:36.64,0:14:38.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i've never done it so you feel kind of
Dialogue: 0,0:14:38.24,0:14:39.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,nervous you get that pushback but it's
Dialogue: 0,0:14:39.84,0:14:40.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like you got to try it
Dialogue: 0,0:14:40.96,0:14:43.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to learn what it's like and infinitely
Dialogue: 0,0:14:43.20,0:14:44.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,yeah
Dialogue: 0,0:14:44.32,0:14:47.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so going to the twitch how did you get
Dialogue: 0,0:14:47.20,0:14:48.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that started you just started
Dialogue: 0,0:14:48.56,0:14:50.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,streaming started playing games and
Dialogue: 0,0:14:50.48,0:14:52.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,showing the world with like how did you
Dialogue: 0,0:14:52.00,0:14:54.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,get how did you get popular
Dialogue: 0,0:14:54.48,0:14:57.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all right so uh i started streaming in
Dialogue: 0,0:14:57.44,0:14:58.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,january 2015
Dialogue: 0,0:14:58.96,0:15:01.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so i've actually been doing it for six
Dialogue: 0,0:15:01.12,0:15:02.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,years now
Dialogue: 0,0:15:02.16,0:15:03.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we'll probably keep doing it till
Dialogue: 0,0:15:03.68,0:15:06.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i'm elderly i suppose
Dialogue: 0,0:15:06.00,0:15:09.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,why not kind of weird yeah i mean
Dialogue: 0,0:15:09.20,0:15:11.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at that stage i guess it'll be like
Dialogue: 0,0:15:11.28,0:15:13.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,normal we'll be like the first ones to
Dialogue: 0,0:15:13.36,0:15:14.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,be like elderly
Dialogue: 0,0:15:14.88,0:15:17.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,gaming personalities or whatever but
Dialogue: 0,0:15:17.60,0:15:18.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's really funny that'd be
Dialogue: 0,0:15:18.56,0:15:19.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,interesting you'd be in all ground would
Dialogue: 0,0:15:19.60,0:15:20.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,be like hey
Dialogue: 0,0:15:20.32,0:15:22.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you guys ready to play some whatever
Dialogue: 0,0:15:22.32,0:15:24.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,yeah like your followers have
Dialogue: 0,0:15:24.08,0:15:25.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,followed you through since you know your
Dialogue: 0,0:15:25.84,0:15:27.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,conception you're all
Dialogue: 0,0:15:27.28,0:15:31.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,old you know i wonder
Dialogue: 0,0:15:31.04,0:15:32.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,oh my goodness so for me you know i
Dialogue: 0,0:15:32.96,0:15:34.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,started with destiny
Dialogue: 0,0:15:34.24,0:15:36.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you know disney came out september
Dialogue: 0,0:15:36.24,0:15:38.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,2014 so it was kind of new
Dialogue: 0,0:15:38.80,0:15:41.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,um especially on twitch and i just grew
Dialogue: 0,0:15:41.44,0:15:42.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a community there
Dialogue: 0,0:15:42.72,0:15:45.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and uh i don't know i guess at the time
Dialogue: 0,0:15:45.68,0:15:47.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there wasn't many new zealand streamers
Dialogue: 0,0:15:47.52,0:15:50.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as well so i had the advantage of
Dialogue: 0,0:15:50.00,0:15:53.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,an interesting accent um of course um
Dialogue: 0,0:15:53.68,0:15:56.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i was a female which we don't have like
Dialogue: 0,0:15:56.40,0:15:57.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a leg up but
Dialogue: 0,0:15:57.68,0:16:00.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,um it does it can help you know on a
Dialogue: 0,0:16:00.96,0:16:04.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,platform that's majority of male viewers
Dialogue: 0,0:16:04.08,0:16:05.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know
Dialogue: 0,0:16:05.20,0:16:07.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so you know from all these different
Dialogue: 0,0:16:07.04,0:16:09.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,angles you know i was just getting a lot
Dialogue: 0,0:16:09.12,0:16:10.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of followers a lot of viewers
Dialogue: 0,0:16:10.96,0:16:13.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and i really built up a really special
Dialogue: 0,0:16:13.28,0:16:14.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,community
Dialogue: 0,0:16:14.48,0:16:16.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and so from then i just decided you know
Dialogue: 0,0:16:16.48,0:16:18.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what you know i was getting about a
Dialogue: 0,0:16:18.00,0:16:19.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,thousand viewers it was actually going
Dialogue: 0,0:16:19.76,0:16:21.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,really successful
Dialogue: 0,0:16:21.20,0:16:23.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but then i wanted to to go to variety it
Dialogue: 0,0:16:23.52,0:16:24.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was just i couldn't play
Dialogue: 0,0:16:24.96,0:16:27.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this one game like day in day out day in
Dialogue: 0,0:16:27.20,0:16:28.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,day out anymore
Dialogue: 0,0:16:28.48,0:16:30.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,even if it meant money you know i that's
Dialogue: 0,0:16:30.56,0:16:31.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just me i i
Dialogue: 0,0:16:31.60,0:16:34.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have to be authentic uh to my core when
Dialogue: 0,0:16:34.56,0:16:35.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i can
Dialogue: 0,0:16:35.60,0:16:38.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and so when i did that you know um my
Dialogue: 0,0:16:38.32,0:16:39.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,viewership went down but then it
Dialogue: 0,0:16:39.92,0:16:41.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,gradually built back up and then my
Dialogue: 0,0:16:41.60,0:16:42.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,community was just
Dialogue: 0,0:16:42.88,0:16:45.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this more like well-rounded community of
Dialogue: 0,0:16:45.76,0:16:46.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,uh different
Dialogue: 0,0:16:46.48,0:16:47.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,interests but they could all come
Dialogue: 0,0:16:47.84,0:16:50.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,together to watch me play whatever game
Dialogue: 0,0:16:50.16,0:16:51.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that i wanted
Dialogue: 0,0:16:51.84,0:16:54.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and uh in new zealand you know being in
Dialogue: 0,0:16:54.88,0:16:55.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a small country
Dialogue: 0,0:16:55.92,0:16:58.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and at the time one of the very few
Dialogue: 0,0:16:58.40,0:16:59.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,twitch streamers that was
Dialogue: 0,0:16:59.68,0:17:02.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at that level of success i got media
Dialogue: 0,0:17:02.84,0:17:04.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,attention um
Dialogue: 0,0:17:04.40,0:17:07.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know i was on a lot of articles i
Dialogue: 0,0:17:07.36,0:17:09.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was on some news channels
Dialogue: 0,0:17:09.04,0:17:12.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,um and it was just it was just really
Dialogue: 0,0:17:12.32,0:17:14.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,great that helped really elevate me and
Dialogue: 0,0:17:14.32,0:17:14.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the
Dialogue: 0,0:17:14.80,0:17:18.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,um american saturated market
Dialogue: 0,0:17:18.80,0:17:21.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and uh yeah no it's just i'm so thrilled
Dialogue: 0,0:17:21.84,0:17:23.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that i've had such a successful twitch
Dialogue: 0,0:17:23.52,0:17:24.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,career
Dialogue: 0,0:17:24.16,0:17:26.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and um but you know now i really just
Dialogue: 0,0:17:26.40,0:17:27.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,want to
Dialogue: 0,0:17:27.44,0:17:30.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,uh do that as a as a hobby and not rely
Dialogue: 0,0:17:30.32,0:17:31.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on it for money and
Dialogue: 0,0:17:31.84,0:17:34.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just get started with my gaming studio
Dialogue: 0,0:17:34.80,0:17:35.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that makes sense
Dialogue: 0,0:17:35.92,0:17:37.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,now when you got media attention on the
Dialogue: 0,0:17:37.36,0:17:39.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,news how did that feel like you were
Dialogue: 0,0:17:39.04,0:17:42.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like i'm famous now yeah
Dialogue: 0,0:17:42.48,0:17:46.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,yeah it was uh it was crazy uh
Dialogue: 0,0:17:46.24,0:17:48.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's kind of you know my first sort of
Dialogue: 0,0:17:48.64,0:17:50.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,media attention was in the local
Dialogue: 0,0:17:50.48,0:17:51.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,newspaper
Dialogue: 0,0:17:51.84,0:17:54.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,my dad actually uh he yeah
Dialogue: 0,0:17:54.88,0:17:56.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he wrote it it was called the hawke's
Dialogue: 0,0:17:56.64,0:17:58.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,bay today
Dialogue: 0,0:17:58.00,0:18:00.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they he wrote in and then they
Dialogue: 0,0:18:00.32,0:18:02.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,contacted me and did a piece on me
Dialogue: 0,0:18:02.80,0:18:05.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you know from there then other wider
Dialogue: 0,0:18:05.92,0:18:07.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,news outlets in the country were like
Dialogue: 0,0:18:07.92,0:18:10.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,hey like we want to do a piece on this
Dialogue: 0,0:18:10.00,0:18:11.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,girl and so that's sort of how it like
Dialogue: 0,0:18:11.92,0:18:13.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,dominoed into
Dialogue: 0,0:18:13.28,0:18:16.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,into what it uh became for me and uh
Dialogue: 0,0:18:16.40,0:18:18.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,yeah now i i know a lot of journalists
Dialogue: 0,0:18:18.64,0:18:19.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know
Dialogue: 0,0:18:19.52,0:18:22.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's just yeah it's it's crazy to think
Dialogue: 0,0:18:22.16,0:18:24.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about
Dialogue: 0,0:18:24.16,0:18:26.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's insane just just by playing games
Dialogue: 0,0:18:26.00,0:18:27.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you can become like this big
Dialogue: 0,0:18:27.60,0:18:29.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,thing because five not even like i don't
Dialogue: 0,0:18:29.84,0:18:31.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,know 23.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:31.04,0:18:32.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like seven years ago eight years ago i
Dialogue: 0,0:18:32.56,0:18:34.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was like there's no way people would be
Dialogue: 0,0:18:34.64,0:18:36.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,paid to play games i just watched them
Dialogue: 0,0:18:36.64,0:18:38.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on youtube for fun but now it's like
Dialogue: 0,0:18:38.96,0:18:41.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,literally there's community streamers
Dialogue: 0,0:18:41.04,0:18:42.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and all this
Dialogue: 0,0:18:42.24,0:18:43.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,twitch community out here just people
Dialogue: 0,0:18:43.84,0:18:45.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just sharing their experience just
Dialogue: 0,0:18:45.04,0:18:46.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sharing games because not everybody can
Dialogue: 0,0:18:46.32,0:18:47.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,play games
Dialogue: 0,0:18:47.28,0:18:48.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they don't have the money to buy it or
Dialogue: 0,0:18:48.64,0:18:50.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,some people just want to watch people
Dialogue: 0,0:18:50.00,0:18:51.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,play it's more comforting or the
Dialogue: 0,0:18:51.44,0:18:52.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,streamer themselves
Dialogue: 0,0:18:52.40,0:18:53.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,helps them get through tough times like
Dialogue: 0,0:18:53.60,0:18:55.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,happened to you and actually if i would
Dialogue: 0,0:18:55.04,0:18:57.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like to get into at least how you
Dialogue: 0,0:18:57.12,0:18:59.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how your mindset was during that hard
Dialogue: 0,0:18:59.20,0:19:02.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,times and how you got through it
Dialogue: 0,0:19:02.16,0:19:05.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,right wow so i guess those hard times
Dialogue: 0,0:19:05.60,0:19:07.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like thinking back on it was very minor
Dialogue: 0,0:19:07.76,0:19:09.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i've been in some
Dialogue: 0,0:19:09.12,0:19:12.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,uh worse times
Dialogue: 0,0:19:12.16,0:19:15.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,since then but you know from each
Dialogue: 0,0:19:15.44,0:19:17.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,bedtime i've been through you know video
Dialogue: 0,0:19:17.12,0:19:19.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,games has always been there for me but
Dialogue: 0,0:19:19.36,0:19:21.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i've always been there for myself as
Dialogue: 0,0:19:21.28,0:19:22.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,well
Dialogue: 0,0:19:22.40,0:19:24.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and through each time you sort of learn
Dialogue: 0,0:19:24.80,0:19:25.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about you know
Dialogue: 0,0:19:25.60,0:19:28.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how how best to get through it the next
Dialogue: 0,0:19:28.32,0:19:28.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,time
Dialogue: 0,0:19:28.88,0:19:30.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,uh in case you know something happens to
Dialogue: 0,0:19:30.96,0:19:31.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you
Dialogue: 0,0:19:31.92,0:19:35.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and um i guess that's yeah that's really
Dialogue: 0,0:19:35.68,0:19:38.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,video games is just like on the side of
Dialogue: 0,0:19:38.40,0:19:38.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that
Dialogue: 0,0:19:38.88,0:19:42.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,um really but you know for example
Dialogue: 0,0:19:42.88,0:19:45.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,um the biggest one in the last few years
Dialogue: 0,0:19:45.20,0:19:46.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was um
Dialogue: 0,0:19:46.40,0:19:49.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i got married to another twitch streamer
Dialogue: 0,0:19:49.84,0:19:51.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in america
Dialogue: 0,0:19:51.20,0:19:54.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we have a child together and so i
Dialogue: 0,0:19:54.32,0:19:56.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,moved my life over there with a newborn
Dialogue: 0,0:19:56.32,0:19:56.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,baby
Dialogue: 0,0:19:56.96,0:19:59.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it didn't work out unfortunately so
Dialogue: 0,0:19:59.04,0:20:00.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i had to move all the way back to new
Dialogue: 0,0:20:00.80,0:20:01.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,zealand
Dialogue: 0,0:20:01.52,0:20:04.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,uh from from america that's tough i was
Dialogue: 0,0:20:04.56,0:20:07.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,yeah an eight month old uh and then
Dialogue: 0,0:20:07.84,0:20:09.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then we've been separated for almost
Dialogue: 0,0:20:09.68,0:20:11.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,three years now so it's it's not too
Dialogue: 0,0:20:11.52,0:20:12.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,recent but
Dialogue: 0,0:20:12.72,0:20:14.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that was really hard for me to go
Dialogue: 0,0:20:14.16,0:20:15.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,through as a solo parent
Dialogue: 0,0:20:15.92,0:20:18.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and um you know at the time i was just a
Dialogue: 0,0:20:18.48,0:20:20.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,twitch streamer um
Dialogue: 0,0:20:20.48,0:20:22.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,grieving didn't really know what to do
Dialogue: 0,0:20:22.96,0:20:24.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then i
Dialogue: 0,0:20:24.56,0:20:26.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know really just catapult myself
Dialogue: 0,0:20:26.72,0:20:28.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,into game development
Dialogue: 0,0:20:28.48,0:20:31.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and three years on i'm here with my own
Dialogue: 0,0:20:31.84,0:20:33.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,indie studio and i'm just like i'm just
Dialogue: 0,0:20:33.84,0:20:36.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so proud of myself
Dialogue: 0,0:20:38.00,0:20:41.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,thank you yeah it's not easy doing what
Dialogue: 0,0:20:41.20,0:20:42.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you did but
Dialogue: 0,0:20:42.48,0:20:44.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you he did it and that's all that
Dialogue: 0,0:20:44.40,0:20:45.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,matters
Dialogue: 0,0:20:45.60,0:20:47.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,yeah i also want to hear a story about
Dialogue: 0,0:20:47.76,0:20:49.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,your name the the twitch
Dialogue: 0,0:20:49.52,0:20:52.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,name you made it's laurie yeah how did
Dialogue: 0,0:20:52.48,0:20:52.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that
Dialogue: 0,0:20:52.80,0:20:56.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,hello so my first name's lorien
Dialogue: 0,0:20:56.16,0:20:59.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and my family name is
Dialogue: 0,0:20:59.20,0:21:02.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,lollipop lolly lol pup like there's
Dialogue: 0,0:21:02.96,0:21:05.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,different variations of it so i thought
Dialogue: 0,0:21:05.12,0:21:07.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know how can i combine lollipop
Dialogue: 0,0:21:07.44,0:21:10.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and my name so i came up with lorry pop
Dialogue: 0,0:21:10.80,0:21:17.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or lori pops i guess yeah oh i love it
Dialogue: 0,0:21:17.76,0:21:19.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,now for anybody who wanted to do like
Dialogue: 0,0:21:19.68,0:21:21.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,twitch streaming
Dialogue: 0,0:21:21.44,0:21:23.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like whether it's for just games or even
Dialogue: 0,0:21:23.28,0:21:24.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,game development what
Dialogue: 0,0:21:24.56,0:21:28.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,advice would you give them um
Dialogue: 0,0:21:28.48,0:21:30.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i would say that twitch streaming is
Dialogue: 0,0:21:30.88,0:21:34.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,actually a great segue to break into the
Dialogue: 0,0:21:34.08,0:21:37.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,game development industry uh it really
Dialogue: 0,0:21:37.36,0:21:39.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is you know i don't think i could have
Dialogue: 0,0:21:39.12,0:21:41.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,got to where i am without all the
Dialogue: 0,0:21:41.12,0:21:43.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,networking and all the contacts and all
Dialogue: 0,0:21:43.12,0:21:44.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the the friends that i've made in the
Dialogue: 0,0:21:44.96,0:21:46.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,industry you know
Dialogue: 0,0:21:46.40,0:21:48.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,including video game studios and playing
Dialogue: 0,0:21:48.72,0:21:50.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,video games uh for them and
Dialogue: 0,0:21:50.64,0:21:53.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and whatnot so it really is a great
Dialogue: 0,0:21:53.12,0:21:56.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,segue but to get into twitch i would say
Dialogue: 0,0:21:56.08,0:21:58.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,um just you know be yourself or offer
Dialogue: 0,0:21:58.80,0:21:59.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the most unique
Dialogue: 0,0:21:59.76,0:22:02.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,aspect of yourself um or if you're
Dialogue: 0,0:22:02.64,0:22:04.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,someone that likes to put on a persona
Dialogue: 0,0:22:04.32,0:22:05.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's fine but like really stick to
Dialogue: 0,0:22:05.84,0:22:06.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that
Dialogue: 0,0:22:06.56,0:22:08.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and be consistent in the video game that
Dialogue: 0,0:22:08.80,0:22:11.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you play i would say start off with one
Dialogue: 0,0:22:11.20,0:22:14.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so your community has one core interest
Dialogue: 0,0:22:14.56,0:22:14.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to
Dialogue: 0,0:22:14.96,0:22:18.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to come together and bond over and then
Dialogue: 0,0:22:18.00,0:22:19.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from there if you want to do variety
Dialogue: 0,0:22:19.76,0:22:20.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then
Dialogue: 0,0:22:20.16,0:22:23.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,slowly branch out into variety also you
Dialogue: 0,0:22:23.60,0:22:25.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,know networking i will say that again
Dialogue: 0,0:22:25.52,0:22:26.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,networking is
Dialogue: 0,0:22:26.40,0:22:29.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so important and it is so valuable
Dialogue: 0,0:22:29.28,0:22:31.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,especially if it's genuine networking
Dialogue: 0,0:22:31.36,0:22:32.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not just you know
Dialogue: 0,0:22:32.48,0:22:34.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,trying to trying to get a leg up in the
Dialogue: 0,0:22:34.40,0:22:36.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,business you know making continuing
Dialogue: 0,0:22:36.64,0:22:39.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,um but those are probably the core core
Dialogue: 0,0:22:39.28,0:22:40.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,aspects
Dialogue: 0,0:22:40.08,0:22:42.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,um of how i would say breaking into
Dialogue: 0,0:22:42.64,0:22:43.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,twitch
Dialogue: 0,0:22:43.20,0:22:45.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,um game development wise you know
Dialogue: 0,0:22:45.20,0:22:46.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there's a lot of community
Dialogue: 0,0:22:46.48,0:22:49.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and manager positions available in game
Dialogue: 0,0:22:49.04,0:22:50.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,dev now and a lot of people
Dialogue: 0,0:22:50.72,0:22:52.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from the twitch scene are actually
Dialogue: 0,0:22:52.48,0:22:54.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,stepping over into these roles
Dialogue: 0,0:22:54.72,0:22:57.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,um so i would recommend that as well you
Dialogue: 0,0:22:57.20,0:22:59.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,know just getting amongst that working
Dialogue: 0,0:22:59.04,0:23:00.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with these studios and
Dialogue: 0,0:23:00.96,0:23:03.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know they most likely already know
Dialogue: 0,0:23:03.28,0:23:04.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who you are as well if you're a
Dialogue: 0,0:23:04.80,0:23:06.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,successful streamer and so you've got
Dialogue: 0,0:23:06.72,0:23:08.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that sort of bonded respect there
Dialogue: 0,0:23:08.56,0:23:09.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,already
Dialogue: 0,0:23:09.44,0:23:12.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,um yeah i know it's um
Dialogue: 0,0:23:12.48,0:23:14.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,my story is quite unique you know
Dialogue: 0,0:23:14.00,0:23:15.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there's not many twitch streamers that
Dialogue: 0,0:23:15.76,0:23:16.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have
Dialogue: 0,0:23:16.72,0:23:18.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,gone this far into game development uh
Dialogue: 0,0:23:18.88,0:23:20.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or have been as
Dialogue: 0,0:23:20.24,0:23:23.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,aspirational as i have so i don't really
Dialogue: 0,0:23:23.20,0:23:24.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have too many people to like
Dialogue: 0,0:23:24.80,0:23:26.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,converse with about it but i do have a
Dialogue: 0,0:23:26.80,0:23:29.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,few friends in community management so i
Dialogue: 0,0:23:29.04,0:23:30.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,chat to them a lot
Dialogue: 0,0:23:30.56,0:23:32.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,yeah you're unique and that's good
Dialogue: 0,0:23:32.24,0:23:33.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because it allows more people to follow
Dialogue: 0,0:23:33.76,0:23:36.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in your footsteps
Dialogue: 0,0:23:36.16,0:23:38.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,yeah i do hope you know through it's
Dialogue: 0,0:23:38.72,0:23:40.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,something i am with my twitch and my
Dialogue: 0,0:23:40.48,0:23:41.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,online communities is i'm very
Dialogue: 0,0:23:41.92,0:23:43.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,transparent about you know the
Dialogue: 0,0:23:43.84,0:23:46.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,issues i face my adversities you know of
Dialogue: 0,0:23:46.16,0:23:48.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,being a solo parent
Dialogue: 0,0:23:48.00,0:23:50.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and a woman in the industry as well i'm
Dialogue: 0,0:23:50.32,0:23:52.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,very open about that stuff
Dialogue: 0,0:23:52.00,0:23:54.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and uh you know i really care about
Dialogue: 0,0:23:54.00,0:23:55.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,those uh human
Dialogue: 0,0:23:55.60,0:23:58.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to human sort of genuine interactions uh
Dialogue: 0,0:23:58.40,0:23:59.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where you can
Dialogue: 0,0:23:59.28,0:24:01.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know inspire other people you they
Dialogue: 0,0:24:01.76,0:24:03.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,could be like hey
Dialogue: 0,0:24:03.04,0:24:05.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this person's going through this i don't
Dialogue: 0,0:24:05.12,0:24:07.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,feel as alone you know i'm all about
Dialogue: 0,0:24:07.04,0:24:08.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that sort of thing so
Dialogue: 0,0:24:08.80,0:24:11.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,yeah this just felt like a natural step
Dialogue: 0,0:24:11.04,0:24:11.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for me to take
Dialogue: 0,0:24:11.92,0:24:14.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,making a studio that's inclusive diverse
Dialogue: 0,0:24:14.40,0:24:14.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and
Dialogue: 0,0:24:14.96,0:24:18.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,focused on accessibility
Dialogue: 0,0:24:18.72,0:24:22.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,now the studio how did this come about
Dialogue: 0,0:24:22.24,0:24:24.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so uh when i was sort of stagnant you
Dialogue: 0,0:24:24.88,0:24:27.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,know it was during a covert lockdown
Dialogue: 0,0:24:27.60,0:24:30.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when redundancies were made at the
Dialogue: 0,0:24:30.56,0:24:32.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,company and i sort of thought you know
Dialogue: 0,0:24:32.08,0:24:33.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where are my next steps
Dialogue: 0,0:24:33.52,0:24:35.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and once i decided you know what i want
Dialogue: 0,0:24:35.44,0:24:37.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to i want to
Dialogue: 0,0:24:37.12,0:24:38.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,make an indie studio you know something
Dialogue: 0,0:24:38.88,0:24:41.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,small something a bit humble
Dialogue: 0,0:24:41.28,0:24:43.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,um and so i was like okay well what what
Dialogue: 0,0:24:43.68,0:24:46.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,can i name this company that is
Dialogue: 0,0:24:46.08,0:24:49.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a representative representative of
Dialogue: 0,0:24:49.36,0:24:52.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,being inclusive um and so i thought him
Dialogue: 0,0:24:52.80,0:24:54.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and i just sort of brainstormed for a
Dialogue: 0,0:24:54.32,0:24:55.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,while and i was like
Dialogue: 0,0:24:55.68,0:25:01.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,well everyone likes pie and then
Dialogue: 0,0:25:02.48,0:25:04.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know people people like food they
Dialogue: 0,0:25:04.24,0:25:06.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like pie so i was like huh
Dialogue: 0,0:25:06.48,0:25:08.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then i tried to like uh search
Dialogue: 0,0:25:08.48,0:25:09.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,different words for
Dialogue: 0,0:25:09.52,0:25:11.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,uh different colors you know and
Dialogue: 0,0:25:11.20,0:25:12.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,chromatic um
Dialogue: 0,0:25:12.72,0:25:15.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is one of those words that encompasses
Dialogue: 0,0:25:15.04,0:25:16.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,um
Dialogue: 0,0:25:16.00,0:25:18.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,different uh color spectrums and and
Dialogue: 0,0:25:18.24,0:25:20.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,whatnot um so i was like okay well
Dialogue: 0,0:25:20.80,0:25:23.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,chromatic pie rolls off the tongue yes
Dialogue: 0,0:25:23.76,0:25:25.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and so i had a vision in my head for the
Dialogue: 0,0:25:25.44,0:25:28.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,logo at that point and i was like huh i
Dialogue: 0,0:25:28.16,0:25:30.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,want to you know give this to somebody
Dialogue: 0,0:25:30.08,0:25:30.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to create
Dialogue: 0,0:25:30.80,0:25:33.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,pixel art her name is cast pixel on
Dialogue: 0,0:25:33.84,0:25:35.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,twitter at car's pixel
Dialogue: 0,0:25:35.68,0:25:38.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and i reached out to her and she's um
Dialogue: 0,0:25:38.16,0:25:39.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,lgbtq
Dialogue: 0,0:25:39.28,0:25:41.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,plus as well and so i just felt like
Dialogue: 0,0:25:41.76,0:25:43.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this perfect fit and what she came up
Dialogue: 0,0:25:43.68,0:25:45.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with was just like the spinning image of
Dialogue: 0,0:25:45.68,0:25:47.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what i had in my head and it just
Dialogue: 0,0:25:47.68,0:25:49.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it just really clicked and so it just
Dialogue: 0,0:25:49.76,0:25:51.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,yeah it had to be
Dialogue: 0,0:25:51.28,0:25:53.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all encompassing of the the company's
Dialogue: 0,0:25:53.44,0:25:55.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,vision
Dialogue: 0,0:25:55.12,0:25:57.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so that vision you had is exactly what
Dialogue: 0,0:25:57.12,0:25:59.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you have nowadays with the uh
Dialogue: 0,0:25:59.68,0:26:02.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,red yellow green blue purple pie we're
Dialogue: 0,0:26:02.56,0:26:04.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all slices from the same place
Dialogue: 0,0:26:04.80,0:26:08.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,yeah yeah that's exactly it
Dialogue: 0,0:26:08.16,0:26:10.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,thank you no problem and then i saw you
Dialogue: 0,0:26:10.72,0:26:11.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,also uh
Dialogue: 0,0:26:11.52,0:26:15.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,made a real version of it that is
Dialogue: 0,0:26:15.12,0:26:16.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,incredible
Dialogue: 0,0:26:16.16,0:26:19.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so what type of pie is it is it
Dialogue: 0,0:26:19.92,0:26:23.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is made from it's made from sago and
Dialogue: 0,0:26:23.04,0:26:24.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,custard
Dialogue: 0,0:26:24.24,0:26:26.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so if you don't know what sega is uh
Dialogue: 0,0:26:26.80,0:26:28.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's i guess it's
Dialogue: 0,0:26:28.56,0:26:30.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know everyone knows what rice but
Dialogue: 0,0:26:30.00,0:26:32.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know what rice pudding is yeah
Dialogue: 0,0:26:32.72,0:26:34.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,yeah so it's kind of got the same
Dialogue: 0,0:26:34.40,0:26:35.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,texture as rice pudding
Dialogue: 0,0:26:35.92,0:26:38.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,except it's sago and it's um it's a
Dialogue: 0,0:26:38.56,0:26:40.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,similar texture to rice you know it's
Dialogue: 0,0:26:40.72,0:26:41.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sort of
Dialogue: 0,0:26:41.12,0:26:43.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,uh it's sort of firm but sort of soft at
Dialogue: 0,0:26:43.76,0:26:46.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the same time and so and it's flavorless
Dialogue: 0,0:26:46.00,0:26:46.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so
Dialogue: 0,0:26:46.88,0:26:48.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,yeah say go and custard i wanted to make
Dialogue: 0,0:26:48.80,0:26:50.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sure it was like bulky like the picture
Dialogue: 0,0:26:50.88,0:26:53.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and uh yeah no it just sort of came to
Dialogue: 0,0:26:53.28,0:26:54.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,life it was
Dialogue: 0,0:26:54.32,0:26:55.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know i thought it would be a neat
Dialogue: 0,0:26:55.76,0:26:57.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,launching thing you know to have it on
Dialogue: 0,0:26:57.44,0:26:59.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the website at launch
Dialogue: 0,0:26:59.12,0:27:00.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,yeah that's awesome i was like no way
Dialogue: 0,0:27:00.88,0:27:02.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you made the pie come to life
Dialogue: 0,0:27:02.48,0:27:04.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,now how long did it take you to make the
Dialogue: 0,0:27:04.00,0:27:05.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,pie come to light like did you spend
Dialogue: 0,0:27:05.44,0:27:06.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,time like studying recipes
Dialogue: 0,0:27:06.96,0:27:08.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or did you already like do you bake a
Dialogue: 0,0:27:08.64,0:27:09.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,lot so did you really know how to like
Dialogue: 0,0:27:09.92,0:27:11.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,make a pie
Dialogue: 0,0:27:11.12,0:27:14.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i i don't do a lot of baking um but
Dialogue: 0,0:27:14.40,0:27:16.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know i was thinking back to the time
Dialogue: 0,0:27:16.00,0:27:19.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i made my very first pumpkin pie
Dialogue: 0,0:27:19.36,0:27:22.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know because uh america yes
Dialogue: 0,0:27:22.96,0:27:24.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so i was like you know what if i can
Dialogue: 0,0:27:24.32,0:27:26.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,make pumpkin pie for the first time i
Dialogue: 0,0:27:26.16,0:27:28.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,think i can experiment with this so
Dialogue: 0,0:27:28.56,0:27:31.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i think for me you know i the blog
Dialogue: 0,0:27:31.68,0:27:34.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is actually on the website creditpie.com
Dialogue: 0,0:27:34.00,0:27:35.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i actually have listed you know how the
Dialogue: 0,0:27:35.84,0:27:36.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,steps and
Dialogue: 0,0:27:36.56,0:27:39.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what i did to make the pie and my my
Dialogue: 0,0:27:39.12,0:27:40.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,three-year-old son helped me which was
Dialogue: 0,0:27:40.88,0:27:42.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,incredible
Dialogue: 0,0:27:42.08,0:27:43.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,um but yeah i know i was just
Dialogue: 0,0:27:43.60,0:27:45.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,experimenting it took a two to
Dialogue: 0,0:27:45.12,0:27:47.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a few different tries with a friend as
Dialogue: 0,0:27:47.36,0:27:48.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,well to get it right
Dialogue: 0,0:27:48.96,0:27:51.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and uh yeah i finally just just landed
Dialogue: 0,0:27:51.76,0:27:52.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on
Dialogue: 0,0:27:52.08,0:27:55.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a decent one but
Dialogue: 0,0:27:55.44,0:27:58.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,yeah it was it was fun yeah and then how
Dialogue: 0,0:27:58.72,0:28:00.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,did you get the colors to be
Dialogue: 0,0:28:00.32,0:28:02.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,perfect like that because i would
Dialogue: 0,0:28:02.16,0:28:04.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,imagine i had to mix them in different
Dialogue: 0,0:28:04.16,0:28:06.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,walls yeah i had to like
Dialogue: 0,0:28:06.08,0:28:07.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,segregate their colors into different
Dialogue: 0,0:28:07.92,0:28:09.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,bowls and add in
Dialogue: 0,0:28:09.36,0:28:11.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the right amount of food coloring and
Dialogue: 0,0:28:11.92,0:28:13.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then just carefully like
Dialogue: 0,0:28:13.52,0:28:16.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,make them into like this circle i have
Dialogue: 0,0:28:16.64,0:28:18.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,an eye for detail so
Dialogue: 0,0:28:18.16,0:28:21.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this really helped me in this regard
Dialogue: 0,0:28:21.20,0:28:24.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,oh i see you made one version it just
Dialogue: 0,0:28:24.24,0:28:25.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,didn't look like the way you wanted to
Dialogue: 0,0:28:25.68,0:28:28.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,work out yeah yeah
Dialogue: 0,0:28:28.48,0:28:32.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,wow that's that's unique
Dialogue: 0,0:28:32.40,0:28:34.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's amazing i want to try some now so
Dialogue: 0,0:28:34.64,0:28:35.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like you're saying this soon they're
Dialogue: 0,0:28:35.68,0:28:36.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,going to have over like
Dialogue: 0,0:28:36.80,0:28:39.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you can buy some or just just to make
Dialogue: 0,0:28:39.52,0:28:41.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the recipe for all the recipes that was
Dialogue: 0,0:28:41.20,0:28:42.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just like a
Dialogue: 0,0:28:42.40,0:28:44.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,novelty thing you know something fun to
Dialogue: 0,0:28:44.40,0:28:46.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,put out there that would make people
Dialogue: 0,0:28:46.72,0:28:50.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,uh interested yeah wow
Dialogue: 0,0:28:50.48,0:28:52.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so then you started the the chromatic
Dialogue: 0,0:28:52.96,0:28:53.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,pie
Dialogue: 0,0:28:53.52,0:28:57.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in october of last year right yes yes
Dialogue: 0,0:28:57.04,0:29:00.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so what was the process like leading up
Dialogue: 0,0:29:00.24,0:29:01.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to that moment
Dialogue: 0,0:29:01.04,0:29:03.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like the technical stuff so you came up
Dialogue: 0,0:29:03.84,0:29:04.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with your idea
Dialogue: 0,0:29:04.88,0:29:08.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what did you do next um
Dialogue: 0,0:29:08.00,0:29:11.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so i i didn't launch the studio
Dialogue: 0,0:29:11.36,0:29:14.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,without having a game in mind so what i
Dialogue: 0,0:29:14.32,0:29:15.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,did was
Dialogue: 0,0:29:15.44,0:29:17.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,really just try to detail as much as i
Dialogue: 0,0:29:17.68,0:29:19.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,can about a video game idea
Dialogue: 0,0:29:19.92,0:29:23.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and really just go through and make sure
Dialogue: 0,0:29:23.20,0:29:23.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that
Dialogue: 0,0:29:23.92,0:29:25.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's something that i'm happy with
Dialogue: 0,0:29:25.44,0:29:27.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,before i can hand it off to
Dialogue: 0,0:29:27.12,0:29:30.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,uh developers to to bring it to life so
Dialogue: 0,0:29:30.64,0:29:32.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so that is something i worked on there
Dialogue: 0,0:29:32.88,0:29:35.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,writing some documentation but also you
Dialogue: 0,0:29:35.20,0:29:37.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,know the business side of things like
Dialogue: 0,0:29:37.68,0:29:40.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,incorporating the company uh getting
Dialogue: 0,0:29:40.56,0:29:42.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,those bank accounts up and running
Dialogue: 0,0:29:42.96,0:29:45.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,um you know my my accountant that does
Dialogue: 0,0:29:45.68,0:29:46.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all my lorry pops
Dialogue: 0,0:29:46.96,0:29:50.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,uh content creation stuff he's doing my
Dialogue: 0,0:29:50.64,0:29:52.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,chromatic pie stuff and he's just
Dialogue: 0,0:29:52.64,0:29:54.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,absolutely amazing so
Dialogue: 0,0:29:54.40,0:29:56.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know i made sure that i i set all
Dialogue: 0,0:29:56.24,0:29:58.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,these important things up you know but
Dialogue: 0,0:29:58.40,0:30:01.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,pretty base level uh business stuff
Dialogue: 0,0:30:01.44,0:30:04.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and so i did that and yeah
Dialogue: 0,0:30:04.96,0:30:07.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i guess you know just making sure the
Dialogue: 0,0:30:07.04,0:30:08.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,website was up and running i tried to
Dialogue: 0,0:30:08.56,0:30:09.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,make the website uh
Dialogue: 0,0:30:09.68,0:30:11.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as accessible as possible i tried to
Dialogue: 0,0:30:11.60,0:30:14.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,make it um easy to read
Dialogue: 0,0:30:14.00,0:30:17.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,easy to to navigate and i was actually
Dialogue: 0,0:30:17.20,0:30:18.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,really surprised because you know i
Dialogue: 0,0:30:18.88,0:30:20.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,didn't have any help with the website's
Dialogue: 0,0:30:20.64,0:30:22.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,design i just went on squarespace and
Dialogue: 0,0:30:22.80,0:30:24.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,picked a layout and then adjusted it
Dialogue: 0,0:30:24.80,0:30:26.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from there
Dialogue: 0,0:30:26.32,0:30:29.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but when i went onto this accessibility
Dialogue: 0,0:30:29.44,0:30:32.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,tool website you actually enter in your
Dialogue: 0,0:30:32.00,0:30:33.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,website and it tells you how
Dialogue: 0,0:30:33.52,0:30:35.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,accessible it is and where you need to
Dialogue: 0,0:30:35.28,0:30:37.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,improve so i actually got i think a 97
Dialogue: 0,0:30:37.76,0:30:39.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,percent rating
Dialogue: 0,0:30:39.04,0:30:43.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,um and yeah so i was like wow like i
Dialogue: 0,0:30:43.36,0:30:44.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,actually
Dialogue: 0,0:30:44.08,0:30:47.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know my um my intuition really
Dialogue: 0,0:30:47.20,0:30:49.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,paid off there i you know i did it all
Dialogue: 0,0:30:49.60,0:30:50.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,quite well
Dialogue: 0,0:30:50.32,0:30:52.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,um so i was really proud of that you
Dialogue: 0,0:30:52.32,0:30:54.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,know and just yeah making sure i had all
Dialogue: 0,0:30:54.16,0:30:56.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,these things done like the the fun thing
Dialogue: 0,0:30:56.24,0:30:57.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like the pie
Dialogue: 0,0:30:57.76,0:31:00.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,um and i've got some hats as well
Dialogue: 0,0:31:00.80,0:31:03.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,some keratic pie caps and bucket hats
Dialogue: 0,0:31:03.52,0:31:04.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,too
Dialogue: 0,0:31:04.32,0:31:06.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so i was just yeah organizing quite a
Dialogue: 0,0:31:06.08,0:31:07.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,few things behind the scene to
Dialogue: 0,0:31:07.68,0:31:11.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,make the launch as as impressionable as
Dialogue: 0,0:31:11.84,0:31:13.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,possible
Dialogue: 0,0:31:13.28,0:31:15.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,oh i see you get the cp bucket head and
Dialogue: 0,0:31:15.76,0:31:18.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the cp brush cotton cap
Dialogue: 0,0:31:18.40,0:31:20.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for the two different hats that's so
Dialogue: 0,0:31:20.08,0:31:23.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,cool that's awesome
Dialogue: 0,0:31:23.04,0:31:26.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i need to get myself one there
Dialogue: 0,0:31:26.24,0:31:28.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so i see you also so the game you work
Dialogue: 0,0:31:28.88,0:31:31.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on is a unity 2d platform game
Dialogue: 0,0:31:31.68,0:31:34.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,yes details
Dialogue: 0,0:31:34.96,0:31:37.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are just keeping it all secret yeah it's
Dialogue: 0,0:31:37.76,0:31:39.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a secret for now
Dialogue: 0,0:31:39.04,0:31:41.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,uh so yeah it is a 2d pixel platformer
Dialogue: 0,0:31:41.92,0:31:43.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on unity
Dialogue: 0,0:31:43.12,0:31:46.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,um it is
Dialogue: 0,0:31:46.24,0:31:47.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,yeah i don't really know how much i can
Dialogue: 0,0:31:47.84,0:31:49.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,say about it without
Dialogue: 0,0:31:49.44,0:31:52.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,without giving it away i would say that
Dialogue: 0,0:31:52.00,0:31:52.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it isn't
Dialogue: 0,0:31:52.72,0:31:56.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like any other platformer um
Dialogue: 0,0:31:56.08,0:31:59.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that you know of or that you've played a
Dialogue: 0,0:31:59.36,0:32:02.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,specifically designed a core element and
Dialogue: 0,0:32:02.32,0:32:04.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,actually two core elements of the game
Dialogue: 0,0:32:04.00,0:32:05.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this is what you want but you know when
Dialogue: 0,0:32:05.60,0:32:06.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you're
Dialogue: 0,0:32:06.88,0:32:09.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the game design you want it to uh be
Dialogue: 0,0:32:09.44,0:32:10.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,different from
Dialogue: 0,0:32:10.80,0:32:14.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,other games and to some degree so i've
Dialogue: 0,0:32:14.00,0:32:15.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,got two core elements that'll really
Dialogue: 0,0:32:15.76,0:32:16.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,make people
Dialogue: 0,0:32:16.56,0:32:18.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,think you know wow this is interesting
Dialogue: 0,0:32:18.56,0:32:19.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,well that's really
Dialogue: 0,0:32:19.60,0:32:21.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's really fun while this works out
Dialogue: 0,0:32:21.68,0:32:23.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,really good you know so that was really
Dialogue: 0,0:32:23.44,0:32:25.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,important to me to make the game
Dialogue: 0,0:32:25.20,0:32:27.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,um stand out from the crowd and have a
Dialogue: 0,0:32:27.44,0:32:29.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,chance of of being
Dialogue: 0,0:32:29.04,0:32:31.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,more successful than it would if it was
Dialogue: 0,0:32:31.04,0:32:32.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just another
Dialogue: 0,0:32:32.24,0:32:35.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,2d platformer yeah and then for the
Dialogue: 0,0:32:35.76,0:32:37.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,development team is it how many people
Dialogue: 0,0:32:37.92,0:32:39.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is it or
Dialogue: 0,0:32:39.68,0:32:43.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,yeah is
Dialogue: 0,0:32:43.12,0:32:44.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,would you be surprised it's just me
Dialogue: 0,0:32:44.72,0:32:47.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,right now
Dialogue: 0,0:32:47.12,0:32:48.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so i've done everything right now
Dialogue: 0,0:32:48.64,0:32:50.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,however um
Dialogue: 0,0:32:50.16,0:32:52.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i have been in talks with uh two
Dialogue: 0,0:32:52.40,0:32:54.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,investors that are really interested in
Dialogue: 0,0:32:54.16,0:32:55.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,coming on board
Dialogue: 0,0:32:55.52,0:32:58.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that is another thing you know indeed
Dialogue: 0,0:32:58.08,0:32:59.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and these studios really struggle with
Dialogue: 0,0:32:59.68,0:33:00.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,finding
Dialogue: 0,0:33:00.40,0:33:04.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,funding um and finding
Dialogue: 0,0:33:04.24,0:33:06.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know just that support that you
Dialogue: 0,0:33:06.00,0:33:08.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,really need so i've been lucky with my
Dialogue: 0,0:33:08.40,0:33:10.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with my social media presence and status
Dialogue: 0,0:33:10.56,0:33:12.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and a lot of people
Dialogue: 0,0:33:12.32,0:33:14.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,know about being new zealand and
Dialogue: 0,0:33:14.40,0:33:16.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,overseas as well
Dialogue: 0,0:33:16.40,0:33:18.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you know an investor one of the
Dialogue: 0,0:33:18.96,0:33:20.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,first investors that found me
Dialogue: 0,0:33:20.80,0:33:23.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,found me on twitch and he just tuned in
Dialogue: 0,0:33:23.84,0:33:24.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to
Dialogue: 0,0:33:24.32,0:33:27.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,watch my uh the last of us part two
Dialogue: 0,0:33:27.60,0:33:29.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,uh gameplay and what i thought of the
Dialogue: 0,0:33:29.68,0:33:31.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,game and i just happened to be talking
Dialogue: 0,0:33:31.28,0:33:33.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about chromatic pie at the time
Dialogue: 0,0:33:33.52,0:33:34.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then he reached out to me on
Dialogue: 0,0:33:34.72,0:33:36.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,linkedin and then we started talking
Dialogue: 0,0:33:36.80,0:33:38.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you know those sort of things are
Dialogue: 0,0:33:38.24,0:33:40.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like crazy you know like what if he
Dialogue: 0,0:33:40.32,0:33:41.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,tuned in at a different time i would
Dialogue: 0,0:33:41.76,0:33:43.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have missed that opportunity
Dialogue: 0,0:33:43.04,0:33:46.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,uh completely you know that's like
Dialogue: 0,0:33:46.64,0:33:49.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,yeah yeah it definitely is so so that
Dialogue: 0,0:33:49.60,0:33:51.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was sort of how that came about
Dialogue: 0,0:33:51.36,0:33:54.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and i knew that my business
Dialogue: 0,0:33:54.88,0:33:58.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,uh was unique from all others you know
Dialogue: 0,0:33:58.48,0:34:00.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from conception what it's all about the
Dialogue: 0,0:34:00.48,0:34:02.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,logo the name and everything
Dialogue: 0,0:34:02.40,0:34:04.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i knew that i could grab attention from
Dialogue: 0,0:34:04.80,0:34:05.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,current you know
Dialogue: 0,0:34:05.60,0:34:08.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,future investors that way um also with
Dialogue: 0,0:34:08.48,0:34:10.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,my status in the country and
Dialogue: 0,0:34:10.08,0:34:13.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,globally in the industry and so another
Dialogue: 0,0:34:13.20,0:34:15.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,investor uh which i i won't name any of
Dialogue: 0,0:34:15.76,0:34:16.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,them
Dialogue: 0,0:34:16.32,0:34:17.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but the second investor that's
Dialogue: 0,0:34:17.76,0:34:19.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,interested is from america and i've
Dialogue: 0,0:34:19.60,0:34:20.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,known
Dialogue: 0,0:34:20.56,0:34:23.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,them for a very long time and
Dialogue: 0,0:34:23.60,0:34:26.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know they're entrepreneurs and you
Dialogue: 0,0:34:26.08,0:34:27.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just never know
Dialogue: 0,0:34:27.12,0:34:29.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where your contacts are gonna like link
Dialogue: 0,0:34:29.84,0:34:30.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,into each other
Dialogue: 0,0:34:30.88,0:34:34.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or anything like that but i've actually
Dialogue: 0,0:34:34.24,0:34:37.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,enrolled myself into an incubation
Dialogue: 0,0:34:37.60,0:34:38.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,program
Dialogue: 0,0:34:38.40,0:34:40.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a business incubation program that goes
Dialogue: 0,0:34:40.56,0:34:41.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for uh
Dialogue: 0,0:34:41.44,0:34:43.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,three months to 12 months so i'm really
Dialogue: 0,0:34:43.92,0:34:45.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just trying to do all these things
Dialogue: 0,0:34:45.52,0:34:46.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,myself
Dialogue: 0,0:34:46.16,0:34:49.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to make sure that um i have enough money
Dialogue: 0,0:34:49.44,0:34:50.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to hire people
Dialogue: 0,0:34:50.56,0:34:53.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when the time comes that i can be a good
Dialogue: 0,0:34:53.20,0:34:54.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,boss
Dialogue: 0,0:34:54.00,0:34:56.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that i can really lift up the company
Dialogue: 0,0:34:56.00,0:34:57.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and ensure its success
Dialogue: 0,0:34:57.84,0:35:00.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and so yeah i really needed to do all
Dialogue: 0,0:35:00.40,0:35:01.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this
Dialogue: 0,0:35:01.04,0:35:03.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ground level work first before i could
Dialogue: 0,0:35:03.76,0:35:07.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,get anybody else on board with me
Dialogue: 0,0:35:07.12,0:35:08.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,oh yeah that's key because you need to
Dialogue: 0,0:35:08.56,0:35:10.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,make sure you're all set and prepared to
Dialogue: 0,0:35:10.16,0:35:11.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,launch your business to success and
Dialogue: 0,0:35:11.92,0:35:12.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's another thing
Dialogue: 0,0:35:12.96,0:35:14.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for any all the students listening that
Dialogue: 0,0:35:14.88,0:35:16.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like you must
Dialogue: 0,0:35:16.08,0:35:17.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,focus on the small things you don't
Dialogue: 0,0:35:17.84,0:35:19.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,think it's important but it becomes
Dialogue: 0,0:35:19.12,0:35:20.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,important like
Dialogue: 0,0:35:20.24,0:35:22.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,lawyers um having like legal stuff
Dialogue: 0,0:35:22.32,0:35:25.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,taking care of the bank accounts
Dialogue: 0,0:35:25.12,0:35:26.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the logo on the website all other stuff
Dialogue: 0,0:35:26.56,0:35:28.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is like cool and nice but there's a lot
Dialogue: 0,0:35:28.24,0:35:29.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of like different things too that's
Dialogue: 0,0:35:29.60,0:35:31.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,really important and then you know
Dialogue: 0,0:35:31.68,0:35:33.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you're killing it so
Dialogue: 0,0:35:33.20,0:35:35.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,congratulations yeah i do want to say
Dialogue: 0,0:35:35.28,0:35:37.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that um you know
Dialogue: 0,0:35:37.28,0:35:39.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,game developers uh you know they can
Dialogue: 0,0:35:39.76,0:35:40.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,make
Dialogue: 0,0:35:40.48,0:35:42.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,amazing games but they don't always make
Dialogue: 0,0:35:42.96,0:35:44.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,great business people
Dialogue: 0,0:35:44.16,0:35:46.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or great managers or great studio owners
Dialogue: 0,0:35:46.88,0:35:48.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so that's one thing i really want to
Dialogue: 0,0:35:48.24,0:35:50.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,emphasize is you really need to educate
Dialogue: 0,0:35:50.32,0:35:52.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,yourself on how to run a business
Dialogue: 0,0:35:52.56,0:35:54.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,um doesn't matter how talented you are
Dialogue: 0,0:35:54.64,0:35:55.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at
Dialogue: 0,0:35:55.76,0:35:57.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,making a game you really need to get the
Dialogue: 0,0:35:57.60,0:35:59.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,business side so for me
Dialogue: 0,0:35:59.28,0:36:02.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,business side comes more naturally to me
Dialogue: 0,0:36:02.16,0:36:02.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and
Dialogue: 0,0:36:02.64,0:36:06.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,game development is more secondary so
Dialogue: 0,0:36:06.16,0:36:09.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,yeah i would say that nice and so for
Dialogue: 0,0:36:09.76,0:36:11.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with the little bit that you are doing
Dialogue: 0,0:36:11.36,0:36:13.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are you like doing the game design part
Dialogue: 0,0:36:13.92,0:36:14.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of it
Dialogue: 0,0:36:14.32,0:36:16.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,planning out blah blah blah making
Dialogue: 0,0:36:16.48,0:36:17.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,prototypes drawing stuff
Dialogue: 0,0:36:17.84,0:36:19.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or you just come up at the end and
Dialogue: 0,0:36:19.12,0:36:20.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,eventually going to get everyone else to
Dialogue: 0,0:36:20.32,0:36:22.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like build your vision
Dialogue: 0,0:36:22.08,0:36:23.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i've written some because i was a
Dialogue: 0,0:36:23.92,0:36:25.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,producer for the
Dialogue: 0,0:36:25.12,0:36:27.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,design department you know as i said
Dialogue: 0,0:36:27.12,0:36:29.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like i hold on to things and i'm like a
Dialogue: 0,0:36:29.12,0:36:30.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sponge so
Dialogue: 0,0:36:30.24,0:36:34.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,um i saw you know the documentation um
Dialogue: 0,0:36:34.08,0:36:35.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the you know the prototypes that they
Dialogue: 0,0:36:35.84,0:36:37.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,had made you know
Dialogue: 0,0:36:37.36,0:36:40.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just everything um i really took it on
Dialogue: 0,0:36:40.00,0:36:41.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,board and so i'm doing
Dialogue: 0,0:36:41.92,0:36:44.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,uh what i can outside of the unity
Dialogue: 0,0:36:44.64,0:36:46.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,engine at the moment
Dialogue: 0,0:36:46.24,0:36:49.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so once i hire people they will be
Dialogue: 0,0:36:49.12,0:36:50.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,actually creating the prototype
Dialogue: 0,0:36:50.56,0:36:53.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for me on a contract um and then we'll
Dialogue: 0,0:36:53.28,0:36:55.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,go and secure more funding if we haven't
Dialogue: 0,0:36:55.52,0:36:56.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,already
Dialogue: 0,0:36:56.00,0:36:58.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then i'll officially employ them if
Dialogue: 0,0:36:58.24,0:37:00.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they want to stay on board
Dialogue: 0,0:37:00.16,0:37:02.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then hire like a wider team so
Dialogue: 0,0:37:02.64,0:37:04.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's sort of my game plan at the
Dialogue: 0,0:37:04.00,0:37:05.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,moment but as far as the game design
Dialogue: 0,0:37:05.92,0:37:06.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,goes
Dialogue: 0,0:37:06.80,0:37:09.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,uh you know i've designed the the sort
Dialogue: 0,0:37:09.44,0:37:10.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of
Dialogue: 0,0:37:10.08,0:37:12.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,vision for the intro of the game the
Dialogue: 0,0:37:12.48,0:37:13.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,cutscenes
Dialogue: 0,0:37:13.68,0:37:16.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,uh the first uh narration of the game
Dialogue: 0,0:37:16.88,0:37:19.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you know who you interact with as a
Dialogue: 0,0:37:19.84,0:37:22.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,player first and i've i've sort of laid
Dialogue: 0,0:37:22.00,0:37:24.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,out their vision so it's easy to sort of
Dialogue: 0,0:37:24.08,0:37:25.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,uh pivot off
Dialogue: 0,0:37:25.36,0:37:27.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when it does come to putting it um into
Dialogue: 0,0:37:27.52,0:37:29.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a prototype
Dialogue: 0,0:37:29.28,0:37:31.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,wow that's incredible and for anybody
Dialogue: 0,0:37:31.60,0:37:33.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who doesn't really understand
Dialogue: 0,0:37:33.04,0:37:35.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like the process that it takes how long
Dialogue: 0,0:37:35.76,0:37:37.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,has have you been like designing this
Dialogue: 0,0:37:37.52,0:37:39.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,game and it's been in your mind and
Dialogue: 0,0:37:39.44,0:37:41.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then how do you well first answer
Dialogue: 0,0:37:41.92,0:37:42.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that and we'll get to
Dialogue: 0,0:37:42.80,0:37:45.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a little bit more into it okay so as of
Dialogue: 0,0:37:45.84,0:37:46.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this year
Dialogue: 0,0:37:46.72,0:37:49.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i've gone full time into working on the
Dialogue: 0,0:37:49.92,0:37:50.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,business
Dialogue: 0,0:37:50.88,0:37:53.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,last year was more sort of part-time
Dialogue: 0,0:37:53.92,0:37:55.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,um you know because last year was quite
Dialogue: 0,0:37:55.76,0:37:57.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,tough for everybody and i was still
Dialogue: 0,0:37:57.68,0:37:59.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,streaming and whatnot so
Dialogue: 0,0:37:59.84,0:38:03.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,um i would say from
Dialogue: 0,0:38:03.84,0:38:06.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,oh i don't really know exactly when i
Dialogue: 0,0:38:06.00,0:38:07.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,started designing my game
Dialogue: 0,0:38:07.68,0:38:11.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i had a game idea that had the same core
Dialogue: 0,0:38:11.36,0:38:13.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,mechanics but the story was different
Dialogue: 0,0:38:13.76,0:38:16.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and i decided that i needed to iterate
Dialogue: 0,0:38:16.64,0:38:17.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on the story
Dialogue: 0,0:38:17.44,0:38:19.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it was actually going to be about uh
Dialogue: 0,0:38:19.28,0:38:20.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,mental health
Dialogue: 0,0:38:20.72,0:38:23.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and so i thought you know what that's
Dialogue: 0,0:38:23.12,0:38:24.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,actually
Dialogue: 0,0:38:24.00,0:38:26.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i want to do that sometime but i think
Dialogue: 0,0:38:26.08,0:38:28.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as a first title it's probably a bit too
Dialogue: 0,0:38:28.32,0:38:29.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,much
Dialogue: 0,0:38:29.12,0:38:30.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,um you know those shoes are really big
Dialogue: 0,0:38:30.96,0:38:33.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to fill and you have to do it right so i
Dialogue: 0,0:38:33.12,0:38:36.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sort of was like okay i'll bench that
Dialogue: 0,0:38:36.16,0:38:38.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for another game and then i decided to
Dialogue: 0,0:38:38.56,0:38:40.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,make a different story revolving around
Dialogue: 0,0:38:40.40,0:38:41.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,these core mechanics again
Dialogue: 0,0:38:41.84,0:38:44.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then i was so much happier with this
Dialogue: 0,0:38:44.16,0:38:45.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,design so
Dialogue: 0,0:38:45.36,0:38:47.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there has been a second iteration of the
Dialogue: 0,0:38:47.52,0:38:48.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,game already
Dialogue: 0,0:38:48.64,0:38:52.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,um that just you know this year i'm
Dialogue: 0,0:38:52.24,0:38:53.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,hoping to
Dialogue: 0,0:38:53.12,0:38:56.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,get the prototype done around about
Dialogue: 0,0:38:56.16,0:38:57.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,mid-year
Dialogue: 0,0:38:57.52,0:39:00.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and i'm aiming to release the game 2023
Dialogue: 0,0:39:00.96,0:39:03.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,possibly 2024 so just spend it at two or
Dialogue: 0,0:39:03.92,0:39:05.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,three years of the game
Dialogue: 0,0:39:05.36,0:39:08.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,um you know for chromatic pie i don't
Dialogue: 0,0:39:08.00,0:39:08.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,see
Dialogue: 0,0:39:08.48,0:39:11.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the studio turning into a big um
Dialogue: 0,0:39:11.84,0:39:15.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,realistic graphics uh big aaa
Dialogue: 0,0:39:15.36,0:39:18.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sort of sort of company i want to work
Dialogue: 0,0:39:18.64,0:39:19.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on
Dialogue: 0,0:39:19.44,0:39:22.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,smaller games so the company can work on
Dialogue: 0,0:39:22.64,0:39:23.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,different ips
Dialogue: 0,0:39:23.68,0:39:26.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at the same time and
Dialogue: 0,0:39:26.80,0:39:28.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,yeah hopefully raking more money that
Dialogue: 0,0:39:28.72,0:39:30.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,way than you know spending
Dialogue: 0,0:39:30.48,0:39:33.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,five to six seven eight years on one
Dialogue: 0,0:39:33.20,0:39:33.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,title
Dialogue: 0,0:39:33.92,0:39:36.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know that's pretty tough it's pretty
Dialogue: 0,0:39:36.00,0:39:37.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,tough on the team
Dialogue: 0,0:39:37.28,0:39:40.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and i i am so wowed by the companies
Dialogue: 0,0:39:40.72,0:39:42.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that that do that
Dialogue: 0,0:39:42.16,0:39:44.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but i've also seen the the struggles and
Dialogue: 0,0:39:44.96,0:39:46.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the many struggles
Dialogue: 0,0:39:46.64,0:39:48.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of you know going through that so for me
Dialogue: 0,0:39:48.56,0:39:50.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i want to have small teams working on
Dialogue: 0,0:39:50.72,0:39:52.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,smaller games
Dialogue: 0,0:39:52.08,0:39:55.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,um and yet run the company that way
Dialogue: 0,0:39:55.20,0:39:56.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's smart we have a saying in this
Dialogue: 0,0:39:56.80,0:39:58.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,podcast where it's like don't make wow
Dialogue: 0,0:39:58.88,0:40:01.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,don't make the biggest thing possible
Dialogue: 0,0:40:01.52,0:40:02.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,make small games
Dialogue: 0,0:40:02.80,0:40:05.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then eventually you can make that
Dialogue: 0,0:40:05.36,0:40:05.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,yeah
Dialogue: 0,0:40:05.84,0:40:08.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just down the line yeah yeah exactly
Dialogue: 0,0:40:08.88,0:40:11.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and so then when you're now designing
Dialogue: 0,0:40:11.36,0:40:12.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and thinking about this game do you have
Dialogue: 0,0:40:12.64,0:40:13.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like
Dialogue: 0,0:40:13.36,0:40:16.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as like a setup that you have to design
Dialogue: 0,0:40:16.32,0:40:17.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the game like do you have like a board
Dialogue: 0,0:40:17.92,0:40:21.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,nodes flow charts yeah so
Dialogue: 0,0:40:21.44,0:40:24.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,yep so i have a whiteboard which i laid
Dialogue: 0,0:40:24.72,0:40:25.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,out
Dialogue: 0,0:40:25.28,0:40:28.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,my sort of uh the steps to
Dialogue: 0,0:40:28.32,0:40:31.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the game's completion and then involved
Dialogue: 0,0:40:31.60,0:40:33.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the earlier days like launching the
Dialogue: 0,0:40:33.44,0:40:34.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,website
Dialogue: 0,0:40:34.32,0:40:37.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,um completing the business plan uh you
Dialogue: 0,0:40:37.36,0:40:38.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,know all these
Dialogue: 0,0:40:38.00,0:40:40.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,little all this this little road map of
Dialogue: 0,0:40:40.32,0:40:41.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,those sort of things
Dialogue: 0,0:40:41.44,0:40:43.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,um so i'm a visual person and i need to
Dialogue: 0,0:40:43.92,0:40:45.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know have that sort of
Dialogue: 0,0:40:45.36,0:40:47.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,vision that's that's always there for me
Dialogue: 0,0:40:47.12,0:40:49.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to look at uh so i had that i've also
Dialogue: 0,0:40:49.84,0:40:51.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,got a compendium
Dialogue: 0,0:40:51.36,0:40:54.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's filled with you know my ideas
Dialogue: 0,0:40:54.40,0:40:56.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,meeting notes from the meetings that i
Dialogue: 0,0:40:56.16,0:40:58.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have being a producer you know i've
Dialogue: 0,0:40:58.72,0:41:01.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i really learned a lot of skills with
Dialogue: 0,0:41:01.20,0:41:03.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,taking down notes and referring to them
Dialogue: 0,0:41:03.28,0:41:04.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,later
Dialogue: 0,0:41:04.48,0:41:06.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so i found that yeah compendium was very
Dialogue: 0,0:41:06.80,0:41:08.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,helpful
Dialogue: 0,0:41:08.00,0:41:11.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,um what else have i got i've got a book
Dialogue: 0,0:41:11.04,0:41:12.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's actually just like a i don't know
Dialogue: 0,0:41:12.80,0:41:14.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if i have it here with me at the moment
Dialogue: 0,0:41:14.32,0:41:14.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but
Dialogue: 0,0:41:14.88,0:41:18.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's just like a a 2b 2b
Dialogue: 0,0:41:18.32,0:41:20.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i think a red book and i just scribbled
Dialogue: 0,0:41:20.72,0:41:22.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in it all these game ideas you know on
Dialogue: 0,0:41:22.40,0:41:24.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,every single page just like leaving my
Dialogue: 0,0:41:24.16,0:41:25.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,brain just like
Dialogue: 0,0:41:25.04,0:41:28.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,fight to the paper and um
Dialogue: 0,0:41:28.64,0:41:30.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,nice and so like that really helped me
Dialogue: 0,0:41:30.88,0:41:33.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like just get all the creativity out and
Dialogue: 0,0:41:33.04,0:41:34.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then from there i put it into like a
Dialogue: 0,0:41:34.96,0:41:36.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,more tidier format
Dialogue: 0,0:41:36.96,0:41:40.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,um so i am someone that doesn't really
Dialogue: 0,0:41:40.16,0:41:42.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like to
Dialogue: 0,0:41:42.16,0:41:44.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,write all my ideas digitally from the
Dialogue: 0,0:41:44.40,0:41:46.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,get go i'm more of someone that likes
Dialogue: 0,0:41:46.24,0:41:48.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,pencil and paper you know pen on paper
Dialogue: 0,0:41:48.72,0:41:52.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then yeah go from there um
Dialogue: 0,0:41:52.00,0:41:54.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know i mean the kids these days that
Dialogue: 0,0:41:54.00,0:41:55.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are growing up they're gonna be more
Dialogue: 0,0:41:55.52,0:41:56.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,digital you know
Dialogue: 0,0:41:56.80,0:41:58.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,put it all in there but for me you know
Dialogue: 0,0:41:58.64,0:42:01.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i it helps my creativity when i hold
Dialogue: 0,0:42:01.28,0:42:03.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like a pin in my hand
Dialogue: 0,0:42:03.04,0:42:05.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,um and you know i've got a uh a
Dialogue: 0,0:42:05.60,0:42:06.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,microsoft
Dialogue: 0,0:42:06.72,0:42:10.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,uh laptop that microsoft kindly uh
Dialogue: 0,0:42:10.48,0:42:11.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,gifted to me
Dialogue: 0,0:42:11.60,0:42:14.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for the use of chromatic pie which was
Dialogue: 0,0:42:14.00,0:42:14.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,amazing
Dialogue: 0,0:42:14.72,0:42:17.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,thank you again if you're listening but
Dialogue: 0,0:42:17.36,0:42:18.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so i use that
Dialogue: 0,0:42:18.32,0:42:21.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as a as a dedicated uh device for
Dialogue: 0,0:42:21.12,0:42:22.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,chromatic pie and it's strong enough to
Dialogue: 0,0:42:22.88,0:42:23.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,run
Dialogue: 0,0:42:23.52,0:42:26.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,unity it comes off as a tablet as well
Dialogue: 0,0:42:26.88,0:42:29.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,uh so i can draw on it and it's just
Dialogue: 0,0:42:29.52,0:42:30.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,yeah
Dialogue: 0,0:42:30.00,0:42:31.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,yeah you really need to surround
Dialogue: 0,0:42:31.52,0:42:34.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,yourself with um these different
Dialogue: 0,0:42:34.32,0:42:37.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,um pieces that allow you to incorporate
Dialogue: 0,0:42:37.52,0:42:39.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,them separately
Dialogue: 0,0:42:39.04,0:42:41.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,um and put them into a computer when
Dialogue: 0,0:42:41.68,0:42:43.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you're done
Dialogue: 0,0:42:43.84,0:42:45.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and do you have anything running on
Dialogue: 0,0:42:45.12,0:42:47.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,unity yet like a little like
Dialogue: 0,0:42:47.20,0:42:51.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,little moving flick blob
Dialogue: 0,0:42:52.00,0:42:55.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,yeah so i i we i started learning about
Dialogue: 0,0:42:55.28,0:42:56.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,unity
Dialogue: 0,0:42:56.24,0:42:58.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,uh last year because the studio i worked
Dialogue: 0,0:42:58.80,0:43:00.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at worked inside unreal
Dialogue: 0,0:43:00.80,0:43:03.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so unity was something new for me but i
Dialogue: 0,0:43:03.20,0:43:04.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i knew that
Dialogue: 0,0:43:04.48,0:43:07.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,working on a platformer in unity was was
Dialogue: 0,0:43:07.28,0:43:09.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,quite beneficial
Dialogue: 0,0:43:09.28,0:43:10.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so i went through their sort of
Dialogue: 0,0:43:10.64,0:43:12.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,tutorials and at the moment i'm still
Dialogue: 0,0:43:12.96,0:43:15.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,um gaining a deeper understanding on how
Dialogue: 0,0:43:15.92,0:43:16.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to
Dialogue: 0,0:43:16.32,0:43:18.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,uh how to work it there's a youtube
Dialogue: 0,0:43:18.80,0:43:20.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,channel called bracky's
Dialogue: 0,0:43:20.24,0:43:21.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i don't know if you know that youtube
Dialogue: 0,0:43:21.52,0:43:24.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,channel yeah so they've been super
Dialogue: 0,0:43:24.08,0:43:24.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,helpful
Dialogue: 0,0:43:24.72,0:43:26.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they made a video i think a few
Dialogue: 0,0:43:26.56,0:43:27.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,months ago or something that they're
Dialogue: 0,0:43:27.92,0:43:31.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like they're gone they're like goodbye
Dialogue: 0,0:43:31.20,0:43:35.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i was like no i can use you
Dialogue: 0,0:43:35.52,0:43:37.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,yeah but you know there's heaps on there
Dialogue: 0,0:43:37.52,0:43:40.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so i'm all about uh self
Dialogue: 0,0:43:40.40,0:43:42.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know teaching yourself uh motivating
Dialogue: 0,0:43:42.48,0:43:43.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,yourself
Dialogue: 0,0:43:43.44,0:43:45.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,um actually another important aspect i
Dialogue: 0,0:43:45.36,0:43:46.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,didn't tell you uh
Dialogue: 0,0:43:46.96,0:43:48.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with you know starting chromatic pies
Dialogue: 0,0:43:48.96,0:43:50.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i've actually been listening to a lot of
Dialogue: 0,0:43:50.64,0:43:51.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,audio books
Dialogue: 0,0:43:51.52,0:43:54.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on uh entrepreneurship and on business
Dialogue: 0,0:43:54.64,0:43:55.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and on
Dialogue: 0,0:43:55.20,0:43:57.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,um finally really who's your favorite or
Dialogue: 0,0:43:57.68,0:44:00.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what's your favorite book
Dialogue: 0,0:44:00.08,0:44:03.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so most of them are uh written by women
Dialogue: 0,0:44:03.04,0:44:04.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they're read by women because i
Dialogue: 0,0:44:04.48,0:44:05.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,really do want to
Dialogue: 0,0:44:05.52,0:44:08.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,listen you know and feel related to
Dialogue: 0,0:44:08.88,0:44:12.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in that regard so i don't i i've got my
Dialogue: 0,0:44:12.24,0:44:13.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,phone in here i'll have to
Dialogue: 0,0:44:13.44,0:44:15.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,reference to my phone because my memory
Dialogue: 0,0:44:15.20,0:44:18.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is uh is not the best
Dialogue: 0,0:44:18.00,0:44:21.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's all good so i've listened to
Dialogue: 0,0:44:21.04,0:44:24.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,uh unapologetically ambitious by shelly
Dialogue: 0,0:44:24.40,0:44:26.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,archambault
Dialogue: 0,0:44:26.24,0:44:28.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the entrepreneur roller coaster by
Dialogue: 0,0:44:28.32,0:44:30.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,darren hardy that was written by
Dialogue: 0,0:44:30.00,0:44:33.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a male um culture wins by
Dialogue: 0,0:44:33.60,0:44:37.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,william van der blumen so i've listened
Dialogue: 0,0:44:37.28,0:44:40.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to quite a few and also some on just
Dialogue: 0,0:44:40.72,0:44:42.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,video games and making video games in
Dialogue: 0,0:44:42.32,0:44:44.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,general and they're super helpful
Dialogue: 0,0:44:44.24,0:44:46.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know they're just i think people
Dialogue: 0,0:44:46.80,0:44:47.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,should really
Dialogue: 0,0:44:47.68,0:44:50.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,turn to self-help i don't know is there
Dialogue: 0,0:44:50.32,0:44:51.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a stigma around like
Dialogue: 0,0:44:51.60,0:44:53.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,self-help you know that it doesn't
Dialogue: 0,0:44:53.28,0:44:54.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,actually work because
Dialogue: 0,0:44:54.64,0:44:57.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i feel like that it's true but for me
Dialogue: 0,0:44:57.44,0:44:59.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like i've actually absorbed everything
Dialogue: 0,0:44:59.68,0:45:02.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as much as i can and it's it's great
Dialogue: 0,0:45:02.32,0:45:04.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,yeah you're like my life is awesome i
Dialogue: 0,0:45:04.40,0:45:05.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,don't know
Dialogue: 0,0:45:05.76,0:45:08.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but it's working for me no i self-help
Dialogue: 0,0:45:08.32,0:45:09.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is interesting because it
Dialogue: 0,0:45:09.84,0:45:12.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it does work it essentially i think
Dialogue: 0,0:45:12.64,0:45:14.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,self-help
Dialogue: 0,0:45:14.08,0:45:16.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is what they teach you is pretty much
Dialogue: 0,0:45:16.80,0:45:17.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's it like
Dialogue: 0,0:45:17.60,0:45:20.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so if one person tells you well you know
Dialogue: 0,0:45:20.16,0:45:21.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how to do this it's not
Dialogue: 0,0:45:21.36,0:45:23.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you don't need to read 30 or 40 other
Dialogue: 0,0:45:23.12,0:45:24.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,books because they're all going to
Dialogue: 0,0:45:24.00,0:45:25.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,basically tell you the same thing in
Dialogue: 0,0:45:25.12,0:45:25.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,their own way
Dialogue: 0,0:45:25.92,0:45:27.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so i think that's where the stigma comes
Dialogue: 0,0:45:27.20,0:45:28.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where it's just like you get in the
Dialogue: 0,0:45:28.08,0:45:29.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,cycle you keep reading the same thing
Dialogue: 0,0:45:29.60,0:45:30.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,over and over and you feel motivated but
Dialogue: 0,0:45:30.96,0:45:32.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's like all right you got the message
Dialogue: 0,0:45:32.96,0:45:35.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,now go make it happen go do your thing
Dialogue: 0,0:45:35.52,0:45:36.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,whoever
Dialogue: 0,0:45:36.08,0:45:38.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,told you doesn't matter but just go i
Dialogue: 0,0:45:38.16,0:45:39.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,think that's where the signal comes from
Dialogue: 0,0:45:39.68,0:45:41.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and just disunderstand and the whole
Dialogue: 0,0:45:41.28,0:45:43.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,gurus online there's a lot of people
Dialogue: 0,0:45:43.12,0:45:43.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,online
Dialogue: 0,0:45:43.76,0:45:47.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who destroy the self-help image they
Dialogue: 0,0:45:47.20,0:45:48.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,don't know what they're talking about or
Dialogue: 0,0:45:48.88,0:45:50.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are they just starting their careers and
Dialogue: 0,0:45:50.56,0:45:51.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's like maybe
Dialogue: 0,0:45:51.60,0:45:53.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you shouldn't be the one telling me how
Dialogue: 0,0:45:53.36,0:45:55.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to get my life
Dialogue: 0,0:45:55.04,0:45:56.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like so that's where the stigma i think
Dialogue: 0,0:45:56.48,0:45:58.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,comes from but i i think it works
Dialogue: 0,0:45:58.00,0:45:59.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,perfectly fine
Dialogue: 0,0:45:59.04,0:46:00.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then actually this is another good
Dialogue: 0,0:46:00.48,0:46:01.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,book you should read it's called
Dialogue: 0,0:46:01.52,0:46:04.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,undaunted by characters
Dialogue: 0,0:46:04.00,0:46:05.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i've been thinking about picking that
Dialogue: 0,0:46:05.52,0:46:07.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,one up yeah you sure it's amazing
Dialogue: 0,0:46:07.44,0:46:08.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's it's incredible she's an amazing
Dialogue: 0,0:46:08.96,0:46:10.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,person actually i did the podcaster
Dialogue: 0,0:46:10.48,0:46:11.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,yesterday
Dialogue: 0,0:46:11.60,0:46:14.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where we talked about yeah so again she
Dialogue: 0,0:46:14.88,0:46:16.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just has this
Dialogue: 0,0:46:16.16,0:46:18.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,uh mentality of just like whatever is in
Dialogue: 0,0:46:18.40,0:46:19.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,front of me that's okay
Dialogue: 0,0:46:19.52,0:46:21.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i will get through it this might not
Dialogue: 0,0:46:21.52,0:46:23.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,work what can we do and that's one of my
Dialogue: 0,0:46:23.44,0:46:24.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,favorite quotes
Dialogue: 0,0:46:24.08,0:46:25.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,look it's like yeah you're right like
Dialogue: 0,0:46:25.68,0:46:27.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,okay this obstacles in my way i can't do
Dialogue: 0,0:46:27.44,0:46:28.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this
Dialogue: 0,0:46:28.16,0:46:30.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but what can i do besides all that what
Dialogue: 0,0:46:30.64,0:46:32.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,can we do to go around it to make it
Dialogue: 0,0:46:32.64,0:46:33.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,happen because
Dialogue: 0,0:46:33.44,0:46:35.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,why not let's just let's see what
Dialogue: 0,0:46:35.44,0:46:37.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,happens you can try she says
Dialogue: 0,0:46:37.12,0:46:38.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the one thing that really is important
Dialogue: 0,0:46:38.88,0:46:40.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to her and what everybody should like
Dialogue: 0,0:46:40.64,0:46:43.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,take from the podcast is just try
Dialogue: 0,0:46:43.04,0:46:45.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just try it just try that studio you
Dialogue: 0,0:46:45.28,0:46:46.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,want to make just try to make that game
Dialogue: 0,0:46:46.72,0:46:47.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just try to do that
Dialogue: 0,0:46:47.92,0:46:49.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to get la's just try you'll never know
Dialogue: 0,0:46:49.92,0:46:51.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what could happen you might succeed if
Dialogue: 0,0:46:51.36,0:46:52.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you don't you learn
Dialogue: 0,0:46:52.40,0:46:55.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you do when you learn exactly so that's
Dialogue: 0,0:46:55.44,0:46:56.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what i take from self-help and it's
Dialogue: 0,0:46:56.72,0:46:57.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,helped me too like i
Dialogue: 0,0:46:57.84,0:47:00.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i don't know what to tell people i know
Dialogue: 0,0:47:00.32,0:47:01.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i'm sorry
Dialogue: 0,0:47:01.04,0:47:02.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to work for you i mean i didn't spend
Dialogue: 0,0:47:02.80,0:47:04.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like ten thousand dollars on things so
Dialogue: 0,0:47:04.48,0:47:05.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that might be the thing too
Dialogue: 0,0:47:05.68,0:47:07.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i just buy the books and then listen to
Dialogue: 0,0:47:07.36,0:47:09.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the free stuff online and
Dialogue: 0,0:47:09.20,0:47:12.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so yep exactly yeah no it's um they've
Dialogue: 0,0:47:12.08,0:47:12.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,been
Dialogue: 0,0:47:12.40,0:47:14.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,extremely valuable and i think i will
Dialogue: 0,0:47:14.48,0:47:16.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,always listen you know i've got the
Dialogue: 0,0:47:16.00,0:47:17.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,monthly
Dialogue: 0,0:47:17.04,0:47:20.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,um audible um
Dialogue: 0,0:47:20.24,0:47:22.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ship uh what do you call it um
Dialogue: 0,0:47:22.48,0:47:23.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,subscription
Dialogue: 0,0:47:23.28,0:47:25.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so i'm always going to be reading
Dialogue: 0,0:47:25.36,0:47:27.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because of that
Dialogue: 0,0:47:27.36,0:47:29.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i love reading reading is so much fun
Dialogue: 0,0:47:29.36,0:47:30.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you learn so much
Dialogue: 0,0:47:30.72,0:47:32.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i feel like nobody reads anymore i don't
Dialogue: 0,0:47:32.08,0:47:34.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,know if that's just me but i don't know
Dialogue: 0,0:47:34.08,0:47:36.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,well for me i listen to the audiobook so
Dialogue: 0,0:47:36.40,0:47:38.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i can like do my dishes like i have to
Dialogue: 0,0:47:38.48,0:47:40.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,multitask i don't want to like
Dialogue: 0,0:47:40.32,0:47:42.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i can't sit still for too long like i'm
Dialogue: 0,0:47:42.64,0:47:44.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,always like moving my hand or my leg or
Dialogue: 0,0:47:44.88,0:47:46.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,something so
Dialogue: 0,0:47:46.00,0:47:47.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i love listening to audio books because
Dialogue: 0,0:47:47.52,0:47:49.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i can like do something else at the same
Dialogue: 0,0:47:49.76,0:47:52.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,time
Dialogue: 0,0:47:52.08,0:47:53.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so how do you like stay put when you
Dialogue: 0,0:47:53.92,0:47:55.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,twitch streaming do you just like how
Dialogue: 0,0:47:55.84,0:47:58.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,long do you twist before
Dialogue: 0,0:47:58.80,0:48:02.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,um possibly i think nowadays between two
Dialogue: 0,0:48:02.24,0:48:03.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and four hours at a time
Dialogue: 0,0:48:03.60,0:48:06.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know nothing too uh in my earlier
Dialogue: 0,0:48:06.32,0:48:07.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,twitch streaming days
Dialogue: 0,0:48:07.92,0:48:10.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i would do a 24 hour stream about once a
Dialogue: 0,0:48:10.32,0:48:12.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,week
Dialogue: 0,0:48:12.00,0:48:14.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,yeah and it was not good for my health
Dialogue: 0,0:48:14.48,0:48:15.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,no not
Dialogue: 0,0:48:15.28,0:48:18.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at all you know it's not healthy you
Dialogue: 0,0:48:18.08,0:48:20.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,know it's not sustainable um
Dialogue: 0,0:48:20.64,0:48:22.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so again do i stream for shorter than
Dialogue: 0,0:48:22.40,0:48:24.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this
Dialogue: 0,0:48:25.68,0:48:26.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how'd you stay put when you're doing
Dialogue: 0,0:48:26.80,0:48:28.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,twitch streams you just like in the flow
Dialogue: 0,0:48:28.80,0:48:32.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,focus yeah you know i do i
Dialogue: 0,0:48:32.24,0:48:35.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i shift myself on my seat sometimes i
Dialogue: 0,0:48:35.84,0:48:38.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i get sore knees you know if i sit for
Dialogue: 0,0:48:38.32,0:48:40.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,too long so i am
Dialogue: 0,0:48:40.00,0:48:42.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,yeah so i have to like uh what i'm doing
Dialogue: 0,0:48:42.48,0:48:44.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,right now is i've got my legs on one of
Dialogue: 0,0:48:44.16,0:48:46.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,my computers underneath the desk
Dialogue: 0,0:48:46.40,0:48:48.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,stretching out so yeah you know that's
Dialogue: 0,0:48:48.64,0:48:50.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just it's just me
Dialogue: 0,0:48:50.08,0:48:53.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,um a lot of people are like that as some
Dialogue: 0,0:48:53.04,0:48:54.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,can just like stay
Dialogue: 0,0:48:54.08,0:48:56.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,still for hours on ends and i'm like how
Dialogue: 0,0:48:56.56,0:48:59.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,do you do that
Dialogue: 0,0:49:00.72,0:49:02.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,yeah it's hard i i have a little thing
Dialogue: 0,0:49:02.80,0:49:04.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for my feet to like raise me up so i can
Dialogue: 0,0:49:04.96,0:49:05.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,stay
Dialogue: 0,0:49:05.36,0:49:08.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,comfortable but it's tough i don't know
Dialogue: 0,0:49:08.16,0:49:10.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because i see this chair like most of my
Dialogue: 0,0:49:10.00,0:49:10.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,day
Dialogue: 0,0:49:10.64,0:49:13.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so yeah
Dialogue: 0,0:49:14.00,0:49:15.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,those standing deaths are pretty good
Dialogue: 0,0:49:15.76,0:49:17.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but i don't know if i
Dialogue: 0,0:49:17.60,0:49:19.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i'd probably like switch it up like five
Dialogue: 0,0:49:19.92,0:49:22.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,times a day and be like
Dialogue: 0,0:49:22.40,0:49:24.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's too comfortable to like as much as
Dialogue: 0,0:49:24.08,0:49:25.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it helps it's nice like
Dialogue: 0,0:49:25.44,0:49:26.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i don't know there's just something nice
Dialogue: 0,0:49:26.72,0:49:28.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about being like all right i'm in my
Dialogue: 0,0:49:28.88,0:49:29.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,chair
Dialogue: 0,0:49:29.76,0:49:31.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i'm like it's like star trek i'm
Dialogue: 0,0:49:31.44,0:49:33.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,enterprise i'm in control
Dialogue: 0,0:49:33.04,0:49:36.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i don't know yeah
Dialogue: 0,0:49:36.40,0:49:39.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's funny but yeah so let's see
Dialogue: 0,0:49:39.76,0:49:42.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what that mentality you talk about being
Dialogue: 0,0:49:42.08,0:49:43.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to self-help do you feel like that's
Dialogue: 0,0:49:43.68,0:49:44.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,something
Dialogue: 0,0:49:44.00,0:49:46.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,people can learn to grow into or is that
Dialogue: 0,0:49:46.16,0:49:48.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,something that's just like
Dialogue: 0,0:49:48.80,0:49:50.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's like what's the inner talk that
Dialogue: 0,0:49:50.64,0:49:52.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,goes through you that makes you be more
Dialogue: 0,0:49:52.08,0:49:53.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,optimistic because i feel like you're
Dialogue: 0,0:49:53.04,0:49:54.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,very optimistic go get a courageous
Dialogue: 0,0:49:54.64,0:49:55.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,person so like
Dialogue: 0,0:49:55.84,0:49:57.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,yes what goes through your mindset is it
Dialogue: 0,0:49:57.76,0:49:59.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like hey this is not gonna work out and
Dialogue: 0,0:49:59.28,0:50:00.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you're like no it is and then you go do
Dialogue: 0,0:50:00.72,0:50:02.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it like
Dialogue: 0,0:50:02.00,0:50:03.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but you're in a diary yeah you know i
Dialogue: 0,0:50:03.84,0:50:05.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,thought i've got a lot of fight
Dialogue: 0,0:50:05.44,0:50:08.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in me um and i do like to exhaust my
Dialogue: 0,0:50:08.48,0:50:09.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,options so i know
Dialogue: 0,0:50:09.92,0:50:12.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that they're exhausted you know if they
Dialogue: 0,0:50:12.64,0:50:13.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if they don't work out
Dialogue: 0,0:50:13.84,0:50:16.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so for example example when i moved to
Dialogue: 0,0:50:16.88,0:50:19.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,usa you know i before i moved over there
Dialogue: 0,0:50:19.60,0:50:21.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with my son
Dialogue: 0,0:50:21.12,0:50:23.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i was like you know what i don't want to
Dialogue: 0,0:50:23.04,0:50:24.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,leave my family
Dialogue: 0,0:50:24.40,0:50:28.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i don't want to feel alone you know all
Dialogue: 0,0:50:28.00,0:50:29.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,these things and
Dialogue: 0,0:50:29.52,0:50:31.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i don't want to you know leave this
Dialogue: 0,0:50:31.44,0:50:33.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,person
Dialogue: 0,0:50:33.12,0:50:35.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so i was just like you know what i just
Dialogue: 0,0:50:35.20,0:50:36.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,need to go
Dialogue: 0,0:50:36.40,0:50:38.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because i might regret it later on if i
Dialogue: 0,0:50:38.40,0:50:40.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,don't and so i went
Dialogue: 0,0:50:40.56,0:50:43.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it didn't work out and it was
Dialogue: 0,0:50:43.68,0:50:46.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,horrible but i don't regret it and i i
Dialogue: 0,0:50:46.24,0:50:47.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,learnt so much
Dialogue: 0,0:50:47.36,0:50:49.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it's sort of the same attitude that
Dialogue: 0,0:50:49.92,0:50:50.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i took with me
Dialogue: 0,0:50:50.96,0:50:53.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so i moved back to my mother's place
Dialogue: 0,0:50:53.92,0:50:56.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when i moved back from america
Dialogue: 0,0:50:56.08,0:50:58.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i did previously have my own apartment
Dialogue: 0,0:50:58.48,0:50:59.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but someone else
Dialogue: 0,0:50:59.52,0:51:01.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,moved in unfortunately so i went back to
Dialogue: 0,0:51:01.68,0:51:03.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,my mom's
Dialogue: 0,0:51:03.20,0:51:05.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then i got my job in community
Dialogue: 0,0:51:05.20,0:51:07.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,management and being a producer and i
Dialogue: 0,0:51:07.12,0:51:08.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,actually moved
Dialogue: 0,0:51:08.08,0:51:10.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so i moved to where i am now called
Dialogue: 0,0:51:10.40,0:51:11.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,wellington
Dialogue: 0,0:51:11.28,0:51:13.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and i have no family here it's just me
Dialogue: 0,0:51:13.28,0:51:15.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and my son and so i moved here not
Dialogue: 0,0:51:15.36,0:51:16.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,knowing many people
Dialogue: 0,0:51:16.96,0:51:20.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,um making friends at the studio i was at
Dialogue: 0,0:51:20.16,0:51:22.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and so you know i i am quite brave in
Dialogue: 0,0:51:22.48,0:51:24.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that regard and i've sort of
Dialogue: 0,0:51:24.16,0:51:26.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know come up with this this attitude
Dialogue: 0,0:51:26.56,0:51:27.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and this
Dialogue: 0,0:51:27.52,0:51:30.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this way of life where you just need to
Dialogue: 0,0:51:30.08,0:51:31.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you need to do the thing
Dialogue: 0,0:51:31.28,0:51:33.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know for me it's a matter of
Dialogue: 0,0:51:33.12,0:51:35.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,securing a good life for my son and for
Dialogue: 0,0:51:35.52,0:51:36.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,myself
Dialogue: 0,0:51:36.24,0:51:37.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you know doing something i'm
Dialogue: 0,0:51:37.76,0:51:39.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,passionate about and
Dialogue: 0,0:51:39.44,0:51:40.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there's nothing that could really get in
Dialogue: 0,0:51:40.96,0:51:43.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,my way to to achieve that so it really
Dialogue: 0,0:51:43.04,0:51:45.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,depends on like how badly you
Dialogue: 0,0:51:45.28,0:51:46.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you want something how badly you're
Dialogue: 0,0:51:46.80,0:51:48.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,envisioning it
Dialogue: 0,0:51:48.88,0:51:51.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so self-help books when i first started
Dialogue: 0,0:51:51.04,0:51:51.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,listening to them
Dialogue: 0,0:51:51.92,0:51:54.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that and uh their inner voice for me was
Dialogue: 0,0:51:54.56,0:51:54.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like
Dialogue: 0,0:51:54.96,0:51:57.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,uh these people are strangers you know
Dialogue: 0,0:51:57.20,0:51:58.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they're telling you
Dialogue: 0,0:51:58.08,0:51:59.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what to do because you're not doing it
Dialogue: 0,0:51:59.84,0:52:01.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,right you know
Dialogue: 0,0:52:01.12,0:52:03.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and so like that's it that's a natural
Dialogue: 0,0:52:03.12,0:52:05.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,response to have but you do get past
Dialogue: 0,0:52:05.36,0:52:07.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that and then you become more like open
Dialogue: 0,0:52:07.44,0:52:08.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to
Dialogue: 0,0:52:08.08,0:52:11.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,others perspectives experiences and it
Dialogue: 0,0:52:11.36,0:52:13.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,makes you just a better like
Dialogue: 0,0:52:13.28,0:52:16.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all-around person and so that's really
Dialogue: 0,0:52:16.80,0:52:17.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,why i
Dialogue: 0,0:52:17.44,0:52:21.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,do enjoy listening to them yeah i think
Dialogue: 0,0:52:21.04,0:52:22.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,everybody should at least like
Dialogue: 0,0:52:22.80,0:52:24.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,surround themselves with something
Dialogue: 0,0:52:24.72,0:52:26.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,self-help-ish whether it's motivational
Dialogue: 0,0:52:26.72,0:52:29.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,videos or inspiration or audiobooks
Dialogue: 0,0:52:29.12,0:52:30.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because i also kind of like that quote
Dialogue: 0,0:52:30.96,0:52:32.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where who you surround yourself is who
Dialogue: 0,0:52:32.56,0:52:33.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you will be
Dialogue: 0,0:52:33.52,0:52:34.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so if like let's say you're in a bad
Dialogue: 0,0:52:34.80,0:52:36.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,environment if you put on the headphones
Dialogue: 0,0:52:36.96,0:52:38.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and put on positive stuff you're gonna
Dialogue: 0,0:52:38.56,0:52:39.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,feel better you're gonna
Dialogue: 0,0:52:39.68,0:52:41.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you're gonna feel like in in fact you
Dialogue: 0,0:52:41.68,0:52:42.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,might even feel like those are your
Dialogue: 0,0:52:42.56,0:52:43.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,friends so you'll be like i wanna
Dialogue: 0,0:52:43.68,0:52:45.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,impress them i wanna be like them i
Dialogue: 0,0:52:45.28,0:52:46.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,don't want to let them down
Dialogue: 0,0:52:46.16,0:52:48.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so you start to work on yourself start
Dialogue: 0,0:52:48.08,0:52:50.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to take care of yourself better start to
Dialogue: 0,0:52:50.00,0:52:52.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,mentally think positive thoughts it's
Dialogue: 0,0:52:52.24,0:52:53.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's crazy what your environment can do
Dialogue: 0,0:52:53.68,0:52:54.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you can put you in a negative place or a
Dialogue: 0,0:52:54.88,0:52:56.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,positive place so try to move yourself
Dialogue: 0,0:52:56.40,0:53:00.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,forward into a positive place exactly
Dialogue: 0,0:53:00.00,0:53:02.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so when you learn you're learning unity
Dialogue: 0,0:53:02.32,0:53:03.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,right now what is the process like for
Dialogue: 0,0:53:03.68,0:53:04.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you learning unity are you
Dialogue: 0,0:53:04.88,0:53:06.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just like watching a video day you
Dialogue: 0,0:53:06.64,0:53:08.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,spending like tons of hours
Dialogue: 0,0:53:08.16,0:53:11.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how do you effectively learn unity um
Dialogue: 0,0:53:11.44,0:53:14.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as of this year i haven't learned too
Dialogue: 0,0:53:14.00,0:53:16.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,much i've been working on the studio
Dialogue: 0,0:53:16.40,0:53:19.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,since uh the 11th of january so
Dialogue: 0,0:53:19.52,0:53:20.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i've already been full time for a little
Dialogue: 0,0:53:20.96,0:53:23.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,bit this year but for me
Dialogue: 0,0:53:23.12,0:53:25.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,um i started my process uh yeah just
Dialogue: 0,0:53:25.76,0:53:27.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,downloading it going through the
Dialogue: 0,0:53:27.28,0:53:29.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,tutorials unity is really great because
Dialogue: 0,0:53:29.60,0:53:31.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you've got these uh different tutorials
Dialogue: 0,0:53:31.68,0:53:32.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,suited for
Dialogue: 0,0:53:32.72,0:53:34.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how you want to use unity you know what
Dialogue: 0,0:53:34.56,0:53:36.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,kind of game do you want to make
Dialogue: 0,0:53:36.96,0:53:39.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and so they've got a platformer tutorial
Dialogue: 0,0:53:39.20,0:53:41.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that was really helpful to me so i've
Dialogue: 0,0:53:41.12,0:53:42.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,gone through that a few
Dialogue: 0,0:53:42.00,0:53:45.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,times and i do i'm a big person for
Dialogue: 0,0:53:45.52,0:53:47.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,doing something more than once you know
Dialogue: 0,0:53:47.12,0:53:49.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if you really want to retain
Dialogue: 0,0:53:49.04,0:53:51.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,um what you're learning you need to do
Dialogue: 0,0:53:51.12,0:53:52.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it more than once you
Dialogue: 0,0:53:52.32,0:53:53.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,need to do it multiple times so i'm
Dialogue: 0,0:53:53.68,0:53:55.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,doing that and also
Dialogue: 0,0:53:55.68,0:53:59.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know the brekkies videos um i'm also
Dialogue: 0,0:53:59.60,0:54:02.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,learning from other youtube people and
Dialogue: 0,0:54:02.32,0:54:04.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the game dev scene as well
Dialogue: 0,0:54:04.88,0:54:07.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,um i really just yeah surround myself
Dialogue: 0,0:54:07.20,0:54:08.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with these different people different
Dialogue: 0,0:54:08.72,0:54:10.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,mediums of
Dialogue: 0,0:54:10.32,0:54:13.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,uh ways to learn you know things that i
Dialogue: 0,0:54:13.44,0:54:15.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i need i feel that i need to learn
Dialogue: 0,0:54:15.84,0:54:17.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,um so i'm really just trying to support
Dialogue: 0,0:54:17.68,0:54:19.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,myself in that manner but
Dialogue: 0,0:54:19.04,0:54:20.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know unity is going to take some
Dialogue: 0,0:54:20.40,0:54:24.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,time um i you know in my job role as a
Dialogue: 0,0:54:24.32,0:54:26.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,studio director and owner i'm not going
Dialogue: 0,0:54:26.32,0:54:28.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to be inside unity a lot but i do feel
Dialogue: 0,0:54:28.56,0:54:29.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's important to have you know
Dialogue: 0,0:54:29.92,0:54:32.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the a decent understanding of the engine
Dialogue: 0,0:54:32.64,0:54:33.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that you are
Dialogue: 0,0:54:33.28,0:54:36.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,using um because if you don't then then
Dialogue: 0,0:54:36.40,0:54:38.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what are you doing yeah exactly right
Dialogue: 0,0:54:38.88,0:54:40.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know
Dialogue: 0,0:54:40.24,0:54:41.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's literally so i'm not going full
Dialogue: 0,0:54:41.68,0:54:44.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,head but i am learning enough yeah
Dialogue: 0,0:54:44.56,0:54:45.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,yeah there's no self-help thing
Dialogue: 0,0:54:45.60,0:54:47.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,everywhere it's just like even if you're
Dialogue: 0,0:54:47.20,0:54:48.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not going to
Dialogue: 0,0:54:48.16,0:54:50.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i don't know how it was like leadership
Dialogue: 0,0:54:50.40,0:54:52.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's like if you're going to be a leader
Dialogue: 0,0:54:52.40,0:54:53.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of somebody at least have an
Dialogue: 0,0:54:53.84,0:54:55.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,understanding of what they're doing so
Dialogue: 0,0:54:55.60,0:54:56.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that way you can understand that
Dialogue: 0,0:54:56.96,0:54:58.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the progress they're at like if somebody
Dialogue: 0,0:54:58.32,0:54:59.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,says hey i need to like do this thing
Dialogue: 0,0:54:59.92,0:55:00.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you're like
Dialogue: 0,0:55:00.48,0:55:01.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i understand it's going to take you
Dialogue: 0,0:55:01.52,0:55:03.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,probably six hours instead of being like
Dialogue: 0,0:55:03.52,0:55:05.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,why don't you have it done or like get
Dialogue: 0,0:55:05.04,0:55:05.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's like no
Dialogue: 0,0:55:05.68,0:55:07.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you have an understanding so you can
Dialogue: 0,0:55:07.12,0:55:09.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,better handle and lead your team
Dialogue: 0,0:55:09.12,0:55:11.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,towards you know build a better culture
Dialogue: 0,0:55:11.12,0:55:12.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because of that so yeah
Dialogue: 0,0:55:12.80,0:55:16.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i agree yep exactly definitely
Dialogue: 0,0:55:16.08,0:55:18.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so if anybody wanted to volunteer for
Dialogue: 0,0:55:18.96,0:55:20.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,let's say like to help you
Dialogue: 0,0:55:20.08,0:55:22.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,out what what is the process like that
Dialogue: 0,0:55:22.32,0:55:24.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are you doing anything like that
Dialogue: 0,0:55:24.08,0:55:25.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or you're just keeping it closed until
Dialogue: 0,0:55:25.68,0:55:28.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you have all your investors
Dialogue: 0,0:55:28.40,0:55:31.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,um yeah for me it's you know i've got
Dialogue: 0,0:55:31.20,0:55:32.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,some friends that are interested in
Dialogue: 0,0:55:32.56,0:55:35.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,coming on board i've got one that wants
Dialogue: 0,0:55:35.28,0:55:35.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to
Dialogue: 0,0:55:35.68,0:55:37.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,possibly be on the board of directors
Dialogue: 0,0:55:37.92,0:55:38.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and he
Dialogue: 0,0:55:38.88,0:55:41.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is he loves video games plays them but
Dialogue: 0,0:55:41.04,0:55:42.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he's more of like you know the business
Dialogue: 0,0:55:42.80,0:55:43.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,east side
Dialogue: 0,0:55:43.44,0:55:45.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,type of thing so i've had support from
Dialogue: 0,0:55:45.84,0:55:46.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,friends like that
Dialogue: 0,0:55:46.72,0:55:48.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,also other friends in the industry that
Dialogue: 0,0:55:48.64,0:55:51.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are just you know an ear for me to
Dialogue: 0,0:55:51.28,0:55:55.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to talk to and to bounce ideas off and
Dialogue: 0,0:55:55.36,0:55:57.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's it's really important to have that
Dialogue: 0,0:55:57.04,0:55:58.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sort of support system whether they're
Dialogue: 0,0:55:58.56,0:56:00.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,going to be a co-founder or not you know
Dialogue: 0,0:56:00.32,0:56:01.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you need to talk to people
Dialogue: 0,0:56:01.76,0:56:04.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and and tell them what your plans are
Dialogue: 0,0:56:04.16,0:56:06.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and if necessary you know get them to
Dialogue: 0,0:56:06.40,0:56:07.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sign an nda
Dialogue: 0,0:56:07.44,0:56:09.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if you're telling secrets or something
Dialogue: 0,0:56:09.36,0:56:11.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,oh yeah definitely be careful there
Dialogue: 0,0:56:11.04,0:56:14.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,yeah so those are those are really
Dialogue: 0,0:56:14.32,0:56:15.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,important um
Dialogue: 0,0:56:15.60,0:56:17.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but yeah for me at the moment is just
Dialogue: 0,0:56:17.36,0:56:18.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know hopefully
Dialogue: 0,0:56:18.72,0:56:21.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,uh getting into their incubation program
Dialogue: 0,0:56:21.44,0:56:23.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i'm doing the prerequisites right now
Dialogue: 0,0:56:23.44,0:56:26.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so i can um so what they what they are
Dialogue: 0,0:56:26.88,0:56:28.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they're called creative hq
Dialogue: 0,0:56:28.80,0:56:30.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and uh here in wellington and they're a
Dialogue: 0,0:56:30.64,0:56:32.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,council funded
Dialogue: 0,0:56:32.96,0:56:35.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,startup sort of supporting program and
Dialogue: 0,0:56:35.60,0:56:36.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so
Dialogue: 0,0:56:36.24,0:56:39.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if i get into there with my business
Dialogue: 0,0:56:39.20,0:56:40.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then they can
Dialogue: 0,0:56:40.32,0:56:43.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,help me find more funding um and they'll
Dialogue: 0,0:56:43.44,0:56:46.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,obviously like coach me on um making
Dialogue: 0,0:56:46.24,0:56:49.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sure my business is gonna succeed and
Dialogue: 0,0:56:49.28,0:56:51.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know strategies and all that sort of
Dialogue: 0,0:56:51.36,0:56:53.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,thing that can really help me so
Dialogue: 0,0:56:53.44,0:56:56.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,yeah finding those avenues where you
Dialogue: 0,0:56:56.00,0:56:58.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,know you're going to benefit from
Dialogue: 0,0:56:58.32,0:57:01.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,um is extremely helpful and finding
Dialogue: 0,0:57:01.76,0:57:04.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,funding is not easy so just just try and
Dialogue: 0,0:57:04.88,0:57:07.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,try and stick at it yeah i like that
Dialogue: 0,0:57:07.68,0:57:09.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,advice about the funding
Dialogue: 0,0:57:09.60,0:57:11.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,now are you ever going to plan on doing
Dialogue: 0,0:57:11.04,0:57:12.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like a chromatic
Dialogue: 0,0:57:12.72,0:57:15.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,pie discord or do you already have one i
Dialogue: 0,0:57:15.92,0:57:18.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i do have one but i haven't made it
Dialogue: 0,0:57:18.08,0:57:18.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,public yet
Dialogue: 0,0:57:18.96,0:57:20.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,uh i haven't finished all the channels
Dialogue: 0,0:57:20.88,0:57:22.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but yes i will be
Dialogue: 0,0:57:22.08,0:57:24.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,uh launching a chromatic pie discord
Dialogue: 0,0:57:24.48,0:57:25.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there is also a
Dialogue: 0,0:57:25.60,0:57:28.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,reddit page as well so make sure i've
Dialogue: 0,0:57:28.64,0:57:31.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,got all the different social medias done
Dialogue: 0,0:57:31.36,0:57:34.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ready and again i yeah well kind of i
Dialogue: 0,0:57:34.48,0:57:35.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,haven't
Dialogue: 0,0:57:35.12,0:57:37.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,made the reddit public either i'm sort
Dialogue: 0,0:57:37.04,0:57:39.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of like okay once i make it public i'm
Dialogue: 0,0:57:39.04,0:57:41.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to have to spend time maintaining it
Dialogue: 0,0:57:41.28,0:57:42.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,yeah true yeah
Dialogue: 0,0:57:42.16,0:57:43.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's going to be yeah
Dialogue: 0,0:57:43.54,0:57:45.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Laughter]
Dialogue: 0,0:57:45.76,0:57:47.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,awesome okay and then so there's two
Dialogue: 0,0:57:47.92,0:57:48.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,more things
Dialogue: 0,0:57:48.96,0:57:50.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,one is what advice would you give
Dialogue: 0,0:57:50.40,0:57:52.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,anybody short advice because we already
Dialogue: 0,0:57:52.08,0:57:53.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,talked about mostly but for anybody just
Dialogue: 0,0:57:53.60,0:57:55.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,saying hey i want to start my studio i
Dialogue: 0,0:57:55.36,0:57:56.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,don't know where to go
Dialogue: 0,0:57:56.64,0:57:57.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what's like something short you would
Dialogue: 0,0:57:57.84,0:57:59.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,tell them
Dialogue: 0,0:57:59.68,0:58:02.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,um i would say you know um
Dialogue: 0,0:58:02.80,0:58:06.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the way i did it was you know is it
Dialogue: 0,0:58:06.08,0:58:07.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,really what you want to do
Dialogue: 0,0:58:07.52,0:58:10.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know you once you become an
Dialogue: 0,0:58:10.32,0:58:12.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,entrepreneur you sort of have to
Dialogue: 0,0:58:12.96,0:58:16.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,uh dedicate time and effort and money
Dialogue: 0,0:58:16.32,0:58:19.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,even into you know
Dialogue: 0,0:58:19.36,0:58:21.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,starting up the business that you want
Dialogue: 0,0:58:21.12,0:58:22.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to start up so
Dialogue: 0,0:58:22.40,0:58:23.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you can't just start it and then walk
Dialogue: 0,0:58:23.84,0:58:25.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,away you know you have to be dedicated
Dialogue: 0,0:58:25.68,0:58:27.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and motivated to do it so
Dialogue: 0,0:58:27.68,0:58:30.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for me i had that uh from there you know
Dialogue: 0,0:58:30.64,0:58:31.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,finding a name
Dialogue: 0,0:58:31.60,0:58:34.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for your business that stands out and
Dialogue: 0,0:58:34.56,0:58:35.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from the others you know that
Dialogue: 0,0:58:35.84,0:58:36.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,encompasses
Dialogue: 0,0:58:36.80,0:58:39.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,uh your vision which i found was like a
Dialogue: 0,0:58:39.76,0:58:41.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,really neat amalgamation
Dialogue: 0,0:58:41.76,0:58:44.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,uh to make uh you know you can name your
Dialogue: 0,0:58:44.40,0:58:45.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,business
Dialogue: 0,0:58:45.04,0:58:49.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like for example like uh jbl you know
Dialogue: 0,0:58:49.20,0:58:51.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what does that mean i don't know what
Dialogue: 0,0:58:51.20,0:58:53.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that means um but you know like there's
Dialogue: 0,0:58:53.60,0:58:56.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know juice box lovers
Dialogue: 0,0:58:56.64,0:58:58.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,yeah yeah well like you know so there's
Dialogue: 0,0:58:58.72,0:59:00.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,these names that can be catchy but they
Dialogue: 0,0:59:00.64,0:59:01.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have no meaning
Dialogue: 0,0:59:01.52,0:59:02.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so you know try and get a little bit
Dialogue: 0,0:59:02.64,0:59:04.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,crafty with it um
Dialogue: 0,0:59:04.56,0:59:07.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which i found has really like benefited
Dialogue: 0,0:59:07.20,0:59:08.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,me in chromatic pie because people it
Dialogue: 0,0:59:08.96,0:59:10.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,can really relate uh
Dialogue: 0,0:59:10.56,0:59:13.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to what it is um and then you know just
Dialogue: 0,0:59:13.44,0:59:14.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,yeah pushing forward and just being
Dialogue: 0,0:59:14.96,0:59:16.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,motivated helping yourself
Dialogue: 0,0:59:16.88,0:59:19.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,um don't be afraid to listen to other
Dialogue: 0,0:59:19.60,0:59:21.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,people's opinions or perspectives you
Dialogue: 0,0:59:21.68,0:59:24.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,know you need to bring those on board
Dialogue: 0,0:59:24.64,0:59:27.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i'm actually going to be conducting some
Dialogue: 0,0:59:27.68,0:59:28.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,interviews next week
Dialogue: 0,0:59:28.88,0:59:32.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with accessibility and representation
Dialogue: 0,0:59:32.56,0:59:35.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so i'm interviewing people with uh um
Dialogue: 0,0:59:35.68,0:59:39.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who are partially blind who have various
Dialogue: 0,0:59:39.28,0:59:41.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,disabilities and then also interviewing
Dialogue: 0,0:59:41.60,0:59:44.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,people in their lgbtq
Dialogue: 0,0:59:44.40,0:59:47.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,people of color and women and so
Dialogue: 0,0:59:47.76,0:59:49.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what i've done is i've it's called an
Dialogue: 0,0:59:49.92,0:59:51.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,empathy interview
Dialogue: 0,0:59:51.60,0:59:53.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so you've got these cards that you lay
Dialogue: 0,0:59:53.44,0:59:55.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,out and you name there
Dialogue: 0,0:59:55.52,0:59:58.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for example i've named five facts and
Dialogue: 0,0:59:58.40,0:59:59.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,assumptions
Dialogue: 0,0:59:59.28,1:00:02.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that lay out the problems the solutions
Dialogue: 0,1:00:02.56,1:00:03.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the outcome
Dialogue: 0,1:00:03.36,1:00:06.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the value of the product or what
Dialogue: 0,1:00:06.80,1:00:07.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you're trying to
Dialogue: 0,1:00:07.92,1:00:11.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to achieve and so i'll be with what i've
Dialogue: 0,1:00:11.36,1:00:13.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,written down i'll be talking to these
Dialogue: 0,1:00:13.20,1:00:14.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,people with accessibility
Dialogue: 0,1:00:14.96,1:00:17.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and and representation to really like
Dialogue: 0,1:00:17.36,1:00:18.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,nail down
Dialogue: 0,1:00:18.48,1:00:21.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,um if i have a really good idea on where
Dialogue: 0,1:00:21.12,1:00:22.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i want to go and how to make
Dialogue: 0,1:00:22.72,1:00:24.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the industry a a better place and how to
Dialogue: 0,1:00:24.96,1:00:26.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,make games more accessible
Dialogue: 0,1:00:26.64,1:00:28.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so you know just exhaust all these
Dialogue: 0,1:00:28.40,1:00:30.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,different avenues that could really like
Dialogue: 0,1:00:30.40,1:00:32.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,launch yourself into being
Dialogue: 0,1:00:32.24,1:00:35.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,successful wow that's a lot and that's
Dialogue: 0,1:00:35.92,1:00:36.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,awesome
Dialogue: 0,1:00:36.88,1:00:39.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sorry yeah no no it's all good there is
Dialogue: 0,1:00:39.52,1:00:42.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a lie
Dialogue: 0,1:00:42.64,1:00:44.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then lastly i like to do a little
Dialogue: 0,1:00:44.48,1:00:45.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,challenge at the end because over the
Dialogue: 0,1:00:45.92,1:00:46.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,game
Dialogue: 0,1:00:46.56,1:00:48.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,courses have a challenge for the each
Dialogue: 0,1:00:48.32,1:00:50.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,lecture so what would your challenge be
Dialogue: 0,1:00:50.64,1:00:52.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for all listeners listening could be
Dialogue: 0,1:00:52.08,1:00:53.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,related to
Dialogue: 0,1:00:53.52,1:00:55.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,being a studio it could be related to
Dialogue: 0,1:00:55.04,1:00:56.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,producing really it's whatever you want
Dialogue: 0,1:00:56.24,1:00:57.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like would like it to be and you could
Dialogue: 0,1:00:57.84,1:00:58.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,take
Dialogue: 0,1:00:58.16,1:00:59.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as much time you need to think of a
Dialogue: 0,1:00:59.76,1:01:01.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,challenge
Dialogue: 0,1:01:01.84,1:01:06.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a challenge um oof i would say
Dialogue: 0,1:01:06.32,1:01:09.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,oh can i mention audiobooks again
Dialogue: 0,1:01:09.52,1:01:12.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,yeah you can yeah that's perfect go read
Dialogue: 0,1:01:12.24,1:01:13.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,an audio book take
Dialogue: 0,1:01:13.28,1:01:17.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like you know aim for one audio book
Dialogue: 0,1:01:17.04,1:01:19.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a month you know to start off with aim
Dialogue: 0,1:01:19.04,1:01:20.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for that um
Dialogue: 0,1:01:20.16,1:01:23.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the area that you want to learn from
Dialogue: 0,1:01:23.04,1:01:23.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,um
Dialogue: 0,1:01:23.68,1:01:24.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know i'll say that with like
Dialogue: 0,1:01:24.80,1:01:26.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,anything you know whether it's a youtube
Dialogue: 0,1:01:26.88,1:01:27.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,video
Dialogue: 0,1:01:27.76,1:01:30.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and watch you know maybe one youtube
Dialogue: 0,1:01:30.00,1:01:31.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,video a week from
Dialogue: 0,1:01:31.36,1:01:34.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,uh something you want to learn about um
Dialogue: 0,1:01:34.64,1:01:38.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,honestly i'm just so like seated and
Dialogue: 0,1:01:38.24,1:01:41.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just doing it yourself you can do it you
Dialogue: 0,1:01:41.12,1:01:41.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,know when
Dialogue: 0,1:01:41.68,1:01:44.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i was smaller or even when my when my
Dialogue: 0,1:01:44.80,1:01:46.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,mum was my age you know
Dialogue: 0,1:01:46.64,1:01:48.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,our parents they didn't have what we
Dialogue: 0,1:01:48.08,1:01:50.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have now you know they don't they didn't
Dialogue: 0,1:01:50.16,1:01:52.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have the internet with youtube and
Dialogue: 0,1:01:52.08,1:01:55.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all these different forums and advice
Dialogue: 0,1:01:55.36,1:01:58.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you know everything we're so lucky
Dialogue: 0,1:01:58.24,1:02:00.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to grow up in this technological era so
Dialogue: 0,1:02:00.96,1:02:03.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,definitely make the the most of it um
Dialogue: 0,1:02:03.76,1:02:04.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and learn
Dialogue: 0,1:02:04.72,1:02:08.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where you can um i would say
Dialogue: 0,1:02:08.00,1:02:10.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i don't know if i can name just just one
Dialogue: 0,1:02:10.00,1:02:11.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,challenge because
Dialogue: 0,1:02:11.68,1:02:16.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's all very like well-rounded um
Dialogue: 0,1:02:16.08,1:02:18.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so i i can't i'm sorry that's a little i
Dialogue: 0,1:02:18.56,1:02:21.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,think that's all i'm going to say
Dialogue: 0,1:02:21.52,1:02:23.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's all good that works picking on your
Dialogue: 0,1:02:23.60,1:02:24.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,book you read it
Dialogue: 0,1:02:24.56,1:02:26.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it's it's a challenge for you
Dialogue: 0,1:02:26.00,1:02:28.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,listeners don't let anyone down
Dialogue: 0,1:02:28.24,1:02:30.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the books are good self-help's not evil
Dialogue: 0,1:02:30.00,1:02:31.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i promise
Dialogue: 0,1:02:31.36,1:02:33.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we read anything it could be game design
Dialogue: 0,1:02:33.36,1:02:34.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,programming health
Dialogue: 0,1:02:34.80,1:02:37.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,uh healthy books nutrition anything pick
Dialogue: 0,1:02:37.52,1:02:38.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a book
Dialogue: 0,1:02:38.40,1:02:41.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,expand your mind grow i like it but yeah
Dialogue: 0,1:02:41.04,1:02:42.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so thank you for coming on this has been
Dialogue: 0,1:02:42.40,1:02:43.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so much fun
Dialogue: 0,1:02:43.20,1:02:45.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,learning a lot love the chromatic pie i
Dialogue: 0,1:02:45.52,1:02:47.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,love the pie i need to make that one day
Dialogue: 0,1:02:47.12,1:02:47.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i'm gonna
Dialogue: 0,1:02:47.84,1:02:50.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i love vegans i need that'd be so cute
Dialogue: 0,1:02:50.24,1:02:52.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,yeah i'll tell you how to make it yeah
Dialogue: 0,1:02:52.48,1:02:55.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,yes awesome yeah and then so usually at
Dialogue: 0,1:02:55.44,1:02:56.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the end we'll just
Dialogue: 0,1:02:56.16,1:02:57.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,hand the mic to you when doing last
Dialogue: 0,1:02:57.52,1:02:59.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,minute shout outs you know last minute
Dialogue: 0,1:02:59.04,1:03:00.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,quotes whatever you feel
Dialogue: 0,1:03:00.56,1:03:04.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and thank you for coming on thank you
Dialogue: 0,1:03:04.00,1:03:05.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,well yeah thank you so much for having
Dialogue: 0,1:03:05.60,1:03:07.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,me it's been a pleasure you know i'm i'm
Dialogue: 0,1:03:07.36,1:03:08.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,really honored that you reached out to
Dialogue: 0,1:03:08.96,1:03:09.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,me
Dialogue: 0,1:03:09.36,1:03:12.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and uh i'm just so happy to be here and
Dialogue: 0,1:03:12.24,1:03:12.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for
Dialogue: 0,1:03:12.56,1:03:15.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,everyone listening um i believe in you
Dialogue: 0,1:03:15.36,1:03:17.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just do the thing you know don't hold
Dialogue: 0,1:03:17.04,1:03:18.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,yourself back you
Dialogue: 0,1:03:18.00,1:03:19.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you don't want to hold yourself back you
Dialogue: 0,1:03:19.68,1:03:23.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,know be be a go-getter but be a smart
Dialogue: 0,1:03:23.28,1:03:25.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,go-getter you know don't don't do it
Dialogue: 0,1:03:25.76,1:03:28.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,overbought
Dialogue: 0,1:03:28.00,1:03:30.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,um but you can reach me on uh at
Dialogue: 0,1:03:30.24,1:03:31.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,loripops on twitter
Dialogue: 0,1:03:31.84,1:03:35.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you can reach me on um you can go to
Dialogue: 0,1:03:35.24,1:03:36.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,quaranticpi.com
Dialogue: 0,1:03:36.40,1:03:38.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,um there is a blog about me there and
Dialogue: 0,1:03:38.56,1:03:40.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with a little bit more background
Dialogue: 0,1:03:40.08,1:03:41.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,information too
Dialogue: 0,1:03:41.28,1:03:43.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and of course on the studio and where we
Dialogue: 0,1:03:43.20,1:03:44.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,want to go
Dialogue: 0,1:03:44.40,1:03:47.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and take care during this covered
Dialogue: 0,1:03:47.12,1:03:47.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,pandemic
Dialogue: 0,1:03:47.84,1:03:50.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,well that's it thanks for listening you
Dialogue: 0,1:03:50.00,1:03:51.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,can find all courses at game device tv
Dialogue: 0,1:03:51.76,1:03:53.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or in a show notes at a discounted price
Dialogue: 0,1:03:53.76,1:03:54.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,get started with the game development
Dialogue: 0,1:03:54.88,1:03:59.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,journey today
Dialogue: 0,1:04:01.84,1:04:03.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you