0:00:06.060,0:00:10.334 [Carrie Mae Weems: "Roaming"] 0:00:19.721,0:00:21.502 I think that architecture, 0:00:21.502,0:00:23.581 in its essence-- 0:00:24.351,0:00:27.271 much of the fabric of it-- 0:00:27.271,0:00:29.702 is very much about power. 0:00:32.692,0:00:35.026 If we think about a place like Rome-- 0:00:35.026,0:00:38.554 where I did a residency a few years ago-- 0:00:38.931,0:00:41.331 what one is made to feel 0:00:41.561,0:00:43.398 is the power of the state 0:00:43.398,0:00:47.615 in relationship to the lower subject. 0:00:48.336,0:00:49.702 To the lower subject-- 0:00:49.702,0:00:51.270 to the general populace. 0:00:51.270,0:00:54.333 You are always aware that you are, sort of, 0:00:54.333,0:00:59.395 a minion in relationship to this enormous edifice-- 0:00:59.395,0:01:01.004 the edifice of power. 0:01:02.702,0:01:05.670 What is this relationship of power to you? 0:01:06.028,0:01:08.264 And what is your relationship to power? 0:01:08.264,0:01:10.341 And how do you contest it? 0:01:11.596,0:01:13.964 And how do you try to make 0:01:15.074,0:01:17.502 someone aware of it? 0:01:17.902,0:01:21.072 So, you crawl towards the church. 0:01:21.072,0:01:22.456 [LAUGHS] 0:01:26.902,0:01:28.102 And so I thought, then, 0:01:28.102,0:01:31.396 perhaps if I could use my own skin 0:01:31.396,0:01:33.902 in a sort of series of performances. 0:01:33.902,0:01:36.596 That I could use my own body as a way 0:01:36.596,0:01:39.964 of leading the viewer into those spaces-- 0:01:39.964,0:01:41.964 highly aware-- 0:01:41.964,0:01:44.457 and challenging those spaces. 0:01:44.457,0:01:45.304 Challenging them, 0:01:45.304,0:01:48.365 and marking them for really what they are. 0:01:48.502,0:01:50.996 That they are, of course, monumental, 0:01:50.996,0:01:52.056 and they're beautiful, 0:01:52.056,0:01:55.133 and the edifices are extraordinary. 0:01:55.533,0:01:59.994 But, I'm not confused about what they're supposed to mean, 0:01:59.994,0:02:02.302 and what they're supposed to do. 0:02:05.597,0:02:07.670 Maybe most people are sort of aware of them, too. 0:02:07.670,0:02:09.425 They just sort of accept-- 0:02:09.425,0:02:11.301 they submit to them. 0:02:11.533,0:02:14.103 And I'm, of course, more interested in challenging them, 0:02:14.103,0:02:17.896 even when I think that they're sort of sublime in their way.