When I was a college student in Tokyo, my study was German Philosophy and also Marxist Economics,

And also, Hegel, Kant... I was trying to catch up with the Western philosophy.

Socialism and Communism, now its been taken as a kind of a failed theory or failed thinking,

But, back in that time, that was one of the dream theories of how people can live together peacefully, And nicely.

And then, when I moved to California, everybody was talking about the Zen and Buddhism,

So, I spent like three years in California studying Oriental Philosophy by myself to catch up, actually.

[Laughs] So it goes the other way around.

1974, There was the kind of flower children movment, so I was really into that.

So I didn't pay that much attention to the serious art.

Only after I moved to New York, 1974, I started realizing how important and interesting art can be.

Do you see this? It can be spottable.

I'm very interested in early 20th Century, 19th Century movement of Modernism.

So, it's like an idealism, in general. And soon Realism and Dada.

That's also trying to search the expansion of the human ability to see things in a different way.

So, they are all like very ambitious adventurism in a way.