WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:02.023 Dr. Smith: Committee, thank you for the opportunity 00:00:02.023 --> 00:00:05.761 to testify today on the important topic of improving college affordability. 00:00:05.761 --> 00:00:08.002 As you heard, my name is Zakiya Smith and I work on finance 00:00:08.002 --> 00:00:10.561 and federal policy issues at Lumina Foundation, 00:00:10.561 --> 00:00:12.728 the nation's largest foundation focused specifically 00:00:12.728 --> 00:00:16.995 on increasing students' access to and success in postsecondary education. 00:00:16.995 --> 00:00:19.185 As someone whose grandmother attended college 00:00:19.185 --> 00:00:22.851 as a nontraditional student, in the '50s in South Carolina, 00:00:22.851 --> 00:00:27.276 before there were integrated schools or even a Higher Education Act to consider, 00:00:27.276 --> 00:00:30.725 I know both the transformative power of higher education 00:00:30.725 --> 00:00:34.285 and the pains that come from lack of equity within the system, 00:00:34.285 --> 00:00:37.018 for students of color and for low income students. 00:00:37.018 --> 00:00:39.664 And I know from working with students as a college counselor 00:00:39.664 --> 00:00:41.693 in a federally funded gear up program 00:00:41.693 --> 00:00:44.095 that when talking to students directly, 00:00:44.095 --> 00:00:46.327 their concerns about college are clear. 00:00:46.327 --> 00:00:50.761 They think it's important but they just don't know how they're going to pay for it. 00:00:50.761 --> 00:00:54.528 And, we've talked about this issue at the national level for decades. 00:00:54.528 --> 00:00:56.968 We've tried to create measures of transparency, 00:00:56.968 --> 00:00:59.310 which I've very vocally supported, 00:00:59.310 --> 00:01:02.060 with hopes that better information could create market pressure 00:01:02.060 --> 00:01:04.961 and direct students to more affordable options. 00:01:04.961 --> 00:01:09.075 Unfortunately, those efforts alone are not enough. 00:01:09.075 --> 00:01:11.336 Today's students have responsibilities and commitments 00:01:11.336 --> 00:01:13.959 that extend far beyond the classroom. 00:01:13.959 --> 00:01:16.843 Students of color in particular are more likely to be balancing 00:01:16.843 --> 00:01:20.451 work and the responsibilities of parenting with going to college, 00:01:20.451 --> 00:01:23.803 as over 40% of Black and Native American students 00:01:23.803 --> 00:01:25.777 are also parents. 00:01:25.777 --> 00:01:28.425 And contrary to popular imagination, 00:01:28.425 --> 00:01:32.012 students today actually have to work far more than past generations did 00:01:32.012 --> 00:01:33.843 in order to pay for college. 00:01:33.843 --> 00:01:37.659 In 1971, students could cover tuition at public colleges 00:01:37.659 --> 00:01:40.948 by working about 10 hours a week throughout the year. 00:01:40.948 --> 00:01:44.642 Students today would have to work about a 60 hour work week 00:01:44.642 --> 00:01:46.812 in order to cover the full cost of attendance 00:01:46.812 --> 00:01:48.993 at a public college in state. 00:01:48.993 --> 00:01:52.257 So, these affordability concerns aren't just in their heads. 00:01:52.257 --> 00:01:56.309 The challenge of paying for college today is greater than it was in the past. 00:01:56.309 --> 00:01:58.293 Some might argue that expenses 00:01:58.293 --> 00:02:00.792 like rent and food aren't really costs of college 00:02:00.792 --> 00:02:04.258 but general costs of living that every adult must face. 00:02:04.258 --> 00:02:06.868 But very few people would argue with the notion 00:02:06.868 --> 00:02:10.285 that the traditional student, going to college straight from high school, 00:02:10.285 --> 00:02:12.514 living on campus, deserves to be able 00:02:12.514 --> 00:02:15.542 to use their financial aid to pay for room and board. 00:02:15.542 --> 00:02:17.708 Take that same student off campus 00:02:17.708 --> 00:02:19.684 and now they've got to find an apartment. 00:02:19.684 --> 00:02:21.291 Room because rent 00:02:21.291 --> 00:02:24.756 and food, whether purchased on or off campus, is the board. 00:02:24.756 --> 00:02:27.708 Ensuring these non-tuition needs are covered in some way, 00:02:27.708 --> 00:02:30.040 which could include childcare for student parents 00:02:30.040 --> 00:02:32.108 or transportation to and from campus, 00:02:32.108 --> 00:02:34.108 are integral to student success. 00:02:34.108 --> 00:02:37.319 If basic needs aren't met, students are less likely to do well in school, 00:02:37.319 --> 00:02:39.624 further impeding completion. 00:02:39.624 --> 00:02:42.824 And as we know, as we think about how to address this concern, 00:02:42.824 --> 00:02:44.759 we must recognize that affordability 00:02:44.759 --> 00:02:46.857 means different things to different people. 00:02:46.857 --> 00:02:48.574 What's a bargain to one person 00:02:48.574 --> 00:02:51.207 may feel like an unattainable luxury to another. 00:02:51.207 --> 00:02:53.225 For example, a $10,000 degree 00:02:53.225 --> 00:02:56.240 could sound great to a family making $150,000 00:02:56.240 --> 00:02:58.006 yet unimaginable for someone 00:02:58.006 --> 00:03:00.957 making only $20,000 a year, near the poverty line. 00:03:00.957 --> 00:03:03.690 That's why we can't focus only on the overarching price 00:03:03.690 --> 00:03:05.282 or even the average net price, 00:03:05.282 --> 00:03:07.439 because it alone doesn't capture what's reasonable 00:03:07.439 --> 00:03:09.224 for families at different income levels. 00:03:09.224 --> 00:03:11.385 We've got to start to frame affordability in terms 00:03:11.385 --> 00:03:13.840 that are tailored to individual and family needs 00:03:13.840 --> 00:03:17.040 yet are transparent enough for most people to understand. 00:03:17.040 --> 00:03:19.228 In this vein, Lumina has developed a concept 00:03:19.228 --> 00:03:22.398 called The Affordability Benchmark, in consultation with experts 00:03:22.398 --> 00:03:24.640 from inside and outside of higher education. 00:03:24.640 --> 00:03:26.979 The benchmark is based on some key principles, 00:03:26.979 --> 00:03:30.272 that those with the capacity to save should be encouraged to do so 00:03:30.272 --> 00:03:33.807 with clear guidelines that can be broken down into monthly amounts, 00:03:33.807 --> 00:03:35.923 that students without the capacity to save 00:03:35.923 --> 00:03:37.823 shouldn't be expected to, 00:03:37.823 --> 00:03:40.822 and that no student should have to work more to pay for college 00:03:40.822 --> 00:03:43.389 um-- so, have to which, 00:03:43.389 --> 00:03:46.146 no student should have to work so much to pay for college 00:03:46.146 --> 00:03:49.240 that it impacts their ability to be successful in school. 00:03:49.240 --> 00:03:53.338 Two interconnected recommendations could make this a reality. 00:03:53.338 --> 00:03:57.422 First, a federal-state partnership for affordability, quality, and completion. 00:03:57.422 --> 00:04:00.855 A benchmark approach or any other type of affordability guarantee 00:04:00.855 --> 00:04:03.352 would require a new type of partnership 00:04:03.352 --> 00:04:05.622 between the federal and state governments, 00:04:05.622 --> 00:04:09.219 in which colleges commit to lower prices and better outcomes 00:04:09.219 --> 00:04:11.872 for students over time in order to receive funding. 00:04:11.872 --> 00:04:15.022 States should be encouraged to invest in post secondary education 00:04:15.022 --> 00:04:17.822 in order to better leverage the federal spend. 00:04:17.822 --> 00:04:20.818 And because affordability can't really be conceptually, uh, 00:04:20.818 --> 00:04:22.485 separated from value, 00:04:22.485 --> 00:04:24.881 it would require being more vigilant about quality, 00:04:24.881 --> 00:04:26.746 both to root out fraudulent practices 00:04:26.746 --> 00:04:29.039 and to ensure credentials are meaningful. 00:04:29.039 --> 00:04:31.981 Second, we must strengthen and preserve the Pell grant. 00:04:31.981 --> 00:04:34.173 Pell is the foundation of federal student aid, 00:04:34.173 --> 00:04:37.517 the bedrock on which the federal commitment to students is based. 00:04:37.517 --> 00:04:41.688 Unfortunately, the grant itself has not kept up with the rising price of education 00:04:41.688 --> 00:04:44.054 I urge the committee to consider ways to strengthen Pell 00:04:44.054 --> 00:04:46.489 so that it remains available for future generations 00:04:46.489 --> 00:04:48.190 and to encourage implementation 00:04:48.190 --> 00:04:50.563 of early awareness and information campaigns, 00:04:50.563 --> 00:04:52.920 to ensure would be students even know it exists. 00:04:52.920 --> 00:04:55.788 I'd be happy to answer uh, any questions about these ideas 00:04:55.788 --> 00:04:58.050 or share in additional detail. Thank you. 00:04:58.050 --> 00:04:59.201 Committee: Thank you, Dr. Smith.