1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,023 Dr. Smith: Committee, thank you for the opportunity 2 00:00:02,023 --> 00:00:05,761 to testify today on the important topic of improving college affordability. 3 00:00:05,761 --> 00:00:08,002 As you heard, my name is Zakiya Smith and I work on finance 4 00:00:08,002 --> 00:00:10,561 and federal policy issues at Lumina Foundation, 5 00:00:10,561 --> 00:00:12,728 the nation's largest foundation focused specifically 6 00:00:12,728 --> 00:00:16,995 on increasing students' access to and success in postsecondary education. 7 00:00:16,995 --> 00:00:19,185 As someone whose grandmother attended college 8 00:00:19,185 --> 00:00:22,851 as a nontraditional student, in the '50s in South Carolina, 9 00:00:22,851 --> 00:00:27,276 before there were integrated schools or even a Higher Education Act to consider, 10 00:00:27,276 --> 00:00:30,725 I know both the transformative power of higher education 11 00:00:30,725 --> 00:00:34,285 and the pains that come from lack of equity within the system, 12 00:00:34,285 --> 00:00:37,018 for students of color and for low income students. 13 00:00:37,018 --> 00:00:39,664 And I know from working with students as a college counselor 14 00:00:39,664 --> 00:00:41,693 in a federally funded gear up program 15 00:00:41,693 --> 00:00:44,095 that when talking to students directly, 16 00:00:44,095 --> 00:00:46,327 their concerns about college are clear. 17 00:00:46,327 --> 00:00:50,761 They think it's important but they just don't know how they're going to pay for it. 18 00:00:50,761 --> 00:00:54,528 And, we've talked about this issue at the national level for decades. 19 00:00:54,528 --> 00:00:56,968 We've tried to create measures of transparency, 20 00:00:56,968 --> 00:00:59,310 which I've very vocally supported, 21 00:00:59,310 --> 00:01:02,060 with hopes that better information could create market pressure 22 00:01:02,060 --> 00:01:04,961 and direct students to more affordable options. 23 00:01:04,961 --> 00:01:09,075 Unfortunately, those efforts alone are not enough. 24 00:01:09,075 --> 00:01:11,336 Today's students have responsibilities and commitments 25 00:01:11,336 --> 00:01:13,959 that extend far beyond the classroom. 26 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:16,843 Students of color in particular are more likely to be balancing 27 00:01:16,843 --> 00:01:20,451 work and the responsibilities of parenting with going to college, 28 00:01:20,451 --> 00:01:23,803 as over 40% of Black and Native American students 29 00:01:23,803 --> 00:01:25,777 are also parents. 30 00:01:25,777 --> 00:01:28,425 And contrary to popular imagination, 31 00:01:28,425 --> 00:01:32,012 students today actually have to work far more than past generations did 32 00:01:32,012 --> 00:01:33,843 in order to pay for college. 33 00:01:33,843 --> 00:01:37,659 In 1971, students could cover tuition at public colleges 34 00:01:37,659 --> 00:01:40,948 by working about 10 hours a week throughout the year. 35 00:01:40,948 --> 00:01:44,642 Students today would have to work about a 60 hour work week 36 00:01:44,642 --> 00:01:46,812 in order to cover the full cost of attendance 37 00:01:46,812 --> 00:01:48,993 at a public college in state. 38 00:01:48,993 --> 00:01:52,257 So, these affordability concerns aren't just in their heads. 39 00:01:52,257 --> 00:01:56,309 The challenge of paying for college today is greater than it was in the past. 40 00:01:56,309 --> 00:01:58,293 Some might argue that expenses 41 00:01:58,293 --> 00:02:00,792 like rent and food aren't really costs of college 42 00:02:00,792 --> 00:02:04,258 but general costs of living that every adult must face. 43 00:02:04,258 --> 00:02:06,868 But very few people would argue with the notion 44 00:02:06,868 --> 00:02:10,285 that the traditional student, going to college straight from high school, 45 00:02:10,285 --> 00:02:12,514 living on campus, deserves to be able 46 00:02:12,514 --> 00:02:15,542 to use their financial aid to pay for room and board. 47 00:02:15,542 --> 00:02:17,708 Take that same student off campus 48 00:02:17,708 --> 00:02:19,684 and now they've got to find an apartment. 49 00:02:19,684 --> 00:02:21,291 Room because rent 50 00:02:21,291 --> 00:02:24,756 and food, whether purchased on or off campus, is the board. 51 00:02:24,756 --> 00:02:27,708 Ensuring these non-tuition needs are covered in some way, 52 00:02:27,708 --> 00:02:30,040 which could include childcare for student parents 53 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:32,108 or transportation to and from campus, 54 00:02:32,108 --> 00:02:34,108 are integral to student success. 55 00:02:34,108 --> 00:02:37,319 If basic needs aren't met, students are less likely to do well in school, 56 00:02:37,319 --> 00:02:39,624 further impeding completion. 57 00:02:39,624 --> 00:02:42,824 And as we know, as we think about how to address this concern, 58 00:02:42,824 --> 00:02:44,759 we must recognize that affordability 59 00:02:44,759 --> 00:02:46,857 means different things to different people. 60 00:02:46,857 --> 00:02:48,574 What's a bargain to one person 61 00:02:48,574 --> 00:02:51,207 may feel like an unattainable luxury to another. 62 00:02:51,207 --> 00:02:53,225 For example, a $10,000 degree 63 00:02:53,225 --> 00:02:56,240 could sound great to a family making $150,000 64 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:58,006 yet unimaginable for someone 65 00:02:58,006 --> 00:03:00,957 making only $20,000 a year, near the poverty line. 66 00:03:00,957 --> 00:03:03,690 That's why we can't focus only on the overarching price 67 00:03:03,690 --> 00:03:05,282 or even the average net price, 68 00:03:05,282 --> 00:03:07,439 because it alone doesn't capture what's reasonable 69 00:03:07,439 --> 00:03:09,224 for families at different income levels. 70 00:03:09,224 --> 00:03:11,385 We've got to start to frame affordability in terms 71 00:03:11,385 --> 00:03:13,840 that are tailored to individual and family needs 72 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:17,040 yet are transparent enough for most people to understand. 73 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:19,228 In this vein, Lumina has developed a concept 74 00:03:19,228 --> 00:03:22,398 called The Affordability Benchmark, in consultation with experts 75 00:03:22,398 --> 00:03:24,640 from inside and outside of higher education. 76 00:03:24,640 --> 00:03:26,979 The benchmark is based on some key principles, 77 00:03:26,979 --> 00:03:30,272 that those with the capacity to save should be encouraged to do so 78 00:03:30,272 --> 00:03:33,807 with clear guidelines that can be broken down into monthly amounts, 79 00:03:33,807 --> 00:03:35,923 that students without the capacity to save 80 00:03:35,923 --> 00:03:37,823 shouldn't be expected to, 81 00:03:37,823 --> 00:03:40,822 and that no student should have to work more to pay for college 82 00:03:40,822 --> 00:03:43,389 um-- so, have to which, 83 00:03:43,389 --> 00:03:46,146 no student should have to work so much to pay for college 84 00:03:46,146 --> 00:03:49,240 that it impacts their ability to be successful in school. 85 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:53,338 Two interconnected recommendations could make this a reality. 86 00:03:53,338 --> 00:03:57,422 First, a federal-state partnership for affordability, quality, and completion. 87 00:03:57,422 --> 00:04:00,855 A benchmark approach or any other type of affordability guarantee 88 00:04:00,855 --> 00:04:03,352 would require a new type of partnership 89 00:04:03,352 --> 00:04:05,622 between the federal and state governments, 90 00:04:05,622 --> 00:04:09,219 in which colleges commit to lower prices and better outcomes 91 00:04:09,219 --> 00:04:11,872 for students over time in order to receive funding. 92 00:04:11,872 --> 00:04:15,022 States should be encouraged to invest in post secondary education 93 00:04:15,022 --> 00:04:17,822 in order to better leverage the federal spend. 94 00:04:17,822 --> 00:04:20,818 And because affordability can't really be conceptually, uh, 95 00:04:20,818 --> 00:04:22,485 separated from value, 96 00:04:22,485 --> 00:04:24,881 it would require being more vigilant about quality, 97 00:04:24,881 --> 00:04:26,746 both to root out fraudulent practices 98 00:04:26,746 --> 00:04:29,039 and to ensure credentials are meaningful. 99 00:04:29,039 --> 00:04:31,981 Second, we must strengthen and preserve the Pell grant. 100 00:04:31,981 --> 00:04:34,173 Pell is the foundation of federal student aid, 101 00:04:34,173 --> 00:04:37,517 the bedrock on which the federal commitment to students is based. 102 00:04:37,517 --> 00:04:41,688 Unfortunately, the grant itself has not kept up with the rising price of education 103 00:04:41,688 --> 00:04:44,054 I urge the committee to consider ways to strengthen Pell 104 00:04:44,054 --> 00:04:46,489 so that it remains available for future generations 105 00:04:46,489 --> 00:04:48,190 and to encourage implementation 106 00:04:48,190 --> 00:04:50,563 of early awareness and information campaigns, 107 00:04:50,563 --> 00:04:52,920 to ensure would be students even know it exists. 108 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:55,788 I'd be happy to answer uh, any questions about these ideas 109 00:04:55,788 --> 00:04:58,050 or share in additional detail. Thank you. 110 00:04:58,050 --> 00:04:59,201 Committee: Thank you, Dr. Smith.