WEBVTT 00:00:00.232 --> 00:00:02.815 (gentle music) 00:00:04.560 --> 00:00:07.790 (radio buzzing) 00:00:07.790 --> 00:00:09.720 - I like the idea of a radio. 00:00:09.720 --> 00:00:12.410 'Cause I grew up in an age of the radio 00:00:12.410 --> 00:00:14.560 where I was when I was a child. 00:00:14.560 --> 00:00:17.143 (gentle music) 00:00:18.752 --> 00:00:20.033 It allows one to imagine 00:00:20.033 --> 00:00:23.083 as opposed to giving them everything or almost everything. 00:00:29.040 --> 00:00:32.040 (people chattering) 00:00:43.880 --> 00:00:46.770 Sometimes, it's always good to just take a risk 00:00:46.770 --> 00:00:48.713 and just draw a line. 00:00:50.750 --> 00:00:54.120 From there, the image builds itself. 00:00:54.120 --> 00:00:58.103 So this is like the ignition, allowing the process to guide. 00:00:59.200 --> 00:01:04.200 I find it to be an approach that sets me on the right foot. 00:01:04.770 --> 00:01:06.523 It allows me to drift free. 00:01:11.060 --> 00:01:12.970 - Nicholas is an interesting person, you know? 00:01:12.970 --> 00:01:14.970 So he doesn't give you the instruction 00:01:14.970 --> 00:01:16.860 like you have to do the work and finish. 00:01:16.860 --> 00:01:19.360 He engages with you also while you're working, you know? 00:01:19.360 --> 00:01:21.380 So it's better to work, work, then do other things, 00:01:21.380 --> 00:01:22.280 then come back to work. 00:01:22.280 --> 00:01:23.563 Then, when he's around, then he tells you, 00:01:23.563 --> 00:01:25.730 hey, you can go this way, you know? 00:01:25.730 --> 00:01:28.760 - I tell the people who are assisting me to do the work 00:01:28.760 --> 00:01:31.173 to always just have fun with it. 00:01:32.690 --> 00:01:34.140 Don't be too serious about it, 00:01:34.140 --> 00:01:37.213 'cause when you try to be too serious, you won't do it. 00:01:38.111 --> 00:01:39.411 It's a waste of your time. 00:01:42.290 --> 00:01:45.890 (soft ambient music) 00:01:45.890 --> 00:01:48.530 I make these lines, the lines are easy to make, 00:01:48.530 --> 00:01:51.340 but then how you get to force those lines 00:01:51.340 --> 00:01:54.760 to assume some new role, 00:01:54.760 --> 00:01:56.435 you do it almost child-like. 00:01:56.435 --> 00:01:58.190 It brings something to the fold. 00:01:58.190 --> 00:01:59.899 You get to learn something from it. 00:02:11.280 --> 00:02:13.360 Occasionally I make a sketch, especially for sculptures, 00:02:13.360 --> 00:02:16.060 I make a sketch, so that's what I have to do. 00:02:16.060 --> 00:02:19.810 But most of the time, I always go into the idea 00:02:19.810 --> 00:02:22.300 of working with a word, with a theme, 00:02:22.300 --> 00:02:27.100 'cause I believe a word, especially nouns and even verbs, 00:02:27.100 --> 00:02:30.920 they relate to objects and what objects do. 00:02:30.920 --> 00:02:32.523 This is a heel of a shoe last. 00:02:34.150 --> 00:02:38.110 For this painting, it's gonna be named Fak'unyawo, 00:02:38.110 --> 00:02:40.730 as in insert your foot, 00:02:40.730 --> 00:02:43.270 like testing the water sort of thing, 00:02:43.270 --> 00:02:45.700 or stepping up from that. 00:02:45.700 --> 00:02:47.311 That's Xhosa. 00:02:47.311 --> 00:02:51.260 It's faka, which means insert, plus foot. 00:02:51.260 --> 00:02:53.250 So it's faka unyawo, 00:02:53.250 --> 00:02:55.250 but should make it one word, Fak'unyawo. 00:02:59.743 --> 00:03:01.272 (bright gentle music) 00:03:01.272 --> 00:03:02.841 It's important to go astray. 00:03:02.841 --> 00:03:05.870 'Cause if you are in a foreign city and you get lost, 00:03:05.870 --> 00:03:08.510 then you'll discover some alleyways and some avenues 00:03:08.510 --> 00:03:10.010 that you will not necessarily discover 00:03:10.010 --> 00:03:11.910 had you been placed on the right path. 00:03:19.370 --> 00:03:21.980 The silent wind orchestra. 00:03:21.980 --> 00:03:24.340 Initially, they musical instruments. 00:03:24.340 --> 00:03:26.870 I thought to have them in one of the canvases. 00:03:26.870 --> 00:03:29.580 And that idea grew that, actually, 00:03:29.580 --> 00:03:31.970 they could stand by themselves. 00:03:31.970 --> 00:03:33.573 They are wind instruments. 00:03:35.620 --> 00:03:38.480 If we have these elongated brass and copper tubes 00:03:38.480 --> 00:03:41.540 that are connected to the trumpets, the bugles, 00:03:41.540 --> 00:03:44.200 they will still be music instruments. 00:03:44.200 --> 00:03:46.700 And we had to somehow shift 00:03:46.700 --> 00:03:48.730 that notion of music instruments. 00:03:48.730 --> 00:03:51.460 And also perhaps, would be used as a metaphor. 00:03:51.460 --> 00:03:53.730 If you think about blowing your own horn, 00:03:53.730 --> 00:03:55.534 you're too ambitious. 00:03:55.534 --> 00:03:58.117 (dreamy music) 00:04:12.400 --> 00:04:15.070 Listen to what's happening around you. 00:04:15.070 --> 00:04:17.140 You become a little antenna 00:04:17.140 --> 00:04:18.930 that is allowing everything to flow. 00:04:18.930 --> 00:04:22.963 Some things pass and you grab the ones that are important. 00:04:22.963 --> 00:04:26.270 (singing in foreign language) 00:04:26.270 --> 00:04:29.740 Keeping all your doors open, that's what's important. 00:04:30.779 --> 00:04:33.279 (dog barking) 00:04:42.724 --> 00:04:45.641 (insects chirring)