WEBVTT 00:00:00.343 --> 00:00:02.446 ♪ (music) ♪ 00:00:02.446 --> 00:00:05.185 (Peter) These days, you hear music all the time. 00:00:05.185 --> 00:00:09.631 It wakes us up, motivates our workouts, 00:00:09.631 --> 00:00:11.746 keeps us company on our commutes. 00:00:11.746 --> 00:00:13.832 It doesn't matter what kind of music it is, 00:00:13.832 --> 00:00:17.464 music itself has the ability to affect our moods and our bodies 00:00:17.464 --> 00:00:19.414 in all sorts of ways. 00:00:19.414 --> 00:00:22.366 We nod our heads, we sway, dance. 00:00:22.366 --> 00:00:23.730 Music can give us chills, 00:00:23.730 --> 00:00:25.146 even make us cry. 00:00:25.146 --> 00:00:28.997 Music activates every area of the brain that we have so far mapped. 00:00:28.997 --> 00:00:31.047 In fact, there's no area of the brain we know about 00:00:31.047 --> 00:00:33.114 that music doesn't touch in some way. 00:00:33.114 --> 00:00:34.542 But what's behind all that? 00:00:34.542 --> 00:00:37.158 What exactly does music do to us? 00:00:37.158 --> 00:00:39.454 To find out, I went to a whole series of tests 00:00:39.454 --> 00:00:42.822 designed to measure my responses to music. 00:00:42.822 --> 00:00:45.470 I met some kids whose brains may actually be changing, 00:00:45.470 --> 00:00:48.753 thanks to those hours of learning, practice, and performing. 00:00:48.753 --> 00:00:51.087 I spoke with a therapist who used music 00:00:51.087 --> 00:00:53.388 to help former congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords 00:00:53.388 --> 00:00:55.070 learn to speak again, 00:00:55.070 --> 00:00:56.256 and got a glimpse inside the brain 00:00:56.256 --> 00:00:59.255 of a two-time winning artist while he played... 00:00:59.255 --> 00:01:00.936 ( ) 00:01:00.936 --> 00:01:04.639 ...all to find out how music affects us. 00:01:04.639 --> 00:01:06.971 ♪ (music) ♪ 00:01:07.769 --> 00:01:10.171 So what's going on when we listen to music? 00:01:10.171 --> 00:01:13.371 We visited the USC Brain and Creativity Institute, 00:01:13.371 --> 00:01:15.987 where I had my head examined, literally, 00:01:15.987 --> 00:01:17.152 to try to figure it out. 00:01:17.152 --> 00:01:19.287 I'm going to go into this [FMRI] machine, 00:01:19.287 --> 00:01:21.202 a tiny tube will surround me. 00:01:21.202 --> 00:01:23.536 We'll get a baseline reading of my brain, 00:01:23.536 --> 00:01:25.272 and then I'm going to listen to some music. 00:01:25.272 --> 00:01:27.573 We're going to see how my brain responds. 00:01:27.573 --> 00:01:28.653 Just close your eyes, relax, 00:01:28.653 --> 00:01:30.805 and try and get into the music as best you can, okay? 00:01:30.805 --> 00:01:32.389 ♪ (music) ♪ 00:01:32.389 --> 00:01:33.372 And here's what we saw. 00:01:33.372 --> 00:01:34.821 These are scans of my brain. 00:01:34.821 --> 00:01:37.470 The areas in red are where my activity is above average; 00:01:37.470 --> 00:01:38.737 in blue, below average. 00:01:38.737 --> 00:01:42.036 As you can see, there is red activity all over my brain, 00:01:42.036 --> 00:01:44.056 not just in one specific area. 00:01:44.056 --> 00:01:45.270 Twenty-five years ago, 00:01:45.270 --> 00:01:48.306 the idea was that language is on the left side of the brain 00:01:48.306 --> 00:01:50.336 and music is in the right side of the brain. 00:01:50.336 --> 00:01:53.320 But now that we've got better quality tools, 00:01:53.320 --> 00:01:57.803 higher resolution neuro-imaging and better experimental methods, 00:01:57.803 --> 00:02:00.520 we've discovered that's not at all right. 00:02:00.520 --> 00:02:02.820 How does that play out in different regions of the brain? 00:02:02.820 --> 00:02:05.138 When music enters and then gets shuttled off 00:02:05.138 --> 00:02:06.356 to different parts of the brain, 00:02:06.356 --> 00:02:10.592 it stops at specialized processing units in auditory cortex, 00:02:10.592 --> 00:02:12.893 they track loudness and pitch and rhythm 00:02:12.893 --> 00:02:15.159 and [tambour] and things like that. 00:02:15.159 --> 00:02:19.158 There's visual cortex activation when you're reading music as a musician 00:02:19.158 --> 00:02:20.595 or watching music, 00:02:20.595 --> 00:02:22.642 motor cortex when you're tapping your feet, 00:02:22.642 --> 00:02:24.991 snapping your fingers, clapping you hands; 00:02:24.991 --> 00:02:27.609 and cerebellum which mediates the emotional responses; 00:02:27.609 --> 00:02:30.125 the memory and the hippocampus, 00:02:30.125 --> 00:02:31.958 hearing a familiar passage, 00:02:31.958 --> 00:02:35.027 finding it somewhere in your memory banks. 00:02:35.027 --> 00:02:37.408 Music is going on in both halves of your brain, 00:02:37.408 --> 00:02:38.392 the left and the right, 00:02:38.392 --> 00:02:39.360 the front and the back, 00:02:39.360 --> 00:02:41.426 the inside and the outside. 00:02:41.426 --> 00:02:44.475 ♪ (music) ♪ 00:02:45.092 --> 00:02:47.377 (Peter) So what about a musician's brain? 00:02:47.377 --> 00:02:50.341 To play a piece of music engages so many things: 00:02:50.341 --> 00:02:52.174 motor systems, timing systems, 00:02:52.174 --> 00:02:55.410 memory systems, hearing systems. 00:02:55.410 --> 00:02:58.424 There's all sorts of brain activity happening. 00:02:58.424 --> 00:03:02.108 It's a very robust thing to play music. 00:03:02.108 --> 00:03:03.727 ♪ (music) ♪ 00:03:04.875 --> 00:03:06.059 I'm Alex Jacob Robertson. 00:03:06.059 --> 00:03:07.541 I'm Nathan Glenn Robertson. 00:03:07.541 --> 00:03:09.444 We asked these 11-year old musicians 00:03:09.444 --> 00:03:11.794 to tell us what's going through their minds when they play. 00:03:11.794 --> 00:03:14.643 Some of the most important things are I think good postures, 00:03:14.643 --> 00:03:16.409 getting the note right, 00:03:16.409 --> 00:03:19.208 legato, staccato. 00:03:19.208 --> 00:03:21.158 (violin) 00:03:21.742 --> 00:03:25.991 For the violin, you need to hold your hand at the right place, 00:03:25.991 --> 00:03:28.308 and you need to be in tune, 00:03:28.308 --> 00:03:31.825 and then you also have to have not only the right intonation 00:03:31.825 --> 00:03:33.344 but the right sound, 00:03:33.344 --> 00:03:35.875 and then you also need to have great vibrato. 00:03:35.875 --> 00:03:37.091 There's lot of things to think about. 00:03:37.091 --> 00:03:38.459 (violin) 00:03:38.459 --> 00:03:39.177 (Peter) Back at USC, 00:03:39.177 --> 00:03:42.325 researchers have been studying kids who play music over the past five years 00:03:42.325 --> 00:03:44.612 to see how it affects their development. 00:03:44.612 --> 00:03:48.341 The multi-tasking areas of their brains understandable lit up, 00:03:48.341 --> 00:03:50.227 but they've seen other results too. 00:03:50.227 --> 00:03:51.944 Music training over the course of five years 00:03:51.944 --> 00:03:55.675 has had benefits in cognitive skills and decision making, 00:03:55.675 --> 00:03:58.412 also had some benefits in social behavior, 00:03:58.412 --> 00:04:01.775 and we've also seen changes in the associated brain structures. 00:04:01.775 --> 00:04:03.092 (Peter) Did you hear that? 00:04:03.092 --> 00:04:04.826 Changes in brain structures! 00:04:04.826 --> 00:04:07.044 They found that the brains of children who have studied music 00:04:07.044 --> 00:04:09.958 have stronger connections between the left and right hemispheres, 00:04:09.958 --> 00:04:13.443 and that can make them better, more creative problem solvers. 00:04:13.443 --> 00:04:15.058 And then there's emotion. 00:04:15.058 --> 00:04:17.308 (emotional music) 00:04:18.942 --> 00:04:20.445 When you hear a piece like this, 00:04:20.445 --> 00:04:27.709 it's easy to understand why emotions play such a big part in music. 00:04:27.709 --> 00:04:32.175 This song by Camille Saint-Saëns is known as the music for the dying swan in ballet. 00:04:34.108 --> 00:04:38.425 While it might move ballerinas to dance, it inspires different reactions in others. 00:04:38.425 --> 00:04:40.391 ( ) 00:04:43.825 --> 00:04:46.691 Some people get goosebumps, chills. 00:04:46.691 --> 00:04:48.362 That weird tingly sensation that you get 00:04:48.362 --> 00:04:51.191 when a great piece of music just hits you in the right way? 00:04:51.191 --> 00:04:54.608 It's called frisson, and not everyone gets it, 00:04:54.608 --> 00:04:56.343 but it turns out I do. 00:04:56.343 --> 00:04:58.925 Now we're going to have you listen to some pieces of music. 00:04:58.925 --> 00:04:59.508 Okay. 00:04:59.508 --> 00:05:01.394 When you experience a chill, if you do, 00:05:01.394 --> 00:05:02.760 I want you to just press this space bar 00:05:02.760 --> 00:05:03.709 so we have an indication 00:05:03.709 --> 00:05:07.359 of when those peak moments of enjoyment are happening. 00:05:07.359 --> 00:05:07.992 Okay. 00:05:07.992 --> 00:05:10.092 Matt Sachs, a PhD candidate at USC, 00:05:10.092 --> 00:05:13.227 wired me up to measure my physiological response. 00:05:13.227 --> 00:05:15.874 So when I'm feeling that emotional connection 00:05:15.874 --> 00:05:18.092 that has a physical manifestation, 00:05:18.092 --> 00:05:20.528 we'll see what my body is actually doing? 00:05:20.528 --> 00:05:21.413 Exactly. 00:05:21.413 --> 00:05:24.559 (dramatic music) 00:05:30.409 --> 00:05:31.760 Alright, how was that? 00:05:31.760 --> 00:05:33.277 That was-- that had a lot of them. 00:05:33.277 --> 00:05:35.011 We got them all. 00:05:35.011 --> 00:05:35.977 Now full disclosure: 00:05:35.977 --> 00:05:37.776 Back in the day, I played the cello, 00:05:37.776 --> 00:05:41.042 which might have something to do with why that particular song affected me. 00:05:41.042 --> 00:05:42.011 Nice hair! 00:05:42.011 --> 00:05:44.595 But it turns out the brain is at work here too. 00:05:44.595 --> 00:05:46.876 We processed the difference between this pathway 00:05:46.876 --> 00:05:50.145 that connects the auditory regions is on the side of the brain here, 00:05:50.145 --> 00:05:51.526 to the emotional regions, 00:05:51.526 --> 00:05:54.577 and we showed that the tract actually that connects those two regions 00:05:54.577 --> 00:05:55.596 is stronger, 00:05:55.596 --> 00:05:58.642 there's more fibers in that region in the people who get chills. 00:05:58.642 --> 00:06:00.009 (Peter) Which means that some people's brains 00:06:00.009 --> 00:06:00.959 might have better communication 00:06:00.959 --> 00:06:03.395 between what they hear and how they feel. 00:06:03.395 --> 00:06:05.657 The music itself also plays a role in frisson. 00:06:05.657 --> 00:06:09.227 Sachs uses different songs in his lectures to see if students get it. 00:06:09.227 --> 00:06:10.625 I'll say raise your hand when you get a chill 00:06:10.625 --> 00:06:12.127 and I'll play a piece of music, a classical piece, 00:06:12.127 --> 00:06:13.829 and maybe half the people will get it. 00:06:13.829 --> 00:06:15.562 (Peter) Then he plays this.. 00:06:15.562 --> 00:06:18.893 ( ) 00:06:18.893 --> 00:06:20.776 Rolling Stone's Give me Shelter. 00:06:20.776 --> 00:06:22.645 Have you ever seen the movie 20 Feet from Stardom? 00:06:22.645 --> 00:06:23.915 The documentary about back up singers? 00:06:23.915 --> 00:06:24.646 Yeah. 00:06:24.646 --> 00:06:28.213 There's a part where they isolate the vocals from Give me Shelter. 00:06:28.213 --> 00:06:30.792 ♪ ( ) ♪ 00:06:36.009 --> 00:06:36.694 And I play that, 00:06:36.694 --> 00:06:38.577 and 90% of the people experience chills, 00:06:38.577 --> 00:06:40.244 sort of independent of where I go. 00:06:40.244 --> 00:06:43.027 I have to tell you, bringing that up made me think about it 00:06:43.027 --> 00:06:46.443 and I got that little kind of thing at the back of my neck. 00:06:46.443 --> 00:06:47.725 (Peter) But why would that happen? 00:06:47.725 --> 00:06:51.129 The high pitched notes that she hit almost sounds like a scream 00:06:51.129 --> 00:06:53.658 and it's very important ancestrally for us 00:06:53.658 --> 00:06:55.142 to be able to pay attention to a scream, 00:06:55.142 --> 00:06:56.596 figure out what's going on, 00:06:56.596 --> 00:06:59.026 and either run or fight, whatever we need to do. 00:06:59.026 --> 00:07:01.010 (Peter) So how come that manifests as pleasure? 00:07:01.010 --> 00:07:03.213 Well it's because our pre-frontal cortex, 00:07:03.213 --> 00:07:05.776 the more rational, thinking part of the brain kicks in. 00:07:05.776 --> 00:07:08.393 So you realize very quickly, 00:07:08.393 --> 00:07:11.110 after you have this really quick startle reflex, 00:07:11.110 --> 00:07:13.760 that there's nothing actually threatening about the piece of music, 00:07:13.760 --> 00:07:17.826 that you're sitting in a safe space with your headphones on, 00:07:17.826 --> 00:07:19.494 and it's in that reappraisal 00:07:19.494 --> 00:07:22.359 that we tend to think of the pleasure responses emerging. 00:07:22.359 --> 00:07:25.577 And whether you find listening to music so pleasurable you get chills 00:07:25.577 --> 00:07:28.262 or you absolutely despise a song, 00:07:28.262 --> 00:07:31.376 it can produce absolutely fascinating effects in the brain. 00:07:31.376 --> 00:07:33.359 According to [Levitan], music we enjoy 00:07:33.359 --> 00:07:35.946 triggers the brain's internal opioid system-- 00:07:35.946 --> 00:07:37.396 yes, opioid system. 00:07:37.396 --> 00:07:39.611 And just like the opioids that come in pill form 00:07:39.611 --> 00:07:42.363 these chemicals make you feel good and help relieve pain. 00:07:42.363 --> 00:07:45.134 And music you don't like? Well, that releases cortisol, 00:07:45.134 --> 00:07:46.627 the notorious stress hormone. 00:07:46.627 --> 00:07:49.563 But that's not even the half of what music can do in the brain. 00:07:49.563 --> 00:07:55.810 Can you turn on the lights? 00:07:55.810 --> 00:07:57.561 (Peter) When former Congresswomen Gabrielle Giffords 00:07:57.561 --> 00:07:59.197 was shot in 2011 00:07:59.197 --> 00:08:01.379 the left side of her brain was severely damaged, 00:08:01.379 --> 00:08:02.961 leaving her struggling to speak, 00:08:02.961 --> 00:08:04.763 a condition called aphasia. 00:08:04.763 --> 00:08:08.077 Gabby, are you frustrated? 00:08:08.077 --> 00:08:09.977 (Peter) But to get an idea 00:08:09.977 --> 00:08:12.865 of just how powerful music's effect on the brain can be, 00:08:12.865 --> 00:08:14.078 watch this video. 00:08:14.078 --> 00:08:15.227 You ready? 00:08:15.227 --> 00:08:20.661 (together) This little light of mine I'm gonna let it shine. 00:08:20.661 --> 00:08:22.610 (Peter) That word that she'd been struggling to say, "light," 00:08:22.610 --> 00:08:24.561 came easily in song. 00:08:24.561 --> 00:08:29.394 Why would she be able to sing a word when she's unable to say it? 00:08:29.394 --> 00:08:31.027 What we know about the brain 00:08:31.027 --> 00:08:35.378 is that the left hemisphere controls language, 00:08:35.378 --> 00:08:37.895 and there are many other parts of the brain 00:08:37.895 --> 00:08:41.210 that have music access. 00:08:41.210 --> 00:08:43.027 Music therapist Maegan Morrow's job 00:08:43.027 --> 00:08:46.912 is to help patients use those other pathways to regain language. 00:08:46.912 --> 00:08:49.711 Sometimes I compare it to being in traffic, 00:08:49.711 --> 00:08:51.294 and you can't move any further, 00:08:51.294 --> 00:08:54.431 but you might need to exit and take the feeder road 00:08:54.431 --> 00:08:56.910 to get you to your destination. 00:08:56.910 --> 00:09:00.744 So music is basically like that feeder road 00:09:00.744 --> 00:09:02.112 to the new destination. 00:09:02.112 --> 00:09:03.280 (Peter) Like a detour. 00:09:03.280 --> 00:09:06.861 So we know that music can help us relearn things like speech 00:09:06.861 --> 00:09:09.413 by accessing alternative pathways in the brain 00:09:09.413 --> 00:09:12.560 and that learning to play music can help strengthen brain connections. 00:09:12.560 --> 00:09:15.212 But what about making music? 00:09:15.212 --> 00:09:18.963 To make music is like-- 00:09:18.963 --> 00:09:20.627 it's the language of humanity. 00:09:20.627 --> 00:09:22.344 No matter where I go in the world, 00:09:22.344 --> 00:09:23.812 if I'm playing something, 00:09:23.812 --> 00:09:25.530 it doesn't matter if someone can't speak the language-- 00:09:25.530 --> 00:09:28.810 if they're into it, they're into it. 00:09:28.810 --> 00:09:32.380 (Peter) This is Xavier Dphrepaulezz, better known as Fantastic Negrito. 00:09:32.380 --> 00:09:36.061 We brought him to UCSF to meet Charles Limb, 00:09:36.061 --> 00:09:38.577 a neuroscientist who studies musical creativity. 00:09:38.577 --> 00:09:39.679 The Duffler's up next. 00:09:39.679 --> 00:09:42.045 (Peter) To understand how Fantastic Negrito's brain works 00:09:42.045 --> 00:09:43.146 when making music, 00:09:43.146 --> 00:09:46.714 Dr. Limb had him play on of his songs while going through the fMRI. 00:09:46.714 --> 00:09:52.111 (Fantastic Negrito singing) 00:09:52.111 --> 00:09:54.211 (Peter) So how did his brain respond? 00:09:54.211 --> 00:09:57.146 The areas that process sensory and motor skills, along with sounds, 00:09:57.146 --> 00:09:57.963 lit up. 00:09:57.963 --> 00:09:59.844 You can see them here in red and yellow. 00:09:59.844 --> 00:10:01.210 Makes sense, right? 00:10:01.210 --> 00:10:02.914 But here's the really interesting part. 00:10:02.914 --> 00:10:04.398 Limb asked him to improvise 00:10:04.398 --> 00:10:07.430 to see what happens when he's creating something totally original. 00:10:07.430 --> 00:10:10.711 (Fantastic Negrito singing) 00:10:18.612 --> 00:10:19.928 Now watch what happens to his brain? 00:10:19.928 --> 00:10:20.629 Stop! 00:10:20.629 --> 00:10:21.265 (laughter) 00:10:21.265 --> 00:10:22.415 Now watch what happens to his brain. 00:10:22.415 --> 00:10:23.881 The areas that were active before, 00:10:23.881 --> 00:10:25.615 the ones that deal with motor skills and sounds, 00:10:25.615 --> 00:10:27.065 are even more active. 00:10:27.065 --> 00:10:29.614 But see how there's way more blue in the front of his brain? 00:10:29.614 --> 00:10:31.065 That's the pre-frontal cortex, 00:10:31.065 --> 00:10:32.981 and it's associated with effortful planning 00:10:32.981 --> 00:10:34.746 and conscience self-monitoring, 00:10:34.746 --> 00:10:37.198 and it's blue because it's less active. 00:10:37.198 --> 00:10:38.445 We see that the pre-frontal cortex 00:10:38.445 --> 00:10:42.282 appears to be really shutting down in these moments of high creativity, 00:10:42.282 --> 00:10:46.479 kind of like letting of of these conscious self-censoring or self-monitoring areas 00:10:46.479 --> 00:10:50.711 that normally are there to help control our output. 00:10:50.711 --> 00:10:52.997 (Peter) And Limb says it's about more than just letting go. 00:10:52.997 --> 00:10:56.128 You view it from a perspective of survival. 00:10:56.128 --> 00:10:59.062 If human beings only could do memorized route responses, 00:10:59.062 --> 00:11:00.548 we'd be long gone. 00:11:00.548 --> 00:11:04.362 It is not just the thing that happens in clubs and in jazz bars, 00:11:04.362 --> 00:11:06.895 it's actually maybe the most fundamental form 00:11:06.895 --> 00:11:08.381 of what it means to be human, 00:11:08.381 --> 00:11:09.496 to come up with new ideas. 00:11:09.496 --> 00:11:12.161 (singing) 00:11:15.461 --> 00:11:18.464 (Peter) So music is so much more than notes on a page. 00:11:18.464 --> 00:11:21.429 It can change the way we think and speak and feel. 00:11:21.429 --> 00:11:24.696 But is there a limit to what science can tell us about music? 00:11:24.696 --> 00:11:26.997 Just when I discovered the answer to one thing, 00:11:26.997 --> 00:11:30.894 five new questions pop up that are more interesting than the first, 00:11:30.894 --> 00:11:33.412 and I've gained an appreciation 00:11:33.412 --> 00:11:39.278 for how complex the music-making and music-listening system is. 00:11:39.278 --> 00:11:41.294 It's not demystified for me at all. 00:11:41.294 --> 00:11:43.594 It's more mysterious than ever. 00:11:43.594 --> 00:11:45.695 (singing) 00:11:57.745 --> 00:11:59.962 (applause)