WEBVTT 00:00:07.580 --> 00:00:12.220 [Andrea Zittel: High Desert Test Sites] 00:00:24.760 --> 00:00:30.239 [REPORTER] For thirty years, Curtis Springer operated his Zzyzx Mineral Springs, 00:00:30.239 --> 00:00:34.399 selling health, religion, and the Springer specialty, 00:00:34.400 --> 00:00:36.440 Antediluvian herb tea. 00:00:36.450 --> 00:00:40.160 But then, the troubles with the government over who owned the land 00:00:40.180 --> 00:00:42.520 finally caught up with him in 1974, 00:00:42.520 --> 00:00:43.500 and he was evicted. 00:00:44.720 --> 00:00:45.900 [Boulevard of Dreams] 00:00:45.920 --> 00:00:49.340 [ROB FULTON] Oh, I never did explain Zzyzx, did I? 00:00:49.350 --> 00:00:53.940 Curtis invented it to be phonetically or alphabetically the last word-- 00:00:53.940 --> 00:00:55.040 nothing more than that. 00:00:55.040 --> 00:00:56.690 But then he incorporated that in his advertising, 00:00:56.690 --> 00:00:58.670 both in literature and on radio. 00:00:58.670 --> 00:00:59.730 He'd say things like, 00:00:59.730 --> 00:01:02.610 "Come to Zzyzx Mineral Springs, the last word in health." 00:01:09.920 --> 00:01:12.079 [ANCHORMAN] Well, according to the bureau of land management, 00:01:12.079 --> 00:01:14.729 legally, Hell has frozen over, 00:01:14.729 --> 00:01:16.840 and Springer will never get Zzyzx back. 00:01:17.800 --> 00:01:19.600 [CSU Desert Studies Center] 00:01:19.600 --> 00:01:22.340 [AURORA TANG] Zzyzx is currently this desert studies center, 00:01:22.340 --> 00:01:26.729 which is about three hours from both Joshua Tree and L.A. 00:01:26.729 --> 00:01:30.329 So, it's just far enough out to be a trip. 00:01:30.329 --> 00:01:33.819 One of the reasons to do High Desert Test Sites programming here 00:01:33.819 --> 00:01:37.319 was to continue to keep that sense of exploration 00:01:37.319 --> 00:01:40.019 and that feeling of discovery and learning. 00:01:40.020 --> 00:01:41.320 [Aurora Tang, Managing Director, High Desert Test Sites] 00:01:41.320 --> 00:01:44.120 And also, it keeps things interesting for both Andrea and I. 00:01:44.120 --> 00:01:46.480 [FULTON] We've salvaged some of the old resort signs and everything. 00:01:46.490 --> 00:01:48.829 I brought this out of mothballs today so you could see it. 00:01:48.829 --> 00:01:51.990 This would have been posted here at the building. 00:01:51.990 --> 00:01:57.240 To kind of underscore the religious underpinnings of his ministry here-- 00:01:57.240 --> 00:01:59.799 and his foundation and his mission here-- 00:01:59.799 --> 00:02:02.490 he developed the pool in the shape of a cross. 00:02:02.490 --> 00:02:05.009 And then, if you wanted to sun yourself on the slabs out here, 00:02:05.009 --> 00:02:07.130 these pipes sticking up would provide cool water 00:02:07.130 --> 00:02:09.630 to flood the surface and cool it down. 00:02:11.600 --> 00:02:14.080 [ANDREA ZITTEL] So, it's always a little hard to explain 00:02:14.080 --> 00:02:15.660 what High Desert Test Sites is, 00:02:15.660 --> 00:02:17.260 [Andrea Zittel, Co-Founder, High Desert Test Sites] 00:02:17.260 --> 00:02:22.540 because we're, sort of, deliberately not trying to make an institution. 00:02:22.550 --> 00:02:26.850 But it's a non-profit entity that... 00:02:29.160 --> 00:02:35.040 It's a support entity for work that sort of lives in the world at large. 00:02:36.760 --> 00:02:41.520 So this weekend, High Desert Test Sites is being curated by Aurora Tang. 00:02:41.530 --> 00:02:44.140 It's all about water in the sense that 00:02:44.140 --> 00:02:47.120 being in the desert is only possible because of water. 00:02:47.120 --> 00:02:48.900 And so water takes on a special... 00:02:48.900 --> 00:02:52.810 I mean, I would probably call it like a "life force". 00:02:52.810 --> 00:02:56.040 We have a mix of different artists that we work with, 00:02:56.040 --> 00:02:57.150 and some are local-- 00:02:57.150 --> 00:02:59.070 like, people that we discover out here 00:02:59.070 --> 00:03:01.310 who we think are like really amazing and inspirational, 00:03:01.310 --> 00:03:05.650 and we sort of want to bring more attention to them. 00:03:18.400 --> 00:03:22.180 [ALYSE EMDUR] The desert, I think, is a place of escaping civilization. 00:03:23.180 --> 00:03:27.920 My film really looks at this attempt to escape the aging bodies of retirees 00:03:27.920 --> 00:03:28.960 [Alyse Emdur, Artist] 00:03:28.960 --> 00:03:32.780 in the healing mineral spring in Florida. 00:03:33.400 --> 00:03:35.240 They travel there every year 00:03:35.240 --> 00:03:39.130 in hopes that the water will alleviate illness 00:03:39.130 --> 00:03:40.890 and restore health. 00:03:51.880 --> 00:03:53.940 [ZITTEL] We do a lot of different things, 00:03:53.950 --> 00:03:58.640 but the sort of trademark things are these big events that we create. 00:03:58.640 --> 00:03:59.860 [MATT COOLIDGE] Well, hello everybody. 00:03:59.860 --> 00:04:01.700 My name is Matt Coolidge. 00:04:01.700 --> 00:04:04.810 I'll be talking about lakes of the Mojave! 00:04:04.810 --> 00:04:06.300 [ZITTEL] Like, we have an audience here 00:04:06.300 --> 00:04:08.290 that's not necessarily an art audience, 00:04:08.290 --> 00:04:09.650 but people who are really interested 00:04:09.650 --> 00:04:13.010 and willing to support art that inserts itself 00:04:13.010 --> 00:04:14.310 directly into the world. 00:04:14.310 --> 00:04:15.340 I don't know... 00:04:15.340 --> 00:04:17.280 I like working with Aurora so much, 00:04:17.280 --> 00:04:19.560 and we talk, like, at length 00:04:19.560 --> 00:04:21.260 about what it is and what it isn't, 00:04:21.260 --> 00:04:22.100 and what it should be, 00:04:22.100 --> 00:04:23.570 and what there's a necessity for, 00:04:23.570 --> 00:04:25.070 and how art functions. 00:04:29.220 --> 00:04:30.220 [SANT KHALSA] I thought, 00:04:30.220 --> 00:04:33.260 "It's absurd that people are going to water stores to buy water" 00:04:33.260 --> 00:04:36.240 "when their tap water is perfectly safe." 00:04:36.240 --> 00:04:37.860 [Sant Khalsa, Artist] 00:04:37.860 --> 00:04:41.400 But, realize, that they didn't think that their water was safe. 00:04:42.639 --> 00:04:48.580 The primary consumer of this water was immigrant populations 00:04:48.580 --> 00:04:52.470 who had come from countries where their tap water wasn't safe. 00:04:52.470 --> 00:04:56.120 I realized they had some really interesting names, 00:04:56.120 --> 00:04:58.980 and that's actually what drew me to them. 00:04:59.300 --> 00:05:03.380 The process of photographing the water stores 00:05:03.389 --> 00:05:08.250 was really more about the idea of taking this pilgrimage, 00:05:08.250 --> 00:05:11.570 looking for, in a sense, the sacred springs. 00:05:12.500 --> 00:05:15.580 [TANG] Sometimes we'll send people off to these remote sites 00:05:15.590 --> 00:05:17.380 to look for projects, 00:05:17.380 --> 00:05:21.120 and they won't find it, with our little primitive driving maps. 00:05:21.520 --> 00:05:22.920 But the thing is, 00:05:22.920 --> 00:05:27.860 they're never usually that upset about it, 00:05:27.860 --> 00:05:31.230 because they found something else equally amazing 00:05:31.230 --> 00:05:34.400 that they might not otherwise have found. 00:05:35.700 --> 00:05:38.680 [ZITTEL] We bought a hundred acres of land to use 00:05:38.680 --> 00:05:40.590 that we let artists do projects on. 00:05:40.590 --> 00:05:42.720 And we wanted to find parcels where 00:05:42.720 --> 00:05:46.800 you wouldn't ever necessarily see two artworks at the same time. 00:05:48.400 --> 00:05:52.919 We've always tried to help artists find situations 00:05:52.919 --> 00:05:53.870 to make their work, 00:05:53.870 --> 00:05:59.070 where it can retain that, kind of, quality of unknowableness. 00:06:00.660 --> 00:06:01.970 If you're, sort of, out somewhere, 00:06:01.970 --> 00:06:06.139 and you see some weird, amazing, inexplicable object, 00:06:06.139 --> 00:06:09.710 you can wonder about it for days. 00:06:09.710 --> 00:06:14.340 It's been this constant discussion about how to remain a support entity 00:06:14.340 --> 00:06:19.169 without becoming another institution that's commissioning people to do works. 00:06:19.169 --> 00:06:22.639 And that's a very very fine line to walk. 00:06:24.280 --> 00:06:26.460 [FULTON] So, I believe, in about fifteen minutes, 00:06:26.460 --> 00:06:30.020 there is a lecture scheduled in the main hall down there. 00:06:30.020 --> 00:06:33.070 You might want to go up and use the restroom, if needed, 00:06:33.070 --> 00:06:35.510 and, thank you very much for attending! 00:06:35.510 --> 00:06:38.790 [APPLAUSE]