1 00:00:00,359 --> 00:00:03,419 all right welcome back to belay Master 2 00:00:03,419 --> 00:00:05,700 Class previously in this series I 3 00:00:05,700 --> 00:00:08,040 covered every single piece of gear that 4 00:00:08,040 --> 00:00:10,260 you will encounter in sport climbing 5 00:00:10,260 --> 00:00:13,799 some Ninja ways to tie knots and top 6 00:00:13,799 --> 00:00:16,980 rope belaying now we're ready for lead 7 00:00:16,980 --> 00:00:19,520 belaying 8 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:22,140 but before I start I have to say that 9 00:00:22,140 --> 00:00:24,560 just because you watch a YouTube video 10 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:29,119 doesn't mean that now you know 11 00:00:30,539 --> 00:00:33,800 I know Kung Fu 12 00:00:34,020 --> 00:00:35,200 show me 13 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:38,399 [Scream] 14 00:00:38,790 --> 00:00:46,140 [Music] 15 00:00:46,140 --> 00:00:48,600 yeah so use this video only as 16 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:50,820 supplemental information to whatever 17 00:00:50,820 --> 00:00:52,500 practical training you're doing 18 00:00:52,500 --> 00:00:55,739 hopefully with somebody experienced and 19 00:00:55,739 --> 00:00:58,260 this video is not about how to use your 20 00:00:58,260 --> 00:01:00,719 playing device I covered that very 21 00:01:00,719 --> 00:01:02,940 deeply in this video so if you're 22 00:01:02,940 --> 00:01:04,979 somebody new to climbing I highly 23 00:01:04,979 --> 00:01:07,080 recommend to watch these two videos 24 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:10,260 first also I have to mention that there 25 00:01:10,260 --> 00:01:12,479 is still debates in the climbing 26 00:01:12,479 --> 00:01:15,240 community of what is the correct way of 27 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:17,280 using the belaying device and different 28 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:19,439 countries have different recommendations 29 00:01:19,439 --> 00:01:22,259 one subject for disagreement is 30 00:01:22,259 --> 00:01:24,720 so-called tunneling method where you're 31 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:27,840 sliding your Brig hand like this when 32 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:30,980 you're taking Slack 33 00:01:30,980 --> 00:01:39,450 [Music] 34 00:01:39,619 --> 00:01:42,299 and I covered this topic in this video 35 00:01:42,299 --> 00:01:45,659 but my personal take is that this 36 00:01:45,659 --> 00:01:48,780 sliding is not an issue if you're using 37 00:01:48,780 --> 00:01:51,540 assisted delay devices and then there is 38 00:01:51,540 --> 00:01:54,360 another disagreement on the proper use 39 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:57,420 of grigri official petzl recommendation 40 00:01:57,420 --> 00:01:59,700 is when you're giving slack you can do 41 00:01:59,700 --> 00:02:02,220 this but then if you need to give more 42 00:02:02,220 --> 00:02:05,240 slack fast you can press on grigri's cam 43 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:07,799 while you have the rope with three 44 00:02:07,799 --> 00:02:10,319 fingers on the rope and continue giving 45 00:02:10,319 --> 00:02:13,319 slack like this however after that you 46 00:02:13,319 --> 00:02:15,420 should bring your brake hand away from 47 00:02:15,420 --> 00:02:17,640 the grigri however if You observe 48 00:02:17,640 --> 00:02:19,920 experienced climbers you will notice 49 00:02:19,920 --> 00:02:22,379 that most of them will not bring the 50 00:02:22,379 --> 00:02:24,959 brake hand down and will simply keep the 51 00:02:24,959 --> 00:02:27,480 hand on the grigri all the time and 52 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:30,060 there is benefits to that first you can 53 00:02:30,060 --> 00:02:32,220 give more slack than this way while your 54 00:02:32,220 --> 00:02:34,500 left hand is pulling up the right hand 55 00:02:34,500 --> 00:02:37,319 can pull down and now you just added 56 00:02:37,319 --> 00:02:40,020 extra slack second by having your break 57 00:02:40,020 --> 00:02:43,440 hand here you can take the most amount 58 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:45,560 of slack because if your hand is 59 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:48,959 somewhere Midway now you are very 60 00:02:48,959 --> 00:02:51,060 limited of how much slack you can take 61 00:02:51,060 --> 00:02:53,459 you will need to bring the hand back if 62 00:02:53,459 --> 00:02:55,860 you want to take a lot of slack so this 63 00:02:55,860 --> 00:02:57,780 position naturally gives you the most 64 00:02:57,780 --> 00:03:00,720 control in any situation and allows you 65 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:03,840 to micromanage the slack the drawback of 66 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:07,260 this is that in some rare cases if you 67 00:03:07,260 --> 00:03:09,840 don't have a good grip on the hand the 68 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:12,659 grigri might slip so you have to be 69 00:03:12,659 --> 00:03:15,420 aware of this especially if you're using 70 00:03:15,420 --> 00:03:17,940 super skinny ropes but despite of that 71 00:03:17,940 --> 00:03:20,700 risk you will see me keeping my hand on 72 00:03:20,700 --> 00:03:22,920 the grigri most of the time because this 73 00:03:22,920 --> 00:03:25,140 is my preference and you choose the 74 00:03:25,140 --> 00:03:27,959 method which works for you and I go to 75 00:03:27,959 --> 00:03:28,980 belay 76 00:03:28,980 --> 00:03:31,560 all right so we want to lead this route 77 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:34,680 and me as a player I will be spending a 78 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:37,260 lot of time looking up and since I'm 79 00:03:37,260 --> 00:03:39,480 looking up I don't have enough time to 80 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:41,760 look down what's under my feet so it's a 81 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:44,340 good idea to prepare the space so I will 82 00:03:44,340 --> 00:03:46,560 not trip over something so if there are 83 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:49,140 some things you might consider moving 84 00:03:49,140 --> 00:03:50,879 them I don't know what this thing is 85 00:03:50,879 --> 00:03:53,819 doing here next I look into the route and 86 00:03:53,819 --> 00:03:56,340 see where it goes in this case I see a 87 00:03:56,340 --> 00:03:58,620 lot of chalk on the left side so that's 88 00:03:58,620 --> 00:04:00,780 where the climber is going to climb and 89 00:04:00,780 --> 00:04:03,480 so I want to avoid standing in his fall 90 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:06,000 zone so I will be standing a little bit 91 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:08,640 more to the right so I place my rope bag 92 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:11,400 even more to the right but in front of 93 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:13,860 me in this case if there is any Tangles 94 00:04:13,860 --> 00:04:15,840 with the Rope I can see them and deal 95 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:18,120 with them easily if I would place my 96 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:20,160 rope back behind me it's more 97 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:22,860 complicated to see issues with the Rope 98 00:04:22,860 --> 00:04:25,680 okay then you get a climber and before I 99 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:27,600 take him on belay I like to look into 100 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:30,120 the first bolt and estimate how much 101 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:32,699 rope he will need to clip it so in this 102 00:04:32,699 --> 00:04:36,000 case it's more or less like that 103 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:38,820 I always go a little bit on the bigger 104 00:04:38,820 --> 00:04:41,820 side because safer as always 105 00:04:41,820 --> 00:04:45,000 safer and before he goes on the route we 106 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:47,340 obviously need to do a buddy check but 107 00:04:47,340 --> 00:04:49,440 as I already mentioned in the top rope 108 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:51,360 video I don't even like to call it a 109 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:53,040 buddy check because if I would just 110 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:55,199 Chuck my body and my buddy would just 111 00:04:55,199 --> 00:04:57,780 check me there is chances of failure in 112 00:04:57,780 --> 00:04:59,580 particular we are not even sure if we 113 00:04:59,580 --> 00:05:01,740 are on correct ends of the Rope so 114 00:05:01,740 --> 00:05:03,660 instead of that this is what you do 115 00:05:03,660 --> 00:05:05,580 first I check my harness to make sure 116 00:05:05,580 --> 00:05:07,620 that my buckles are secure then the 117 00:05:07,620 --> 00:05:10,320 Carabiner it needs to be locked then the 118 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:12,840 laying device needs to be inserted in a 119 00:05:12,840 --> 00:05:15,060 correct orientation and then I start 120 00:05:15,060 --> 00:05:17,220 tracing my rope you might see people 121 00:05:17,220 --> 00:05:19,740 even collecting the Rope like that and 122 00:05:19,740 --> 00:05:22,020 this is to ensure that we are on the 123 00:05:22,020 --> 00:05:24,180 correct end of the Rope not on something 124 00:05:24,180 --> 00:05:27,780 wrong and finally I check his knot and 125 00:05:27,780 --> 00:05:30,060 his harness now obviously while the 126 00:05:30,060 --> 00:05:32,100 belayer is checking the climber the 127 00:05:32,100 --> 00:05:34,080 climber should be checking the belayer 128 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:36,300 and there is one slightly annoying thing 129 00:05:36,300 --> 00:05:39,300 at least for me what some climbers do is 130 00:05:39,300 --> 00:05:41,280 when the climber takes on the rope and 131 00:05:41,280 --> 00:05:44,280 pulls on it to test if the belay device 132 00:05:44,280 --> 00:05:46,860 is working but who likes to be pulled 133 00:05:46,860 --> 00:05:49,680 around so instead of that the belayer 134 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:52,259 should do this pull test and the climber 135 00:05:52,259 --> 00:05:54,900 should observe also if you are a long 136 00:05:54,900 --> 00:05:57,300 hair owner it's a good idea to take care 137 00:05:57,300 --> 00:05:59,460 of that because if it gets into belay 138 00:05:59,460 --> 00:06:01,560 device it's really difficult to 139 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:03,840 self-rescue that's another reason for 140 00:06:03,840 --> 00:06:06,240 using a helmet as a belayer because it can 141 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:08,580 keep your hair on the back side and the 142 00:06:08,580 --> 00:06:11,639 same goes for the climber yo bro and 143 00:06:11,639 --> 00:06:14,100 finally I highly recommend to wear shoes 144 00:06:14,100 --> 00:06:16,860 as a belayer last year in Céüse we saw a 145 00:06:16,860 --> 00:06:19,440 girl with sandals that don't protect the 146 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:21,840 front of the toes kicking something 147 00:06:21,840 --> 00:06:24,419 really hard during the catch of the fall 148 00:06:24,419 --> 00:06:27,419 and bleeding all over the place and then 149 00:06:27,419 --> 00:06:29,940 the hike down is like one hour of hike 150 00:06:29,940 --> 00:06:32,340 and that's a pretty sad way to end your 151 00:06:32,340 --> 00:06:34,680 climbing trip and another good way to 152 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:37,199 ruin your climbing trip is by not having 153 00:06:37,199 --> 00:06:40,620 the knot at the end of the Rope 154 00:06:40,620 --> 00:06:43,680 that was fast yeah statistically this is 155 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:46,080 what causes the most accidents in 156 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:48,300 climbing so double check if you have a 157 00:06:48,300 --> 00:06:51,240 knot before you start climbing and now 158 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:54,139 we are officially ready to climb 159 00:06:54,139 --> 00:06:57,960 yay okay climbing climb on always fist 160 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:00,380 bump as well 161 00:07:00,380 --> 00:07:02,940 now if the beginning of the route is 162 00:07:02,940 --> 00:07:05,100 challenging consider spotting your 163 00:07:05,100 --> 00:07:07,259 climber and as the climber is 164 00:07:07,259 --> 00:07:09,360 approaching the first clip you can 165 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:12,479 adjust the Rope estimation so that as 166 00:07:12,479 --> 00:07:15,000 soon as he Clips he's already safe to 167 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:18,120 climb and not waiting for you to just a 168 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:20,520 moment just a moment 169 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:23,479 just a moment 170 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:26,880 here is another example as the climber 171 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:28,979 is reaching the clip I notice that there 172 00:07:28,979 --> 00:07:31,979 will be too much slack so I take some of 173 00:07:31,979 --> 00:07:35,039 it out and as soon as he Clips he's 174 00:07:35,039 --> 00:07:37,620 instantly safe to climb now while the 175 00:07:37,620 --> 00:07:40,080 climber is low on the route the player 176 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:42,900 must avoid standing directly under the 177 00:07:42,900 --> 00:07:45,660 climber but also if possible do not 178 00:07:45,660 --> 00:07:48,300 stand directly behind that climber 179 00:07:48,300 --> 00:07:50,699 because that often positions the Rope 180 00:07:50,699 --> 00:07:53,539 between the legs of the climber and 181 00:07:53,539 --> 00:07:57,539 risks damaging private parts the best 182 00:07:57,539 --> 00:08:00,120 position usually is slightly on the side 183 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:02,840 of the climber 184 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:05,639 and since a lot of you are terrified of 185 00:08:05,639 --> 00:08:07,620 faults that are low to the ground I'm 186 00:08:07,620 --> 00:08:10,080 gonna make a dedicated video on how to 187 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:12,120 belay these situations 188 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:15,180 so yeah subscribe 189 00:08:15,180 --> 00:08:17,759 and here is another bad example if the 190 00:08:17,759 --> 00:08:19,860 climber would fall at this moment his 191 00:08:19,860 --> 00:08:21,960 butt cheeks would probably hug the Rope 192 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:24,660 So to avoid that it would be better if 193 00:08:24,660 --> 00:08:26,460 the belayer would be standing 194 00:08:26,460 --> 00:08:27,960 somewhere in this area 195 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:29,879 and another thing you should do while 196 00:08:29,879 --> 00:08:32,099 the climber is low on the route is to 197 00:08:32,099 --> 00:08:34,620 help to manage the Rope here I kept the 198 00:08:34,620 --> 00:08:36,779 Rope close to the wall so it's easier 199 00:08:36,779 --> 00:08:40,620 for the climber to step around it 200 00:08:40,620 --> 00:08:43,260 and here is me climbing where I will 201 00:08:43,260 --> 00:08:45,420 need to step around this rope so my 202 00:08:45,420 --> 00:08:48,120 belayer actively moves the Rope out of my 203 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:50,459 way it makes so much easier to get 204 00:08:50,459 --> 00:08:54,680 around the rope and into the flow 205 00:08:57,380 --> 00:09:00,660 all right next let's talk about slack 206 00:09:00,660 --> 00:09:02,880 management and so that we are on the 207 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:06,000 same page of vocabulary slack is extra 208 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:09,839 rope between me and my climber so in 209 00:09:09,839 --> 00:09:12,060 this case there is no tension on the 210 00:09:12,060 --> 00:09:14,399 Rope but there is no slack 211 00:09:14,399 --> 00:09:19,019 and here I have one hand of slack this 212 00:09:19,019 --> 00:09:22,019 is how one hand of slack looks slack can 213 00:09:22,019 --> 00:09:24,420 also happen at the climber's end of the 214 00:09:24,420 --> 00:09:26,760 Rope especially after he just clipped 215 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:29,220 and now he's moving up or between the 216 00:09:29,220 --> 00:09:31,860 quick draws this happens more often in 217 00:09:31,860 --> 00:09:35,000 extremely overhanging roots 218 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:37,680 so do you want to tell what happened 219 00:09:37,680 --> 00:09:40,040 here 220 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:43,200 where should we start this climate here 221 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:45,000 is uh digging a hole 222 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:47,820 to uh with the shovel there's a move 223 00:09:47,820 --> 00:09:49,380 where they cut loose 224 00:09:49,380 --> 00:09:52,380 and to not short rope your climber 225 00:09:52,380 --> 00:09:55,440 uh there is a there is a risk that they 226 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:57,529 that they will hit the ground 227 00:09:57,624 --> 00:09:59,804 So they digged in a hole 228 00:10:00,660 --> 00:10:04,380 okay how much slack should you have when 229 00:10:04,380 --> 00:10:06,899 you're belaying the answer is enough to 230 00:10:06,899 --> 00:10:09,060 not limit any of the climbers movements 231 00:10:09,060 --> 00:10:12,480 or clipping but anything more than that 232 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:15,120 is unnecessary now you might see other 233 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:17,220 coaches recommending that the Rope which 234 00:10:17,220 --> 00:10:20,339 leaves the grigri shouldn't dip below 235 00:10:20,339 --> 00:10:22,980 the belaying device meaning that it 236 00:10:22,980 --> 00:10:25,200 shouldn't do this instead it should 237 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:28,440 leave and go up however take this advice 238 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:31,140 with caution because how this Loop looks 239 00:10:31,140 --> 00:10:33,660 depends on how you hold your belaying 240 00:10:33,660 --> 00:10:35,760 device it looks like this when I hold it 241 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:38,220 here but if it's it's like that it looks 242 00:10:38,220 --> 00:10:40,680 completely different and also it depends 243 00:10:40,680 --> 00:10:42,600 on how close you are standing to the 244 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:44,519 wall because if I stand close to the 245 00:10:44,519 --> 00:10:47,220 wall and I try to avoid this Loop and 246 00:10:47,220 --> 00:10:48,720 then I will end up with something like 247 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:51,600 that which is very little slack and it's 248 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:53,700 very highly likely that you will short 249 00:10:53,700 --> 00:10:55,860 rope your climber now before I give you 250 00:10:55,860 --> 00:10:58,680 my recommendations I have to say that 251 00:10:58,680 --> 00:11:01,320 how you manage your slack while the climber 252 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:03,420 is climbing up can be completely 253 00:11:03,420 --> 00:11:05,399 different from the situation where the 254 00:11:05,399 --> 00:11:07,500 climber is falling or about to fall 255 00:11:07,500 --> 00:11:09,600 because if the climber is falling you 256 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:12,180 have many options you can take the slack 257 00:11:12,180 --> 00:11:14,279 if you think but that's necessary you 258 00:11:14,279 --> 00:11:16,920 can do nothing or you can proceed with a 259 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:19,620 soft catch and I will talk about these 260 00:11:19,620 --> 00:11:22,019 cases in the next video and in this one 261 00:11:22,019 --> 00:11:24,360 I will focus on what you do while the 262 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:26,820 climber is simply climbing up so with 263 00:11:26,820 --> 00:11:29,100 disclaimers out of the way you can 264 00:11:29,100 --> 00:11:31,380 manage the slack by obviously feeding the 265 00:11:31,380 --> 00:11:33,839 Rope through the billing device and by 266 00:11:33,839 --> 00:11:36,420 stepping forward so if I step forward I 267 00:11:36,420 --> 00:11:39,660 introduce slack if I step backwards I 268 00:11:39,660 --> 00:11:42,959 reduce the amount of Slack also you can 269 00:11:42,959 --> 00:11:45,120 combine these two so you can feed the 270 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:46,680 slack through belaying device while 271 00:11:46,680 --> 00:11:49,680 stepping forward to give more slack and 272 00:11:49,680 --> 00:11:53,459 then you can take and step backwards to 273 00:11:53,459 --> 00:11:55,800 take the slack quicker in general lead 274 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:58,200 belaying can be broken down into three 275 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:00,720 phases first is when the climber is 276 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:02,760 below the quick draw in this case you 277 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:04,680 should belay the same as if the 278 00:12:04,680 --> 00:12:06,959 climber would be on the top rope there 279 00:12:06,959 --> 00:12:09,600 is no need for any slack 280 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:11,820 now when the climber is transitioning 281 00:12:11,820 --> 00:12:14,279 from under the bolt to above the bolt 282 00:12:14,279 --> 00:12:17,700 you will need to start giving Slack and 283 00:12:17,700 --> 00:12:21,380 maintain a good amount of it 284 00:12:21,839 --> 00:12:24,600 here my climber moved closer to the bolt 285 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:27,360 so I take out a little bit of the slack 286 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:30,360 and as my climber starts climbing up I 287 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:32,700 continue giving slack so it's a very 288 00:12:32,700 --> 00:12:34,920 Dynamic process 289 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:37,079 so the way I like to think about the 290 00:12:37,079 --> 00:12:39,779 good amount of slack is in terms of arms 291 00:12:39,779 --> 00:12:42,540 of slack that I paid out so as my 292 00:12:42,540 --> 00:12:44,399 climber is transitioning from under the 293 00:12:44,399 --> 00:12:47,820 bolt to above the bolt I will want to 294 00:12:47,820 --> 00:12:51,300 give about half of arm of slack and this 295 00:12:51,300 --> 00:12:54,240 is gonna create this nice belly and this 296 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:56,760 is probably a good amount of slack for 297 00:12:56,760 --> 00:12:59,579 majority of situations in climbing if I 298 00:12:59,579 --> 00:13:02,519 would take that out this is more or less 299 00:13:02,519 --> 00:13:04,920 the amount of slack I had the good 300 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:07,200 amount of slack also depends on the 301 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:09,540 speed the climber is climbing if it's 302 00:13:09,540 --> 00:13:11,459 slow you can be more conservative 303 00:13:11,459 --> 00:13:13,740 however if the climber is climbing 304 00:13:13,740 --> 00:13:16,260 really fast and if it's very important 305 00:13:16,260 --> 00:13:18,899 send attempt then you might want to have 306 00:13:18,899 --> 00:13:23,240 more slack according to the situation 307 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:29,580 [Music] 308 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:31,459 And in case the climber 309 00:13:31,459 --> 00:13:34,380 is climbing really fast and clipping 310 00:13:34,380 --> 00:13:37,139 really Dynamic you might consider to 311 00:13:37,139 --> 00:13:39,959 give about full arm of slack which would 312 00:13:39,959 --> 00:13:41,880 look something like that 313 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:44,760 and a good part about having not more 314 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:47,040 than one arm of slack is that you can 315 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:50,760 always take it in one motion and this is 316 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:52,920 the amount of slack ahead 317 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:55,680 it's a little bit less than a meter of 318 00:13:55,680 --> 00:13:56,700 Slack 319 00:13:56,700 --> 00:14:00,060 so this amount of slack is probably the 320 00:14:00,060 --> 00:14:03,000 absolute maximum you will ever need on 321 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:06,000 any climbing situation and if you would 322 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:08,100 have more than that you might risk 323 00:14:08,100 --> 00:14:11,279 unnecessarily big fall and then in case 324 00:14:11,279 --> 00:14:13,440 you need to take it's gonna take you 325 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:16,820 multiple actions to complete the taking 326 00:14:16,820 --> 00:14:20,100 which is also unnecessary on a contrast 327 00:14:20,100 --> 00:14:23,399 having too little slack is one of the 328 00:14:23,399 --> 00:14:25,920 most common beginner mistakes that often 329 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:30,060 end up as a short rope or the climber 330 00:14:30,060 --> 00:14:31,740 oh 331 00:14:31,740 --> 00:14:33,839 of course if the climber is low to the 332 00:14:33,839 --> 00:14:36,420 ground and about to fall having no slack 333 00:14:36,420 --> 00:14:39,560 might be the best option 334 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:41,279 [Scream] 335 00:14:41,279 --> 00:14:44,459 otherwise here is an example why in 336 00:14:44,459 --> 00:14:46,980 majority of situations I recommend about 337 00:14:46,980 --> 00:14:50,339 half of arm of slack my climber decided 338 00:14:50,339 --> 00:14:52,440 to do some Ninja clipping from the 339 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:55,500 position where no one else Clips so I 340 00:14:55,500 --> 00:14:58,560 was not expecting that luckily I had 341 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:01,380 about half of our most slack and that 342 00:15:01,380 --> 00:15:05,040 was just enough to not short rope him 343 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:07,860 now normally you can anticipate when the 344 00:15:07,860 --> 00:15:10,079 climber is about to clip and you will 345 00:15:10,079 --> 00:15:11,684 have more time to give 346 00:15:11,684 --> 00:15:13,290 enough slack for that 347 00:15:14,060 --> 00:15:17,459 however beginner belayers still get in 348 00:15:17,459 --> 00:15:19,680 trouble when the climber needs a lot of 349 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:22,199 rope for clipping fast and the best 350 00:15:22,199 --> 00:15:24,660 strategy to deal with that is to drop 351 00:15:24,660 --> 00:15:27,480 the full arm of slack and prepare to 352 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:30,600 give more and then give more as needed 353 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:33,120 and once the climber Clips you can take 354 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:36,120 out the extra with this strategy you are 355 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:38,820 giving at least two and a half arms of 356 00:15:38,820 --> 00:15:42,240 slack to the climber and in 99% of the 357 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:44,240 cases this should be enough 358 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:46,560 alternatively if the clipping is really 359 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:49,680 fast you can also add a step forward 360 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:52,920 which also adds extra slack now 361 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:55,620 obviously nobody likes to be short-roped 362 00:15:55,620 --> 00:15:58,800 during the clipping but same goes for 363 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:01,500 micro short roping when the Rope is 364 00:16:01,500 --> 00:16:03,959 blocked just for the moment these 365 00:16:03,959 --> 00:16:06,420 moments cost energy for the climber and 366 00:16:06,420 --> 00:16:09,360 must be avoided if you're belaying and 367 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:12,480 short rope happens the best strategy is 368 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:15,000 to immediately step forward words while 369 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:17,279 at the same time unlocking the belaying 370 00:16:17,279 --> 00:16:19,800 device the stepping forward helps to 371 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:21,420 unlock the device 372 00:16:21,420 --> 00:16:24,240 so to recap while the climber is under 373 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:26,420 the bolt you will be mainly taking 374 00:16:26,450 --> 00:16:29,820 the slack out and once the climber transitions 375 00:16:29,820 --> 00:16:32,160 above the bolt then you will need to 376 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:34,800 give slack and maintain a good amount 377 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:37,199 usually between half to full arm of 378 00:16:37,199 --> 00:16:40,680 slack works the best and anything more 379 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:44,040 than that is very very rarely beneficial 380 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:47,820 and simply asking for trouble 381 00:16:47,820 --> 00:16:50,600 clipping 382 00:16:51,620 --> 00:16:54,540 and independently of how great of the 383 00:16:54,540 --> 00:16:57,060 belayer you are at some point you will 384 00:16:57,060 --> 00:17:00,540 probably get into situation like this so 385 00:17:00,540 --> 00:17:02,579 first of all you can greatly reduce the 386 00:17:02,579 --> 00:17:04,679 chance of that happening if you manage 387 00:17:04,679 --> 00:17:07,799 your rope well so when I carry my rope I 388 00:17:07,799 --> 00:17:10,319 always always make sure to tie both ends 389 00:17:10,319 --> 00:17:12,900 of my rope to the Rope bag this prevents 390 00:17:12,900 --> 00:17:15,419 the chance of the not forming in a way 391 00:17:15,419 --> 00:17:17,760 that I would not be able to untie it the 392 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:20,100 only knot that you can get is maybe 393 00:17:20,100 --> 00:17:22,799 something like that but if that happens 394 00:17:22,799 --> 00:17:24,780 you can always untie it although you 395 00:17:24,780 --> 00:17:26,699 cannot get a knot in the Rope you can 396 00:17:26,699 --> 00:17:29,340 still have a tangle and to minimize the 397 00:17:29,340 --> 00:17:31,559 tangles it's good idea to stack your 398 00:17:31,559 --> 00:17:35,179 rope nicely before you climb 399 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:44,400 and the good part that after the climb 400 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:46,440 you don't have to stack all the Rope you 401 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:48,720 just need to restack the part which you 402 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:50,520 used for the climb so all of that is 403 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:52,799 good and now I'm just gonna restack what 404 00:17:52,799 --> 00:17:54,900 I already used 405 00:17:54,900 --> 00:17:57,240 and one more thing that you should not 406 00:17:57,240 --> 00:18:00,600 do is take rope like this 407 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:03,720 and just throw it in you will definitely 408 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:07,080 cause Tangles instead of that you want 409 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:09,900 to put the Rope on the side and re-stack 410 00:18:09,900 --> 00:18:13,200 this little bit nicely 411 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:17,039 that will save you from lots of troubles 412 00:18:17,039 --> 00:18:19,200 and if you're done with the climb 413 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:22,320 tie your end of the Rope 414 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:25,340 to the row rope bag 415 00:18:26,460 --> 00:18:28,559 now if your rope is still causing you 416 00:18:28,559 --> 00:18:31,380 problems you can find a moment when the 417 00:18:31,380 --> 00:18:34,020 climber is safe and prepare some of the 418 00:18:34,020 --> 00:18:36,240 Rope of course make sure to hold the 419 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:39,539 brake side of the Rope while doing so 420 00:18:39,539 --> 00:18:41,220 okay pulling 421 00:18:41,220 --> 00:18:43,620 okay the next problem with beginner 422 00:18:43,620 --> 00:18:45,840 belayers is that they don't know how to 423 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:49,640 efficiently take the Rope 424 00:18:53,340 --> 00:18:56,000 hard 425 00:18:57,120 --> 00:19:00,360 going up and down up and down 426 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:03,539 okay if you want to be nice to your 427 00:19:03,539 --> 00:19:06,780 climber and help him to go up easier you 428 00:19:06,780 --> 00:19:09,059 want to come under the first Quick Draw 429 00:19:09,059 --> 00:19:11,580 but keep sitting in the harness so that 430 00:19:11,580 --> 00:19:14,340 all my weight is holding him or pulling 431 00:19:14,340 --> 00:19:18,020 him up now a little trick how to take 432 00:19:18,020 --> 00:19:21,840 efficiently so that I help my climber 433 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:24,600 the most so I put a little piece of tape 434 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:27,840 here and if I take efficiently this 435 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:30,480 piece of tape should not move up because 436 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:32,580 if it moves up that means that my 437 00:19:32,580 --> 00:19:35,100 climber went down and he will need to 438 00:19:35,100 --> 00:19:38,460 put extra effort in moving up again so 439 00:19:38,460 --> 00:19:41,820 how can I take that this piece of tape 440 00:19:41,820 --> 00:19:44,520 doesn't go up well I want to grab my 441 00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:47,760 rope really hard and do one arm pull up 442 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:51,419 to lock this marker while taking the 443 00:19:51,419 --> 00:19:53,520 slack through my billing device 444 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:57,179 however I cannot do one arm pull up 445 00:19:57,179 --> 00:20:00,419 however I have legs that can help me I 446 00:20:00,419 --> 00:20:03,240 can grab as hard as I can pull right 447 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:05,940 hand up while pulling left hand down and 448 00:20:05,940 --> 00:20:08,460 use my legs to help me so this is how it 449 00:20:08,460 --> 00:20:10,700 looks 450 00:20:12,179 --> 00:20:15,240 see the marker stayed or if you want a 451 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:18,059 greater effect you can even hop up like 452 00:20:18,059 --> 00:20:21,840 so I literally jumped with my legs while 453 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:24,480 taking the slack 454 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:27,179 and keep hanging while my climber is 455 00:20:27,179 --> 00:20:28,380 pulling 456 00:20:28,380 --> 00:20:31,320 so that helps him the most once I reach 457 00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:32,640 the ground again 458 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:34,140 I can 459 00:20:34,140 --> 00:20:37,500 take again and if there is an object in 460 00:20:37,500 --> 00:20:40,799 front of you that you can step on and do 461 00:20:40,799 --> 00:20:43,679 a little step or hop up it's even better 462 00:20:43,679 --> 00:20:46,260 so if I would jump from this I can take 463 00:20:46,260 --> 00:20:49,380 a lot of slack it's very easy for me 464 00:20:49,380 --> 00:20:54,140 and it's very good for my climber 465 00:20:56,100 --> 00:20:58,380 so this technique provides the most 466 00:20:58,380 --> 00:21:01,500 assistance to the climber however if the 467 00:21:01,500 --> 00:21:03,600 climber is significantly heavier than 468 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:07,080 the layer it might be hard to execute in 469 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:09,480 that case I would recommend to time the 470 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:11,640 moment when the climber is pulling on 471 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:13,740 the rope with the moment when you're 472 00:21:13,740 --> 00:21:16,440 trying to take out the slack or the 473 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:19,460 moment you're trying to jump up 474 00:21:19,460 --> 00:21:21,780 alternatively you can use the technique 475 00:21:21,780 --> 00:21:25,020 of walking backwards it's easier for the 476 00:21:25,020 --> 00:21:28,320 belayer but the further you go the less 477 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:31,200 you help your climber in fact you know 478 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:33,419 what let's test how much more efficient 479 00:21:33,419 --> 00:21:35,460 it is to take under the Quick Draw 480 00:21:35,460 --> 00:21:38,640 compared to going backwards so I rigged 481 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:41,220 this system where my rope goes to a 482 00:21:41,220 --> 00:21:43,320 dynamometer so we can measure the force 483 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:45,960 I'm going to see how heavy Ben is let's 484 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:48,360 see how heavy Ben is if I'm hanging 485 00:21:48,360 --> 00:21:50,520 directly under 486 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:52,700 Ben is heavy 487 00:21:52,700 --> 00:21:55,620 0.62 kilo newtons now let's see what 488 00:21:55,620 --> 00:21:58,020 happens if I start going backwards 489 00:21:58,020 --> 00:22:01,340 so if I'm here it's at 490 00:22:01,340 --> 00:22:04,740 0.39 let's see how much I can do it here 491 00:22:04,740 --> 00:22:10,039 oh wow it's 30. let's go far 492 00:22:10,679 --> 00:22:13,620 okay let's try here 493 00:22:13,620 --> 00:22:15,120 come on Ben you can do better than that 494 00:22:15,120 --> 00:22:16,860 how much, 21 495 00:22:16,860 --> 00:22:19,640 21 he says 496 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:22,559 but I'm like pulling really hard if I'm 497 00:22:22,559 --> 00:22:25,620 just like casual this is a casual like 498 00:22:25,620 --> 00:22:29,100 kind of pulling casually how much is it 499 00:22:29,100 --> 00:22:32,880 18 actually when you're taking if I jump 500 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:35,820 up then momentarily I deliver a huge 501 00:22:35,820 --> 00:22:38,539 Force down 502 00:22:39,179 --> 00:22:41,940 that peaked at one point 503 00:22:41,940 --> 00:22:46,020 two three kilonewtons if I would time my 504 00:22:46,020 --> 00:22:48,360 jump together with the climber he would 505 00:22:48,360 --> 00:22:51,539 get propelled up yeah let's see what's 506 00:22:51,539 --> 00:22:54,000 the pick if I'm just pull hard here okay 507 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:55,500 go 508 00:22:57,059 --> 00:23:00,299 0.70 let's see what's my 509 00:23:00,299 --> 00:23:04,100 Peak if I try to do it here 510 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:09,380 0.62 511 00:23:09,380 --> 00:23:12,720 0.62 so conclusion if you want to be 512 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:15,000 nice for your climber be more under the 513 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:16,200 quick draw when you're pulling your 514 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:18,740 climber up 515 00:23:18,799 --> 00:23:21,360 let's see it wasn't much the question 516 00:23:21,360 --> 00:23:24,960 was from the audience does it change if 517 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:29,360 I have my feet on the ground now it's 63-64 518 00:23:29,360 --> 00:23:33,059 now I have gently touching the 519 00:23:33,059 --> 00:23:36,960 ground it dropped to 60. now if I'm kind 520 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:40,140 of like standing it's 50 if I'm kind of 521 00:23:40,140 --> 00:23:41,580 like standing 522 00:23:41,580 --> 00:23:43,559 I'm kind of hanging kind of standing 523 00:23:43,559 --> 00:23:45,740 it's 45. 524 00:23:45,740 --> 00:23:49,320 so only like purely hanging it goes to 525 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:51,120 full force 526 00:23:51,120 --> 00:23:54,600 but this is still quite effective while 527 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:58,020 this becomes already way less effective 528 00:23:58,020 --> 00:24:00,840 you you get tired less while belaying 529 00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:04,260 and your climber gets stronger so this 530 00:24:04,260 --> 00:24:07,020 was an introduction to belaying which is 531 00:24:07,020 --> 00:24:09,179 still missing the most important part 532 00:24:09,179 --> 00:24:12,960 what to do when the climber is falling 533 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:15,419 man I cannot give you a soft catch this way 534 00:24:15,419 --> 00:24:18,600 and to answer that I measured hundreds 535 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:21,059 of Falls and made a mega study on soft 536 00:24:21,059 --> 00:24:23,880 catches and all of that is coming in the 537 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:26,460 next video and for now huge thank you 538 00:24:26,460 --> 00:24:29,280 for Mammoth and for my patrons for 539 00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:32,039 supporting all of this video serious and 540 00:24:32,039 --> 00:24:34,500 if you are benefiting from it a lot and 541 00:24:34,500 --> 00:24:36,600 you want some Karma points I've heard 542 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:38,580 some rumors that there are Karma points 543 00:24:38,580 --> 00:24:40,080 in that website 544 00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:42,840 hope you enjoyed this one enjoy climbing 545 00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:46,580 and see you in the next one